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November 26, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) What Did Christian Want to Be When He Grew Up?/Hosk vs Teachers/When Is Black Friday Exactly/Going to the Dogs/It Might Be How We're Drinking

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good day there and welcome to the Rewrap.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Fourth Thursday, All the best bits from the Mic Hosking
breakfast on News Talks EDB in a sillier package. I
am Brian Hart and today it's Teachers versus Hosking, Husking
versus Teachers, that old grudge match again Black Friday?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Today tomorrow? Did it happen last week? When is it? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We've got some stance on that for you. Shortly out
of the US the dog show, the Dog Trialing and
they're making a movie out of it and some interesting
baar consumption trends to discuss it before.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Any of that. Has it been the year of Osier?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Or what a couple of things are the Christian's announcement
yesterday before he rocks up later this morning. One the
vote was five to one? Who's the one? And how
is it possible they think they're doing nothing? Was an answer?
And how obsessed have the committee been over the past
year on this idea that their cuts are yet to
flow through to the economy. And if we just hold
and hold and hold the good times are coming took
about a misreat. Two? Given that, don't you want to

(01:22):
know who these people are and what they think and
why they think it, and therefore we can gain greater
insight as to whether we should have any confidence in
them at all. Three? Given the call and the fact
it's probably the last cut, can we not all conclude
that the mid year pause where they did nothing believing
that done enough, might be just one of the bigger
cockups of modern economics.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Four?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
What about the commentary greater caution on the part of
households and businesses could slow the pace of recovery. Alternatively,
their recovery could be faster and stronger than expected. Awesome,
So experts, without a clue, anything could happen. Your guess
is as good as mine. Five. The retail banks to
the cooperative were in like a robber's dog. The floating
now is below five. So you reckon, I reckon, you

(02:00):
get something with a four mid four long term. I'd
go for it. I mean, take my advice or leave it.
I don't care, but force something for five years that
looks pretty to me. I just think this is it.
I think a whole lot of people were looking for
an end. This is as close to an end as
a bunch of non committals will give you. It's summer,
it's Christmas. We're over it. The recovery is there or
thereabouts for enough people to materially get on with life. Six.

(02:23):
There was some commentary that was a bit hawkish. Ah,
you know what it would mean more to me if
I honestly thought these people were on top of their game.
You give weight too expertise. I'm not sure we're dealing
with METS members here at all? Could we should we
have done it differently?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Of course we should have.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
But two point twenty five short of the world going
pop and actually don't rule that out, but short of
a calamitous private equity AI bubble bursting meltdown, we can
turn the page. Bring on twenty six. Things, as Dream
said in nineteen ninety three, can only get better?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Did you know that The astrophysicist Brian Cox was in
d reen.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
But saying I think it's can only get better.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean you will if you listen to the podcast
The Infinite Monkey Cage.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's where I got it.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Do I sound like I'm over talking about the OCA?
Maybe the rewrap right our teachers, buck alart.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
The husk has got something nice to say about you?
Or has he tell you? What?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Tell you? What I like about the educators winging away
as they have been this week over won the curriculum
redo and to the treaty treatment is they are at
least standing their ground. They're having their say and that's
no bad thing. Struck me yesterday when I read Roger
Graves speak Roger Grave auckland Port, when he talked of
No Zealand, of naysayers, of the cruise people he visited
in Miami and their view of New Zealand not wanting

(03:44):
a cruise industry. I've justina done call him the Petrie dishes.
Where were the Roger Grays when she was actually in
charge and wrecking the joint? Huh? The educators at least
are bold enough to tell the current government they don't
like what's going on. But where was the business community
as their companies were being shafted in the prizes for
gonads and backbone. The educators win hands down. Not that

(04:05):
they're right, of course, and in that is the gargantu
and irony. The educators complained about rules and change, and
yet are irrefutably on the wrong side of history given
the education outcomes produced in this country, and yet businesses
business was nowhere near nowhere to be seen or heard,
despite the fact that we all knew the country was
being strangled by power freaks and they would eventually be

(04:25):
proven to be right. But as much as I defend
an educator's right to speak up, there is something deeply
insidious about the way educators, particularly unions, operate. Don't you
think the list, the list these signatories, the signatories of
principles who have signed this protest to the Education minister
over the curriculum change is driven by the Education Minister

(04:46):
told us by the unions. And it's a standover tactic.
It's an intimidatory play. You're bullied, you're harried, you're cajoled
into signing, hence she claims you then ring her up
and tell you sign reluctantly. That sadly says something about
a principle that acts out of fear, sort of like business,
hating the decision but saying nothing. Fear is no way
to live your life. Some I get it, I mean

(05:09):
life assured, who needs the grief? But if that is
the mentality and education. If that is the modus operandi
of the unions, what sort of world are our kids
entering into? What sort of brainwashing, whether overt or subliminal,
do our kids get subjected to? The Minister in telling
us all this on Tuesday, said it's disgusting, and she
said it with passion. It's disgusting. Anyone wanted to disagree with.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
That, well, probably the teachers, certainly the Teacher's union, I guess. So, yeah,
haven't a ad mise your tenacity that doesn't have a
lot of time for your arguments pride. I still have
absolutely no idea when Black Friday begins and ends.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think it's happening at the moment. Certainly seems to be.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Black Friday news from the stage at and T survey,
gin z, are you biggest Black Friday? Shop? Is older
generation shop closer to Christmas? More people get gift ideas
from shopping in person and social media. So I'm encouraged
by that. That's part of their ongoing sort of the
Cay shape. We've got a K shaped economy as well.
In other words, if you gainful employed and you're doing okay,
you've got plenty of money. You're living your life. If

(06:14):
you're at the other end, you're on the other shape
of the k or the other stick of the cave.
Forty percent of gen Z thirty two percent of millennials
plan to do most of their shopping Black Friday. Gen
Z planned to spend twenty three percent less because everyone's angsty.
Big decline, biggest decline of any generation. Seventy percent or
seventy seven percent of consumers report that they will do
all their holiday shopping at small businesses if they could.

(06:37):
I don't believe any of that personally. But I'm having
trouble getting home at the moment too. Somebody said yesterday,
actually Carl was round delivering my coffee machin. He's fixed
its back, so that was a very exciting day. But
we were talking, I was a tremendous trouble getting home
at the moment because the traffic is just mental. And
I said, Carl, I'm having trouble getting home at the
moment because the traffic's just mental. And he said, I reckon,

(06:58):
it's Black Friday, And I thought, is it? And then
I read in the Herald, yesterday's one of the weird
headlines that you've got to start planning for Black Friday,
as though planned what plan you park or plan your
bus route, or plan what you're going to buy?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
What are you planning anti anxiety? Nets? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Probably, But I mean, is that a thing? Is the
traffic crazy at the moment just because of Black Friday?
Or am I literally making that up?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
It seems to be a lot of people who don't
know how to drive driving out there.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what I've noticed, a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Of people going really slowly in the fast lane. A
lot of people who think that just changing lanes every
thirty seconds will get them to where they're going quicker.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
There's a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Or Mike and I just it's becoming grumpier and grumpier
older and older men maybe had glass pats.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Definitely true. Rewrap right and movie news.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
We're going to watch some dogs hustle, some sheep into
some pens, blow me down.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I mean, come on, I start talking about the dog
show and then what I didn't realize is they're making
a film with the dog show, and the film's going
to be called a dog Show and it's going to
start I don't know any of this was happening. It's
going to start Graham McTavish. I don't know how the
show because it was a contest, wasn't It was a
contest where you rounded up the sheep. How many people
listening to this program this morning and going what the

(08:15):
hell is he talking?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is it like a documentary?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Is it a it's a film or a film as
that say in Queensland?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah? Is it a documentary film?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Or is it a no? No, it's a film film.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like a written drugs drama.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
With the script yeah, worth Worth Peaks and Troughs and.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It'll be like Crackerjack, you know the bulls won or.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Could we like that? What the hell is he talking about?
Dog show? Graham mctabash. David Wenham, Now remember Whenham from
what was the set in Southern Australia with Cigared Thornton,
absolutely superb and Teresa Healy. The feature film inspired by
the television show, written and directed by Alex Gelvin. I apologize,

(08:54):
I know not who Alex Gelvin is. I hope he's good.
Slated for release in late twenty twenty six, filming across
Wellington and the wire Rapper. Last time I looked at
the Wellington and the wire Rapper region in terms of farming.
This fabulous story on country calendar. Why do they make
a movie a country calendar as well? While they're at it?
Fabulous beef farm out the back of Wellington with they
got the windmills for the solar windmills for the wind generation.

(09:15):
They've got the other counts as well.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think my dog might be a frustrated sheep warrior.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
We've got sheep in the pedof across the road from
my house. He likes to back at them, give them
a little scare, run up to the tense.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I've told him not to do it, but he loves it.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think he thinks it's hilarious. It is quite funny
because they'll just be standing in minding your own business,
and he'll just walk along casually and then just suddenly.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Rush towards them. And then it's almost like he's stands
in and goes sheep.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I do wonder what would happen if you actually got
in the paddod with them, and whether they would end
up chasing him. Wrap right, and let's finish up with
a beer for three or four ten.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Quick thing on beer for you. This interests me because
I'm not a huge beer drinker. I've started drinking beer
because the weather's warmed up, so I'm a warm weather
beer drinker. And what generally happens is, as a rule,
as I buy a dozen and they last me the summer.
So if you come to my place in February. Obviously
no one comes to my place in February, but theoretically,
if you came to my place in February, you'd probably
find like a beer, possibly two left cans from the dozen.

(10:22):
So I'm not a big beer drink. And the reason
I tell you this is that we're drinking about the
same amount of beer, which is two hundred seventy nine
million liters. And I thought, you know what I do
person like me but as burgers. As soon as I
see a number like that, I hit the calculator and
I've worked out that that is sixty seven liters per person,
So I base it on there's four million adults of
drinking age, but not every one of the four million

(10:43):
drinks at all. Far less drinks beer, so I've averaged
it out a bit. But at four million, you're drinking
sixty seven liters, which I cut down to three cans
three and a half cans a week now I don't
personally drink three and a half cans a week or
anywhere close to that. So someone's drinking my lot and
every other person who doesn't drink beer at all. But
at three and a half cans a week, every week
all year, that's a lot of beer. And that's before

(11:04):
you get to French Martinis. I didn't see any stats
yesterday on French Martin, but I reckon there's a story.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You need to follow up stats on the cocktail chaser.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I reckon there's a story there to be told.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Somebody contact us to say that they go through forty
about forty eight.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Beers a week, which was a bit of a revelation.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I was breath tested on my way to work this
morning and the police officer asked me if I'd had
anything to drink tonight, and I immediately said no, think
of course I haven't. I'm on my way to work,
but of course, and this is just before around about
three o'clock in the morning this morning, And then of

(11:49):
course I realized that they probably meant, you know, the
previous evening, and I had actually had a couple of
wines at an event I was at, so I'd lied
to the police.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
At that point.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It was a move point anyway, I still had to
count it to the thing, and the thing obviously didn't
say anything alarming, because then they waved me on that
if you have forty eight years a week, then that
person was a truck driver.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
How does that work?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not very well.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I wouldn't have thought it anyway. On that note, I
am Glen Hart. Cheers and we'll see with him tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
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