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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The rewrap ody there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday.
All the best, but's from the Mike Hosking Breakfast on
newstalksz'd be in a sillier package. I am ben Hart,
and today we'll talk about Chris Hopkins and his performance
around the whole juicy, not the Judiciary Committee, the Privileges Committee,
the Golden Dome. We've got progress on this out of
(00:47):
the States, thanks mister Trump. The list of MP gifts
is out again and Mike slams people who we are lanyards.
But before any of that, is supermarket competition ever really
going to be real?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nicola Willis has found time to remind us that after
tomorrow she'll be returning to her crusade against the supermarkets.
The government not a fan of the banks, all the supermarkets.
Of course, they keep saying they're going to do something
about them, and by doing that, we're going to get
a better deal, whatever that looks like. And in that
is the trouble labor, who were way worse at the
economy than Willis made the mistake of having market studies
(01:27):
that achieved nothing. I mean they were supposed to achieve
things that just didn't. Petrol, supermarkets, telcos, all the usual suspects,
jib board or building products. That was the exception. We
now import lots of similar products we couldn't before. Presumably
the price in the markets corrected itself. Adirn said we
were being fleeced. Remember that, fleeced by the petrol stations.
Are we unfleeced now? What's changed? Tell me there's a price.
(01:49):
For specific answers as to how the petrol market is
giving us the so called better deal, Willissippe is to
rely on the old more competition is good for prices line,
which of course broadly is true. She cites Costco. Costco
have butter at just under ten dollars a pop. Apparently
it's why people are stockpiling the stuff. But there is
a reason there isn't a Mosco and Wanganui or Timaru
(02:10):
or well anywhere apart from the one they're actually is.
And that's because we have five million people and the
costco model needs a large gathering of shoppers. Same with airlines.
We'd love Emirates and Qatar and Quantas as well as
Singapore and Air New Zealand to fly daily out of
Hamilton Dunedin. But they can't. Egging this on is a
chunk of the public who swear black and blue. This
is a scam, a con and outrage and we need
(02:30):
Sheriff Willis to save the day. Oh they've got examples.
You can buy tins of peas in Queensland for three
cents and I fill it in Lancashire for a pound twenty.
Here's where I'm at. If there's a scam to be
broken up, break it up. If there's a new option
to be opened, do it. But finance ministers need to
have credibility. Willis is under pressure on that tomorrow of course,
promising Upheavil and new Tomorrows on the broadest of economic
(02:53):
theory is the stuff of fly by nighters like a
Deern Willis I am hoping is better than that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, it's not just putting your money where your mouth,
as is it when you're in politics. It's putting everybody's
money where your mouth is, and that's why you've got
to be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Although Chris Hopkins doesn't seem to have been held accountable
for some of the stuff that his government got up to.
He's still there and still bleeding on about things.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So Chris Hipkins needs help as far as I can
work out for the life of me. As I said
to due the moment, Ago got no idea why he's
wasting his time defending the Marory Party. He sees their
punishment's too harsh. Problem one? Is he doing it because
it is seen as anti government? In other words, despite
him saying he wasn't going to bark at any passing car,
he barks at any parsing car. Problem two. This reinforces
the general view that the Labour Party are soft on
(03:40):
people who break rules. Consequences should always be watered down.
Problem three. He is the leader of a major party
and the major parties represent You would have hoped a
bipartisan view that behavior and rules and etiquette are to
be adhered to in a place of national leadership. Problem four.
The Marory Party are nothing but trouble and you want
as a centrist to stay well clear of them. They
don't like parliament, they don't even believe it should exist,
(04:02):
and if it does exist, they should have a separate
one for themselves. Hipkins is like some tragic legal aid
bootletlawyer who defends the hopeless for the sake of it.
There is no upside for him, and yet in budget
week he has brought into the narrative yet again that
some poor SAPs have been hard done by and it's
all not fair and he somehow has to be on
the side of the victim. Problem five. So whatever you
(04:24):
want about the Privileges Committee, but it is the Parliament's
long standing court and his party is part of it.
Seems odd and undermining that you're willing to partake in
the process, then bag it when it reaches a conclusion.
Problem six. A few of his own members, of course,
were part of the original crime that infamous day when
things went dramatically to the pack, So maybe he feels
like a hypocrite given Penny Henray fell on his sword
(04:44):
and the others were too belligerent to do so either way.
Problem seven. New Zealanders want like and demand standards, so
he's on the wrong side of this. And problem eight.
When we aren't wanting to improve behavior, we wouldn't mind
the big players and the political game concentrating on the
big issues like the mess economically, we're currently and as
engineered by the bloke who's busy barking at passing cars,
(05:06):
the Greens and the Murray Party a minor play. Not
serious people. Labor are supposed to be serious. So how
about giving it a crack.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, the trouble is you need you need a few
mates because otherwise, as I've talked about before, and you know,
some poles over written, you know, recent times have shown
that they run the risk of not being the opposition anymore.
That might be act. So yeah, they might not be
the friends you choose, the friends you're forced to have
(05:34):
because of the only ones around.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Wrap.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Turn our attention back to the United States now, although
we might not be able to see it underneath the
Dome of gold.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Exciting news out of Washington this morning. He's talked about
it for a while, the Golden Dome. So Israel's got
their dome, the Iron Dome. Trump's going to have a
golden dome. So we're in the Oval Office. Pete hig
Seth is there. They're probably hooked it into signal just
so everyone else can listen in. How much does Golden
Dome cost? One hundred and seventy five billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of
intercepting missiles even if they are launched from other sides
of the world, and even if they're launched from space,
and we will have the best system ever built. As
you know, we helped Israel with theirs and it was
very successful. And now we have technology that's even far
(06:28):
advanced from that. But including hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, and
advanced cruise missiles, all of them will be knocked out
of the air.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Only problem is the immediate question if I was in
the defense force that I would raise is that the
reason Israel has an iron Dome is because they spend
quite a lot of time getting bombed, and last time
I looked to America doesn't really spend a lot of
time getting bombed. Unless Trump knows something that I don't,
so I'd be going bang for buck. No pun intended,
(07:00):
mister President. I'm just wondering if we've got bit of money,
you know, things to spend our money on. Canada's apparently
going to be in bold the new text Build a big,
beautiful Bill's going to write twenty five billion of that
one hundred and seventy five billion dollars and it's going
to be operational in three years. I'll believe that when
I see it, they'll probably unless they get it from Costco,
and I obviously don't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, it's basically the same as Israel's other than
the fact that Israel is only point two two percent
the size of the United States exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, it's scale at scale, isn't it. You get bulk
deals of things precise, you're just buying more of the
bits that you need. I'm assuming is how that works.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's hard to know how we'll know if it's operational,
given that it's still not really clear where the demand
from it came from. Not that many missiles have ever
been shot into America, so that so Trump will probably
need another term. I guess. So about the end of
(07:58):
that term, you can say, look how well the Golden
Dome worked. Not one missile got through, the rewrapped. It's
that time of year, isn't it. You know that time
of Yeah, the pecuniary list, time of year which MP
got What.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Don't you love a pecuniary list? I've got this year's
parliamentary one. Ginny Anderson got nothing, nothing, which is not
as sad as Chris Hipkins, who got nothing. That's the
leader of the opposition for you, Chris Bishop, Chris loves
a gift. I'll work you through some of that later on.
(08:37):
The Prime Minister got some stuff, but then you would
expect the Prime minister to get some stuff. You got
some wine from Gibson Valley, got a couple of watches,
one from NATO, one from the Thailand. Prime minister got
a lot of tickets to a lot of sports. A
lot of sport tickets going on. I've got no particular
from Mark Mitchell, no gifts. I would have thought Mark
was a bit more popular than that. David Seymour got
some hot laps. That's the best gift of all. No
(08:58):
one else I can see got hot laps. A couple
of people got hunting trips, which is a weird thing
in an angsty time. Would you go what'd you do
over the weekend? Oh, I went hunting?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Does make you wonder how they voted it on various.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Different That's exactly my point, Glenn. This is why we
have a pecuniary list. You have a look at this,
but no one appears to be more in receipt of
the gifts than Rachel Boyak who exactly? And you go, who,
how come someone you've never heard of got so much stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That reeks as somebody who really only got into public
life for the gifts. If the first thing you hear
about them is all the gifts, I apologize if we,
I mean we probably on the show and I've just forgotten.
But anyway, probably too many guests given that people like
Jenny and Match. Don't it any at all a rerap?
(09:57):
Time for a better lanyard talk now?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean, when isn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Let's be honest, Mike Cask Winston, he's going to apologize
to the heckler at Wellington Rail yesterday who may now
lose his job. Grant, get real, He's not apologizing to him.
He's the one who started it. It is an interesting debate,
as I wouldn't have thought he's going to lose his job,
but it is an interesting debate as to when you're
an individual and when you're a member of the company. Now,
the problem was he was wearing his tonguinent, Taylor's the
(10:23):
company is wearing his tonguent and Taylor lanyard. Can I
just say something just for the record. This is just me.
Don't wear lanyards. They are the rudest thing going. Do
not put pens in your pocket or wear lanyards. Wake
up people. And as for you, people who have got
your cards, your swipe cards on a stretchy bit of
elastic to your belt, come on, get it together. You
(10:43):
probably wear That's what I do exactly say no more.
You're a docker docker wearing a belt.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's not where are you? What are you supposed to
do with that? What is he putting it in his pocket?
And where does that leave people who don't have pockets?
And by that I mean women, because of course women
aren't allowed pockets, as we all know, very unusual to
find a dress risk Earth or even a jumpsuit with
(11:12):
decent pockets. Let's sort the equal pay out and let's
and then also let's give them some pockets. That's what
I say. But in the meantime, I mean you're left
with the landyard, don't you. I am a glen Hart.
That was the rewrap. I hope you can get back
in with your security card tomorrow for another edition.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'll see the end.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The rewrap ody there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday.
All the best, but's from the Mike Hosking Breakfast on
newstalksz'd be in a sillier package. I am ben Hart,
and today we'll talk about Chris Hopkins and his performance
around the whole juicy, not the Judiciary Committee, the Privileges Committee,
the Golden Dome. We've got progress on this out of
(00:47):
the States, thanks mister Trump. The list of MP gifts
is out again and Mike slams people who we are lanyards.
But before any of that, is supermarket competition ever really
going to be real?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nicola Willis has found time to remind us that after
tomorrow she'll be returning to her crusade against the supermarkets.
The government not a fan of the banks, all the supermarkets.
Of course, they keep saying they're going to do something
about them, and by doing that, we're going to get
a better deal, whatever that looks like. And in that
is the trouble labor, who were way worse at the
economy than Willis made the mistake of having market studies
(01:27):
that achieved nothing. I mean they were supposed to achieve
things that just didn't. Petrol, supermarkets, telcos, all the usual suspects,
jib board or building products. That was the exception. We
now import lots of similar products we couldn't before. Presumably
the price in the markets corrected itself. Adirn said we
were being fleeced. Remember that, fleeced by the petrol stations.
Are we unfleeced now? What's changed? Tell me there's a price.
(01:49):
For specific answers as to how the petrol market is
giving us the so called better deal, Willissippe is to
rely on the old more competition is good for prices line,
which of course broadly is true. She cites Costco. Costco
have butter at just under ten dollars a pop. Apparently
it's why people are stockpiling the stuff. But there is
a reason there isn't a Mosco and Wanganui or Timaru
(02:10):
or well anywhere apart from the one they're actually is.
And that's because we have five million people and the
costco model needs a large gathering of shoppers. Same with airlines.
We'd love Emirates and Qatar and Quantas as well as
Singapore and Air New Zealand to fly daily out of
Hamilton Dunedin. But they can't. Egging this on is a
chunk of the public who swear black and blue. This
is a scam, a con and outrage and we need
(02:30):
Sheriff Willis to save the day. Oh they've got examples.
You can buy tins of peas in Queensland for three
cents and I fill it in Lancashire for a pound twenty.
Here's where I'm at. If there's a scam to be
broken up, break it up. If there's a new option
to be opened, do it. But finance ministers need to
have credibility. Willis is under pressure on that tomorrow of course,
promising Upheavil and new Tomorrows on the broadest of economic
(02:53):
theory is the stuff of fly by nighters like a
Deern Willis I am hoping is better than that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, it's not just putting your money where your mouth,
as is it when you're in politics. It's putting everybody's
money where your mouth is, and that's why you've got
to be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Although Chris Hopkins doesn't seem to have been held accountable
for some of the stuff that his government got up to.
He's still there and still bleeding on about things.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So Chris Hipkins needs help as far as I can
work out for the life of me. As I said
to due the moment, Ago got no idea why he's
wasting his time defending the Marory Party. He sees their
punishment's too harsh. Problem one? Is he doing it because
it is seen as anti government? In other words, despite
him saying he wasn't going to bark at any passing car,
he barks at any parsing car. Problem two. This reinforces
the general view that the Labour Party are soft on
(03:40):
people who break rules. Consequences should always be watered down.
Problem three. He is the leader of a major party
and the major parties represent You would have hoped a
bipartisan view that behavior and rules and etiquette are to
be adhered to in a place of national leadership. Problem four.
The Marory Party are nothing but trouble and you want
as a centrist to stay well clear of them. They
don't like parliament, they don't even believe it should exist,
(04:02):
and if it does exist, they should have a separate
one for themselves. Hipkins is like some tragic legal aid
bootletlawyer who defends the hopeless for the sake of it.
There is no upside for him, and yet in budget
week he has brought into the narrative yet again that
some poor SAPs have been hard done by and it's
all not fair and he somehow has to be on
the side of the victim. Problem five. So whatever you
(04:24):
want about the Privileges Committee, but it is the Parliament's
long standing court and his party is part of it.
Seems odd and undermining that you're willing to partake in
the process, then bag it when it reaches a conclusion.
Problem six. A few of his own members, of course,
were part of the original crime that infamous day when
things went dramatically to the pack, So maybe he feels
like a hypocrite given Penny Henray fell on his sword
(04:44):
and the others were too belligerent to do so either way.
Problem seven. New Zealanders want like and demand standards, so
he's on the wrong side of this. And problem eight.
When we aren't wanting to improve behavior, we wouldn't mind
the big players and the political game concentrating on the
big issues like the mess economically, we're currently and as
engineered by the bloke who's busy barking at passing cars,
(05:06):
the Greens and the Murray Party a minor play. Not
serious people. Labor are supposed to be serious. So how
about giving it a crack.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, the trouble is you need you need a few
mates because otherwise, as I've talked about before, and you know,
some poles over written, you know, recent times have shown
that they run the risk of not being the opposition anymore.
That might be act. So yeah, they might not be
the friends you choose, the friends you're forced to have
(05:34):
because of the only ones around.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Wrap.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Turn our attention back to the United States now, although
we might not be able to see it underneath the
Dome of gold.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Exciting news out of Washington this morning. He's talked about
it for a while, the Golden Dome. So Israel's got
their dome, the Iron Dome. Trump's going to have a
golden dome. So we're in the Oval Office. Pete hig
Seth is there. They're probably hooked it into signal just
so everyone else can listen in. How much does Golden
Dome cost? One hundred and seventy five billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of
intercepting missiles even if they are launched from other sides
of the world, and even if they're launched from space,
and we will have the best system ever built. As
you know, we helped Israel with theirs and it was
very successful. And now we have technology that's even far
(06:28):
advanced from that. But including hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, and
advanced cruise missiles, all of them will be knocked out
of the air.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Only problem is the immediate question if I was in
the defense force that I would raise is that the
reason Israel has an iron Dome is because they spend
quite a lot of time getting bombed, and last time
I looked to America doesn't really spend a lot of
time getting bombed. Unless Trump knows something that I don't,
so I'd be going bang for buck. No pun intended,
(07:00):
mister President. I'm just wondering if we've got bit of money,
you know, things to spend our money on. Canada's apparently
going to be in bold the new text Build a big,
beautiful Bill's going to write twenty five billion of that
one hundred and seventy five billion dollars and it's going
to be operational in three years. I'll believe that when
I see it, they'll probably unless they get it from Costco,
and I obviously don't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, it's basically the same as Israel's other than
the fact that Israel is only point two two percent
the size of the United States exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, it's scale at scale, isn't it. You get bulk
deals of things precise, you're just buying more of the
bits that you need. I'm assuming is how that works.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's hard to know how we'll know if it's operational,
given that it's still not really clear where the demand
from it came from. Not that many missiles have ever
been shot into America, so that so Trump will probably
need another term. I guess. So about the end of
(07:58):
that term, you can say, look how well the Golden
Dome worked. Not one missile got through, the rewrapped. It's
that time of year, isn't it. You know that time
of Yeah, the pecuniary list, time of year which MP
got What.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Don't you love a pecuniary list? I've got this year's
parliamentary one. Ginny Anderson got nothing, nothing, which is not
as sad as Chris Hipkins, who got nothing. That's the
leader of the opposition for you, Chris Bishop, Chris loves
a gift. I'll work you through some of that later on.
(08:37):
The Prime Minister got some stuff, but then you would
expect the Prime minister to get some stuff. You got
some wine from Gibson Valley, got a couple of watches,
one from NATO, one from the Thailand. Prime minister got
a lot of tickets to a lot of sports. A
lot of sport tickets going on. I've got no particular
from Mark Mitchell, no gifts. I would have thought Mark
was a bit more popular than that. David Seymour got
some hot laps. That's the best gift of all. No
(08:58):
one else I can see got hot laps. A couple
of people got hunting trips, which is a weird thing
in an angsty time. Would you go what'd you do
over the weekend? Oh, I went hunting?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Does make you wonder how they voted it on various.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Different That's exactly my point, Glenn. This is why we
have a pecuniary list. You have a look at this,
but no one appears to be more in receipt of
the gifts than Rachel Boyak who exactly? And you go, who,
how come someone you've never heard of got so much stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That reeks as somebody who really only got into public
life for the gifts. If the first thing you hear
about them is all the gifts, I apologize if we,
I mean we probably on the show and I've just forgotten.
But anyway, probably too many guests given that people like
Jenny and Match. Don't it any at all a rerap?
(09:57):
Time for a better lanyard talk now?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean, when isn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Let's be honest, Mike Cask Winston, he's going to apologize
to the heckler at Wellington Rail yesterday who may now
lose his job. Grant, get real, He's not apologizing to him.
He's the one who started it. It is an interesting debate,
as I wouldn't have thought he's going to lose his job,
but it is an interesting debate as to when you're
an individual and when you're a member of the company. Now,
the problem was he was wearing his tonguinent, Taylor's the
(10:23):
company is wearing his tonguent and Taylor lanyard. Can I
just say something just for the record. This is just me.
Don't wear lanyards. They are the rudest thing going. Do
not put pens in your pocket or wear lanyards. Wake
up people. And as for you, people who have got
your cards, your swipe cards on a stretchy bit of
elastic to your belt, come on, get it together. You
(10:43):
probably wear That's what I do exactly say no more.
You're a docker docker wearing a belt.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's not where are you? What are you supposed to
do with that? What is he putting it in his pocket?
And where does that leave people who don't have pockets?
And by that I mean women, because of course women
aren't allowed pockets, as we all know, very unusual to
find a dress risk Earth or even a jumpsuit with
(11:12):
decent pockets. Let's sort the equal pay out and let's
and then also let's give them some pockets. That's what
I say. But in the meantime, I mean you're left
with the landyard, don't you. I am a glen Hart.
That was the rewrap. I hope you can get back
in with your security card tomorrow for another edition.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'll see the end.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
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air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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