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February 17, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) How Do We Turn This Ship Around?/Too Nice to Deport/More Coal Please/Laptop Dining Controversy

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
But that's from the my classing breakfast on news Books.
He'd be in a sillier package. I am Glen Hart
and today to deport or not to deport? I mean,
what if you're really nice? Do you still have to
be deported? If you're an illegal overstayer?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Have we got enough coal get us through the winter.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, that's right, I said Cole and lapped up dining pros,
cons for and against. But before any of that, the
public service are they in for as sort of an
elong mask Doge style shake up here in New Zealand?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Can I join a couple of dots? You your firstly,
congratulations to the Public Service Commissioner, Brian wrote, who, in
his first report, after wandering the corridors of public service
them for a couple of weeks, has come back with
the observation it's not fit for purpose. I think Joel
repeat that it's not fit for purpose. I think most
of us probably suspected that, and its further evidence that

(01:21):
what the government did last year, and trimming numbers was
well and truly overdue. Not that losing your job is
any fun, of course, But the cold hard truth of
it is governments, especially left leaning ones, never think about
that as they fire up the hiring and bloake the
place into sedagnation. What Roach says, as there are too
many meetings and that's a reason not to make a decision.
So let me ask you this, is it possible that
part of what the government is copying at the moment,

(01:42):
ie too many announcements, not enough result, lies in part
at the feet of the public service. Do the government
expect that when they get a department to do something,
they actually think something is going to happen, and mainly
from Bryan's reporting, it doesn't. Or how about this, do
the public service hate the government and are determined to
course Hapock? Is the public service not neutral at all?
They like labor because labour hires lots of them, gives

(02:03):
them all pay rises. So if they can make the
right leaners look useless, they can get labour back, boost
the union, get more jobs, more money, more morning teas,
and it's back to the good old days. This is
not to say there aren't excellent people who found everywhere,
because there are, of course, but the public service has
a different sort of culture. I remember I learned this
when I worked for radio in New Zealand many years ago.
It's not like any other radio operator I ever worked for.
Next step, it's one thing to observe. It's not fit

(02:26):
for purpose.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
What now?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
It feels like a very big ship, and big ships
are hard to turn.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, do you just scuttle it and turn it into
a a deep sea diving park?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Is that where the analogy falls down? It's the rewrap, right.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
So we've got these people with a kid, but they're
not legal.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Is the kid legal? Do we have dreamers here in
New Zealand? This is all very complicated, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
How fascinating is the coup marque?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
And how would you like to be Chris Peak the
minister in charge of making the call as to whether
to deport people. And in a way, this is a
singular little example of what the Americans deal with millions
of times over there seems no justice. Eighteen year old
Darman's parents are overstays. Darman was born here, it's his home.
So does he get deported? And do his parents get
deported if you follow the law. The answer seems simple,
Yes they do. It's not Darmond's fault. His parents broke

(03:20):
the law, and that's the birth's debate. Of course, in America,
the illegals come across the border, they have a child,
the child is an illegal, and yet it's not their fault.
It is their home. It's the only country they know.
A democratic administration gives you leniency, a republican not so much.
There are as there always are questions around how you
can be here as an overstayer for many, many, many years. Also,

(03:41):
I assume these are decent people. I mean if they
were criminals or reprobates, the decisions would be a lot easier.
Of course, so family who work, contribute to the country
call it their own. They want to stay. No shortage
of emotion in the old argument. Now I'm sure part
of their issue at some point once they technically became
overstay as they feared getting caught. You know, after I
don't know, a week, a month, a year, do you

(04:01):
come clean to your tidy year affairs up? Do you
plead for leniency, hope for the best, do you try
your luck? Surely in doing what they did that they
must have known the game at some point for some
reason would be up. Or maybe after eight years or
nine years, or fifteen or twenty one years, maybe they
put it to one side. Maybe they would never be
found out, they thought to themselves, So what to do?

(04:22):
The section is three seventy eight of the Immigration Act.
The Minister can apparently do anything he likes. Easy to say,
go on, let them stay. But you set the precedent,
don't you. And that's the trouble with powerful jobs and
big decisions, hardly ever simple. It may well be the
hardest thing to think ever does unless you get well,
unless he lets them stay. Of course that would be easier,
make you feel good and probably with minimal pushback.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yes, that whole thing, isn't it that?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know? You want rules and laws and stuff to
be hard and fast and black and white in no
gray areas.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
But do they have to be sometimes? Sake? You can
make an exception sometimes okay? Yeah? Or can you rewrap?
That's why I'm not in charge of anything.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Hey, is it going to be cold and dark this winter?
And if so, will we have enough power to make
it warm and light for.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
All the people contacting me about hooks by being off
here on the FM yesterdays. We've just unplugged it to
save some money on the power. I had to look
at the coal supply, so Genesis they're pumping up huntly.
Everyone's pumping in more coal into the country, so we're
just getting ahead of it. So we want to save
a little bit of power this morning. Yeah, coal Genesis
they've got a stockpile currently of half a million tons.

(05:31):
They've ordered another half a million tons, and they're going
to place in order for another couple one hundred thousand
tons just in case. So one point two million tons
of coal mainly coming in from Indonesia. Renewable plan going excellently,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Would we be better off just burning the coal ourselves
and our houses. It seems like double handling then burning
the coal, giving us the ele tricity so we can
make There's obviously something I'm missing, No change the air
the rewrap. Now onto the main business of the day,
of course, which turned out to be the Prime Minister

(06:07):
revealing that he goes home and his dinner on his
lap with the missus watching Telly.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Is this is it just me? Am I snob and
thinking that sitting there with your dinner on your knees
is a bit weird. This is a bit weird, isn't it.
It's me we were not encourious because you are so
I don't know, it's just that it's it's got a sad,
lonely Hello, man, was your night, Amanda?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Was?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
How are you supposed to watch Netflix?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
We don't watch while you're eating dinner for a start,
is my thing? And then maybe I don't know the tape.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
This is where you've gone completely wrong.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Check to your chat to your partner. I mean it's
not like he hasn't got interesting chat. I mean, the
guy's running a country, for God's sake, And even if
you don't like him and wouldn't have voted for him,
he's still got interesting chat.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
As the travelers, though his day has been quite widely covered.
By the time he gets.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
He's probably watched it on Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Exactly, he's got nothing new to tell.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Her, although she could say I've seen I saw your
post cap. Yeah, what'd you think? Tatoes are nice? Aren't they?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
I thought you're a bit slow on that one from
Jinna Oh? Was I okay? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Maybe the real story behind whom he's running this country.
Eh what Yeah? So this is obviously, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Quite the bombshell in on your onion, on your knees.
You'd hope that there's a tray involved. And it's not
just plate straight on straight on his suit the re wrap.
And if you haven't tried a stable table or otherwise

(07:35):
known as a bean bag tray, what are you doing.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Regards a bean bag tray? It turns out I'm quite
possibly a snob, which will who saw this coming? So
Sam virtually every night because he got a bean bag
tray for his thirteenth birthday from his mum, and so
he sits in front of the telly every night and
with his bean bag tray eating his dinner. So a

(08:00):
lot of people do.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Who'd be fair.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
He's not sitting there, you know, ignoring his partner because
she's not home from work at that point.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
So he's just washed by himself, himself, the little SAMs,
by himself, little bean back and.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Alo he doesn't actually have a table to which he
doesn't have a table in a city living, you know
how it is.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Only an outside table sitting outside, So he's got to
sit inside in the corner on his lap, there's a
little bean bag tray. He's a little producer who could.
And then but then Glenn at that point, Glenn at
that point said, we've got bean bag trays too. Here
we go. So anyway, for all I know, Luxon and

(08:41):
Amanda have got bean bag trays, and the whole country's
got bean bag trays. Twenty eight bucks for a bean
bag tray on Timu, but I wouldn't buy it because
it'll have been made by slave labor. So you need
to go to Mighty Ape. You have delivery problems with
the Mighty eight. Here's my last story with Mighty Ape.
We went and bought a perfume at Mighty Ape on
Mighty Ape, and they designate perfume as is it a

(09:07):
poison or and it's dangerous dangerous goods. They call it
dangerous goods because we ordered this.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is it because they know what you're going to do
with it when you get it. You're just going to
douse yourself in it nearby, becoming a weapon of mess
destruction for your colleagues.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
It took weeks and we thought where the hell's has
come from? And it goes, oh, it's because of dangerous goods.
Since when did perfume, cologne, after shave, whatever you want
to call it become dangerous goods?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well let me know next time. Because I just live
around the corner from my.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Hour, I was going to say, you are I just
just pop in and grab some. Anyway, we eventually got it.
I thought it was a bit stupid, which brings me
to White Lotus and I watched the first episode last
night of season three, and I'm a massive We are
a massive massive White Lotus watches.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
We had our meal at the counter and when we'd faced.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Wait, God, at the counter, at the counter at the counter,
So you haven't got a table either, we've got a table,
and we interchange.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
We can go to the table or we go to
the counter. Last night we went to the counter. So
we sat at the counter, sat up at the counter
with knives and forks. That's having it at the counter
any bitter than demonstrated as it's at the counter. Anyway,
So we sat at the counter and we finished our
meal and then we sat down we watched White Lotus.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
If I hadn't said you're sitting side by, you're still
sitting side by.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Not side by side. No, I'm at the end of
the counter and she's at the left hand side.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That is my Actually, I don't like being opposite.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Could no, you don't want to be opposite.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I feel like I'm being judge from couldn't.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Agree more so, I'm at the head of the counter
and she's at the left hand side of the counter. Anyway,
works out well. So after she dismiss me to do
the dishes, finish off the washing for the day, we
sat down to White Lotus. No, if you hadn't seen
White Lotus before, you'd go God, this is a slow burn,
but it's set the table. No pun intended. Given the
discussion of all the characters. This is set in Thailand,

(11:00):
they're sort of the same. They're different people every time,
bar one they're completely different people. But they're the same
characters if you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know one So you don't like any of Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
And someone's going to end up dead. So anyway, it
looks good. I came away thinking, all, yeah, it's lost
none of its magic. All the reviews don't speak well
of it, but I speak well of it, and I
have my dinner at a counter, so that's got to
count for something.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't know about why lotus to miss Some manager
wants to watch it. I think I watched the.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
First two seasons. I thought the second one them is
better than the first one.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
But I still don't know if I really enjoyed it,
and I've not been watching something that I don't really enjoy.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
They're horrible people. They are all horrible people, the characters.
How we can let go? I suppose what else? What
else am I going to be doing? I am ben hat.
That was the rewrap.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
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