March 30, 2025 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Maybe. Eventually. Possibly/Happy Ferry Day! Or Not/The Tariff Effect/Warriors Really Are Looking Good
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all the best bits
from the mic Clasking Breakfast on Newstalks, d be in
a Sillier packet, I am being Haart And today it's
fairy Day. Apparently we might get some fairies today. How
cool is that The Warrior is delivered last night? Late
last night, but before any of that supermarket competition, Nichola
(00:48):
Willis is out to get them and so that's definitely
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Right, we talk about teaching on a Sunday morning a
ten am. Nicholas out giving us the good word on supermarket.
She doesn't like the industry. She's been telling us this
for a year and a half. She's going to do
something about the industry. She's been telling us this for
about a year and a half. So Sunday was the day,
except it wasn't. It was yet another diatribe about what
needs to be done, what could be done, what might
be done. There were more threats, more possibilities, more questions,
(01:17):
more investigations. It was also a speech of hopeless contradictions.
On one hand, she was telling us how hard it
was to enter the market at scale, how big a
risk that was, And then she was telling us this
was a twenty four billion dollar sector, more than tourism
and dairy combined. And yet she clearly hasn't stopped to
ask herself, if it's that big, do you not think
anyone who could might have had a little bit of
(01:39):
a look at the prospect of entering it. She talked
of a player being able to grab ten percent nationally.
That's over two billion dollars worth of business. You don't
reckon someone somewhere hasn't looked at the prospect of two
billion dollars worth of business. I thought, hmm, I wonder
if that isn't a bit of me to find out
why we don't have more competition. She's announced she was
launching yet another investigation. Then after six weeks she may
(02:03):
or may not get Cabinet to do something legislatively. If
that happens, she wants to do it by the end
of the year and get it passed by the end
of the term i e. The end of next year,
So an entire term and government having literally not produced
one more shop. As I've seen it all along, it
may be we are too small for another major player.
(02:23):
Maybe the niche players, along with the two giants, are
what the market tolerates. But as for Nicola and a
finger wagging, if threats were results would be getting somewhere.
If speeches were shelves of well priced food, the issue
would have been dealt to. But for a government with
an image for more talk than action, she didn't do
anything to help that reputation.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Ah So she just said that they're going to have
a what are they doing exactly? They're having a lot
to see if there's a reason why they're not doing anything.
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It certainly seems like there's a lot of people out
there here are convinced that something should definitely rehappening. Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What's the grocery commissioner and the team actually done since
Labor put them under they need to be cold, Michelle,
it's a very good point. I completely forgot about the
grocery commissioner. And do you know I forgot about the
grocery commission because he didn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I've been in the grocery industry for over thirty years
and until the last couple of years have been proud
of that industry. When COVID hitting price is shot through
the roof, it was like the retailer realized consumers will
pay anything. The greed I see, particularly from food stuff
since then is really disturbing. Are you being too generalized?
You'd have to give me a better example. And most
of the food prices that went through the roof had
little to do I think with the supermarkets, but to
(03:32):
do with every other aspect of the economy because everything
went through the roof, and that was called inflation.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
The government has to do something to appeal to the
middle class, hence the supermarket intervention. It can't look like
it's always supporting business and profit making. The average New
Zealand voter is not making profit from big business. Do
you think that's what it is? I mean, don't get
me wrong. Do I want to pay less at the supermarket?
Of course I do. We all do. But there's a
very good headline over the weekend in the Australian media
quote unquote there's no proof big supermarkets are price gouging,
(04:01):
but Labour will ban it. Anyway, and I just wonder
if we haven't got a bit of that in this country.
The government, rightly or wrongly, I would argue, probably has
got the bit between the teeth on this idea that
somehow we're being screwed, we're being ripped off, and they
want to do something about it. The political problem they face,
apart from David Seymore's point, which is very relevant one
that you can't just go around being a government that
(04:22):
goes actually, we've decided that your industry just needs to
be busted up. Who's investing in a country where they
can't trust the government. But the major point is they
keep talking. If you're going to do something, do it.
They've done nothing and yesterday didn't change that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Look, I'm sure this has been some kind of misunderstanding.
And later on in the show we talked to Chris
pha Luxm because he's decided he wants to do Mondays
and not Tuesdays for the weekly End of You, so
that that'll sort it all out rerap. But then we
talked to him and it turns out there no, he
was just sort of once again saying, yeah, we're just
(04:56):
making sure there's no reasons for competitors not to compete.
And then and then of course Mike say, well, at
least it's very day it is. We're definitely going to
have some fairies at the end of today.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Right right, he said about Winston, I don't need the
new fairies for a while, and there's plenty of time
in the process for him to look at alternative options
and to really go deep and explore it even further.
So you know, let's see what he says, is.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That a guy call me old fashioned. What I thought
was going to happen by the end of March was
he would this afternoon present a picture saying, ladies and gentlemen,
I've gone to let's make it up Hyundai, and I've
signed a deal with Hyundai and they're going to provide
us with two or three of these x y Z
fill in the dot, whatever the name of the ships are.
(05:41):
And they're going to cost this country x yd film
the name of that's going to cost one hundred million dollars.
And as a result of that, they're going to be
rail enabled or not. And as a result of that,
we're going to need some infrastructure in Wellington or Picton
or Northport or whatever the case may be, and I
was expecting the detail today.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was what gave you that idea? Was it when
he said we've.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Got to keep taking barnacles off this boat?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Or was it when he said you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Watch for the rolling thunder, Mike lust that's coming?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just like, come on, if I don't get some boats,
some names of boats and the cost of those ships
and how much infrastructure is do it? If we're going
to have more exploration and more time and more chats,
what have we actually achieved in a year and a half, remembering,
of course they spent all of last year going exactly
nowhere until we got to December and Nikola Willis made
(06:32):
the grandiose announcement that the fairy announcement is Winston Peters
is the new Minister for Fairies and so off he
was going to go until the end of March and
we were going to get all the detail we needed.
Are we going to get that detail today or not?
And if we're not? Is that two damp squid announcements
(06:52):
within twenty four hours saying things that really achieved nothing
go nowhere that are just more well, I think it's
a kaka solution, and I.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Think that really is what's hurting them the most at
the moment. They made a lot of promises on being
fast tracking and kicking ass and not dicking around, and
it seems like there's just a lot of dicking around
the rewrap. I wonder if the tariff conversation is gonna
work out for us, because it seems like some people
(07:22):
have actually found a way to make some deals.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Have they?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, So what appears to be happening towards Liberation Day?
As I mentioned the UK at the moment, they are
keeping the powder dry, same with Australia really and there's
been no retaliatory measures, and what they're trying to do
behind the scenes is desperately And Britain's in a similar
position to us. They argue a balanced trade portfolio, so
in other words, it's not one sided. So they're looking
for some sort of exemption. I don't think that an
(07:46):
exemption will come. It might have mean Trump sort of
wanders and vaguely suggests some days that it might be
a little lighter than you think, or then again maybe
it won't be. But the point being, if they can't
carve out any exemptions, then there might be retaliation. What
sort of retaliation are you might individually go after companies
very American sort of companies you might go after, for example,
(08:06):
Harley Davidson. The nuclear option for the British most unlikely,
they say, is it would be targeting financial services. So
depending on how their retaliate depends on whether America retaliates
to the retaliation.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, the last thing you want is a retaliating retaliation
to the retaliating art adapter. I was going to be
able to make such a great joke there and I
just couldn't get it out. Sorry, the rewrapped. Look, let's
just make everybody feel a bit better by celebrating another
excellent Warriors when.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
If you paid close attention, the first thing you would
have noticed about last night's game was how wet it was.
The East coast of Australia's had a shocking summer, and
not just the headline grabbing storms, but just generally it's
rained a lot meantime, and I don't want to upset
the farmers, but meantime we've had the summer to remember
in this part of the world. So against the Tigers
it was wet and slippery, which didn't ironically stop at
(08:57):
being an open and free flowing game. Not just that,
but a pretty high scoring one as well. You would
have thought the West Tigers might have been a little
bit easier than they were. You might have thought of
the past three weeks, this was the one you could
bank the two points on. But well that's the NRL,
isn't it. It really turns out the way you thought. But
when you talk of the past three games, what we
can now say, and we alluded to it last week,
(09:18):
is that Vegas was clearly won out of the box.
Vegas was not representative in any way, shape or form
of what was to unfold the season. Ordered it represent
where we're at as a team, and where we are
at as a team is three in a row, in
the top eight, in fact, in the top six, and
just two points off the top of the tipity top
of the table. Yes, early days, but you can only
(09:38):
win the games you're given, and we've won seventy five
percent of them. And as open and easy as some
of the tries we let leak last night, we more
than return Fabor, indicating that if you're going to toss
the ball about in the rain, things can get free
and easy. There were at least a couple of highlight
tries one basically the length of the field. A late
penalty got us across the line in that did it
really need to be as tight as it was? Sort
(09:59):
of way, But to travel to play bollocks and bollocks conditions,
to play open and running rugby league and to chalk
up another win is all you can ask of, any sigh,
given it didn't start until late, by the way, people
who get up at two thirty in the morning didn't
see it live. So I watched it in the early
hours of a Monday morning. What a way to start
the week. What a win, What a team and top
six two points off the tippity top of the table.
(10:21):
Did I mention that, come on, evidence is now mounting
incrementally that this is our year.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yes, Mike was very busy watching the Warriors when I
got into work this morning because he did not stay
up last night. Of course, there couldn't get his attention
even for barely said good morning to me. Actually, and
he always says good morning. But yeah, I am quite
for graddually hamming to have met that there. Maybe the
Warriors are playing relatively consistently so far with that first
(10:53):
little glitch, just a glitch, well, good luck to them.
I want them to so that I don't want them
to win. I definitely want them to win. I am
glad heart who knows how many fairies will get by
the end of the day. And we'll see you back
here tomorrow and we'll count the.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
More rerap for more from News Talks at b Listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Rewrap Idea and.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all the best bits
from the mic Clasking Breakfast on Newstalks, d be in
a Sillier packet, I am being Haart And today it's
fairy Day. Apparently we might get some fairies today. How
cool is that The Warrior is delivered last night? Late
last night, but before any of that supermarket competition, Nichola
(00:48):
Willis is out to get them and so that's definitely
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Right, we talk about teaching on a Sunday morning a
ten am. Nicholas out giving us the good word on supermarket.
She doesn't like the industry. She's been telling us this
for a year and a half. She's going to do
something about the industry. She's been telling us this for
about a year and a half. So Sunday was the day,
except it wasn't. It was yet another diatribe about what
needs to be done, what could be done, what might
be done. There were more threats, more possibilities, more questions,
(01:17):
more investigations. It was also a speech of hopeless contradictions.
On one hand, she was telling us how hard it
was to enter the market at scale, how big a
risk that was, And then she was telling us this
was a twenty four billion dollar sector, more than tourism
and dairy combined. And yet she clearly hasn't stopped to
ask herself, if it's that big, do you not think
anyone who could might have had a little bit of
(01:39):
a look at the prospect of entering it. She talked
of a player being able to grab ten percent nationally.
That's over two billion dollars worth of business. You don't
reckon someone somewhere hasn't looked at the prospect of two
billion dollars worth of business. I thought, hmm, I wonder
if that isn't a bit of me to find out
why we don't have more competition. She's announced she was
launching yet another investigation. Then after six weeks she may
(02:03):
or may not get Cabinet to do something legislatively. If
that happens, she wants to do it by the end
of the year and get it passed by the end
of the term i e. The end of next year,
So an entire term and government having literally not produced
one more shop. As I've seen it all along, it
may be we are too small for another major player.
(02:23):
Maybe the niche players, along with the two giants, are
what the market tolerates. But as for Nicola and a
finger wagging, if threats were results would be getting somewhere.
If speeches were shelves of well priced food, the issue
would have been dealt to. But for a government with
an image for more talk than action, she didn't do
anything to help that reputation.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Ah So she just said that they're going to have
a what are they doing exactly? They're having a lot
to see if there's a reason why they're not doing anything.
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It certainly seems like there's a lot of people out
there here are convinced that something should definitely rehappening. Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What's the grocery commissioner and the team actually done since
Labor put them under they need to be cold, Michelle,
it's a very good point. I completely forgot about the
grocery commissioner. And do you know I forgot about the
grocery commission because he didn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I've been in the grocery industry for over thirty years
and until the last couple of years have been proud
of that industry. When COVID hitting price is shot through
the roof, it was like the retailer realized consumers will
pay anything. The greed I see, particularly from food stuff
since then is really disturbing. Are you being too generalized?
You'd have to give me a better example. And most
of the food prices that went through the roof had
little to do I think with the supermarkets, but to
(03:32):
do with every other aspect of the economy because everything
went through the roof, and that was called inflation.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
The government has to do something to appeal to the
middle class, hence the supermarket intervention. It can't look like
it's always supporting business and profit making. The average New
Zealand voter is not making profit from big business. Do
you think that's what it is? I mean, don't get
me wrong. Do I want to pay less at the supermarket?
Of course I do. We all do. But there's a
very good headline over the weekend in the Australian media
quote unquote there's no proof big supermarkets are price gouging,
(04:01):
but Labour will ban it. Anyway, and I just wonder
if we haven't got a bit of that in this country.
The government, rightly or wrongly, I would argue, probably has
got the bit between the teeth on this idea that
somehow we're being screwed, we're being ripped off, and they
want to do something about it. The political problem they face,
apart from David Seymore's point, which is very relevant one
that you can't just go around being a government that
(04:22):
goes actually, we've decided that your industry just needs to
be busted up. Who's investing in a country where they
can't trust the government. But the major point is they
keep talking. If you're going to do something, do it.
They've done nothing and yesterday didn't change that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Look, I'm sure this has been some kind of misunderstanding.
And later on in the show we talked to Chris
pha Luxm because he's decided he wants to do Mondays
and not Tuesdays for the weekly End of You, so
that that'll sort it all out rerap. But then we
talked to him and it turns out there no, he
was just sort of once again saying, yeah, we're just
(04:56):
making sure there's no reasons for competitors not to compete.
And then and then of course Mike say, well, at
least it's very day it is. We're definitely going to
have some fairies at the end of today.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Right right, he said about Winston, I don't need the
new fairies for a while, and there's plenty of time
in the process for him to look at alternative options
and to really go deep and explore it even further.
So you know, let's see what he says, is.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That a guy call me old fashioned. What I thought
was going to happen by the end of March was
he would this afternoon present a picture saying, ladies and gentlemen,
I've gone to let's make it up Hyundai, and I've
signed a deal with Hyundai and they're going to provide
us with two or three of these x y Z
fill in the dot, whatever the name of the ships are.
(05:41):
And they're going to cost this country x yd film
the name of that's going to cost one hundred million dollars.
And as a result of that, they're going to be
rail enabled or not. And as a result of that,
we're going to need some infrastructure in Wellington or Picton
or Northport or whatever the case may be, and I
was expecting the detail today.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was what gave you that idea? Was it when
he said we've.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Got to keep taking barnacles off this boat?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Or was it when he said you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Watch for the rolling thunder, Mike lust that's coming?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just like, come on, if I don't get some boats,
some names of boats and the cost of those ships
and how much infrastructure is do it? If we're going
to have more exploration and more time and more chats,
what have we actually achieved in a year and a half, remembering,
of course they spent all of last year going exactly
nowhere until we got to December and Nikola Willis made
(06:32):
the grandiose announcement that the fairy announcement is Winston Peters
is the new Minister for Fairies and so off he
was going to go until the end of March and
we were going to get all the detail we needed.
Are we going to get that detail today or not?
And if we're not? Is that two damp squid announcements
(06:52):
within twenty four hours saying things that really achieved nothing
go nowhere that are just more well, I think it's
a kaka solution, and I.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Think that really is what's hurting them the most at
the moment. They made a lot of promises on being
fast tracking and kicking ass and not dicking around, and
it seems like there's just a lot of dicking around
the rewrap. I wonder if the tariff conversation is gonna
work out for us, because it seems like some people
(07:22):
have actually found a way to make some deals.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Have they?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, So what appears to be happening towards Liberation Day?
As I mentioned the UK at the moment, they are
keeping the powder dry, same with Australia really and there's
been no retaliatory measures, and what they're trying to do
behind the scenes is desperately And Britain's in a similar
position to us. They argue a balanced trade portfolio, so
in other words, it's not one sided. So they're looking
for some sort of exemption. I don't think that an
(07:46):
exemption will come. It might have mean Trump sort of
wanders and vaguely suggests some days that it might be
a little lighter than you think, or then again maybe
it won't be. But the point being, if they can't
carve out any exemptions, then there might be retaliation. What
sort of retaliation are you might individually go after companies
very American sort of companies you might go after, for example,
(08:06):
Harley Davidson. The nuclear option for the British most unlikely,
they say, is it would be targeting financial services. So
depending on how their retaliate depends on whether America retaliates
to the retaliation.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, the last thing you want is a retaliating retaliation
to the retaliating art adapter. I was going to be
able to make such a great joke there and I
just couldn't get it out. Sorry, the rewrapped. Look, let's
just make everybody feel a bit better by celebrating another
excellent Warriors when.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
If you paid close attention, the first thing you would
have noticed about last night's game was how wet it was.
The East coast of Australia's had a shocking summer, and
not just the headline grabbing storms, but just generally it's
rained a lot meantime, and I don't want to upset
the farmers, but meantime we've had the summer to remember
in this part of the world. So against the Tigers
it was wet and slippery, which didn't ironically stop at
(08:57):
being an open and free flowing game. Not just that,
but a pretty high scoring one as well. You would
have thought the West Tigers might have been a little
bit easier than they were. You might have thought of
the past three weeks, this was the one you could
bank the two points on. But well that's the NRL,
isn't it. It really turns out the way you thought. But
when you talk of the past three games, what we
can now say, and we alluded to it last week,
(09:18):
is that Vegas was clearly won out of the box.
Vegas was not representative in any way, shape or form
of what was to unfold the season. Ordered it represent
where we're at as a team, and where we are
at as a team is three in a row, in
the top eight, in fact, in the top six, and
just two points off the top of the tipity top
of the table. Yes, early days, but you can only
(09:38):
win the games you're given, and we've won seventy five
percent of them. And as open and easy as some
of the tries we let leak last night, we more
than return Fabor, indicating that if you're going to toss
the ball about in the rain, things can get free
and easy. There were at least a couple of highlight
tries one basically the length of the field. A late
penalty got us across the line in that did it
really need to be as tight as it was? Sort
(09:59):
of way, But to travel to play bollocks and bollocks conditions,
to play open and running rugby league and to chalk
up another win is all you can ask of, any sigh,
given it didn't start until late, by the way, people
who get up at two thirty in the morning didn't
see it live. So I watched it in the early
hours of a Monday morning. What a way to start
the week. What a win, What a team and top
six two points off the tippity top of the table.
(10:21):
Did I mention that, come on, evidence is now mounting
incrementally that this is our year.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yes, Mike was very busy watching the Warriors when I
got into work this morning because he did not stay
up last night. Of course, there couldn't get his attention
even for barely said good morning to me. Actually, and
he always says good morning. But yeah, I am quite
for graddually hamming to have met that there. Maybe the
Warriors are playing relatively consistently so far with that first
(10:53):
little glitch, just a glitch, well, good luck to them.
I want them to so that I don't want them
to win. I definitely want them to win. I am
glad heart who knows how many fairies will get by
the end of the day. And we'll see you back
here tomorrow and we'll count the.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
More rerap for more from News Talks at b Listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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