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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk S ed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best buts from the Mic Hosking breakfast on News
Talks ed B and a sillier package. I Am Glen
Heart and news. Mike is back from is a week away.
He wants to talk home ownership. He's been pouring over
the census data from last week as well, so he's
got a few views on that. Some surprising results in
(00:49):
an air news well not only a New Zealand survey,
a survey of airline passengers and how they ranked Air
New Zealand. And then we're going to finish up with
something that's been banned in California before any of that
government spending. We're really putting the brakes on this. Are
we we are? Are we we are?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So here's the writer, by the way, on the Dunedin
hospital scrap which seems to be going on and on.
If the accusation proves to be correct, i e. The
final bill isn't three billion or anywhere close to it,
then the government had been caught in some kind of
price war scam. But if it's three billion dollars plus
and I suspect it might be, then as angry as
locals are, and they're going to be right to be disappointed,
if not a bit angry. Then at some point we've
(01:32):
got to face up to the fact that you can't
simply go round building stuff no matter what it costs. Now,
the fact the bill when from one point four billion
to one point seven is a small indicator of basically
what happens to most infrastructure in this country. If it
isn't priced right, it's going to blow out. Does Dunedin
deserve a new hospital, Well, of course you do. But
for all the protesting, surely someone has asked at what cost?
(01:54):
Is their answer? At any cost? And how if it
is their answer, does that make any sense at all? Equally,
this Mari language course that was fingered as a waste,
for all the handwringing and the million that Mari nonsense
that we're hearing about it, it's a issue. It's not
about picking on Maori. It's picking on waste, and we
should all be picking on waste. One hundred million dollars
that wasn't working, wasn't effective, what's the point for goodness sake,
(02:18):
people who don't enroll, people who did enroll but didn't finish,
no real metrics around success or otherwise. We don't have
hundreds of millions to throw it stuff, and it's essentially
money down the duney. Does anyone who exercises themselves over
these things ever ask a sensible question or two? Is
it value? What are we getting for the expenditure? Do
we actually have the money in the first place? It
(02:38):
seems there's the smallest group of New Zealanders who operate
on a level of selfishness. We want a hospital who
cares what it costs and who cares of others, don't
get facilities because of it. As long as we get
what we want, who cares of half the crowd, don't
show up for the language courses, who cares of half
leave early. As long as it's there and as long
as it looks good, that's all that counts. If that's
(03:00):
the attitude, it's basically the attitude. It seems you're break.
But then it's easy, isn't it when it's other people's money.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, you can't swing too far the other way, of course,
we just have to be careful that we don't just
end up canning everything, scrapping everything and not having anything
as well. I mean, that's definitely cheap. Resident they have nothing,
so we wrap right. So the thing that always bothers
(03:27):
me about when Mike his time off is that he
sits around, you know, collating data, looking at things. Some
of those things might be things we've even already talked
about on the program. And then there are other things
like this.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I'll tell you what. Possibly my favorite stat from the
census last week was home ownership is up. Who would
have thought, well, those of us that follow the facts
would have thought that. But the commentary around housing, sadly
these days, are dictated to us by pressure groups whose
best interests to serve by telling us how broke we
all are, and are bettered by a media who sadly
don't ask a lot of questions anymore, and more often
(04:01):
than not simply parrot whatever the press release of the
day says. And so the messages were traded as one
of being unable to participate. We can't afford a house.
Housing is too expensive, Owning a home is increasingly a
cruel dream. Well, it's not true. The other stat I
often mentioned as first home bias throughout the past few years,
(04:21):
as housing costs have risen and access to money from
banks has become problematic. How many times have we heard
that so called young people have been locked out of
the market. Once again, I'm happy to report simply not true.
Percentage has remained amazingly static about twenty six twenty seven percent,
Over a quarter of all sales are to first timers,
and now the census tells us the ownership rate in
(04:42):
this country is on the up. It's important for a
couple of reasons. One because hopefully it will impart silence
the naysayers, and two, in silencing them, remind us all
of the role that housing plays in this country. Psyche,
we love houses, rightly or wrongly. Most of us are
spire who own them. They are shelter, the replace of
pride and joy. There are mechanism for savings, of course,
and what the new stats remind us of is the
(05:04):
truth that for more and more of us, the dream
can be real. Vrative is often wrong and driven by
the wrong attitude. Owning a house, of course, only a house,
of course, early on has always been a battle, and
so it should be. I mean that way you value
it more. But getting there is real, and the numbers
now prove it, and the numbers show more and more
of us a part of the dream. It is not,
or has it ever been, as bad as the wowses
(05:27):
would make it out to be.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Look, if you are considering buying a home, can I
just warn you off? It's not always career about to be.
You're going to mow lawns. You're going to have discussions
that go on and on and on about what you're
going to do about the finish on the deck because
it's the wrong color and it's starting to peel. Stuff
like that, you know, just just have a think. And yes,
(05:51):
although we did cover a lot of the census stuff
last week, Mike had other bits of the sense of
stuff that he'd found as well. See what I mean,
this is what happens.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The stuff that came out of the censors. I don't
like the censors in this area. For example, a percentage
of people in a poor state of health has gone
up from fourteen point seven percent to nine ten point
two percent. What the hell does that mean? Are you
in a poor state of health? Yes? Or no? I mean,
who's to tell you you are? Or not you feel
you feel safe at home at night. That's gone down
from eighty six point seven percent to eighty point one percent.
(06:21):
What's that other than just something in your mind. That's
not a thing. It's not a stat I thought the
census was about, you know, how many people are mari,
how many people are not, how many people are male,
how many people are transferring themselves, or whatever it is.
You know their facts, they're numbers. Whether you feel safe
at home at night isn't a number, it's a vibe
(06:42):
a trust for other New Zealanders. Down from six point
eight out of ten to six point five out of ten.
I mean, that's just it's just random, made up bollocks.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't remember answering any questions on any of this stuff,
and I've stayed to wonder if I actually filled out
a census form at all. I remember I said last week,
I didn't go around the house with a piece of
A four paper to see if any of my mold
was bigger than the A four either. Does seem to
be getting into a weird sort of area that's more
opinion based than fact based. Does call into questions the
(07:14):
whole point of it. Anyway, The rewrap right. It's been
a real podcast of data today and we continue with
some more questionable data. If you ask me, have her
listened to what apparently thousands and thousands of airline passengers
had to say about Eddie's Island.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
In New Zealand. I'm very pleased to be able to
report this morning on the Condinace Traveler Reader's Choice Awards,
which I'm into reader's Choice or Listener's Choice or whatever
the case may be, because often you get handed out
awards by critics, and critics often haven't got the slightest
idea what they're doing, whereas at least the readers you
can't argue with. So five hundred and sent and Condinnasa
(07:53):
is a big deal international or condon nasty as somebody
I was watching a very good documentary. By the way
it's on, I can't remember. I should never say these
things because I don't know whatever everyone, But anyway, it's
called in Vogue the nineties. It's about Vogue magazine and
it's just brilliant. Anyway, somebody on it called it condnasty
and I thought, well, anyway, so they do these five
(08:14):
hundred and seventy five thousand condnasty. Readers from the UK
cast their votes based on their overall satisfaction on a
whole bunch of different categories. When it comes to airlines,
guess who the best airline in the world is In
New Zealand. Now a lot of you are going to
go and don't text me A lot of you going
to gay Has that possible? Well, this is what I'm saying,
(08:37):
Punters aren't wrong. Five hundred and seventy five thousand people
experience these airlines and will go ten through one because
it's my favorite game. Malaysian Airlines Swiss by way of
a score out of one hundred one hundred, you were perfect.
Malaysian came in at ten at eighty two point eighty
six Swiss International, followed by Delta, followed by Virgin Atlantic,
(08:58):
followed by Ettyard, British Airways, Emirates Cutter Singapore at second
eighty eight point four to seven Air New Zealand one
at eighty nine point eight best airline in the world.
When it comes to food, don't shake your head, Sam,
(09:19):
I know they're not as good as your mum sandwiches,
but they try. Tenth Delta Airlines score of eighty point
seveny one, Swiss International, Etyard, Virgin Malaysian Emirates, Cutter Singapore,
British Airways best airline in the world for food at
ninety one point one eight in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well that's just wrong. I'm shaking my head now.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Five hundred and seventy five thousand readers from Condon nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So they just not get out much. Those kind of nasties.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The punters are never wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Look, I haven't always been a hater of airline food
or a Vennye Zealand's airline food, but I've really been
quite appalled on the last few flights that I've been
on it about how discussing it is. Why is a
team salad always served with everything? As well? Those little
tiny little plastic balls, God, I hate them, and they're
(10:16):
always so freezing as well. I don't want a freezing
cold ten glass salad with every meal. Three rat I'm
going to calm down now and listen to what Mike
has to say about something that's that they've banned in California.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Gavin Newsom, who runs California, he just signed off last
week a bill that bans the use of red dye
Number forty and a whole bunch of other crap that's
in food. It's in ice creams and drinks and candy
and all that sort of stuff. It's the California School
Food Safety Act Assembly Bill two three one six prohibits
a school district, county superintendent of schools or charter schools
(10:53):
with grades kindergarten through twelfth from offering foods or beverages
containing red dye number forty, yellow dye number five and six,
blue dyes number one and two, green dye number three.
And this is the sort of thing you find in Cheetos, Derito's, Skittles,
M and M's star Bursts, Gatorade, mountain dew. I don't
(11:17):
think we have cap'n Crunch here? Do we have cap'n Crunch?
I don't think we have cap'n crunch and ruffles. So,
in other words, if you look at a piece of food,
first of all, if it's highly processed and it's in
a bag, you want to avoid it. If it's highly colored,
just as small tip, it didn't naturally get ground blue.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's it for red vines, though, isn't it. I think
they've got that dyeing them. Who red vines?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't know what red vines are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You don't know what red vines, well, you need to
score yourself up on some American candy.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
There will they grown red? I don't think they were
grown red? Were they anyway?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Gavin's banned them, of course, there'd be many of people
complaining that. Yeah, because he's a Democrat. That's why he's
been read California and the other people. That's because I
think they banned red forty and Canada ages ago, and
they have red vines there as well, but they somehow
(12:13):
made them something different, and people of course say that
they're not the same as the American ones. We'd rather
poison ourselves because they make red forty. They used to
make it out of coal, but now it's derived from petroleum.
So you definitely want that in you licorice, don't you.
I am a glen Hart that was the rerap, not
(12:33):
as hungry as I often am it. At the end
of the podcast, I've got to say we'll see you
back here again tomorrow with more stuff that's been been
forward with, maybe even including.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The podcast for more from news Talk said b listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk S ed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best buts from the Mic Hosking breakfast on News
Talks ed B and a sillier package. I Am Glen
Heart and news. Mike is back from is a week away.
He wants to talk home ownership. He's been pouring over
the census data from last week as well, so he's
got a few views on that. Some surprising results in
(00:49):
an air news well not only a New Zealand survey,
a survey of airline passengers and how they ranked Air
New Zealand. And then we're going to finish up with
something that's been banned in California before any of that
government spending. We're really putting the brakes on this. Are
we we are? Are we we are?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So here's the writer, by the way, on the Dunedin
hospital scrap which seems to be going on and on.
If the accusation proves to be correct, i e. The
final bill isn't three billion or anywhere close to it,
then the government had been caught in some kind of
price war scam. But if it's three billion dollars plus
and I suspect it might be, then as angry as
locals are, and they're going to be right to be disappointed,
if not a bit angry. Then at some point we've
(01:32):
got to face up to the fact that you can't
simply go round building stuff no matter what it costs. Now,
the fact the bill when from one point four billion
to one point seven is a small indicator of basically
what happens to most infrastructure in this country. If it
isn't priced right, it's going to blow out. Does Dunedin
deserve a new hospital, Well, of course you do. But
for all the protesting, surely someone has asked at what cost?
(01:54):
Is their answer? At any cost? And how if it
is their answer, does that make any sense at all? Equally,
this Mari language course that was fingered as a waste,
for all the handwringing and the million that Mari nonsense
that we're hearing about it, it's a issue. It's not
about picking on Maori. It's picking on waste, and we
should all be picking on waste. One hundred million dollars
that wasn't working, wasn't effective, what's the point for goodness sake,
(02:18):
people who don't enroll, people who did enroll but didn't finish,
no real metrics around success or otherwise. We don't have
hundreds of millions to throw it stuff, and it's essentially
money down the duney. Does anyone who exercises themselves over
these things ever ask a sensible question or two? Is
it value? What are we getting for the expenditure? Do
we actually have the money in the first place? It
(02:38):
seems there's the smallest group of New Zealanders who operate
on a level of selfishness. We want a hospital who
cares what it costs and who cares of others, don't
get facilities because of it. As long as we get
what we want, who cares of half the crowd, don't
show up for the language courses, who cares of half
leave early. As long as it's there and as long
as it looks good, that's all that counts. If that's
(03:00):
the attitude, it's basically the attitude. It seems you're break.
But then it's easy, isn't it when it's other people's money.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, you can't swing too far the other way, of course,
we just have to be careful that we don't just
end up canning everything, scrapping everything and not having anything
as well. I mean, that's definitely cheap. Resident they have nothing,
so we wrap right. So the thing that always bothers
(03:27):
me about when Mike his time off is that he
sits around, you know, collating data, looking at things. Some
of those things might be things we've even already talked
about on the program. And then there are other things
like this.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I'll tell you what. Possibly my favorite stat from the
census last week was home ownership is up. Who would
have thought, well, those of us that follow the facts
would have thought that. But the commentary around housing, sadly
these days, are dictated to us by pressure groups whose
best interests to serve by telling us how broke we
all are, and are bettered by a media who sadly
don't ask a lot of questions anymore, and more often
(04:01):
than not simply parrot whatever the press release of the
day says. And so the messages were traded as one
of being unable to participate. We can't afford a house.
Housing is too expensive, Owning a home is increasingly a
cruel dream. Well, it's not true. The other stat I
often mentioned as first home bias throughout the past few years,
(04:21):
as housing costs have risen and access to money from
banks has become problematic. How many times have we heard
that so called young people have been locked out of
the market. Once again, I'm happy to report simply not true.
Percentage has remained amazingly static about twenty six twenty seven percent,
Over a quarter of all sales are to first timers,
and now the census tells us the ownership rate in
(04:42):
this country is on the up. It's important for a
couple of reasons. One because hopefully it will impart silence
the naysayers, and two, in silencing them, remind us all
of the role that housing plays in this country. Psyche,
we love houses, rightly or wrongly. Most of us are
spire who own them. They are shelter, the replace of
pride and joy. There are mechanism for savings, of course,
and what the new stats remind us of is the
(05:04):
truth that for more and more of us, the dream
can be real. Vrative is often wrong and driven by
the wrong attitude. Owning a house, of course, only a house,
of course, early on has always been a battle, and
so it should be. I mean that way you value
it more. But getting there is real, and the numbers
now prove it, and the numbers show more and more
of us a part of the dream. It is not,
or has it ever been, as bad as the wowses
(05:27):
would make it out to be.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Look, if you are considering buying a home, can I
just warn you off? It's not always career about to be.
You're going to mow lawns. You're going to have discussions
that go on and on and on about what you're
going to do about the finish on the deck because
it's the wrong color and it's starting to peel. Stuff
like that, you know, just just have a think. And yes,
(05:51):
although we did cover a lot of the census stuff
last week, Mike had other bits of the sense of
stuff that he'd found as well. See what I mean,
this is what happens.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The stuff that came out of the censors. I don't
like the censors in this area. For example, a percentage
of people in a poor state of health has gone
up from fourteen point seven percent to nine ten point
two percent. What the hell does that mean? Are you
in a poor state of health? Yes? Or no? I mean,
who's to tell you you are? Or not you feel
you feel safe at home at night. That's gone down
from eighty six point seven percent to eighty point one percent.
(06:21):
What's that other than just something in your mind. That's
not a thing. It's not a stat I thought the
census was about, you know, how many people are mari,
how many people are not, how many people are male,
how many people are transferring themselves, or whatever it is.
You know their facts, they're numbers. Whether you feel safe
at home at night isn't a number, it's a vibe
(06:42):
a trust for other New Zealanders. Down from six point
eight out of ten to six point five out of ten.
I mean, that's just it's just random, made up bollocks.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't remember answering any questions on any of this stuff,
and I've stayed to wonder if I actually filled out
a census form at all. I remember I said last week,
I didn't go around the house with a piece of
A four paper to see if any of my mold
was bigger than the A four either. Does seem to
be getting into a weird sort of area that's more
opinion based than fact based. Does call into questions the
(07:14):
whole point of it. Anyway, The rewrap right. It's been
a real podcast of data today and we continue with
some more questionable data. If you ask me, have her
listened to what apparently thousands and thousands of airline passengers
had to say about Eddie's Island.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
In New Zealand. I'm very pleased to be able to
report this morning on the Condinace Traveler Reader's Choice Awards,
which I'm into reader's Choice or Listener's Choice or whatever
the case may be, because often you get handed out
awards by critics, and critics often haven't got the slightest
idea what they're doing, whereas at least the readers you
can't argue with. So five hundred and sent and Condinnasa
(07:53):
is a big deal international or condon nasty as somebody
I was watching a very good documentary. By the way
it's on, I can't remember. I should never say these
things because I don't know whatever everyone, But anyway, it's
called in Vogue the nineties. It's about Vogue magazine and
it's just brilliant. Anyway, somebody on it called it condnasty
and I thought, well, anyway, so they do these five
(08:14):
hundred and seventy five thousand condnasty. Readers from the UK
cast their votes based on their overall satisfaction on a
whole bunch of different categories. When it comes to airlines,
guess who the best airline in the world is In
New Zealand. Now a lot of you are going to
go and don't text me A lot of you going
to gay Has that possible? Well, this is what I'm saying,
(08:37):
Punters aren't wrong. Five hundred and seventy five thousand people
experience these airlines and will go ten through one because
it's my favorite game. Malaysian Airlines Swiss by way of
a score out of one hundred one hundred, you were perfect.
Malaysian came in at ten at eighty two point eighty
six Swiss International, followed by Delta, followed by Virgin Atlantic,
(08:58):
followed by Ettyard, British Airways, Emirates Cutter Singapore at second
eighty eight point four to seven Air New Zealand one
at eighty nine point eight best airline in the world.
When it comes to food, don't shake your head, Sam,
(09:19):
I know they're not as good as your mum sandwiches,
but they try. Tenth Delta Airlines score of eighty point
seveny one, Swiss International, Etyard, Virgin Malaysian Emirates, Cutter Singapore,
British Airways best airline in the world for food at
ninety one point one eight in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well that's just wrong. I'm shaking my head now.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Five hundred and seventy five thousand readers from Condon nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So they just not get out much. Those kind of nasties.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The punters are never wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Look, I haven't always been a hater of airline food
or a Vennye Zealand's airline food, but I've really been
quite appalled on the last few flights that I've been
on it about how discussing it is. Why is a
team salad always served with everything? As well? Those little
tiny little plastic balls, God, I hate them, and they're
(10:16):
always so freezing as well. I don't want a freezing
cold ten glass salad with every meal. Three rat I'm
going to calm down now and listen to what Mike
has to say about something that's that they've banned in California.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Gavin Newsom, who runs California, he just signed off last
week a bill that bans the use of red dye
Number forty and a whole bunch of other crap that's
in food. It's in ice creams and drinks and candy
and all that sort of stuff. It's the California School
Food Safety Act Assembly Bill two three one six prohibits
a school district, county superintendent of schools or charter schools
(10:53):
with grades kindergarten through twelfth from offering foods or beverages
containing red dye number forty, yellow dye number five and six,
blue dyes number one and two, green dye number three.
And this is the sort of thing you find in Cheetos, Derito's, Skittles,
M and M's star Bursts, Gatorade, mountain dew. I don't
(11:17):
think we have cap'n Crunch here? Do we have cap'n Crunch?
I don't think we have cap'n crunch and ruffles. So,
in other words, if you look at a piece of food,
first of all, if it's highly processed and it's in
a bag, you want to avoid it. If it's highly colored,
just as small tip, it didn't naturally get ground blue.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's it for red vines, though, isn't it. I think
they've got that dyeing them. Who red vines?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't know what red vines are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You don't know what red vines, well, you need to
score yourself up on some American candy.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
There will they grown red? I don't think they were
grown red? Were they anyway?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Gavin's banned them, of course, there'd be many of people
complaining that. Yeah, because he's a Democrat. That's why he's
been read California and the other people. That's because I
think they banned red forty and Canada ages ago, and
they have red vines there as well, but they somehow
(12:13):
made them something different, and people of course say that
they're not the same as the American ones. We'd rather
poison ourselves because they make red forty. They used to
make it out of coal, but now it's derived from petroleum.
So you definitely want that in you licorice, don't you.
I am a glen Hart that was the rerap, not
(12:33):
as hungry as I often am it. At the end
of the podcast, I've got to say we'll see you
back here again tomorrow with more stuff that's been been
forward with, maybe even including.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The podcast for more from news Talk said b listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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