October 23, 2024 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Even If No-one Still Wants to Hear It/Still BRIC-ing It, After All These Years/Outcomes? Anybody?/Conflicted By Marriage/Ratings Are Relative
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from Newstalk SEDB. Follow this
and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap. Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All
the best, but it's from the mic asking breakfast on
news talks. He'd be in a sillier package. I am
Glen Hart and today working at internationally, you'll quind out
willing and surely the public service, where's the accountability?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Is it coming? Conflicts of interest? Do they still apply
by marriage?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And we'll have a look at the latest TV three ratings.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But before any of.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That, nuclear power, is it time to have a mature,
grown up conversation about nuclear power?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, I've got some simple questions around our attitude to
nuclear for you, and whether we are capable of becoming
slightly more mature about all of this. So this country
got sumi famous for its anti nuclear stance. Of course
we were well, we're still anti nuclear, but we got
famous a lifetime ago. But the world has changed. It
has moved on. Amazon and Google as well as Oracle
are building their own nuclear reactors these days, and of
(01:19):
the not building their own reactors, they are buying nuclear
deals with places like three Mile Island, which also a
lifetime ago, made headlines around the world. They need nuclear
to run data centers. Data centers need astonishing amounts of power.
New Zealand wants to host data centers. Can New Zealand
be a data center hub given the power system we
now run?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Ironically, just yesterday Genesis announced they'll be buying more coal
for next winter to cover the gap, the ongoing gap
that's not for data centers, by the way, that's to
turn the lights on on a cold morning. This country,
as we found out this winter, can't handle cold mornings,
far less data centers, and nothing's changing between now and
next winter. Factor in evs if you want, and we
return to the ongoing but unanswered question, just what is it?
(02:02):
We're going to run the country on hydros good, but
it's not reliable, and neither are any of the other
options we may or may not even get around producing
at scale wind solar batteries. Nuclear is the only reliable
and by the way, it's good for the environment. So
we want to run data centers, we don't have enough power,
We're still burning more coal and the thing we hate,
(02:24):
nuclear is a viable option and being picked up and
run with around the rest of the world. Are we
to be left behind? Or are we to grow up
and move forward? Now I'd like to think that answers itself.
But let's see, I.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Really do think that we can't just keep running from
the room screaming every time somebody says the in word,
I mean nuclear, that's the inward I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We wrap now.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Meanwhile, while the world is burning and dividing and flowing
up and all that stuff's going on, there's a bunch
of world leaders who are getting together and seem to
be having a great old time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Guess who they are.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
This week in Russia if you're not aware of it,
in the city of Kazan, the group is meeting, or
a group is meeting, then known as Bricks. It started
out Bricks Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, but
they have since added Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the UAE,
so they're growing and ahead of the meeting, Vladimir Putin
announced that it is this group that will be driving
(03:23):
global economic growth, not the rest of the world. I
e US and when you look at the rest of
the world, the Europeans are who whether you look at
them individually or collectively barely scrape above zero percent in
terms of growth at the moment. All the Americans much
better off than most, of course, but still not in
the league of the Chinese. And yes, you can argue
the Chinese aren't what they were, but at about five percent,
they outperformed the bulk of the planet's other countries. Ethiopia
(03:46):
has been growing at over seven percent, and India, of
course in many respects as the growth powerhouse of the world.
And at the same time, just this week, the IMF
has worn the world about a lack of growth because
of the increasing amount of debt. There would be more
growth if the money we were spending on interest payments
was put into facilities and services and infrastructure, and then
you get to the fracturing of the world generally. They
(04:07):
also pointed out to the IMF that there was an
increasing amount of looking inwards. The days of the free
and open trade flowing with anyone and everyone was getting
harder and harder, and not to mention more and more rare.
We currently have a scrap of courses, I'm sure you
well aware, with Canada over Derry, and that's a scrap
with a country we like and get on with and
we did a free trade deal with and it's a
(04:29):
pecocides sort of game these days. But the truth is
Putin's actually right. I mean, say whatever you want about
them or Russia or the war, the cold, hard truth
is trade and business continues. In fact, war is often
very good for business. India seem more than happy to
buy discounted oil from Russia. India does business with whoever
has the best deal. Bricks might once have been seen
(04:49):
as the old balls club, the outsiders club, the despots club,
the desperadoes club, forced together by global shame and the
shunning of the so called mainstream countries. And yet look
at them now, Look at their numbers, look at their prospects,
look at the fact that Putin is right.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You see.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The problem with adding countries like Ethiopia and UAE is
that's too many vowels. You can't keep adding vowel countries.
You've got to have some consonant countries in there. Bricks,
that's a good acronym works.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You ea, it's not. Come on, guys, think about us.
You know, logically, wrap back. You're a little New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
There's the government slowly managing to bring the public service
to heal and how far away from here are they?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Nikola Willis is giving a speech today in which she
will explain outcome contracts to the public service. She doesn't
need to explain that to the rest of us, because
of course that's generally how contracts are supposed to work,
but not in the public service. Apparently, in the public service,
contracts work on outputs. So in other words, if you
output something, if you just do something that apparently is enough,
what then happens to the money and the contract apparently
(05:57):
is not overly important. So she's talking about outcome contracts.
They will need to steal themselves to acts initiatives that
are no longer working for delivering value. She is also
the Social Investment Minister users and providers of social services.
This is where cost is going. He's going to be
your social services are. A common complaint is that there's
(06:20):
multiple overlapping contracts that they have with different agencies to
do the same thing, who do not seem to be
talking to each other, so no one talks to each other.
Yet they don't care what happens to the outcome because
they don't do outcomes. They only do outputs and you
wonder why we are where we are. Seems an extraordinary
thing that in twenty twenty four a finance minister, in
(06:41):
the circumstances in which we find ourselves should have to
make such a speech.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But there not sure if my contract is an outcome contract.
I think if I don't do the things and the contract,
then there will be outcomes. To be honest, I don't
think I do do a lot of the things in
the contract. And I've never really understood why it doesn't
just say don't do anything stupid. That's what I really say.
(07:08):
It shouldn't be about the things that I do. It
should be that in things I should not do. Maybe
I'll suggest that next time around, Or would that be
a dangerous thing to bring up the contract negotiations?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
To just leave it?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I can't just leave it the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And now I also can't remember whether I have to
declare any conflicts of interest in that. I don't think
I have any because I'm not really interested in anything.
But but yeah, certainly if I was married to somebody
who was interested in something, would that be a conflict.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I officially became sick and tired of the Andrew Bailey story. Yesterday,
lab we were trying to relook at litigated in question
time for a moment there, I won't bore you with
the details. For a moment there it looked like they
could potentially if you drew a long enough bow beyond
to something between the first, second and third transaction between
Bailey and the so called offended person. And it sort
(08:02):
of fell apart at that particular point. So I thought,
I am sick and tired of this, and we've got
more important things to think about. Then unfortunately, Winston Peter
stood up and he started accusing Ashavil of having some
relative by marriage, as a person by marriage really a relative.
So if you're talking about conflicts of interest, so if
you haven't followed the story, and it's probably not worth
following because anything is going anywhere, But it all goes
(08:23):
back to aishaviral and her business chasing around Casey Costello,
New Zealand First MP and the heated tobacco products and
the tax treatment and the two hundred million dollars. So anyway,
my suspicion is Peter's is trying to run interference by
accusing Verel of having a thus unnamed relative somewhere in
the public service that should have declared a conflict of
(08:46):
interest when it comes to dealing with paperwork on the
business of tobacco products, and they have not declared. Apparently
this particular conflict of interest, the Labour Party argues, because
the person so far removed from it, there's no point.
Part of their argument also, is New Zealand such a
small country. Everybody knows everybody, which is not technically true,
but it can be.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's like you can name a hotelco two degrees.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
This is very true, and then we can we come
to the person. So the person is a relative of
Viril's by marriage. Now my question is does that make
them a real relative?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And there's always a bit confusing, isn't it. So like
say your brother, yeah, is married, and then so that
woman is your sister in law.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Correct, But then what about if she's got a brother.
Who is that person to you? Nothing?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Apparently correct, even though you want to sort of say,
well he's kind of my brother in law.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well he's not kind of your brother in law. He's nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Is he related to you by marriage? Though?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Well then directly and hentilize the problem. The fact that
her relative is a person who was married to someone
makes it to me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean what I was asking is are you your
own grandfather's uncle? I think is what I was trying
to get.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It isn't everybody is the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Surely I'm my own grandpa. I think it was the song,
wasn't it? But I thought if I had it in
a few extra steps and it would be.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Mike doesn't laugh at my jokes very often, does he?
Can we blame them? I don't ever can blame them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
The rewrap.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
We're going to finish up with the ratings at TV three.
I'm sure they're going gang bustards after all their recent
chops and changes.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Reading yesterday that TV three Stuff's News on Sunday was
watched by twenty six thousand, three hundred people and the demo,
which I think is twenty five fifty four twenty six
thousand and three hundred people's nobody. I mean in this
program on hundreds of thousands of people listen, which is
not to spread this program. I'm just trying to give
you a comparison. TV one, which is their direct competitor,
(10:39):
had six times the number of viewers a fifty six share,
which means of all the people watching the television that
maybe got fifty six percent of the market to nine
when in their so called heyday, I'm reading news Hub
had a thirty share. Then when it all fell apart
and it fell apart completely in July they had a
twenty share and on Sunday they were down to nine.
(11:02):
So how long can that continue? The whole thing's very
very sad. Then they were talking about a program that
started seven o'clock on Sunday on TV three called on
the Latter, which is a sort of a housing program
a supported by Kiwi Bank. It had six thousand, four
hundred people. Six thousand, four hundred people. There would not
(11:23):
have been a less successful prime time launch in New
Zealand television history. Wrote the first. So it is a
it is a door old state of affairs. I'm here
to tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's about the audience of this podcast. I think probably
just guessing might didn't be more sure, it's more might,
definitely more.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wonder if I can get keem we Bank on.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Forward with this podcast anyway, Thank you for listening, You
and your five thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And nine, nine hundred and nine bug of that one up,
didn't I?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You and all your friends that have made this so
exponentially successful. Tell me to go and listen to news
Dogs they've been as well. Well do I'm sure that
that enjoy it just as much like you do. You know,
you like this one and you like news doorks it
being Get them to listen to newsborks it being as well.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It doesn't do quite as well as this one.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
For some reason, I've never figured out why it's essentially
the same podcast, except this list might it's about the
same amount of me, and that's really what it's all about. Right, Nope, Okay,
then I'm going then in that case, and I won't
be back up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'll see you there for more from News Talk sed B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from Newstalk SEDB. Follow this
and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap. Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All
the best, but it's from the mic asking breakfast on
news talks. He'd be in a sillier package. I am
Glen Hart and today working at internationally, you'll quind out
willing and surely the public service, where's the accountability?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Is it coming? Conflicts of interest? Do they still apply
by marriage?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And we'll have a look at the latest TV three ratings.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But before any of.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That, nuclear power, is it time to have a mature,
grown up conversation about nuclear power?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, I've got some simple questions around our attitude to
nuclear for you, and whether we are capable of becoming
slightly more mature about all of this. So this country
got sumi famous for its anti nuclear stance. Of course
we were well, we're still anti nuclear, but we got
famous a lifetime ago. But the world has changed. It
has moved on. Amazon and Google as well as Oracle
are building their own nuclear reactors these days, and of
(01:19):
the not building their own reactors, they are buying nuclear
deals with places like three Mile Island, which also a
lifetime ago, made headlines around the world. They need nuclear
to run data centers. Data centers need astonishing amounts of power.
New Zealand wants to host data centers. Can New Zealand
be a data center hub given the power system we
now run?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Ironically, just yesterday Genesis announced they'll be buying more coal
for next winter to cover the gap, the ongoing gap
that's not for data centers, by the way, that's to
turn the lights on on a cold morning. This country,
as we found out this winter, can't handle cold mornings,
far less data centers, and nothing's changing between now and
next winter. Factor in evs if you want, and we
return to the ongoing but unanswered question, just what is it?
(02:02):
We're going to run the country on hydros good, but
it's not reliable, and neither are any of the other
options we may or may not even get around producing
at scale wind solar batteries. Nuclear is the only reliable
and by the way, it's good for the environment. So
we want to run data centers, we don't have enough power,
We're still burning more coal and the thing we hate,
(02:24):
nuclear is a viable option and being picked up and
run with around the rest of the world. Are we
to be left behind? Or are we to grow up
and move forward? Now I'd like to think that answers itself.
But let's see, I.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Really do think that we can't just keep running from
the room screaming every time somebody says the in word,
I mean nuclear, that's the inward I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We wrap now.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Meanwhile, while the world is burning and dividing and flowing
up and all that stuff's going on, there's a bunch
of world leaders who are getting together and seem to
be having a great old time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Guess who they are.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
This week in Russia if you're not aware of it,
in the city of Kazan, the group is meeting, or
a group is meeting, then known as Bricks. It started
out Bricks Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, but
they have since added Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the UAE,
so they're growing and ahead of the meeting, Vladimir Putin
announced that it is this group that will be driving
(03:23):
global economic growth, not the rest of the world. I
e US and when you look at the rest of
the world, the Europeans are who whether you look at
them individually or collectively barely scrape above zero percent in
terms of growth at the moment. All the Americans much
better off than most, of course, but still not in
the league of the Chinese. And yes, you can argue
the Chinese aren't what they were, but at about five percent,
they outperformed the bulk of the planet's other countries. Ethiopia
(03:46):
has been growing at over seven percent, and India, of
course in many respects as the growth powerhouse of the world.
And at the same time, just this week, the IMF
has worn the world about a lack of growth because
of the increasing amount of debt. There would be more
growth if the money we were spending on interest payments
was put into facilities and services and infrastructure, and then
you get to the fracturing of the world generally. They
(04:07):
also pointed out to the IMF that there was an
increasing amount of looking inwards. The days of the free
and open trade flowing with anyone and everyone was getting
harder and harder, and not to mention more and more rare.
We currently have a scrap of courses, I'm sure you
well aware, with Canada over Derry, and that's a scrap
with a country we like and get on with and
we did a free trade deal with and it's a
(04:29):
pecocides sort of game these days. But the truth is
Putin's actually right. I mean, say whatever you want about
them or Russia or the war, the cold, hard truth
is trade and business continues. In fact, war is often
very good for business. India seem more than happy to
buy discounted oil from Russia. India does business with whoever
has the best deal. Bricks might once have been seen
(04:49):
as the old balls club, the outsiders club, the despots club,
the desperadoes club, forced together by global shame and the
shunning of the so called mainstream countries. And yet look
at them now, Look at their numbers, look at their prospects,
look at the fact that Putin is right.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You see.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The problem with adding countries like Ethiopia and UAE is
that's too many vowels. You can't keep adding vowel countries.
You've got to have some consonant countries in there. Bricks,
that's a good acronym works.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You ea, it's not. Come on, guys, think about us.
You know, logically, wrap back. You're a little New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
There's the government slowly managing to bring the public service
to heal and how far away from here are they?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Nikola Willis is giving a speech today in which she
will explain outcome contracts to the public service. She doesn't
need to explain that to the rest of us, because
of course that's generally how contracts are supposed to work,
but not in the public service. Apparently, in the public service,
contracts work on outputs. So in other words, if you
output something, if you just do something that apparently is enough,
what then happens to the money and the contract apparently
(05:57):
is not overly important. So she's talking about outcome contracts.
They will need to steal themselves to acts initiatives that
are no longer working for delivering value. She is also
the Social Investment Minister users and providers of social services.
This is where cost is going. He's going to be
your social services are. A common complaint is that there's
(06:20):
multiple overlapping contracts that they have with different agencies to
do the same thing, who do not seem to be
talking to each other, so no one talks to each other.
Yet they don't care what happens to the outcome because
they don't do outcomes. They only do outputs and you
wonder why we are where we are. Seems an extraordinary
thing that in twenty twenty four a finance minister, in
(06:41):
the circumstances in which we find ourselves should have to
make such a speech.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But there not sure if my contract is an outcome contract.
I think if I don't do the things and the contract,
then there will be outcomes. To be honest, I don't
think I do do a lot of the things in
the contract. And I've never really understood why it doesn't
just say don't do anything stupid. That's what I really say.
(07:08):
It shouldn't be about the things that I do. It
should be that in things I should not do. Maybe
I'll suggest that next time around, Or would that be
a dangerous thing to bring up the contract negotiations?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
To just leave it?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I can't just leave it the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And now I also can't remember whether I have to
declare any conflicts of interest in that. I don't think
I have any because I'm not really interested in anything.
But but yeah, certainly if I was married to somebody
who was interested in something, would that be a conflict.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I officially became sick and tired of the Andrew Bailey story. Yesterday,
lab we were trying to relook at litigated in question
time for a moment there, I won't bore you with
the details. For a moment there it looked like they
could potentially if you drew a long enough bow beyond
to something between the first, second and third transaction between
Bailey and the so called offended person. And it sort
(08:02):
of fell apart at that particular point. So I thought,
I am sick and tired of this, and we've got
more important things to think about. Then unfortunately, Winston Peter
stood up and he started accusing Ashavil of having some
relative by marriage, as a person by marriage really a relative.
So if you're talking about conflicts of interest, so if
you haven't followed the story, and it's probably not worth
following because anything is going anywhere, But it all goes
(08:23):
back to aishaviral and her business chasing around Casey Costello,
New Zealand First MP and the heated tobacco products and
the tax treatment and the two hundred million dollars. So anyway,
my suspicion is Peter's is trying to run interference by
accusing Verel of having a thus unnamed relative somewhere in
the public service that should have declared a conflict of
(08:46):
interest when it comes to dealing with paperwork on the
business of tobacco products, and they have not declared. Apparently
this particular conflict of interest, the Labour Party argues, because
the person so far removed from it, there's no point.
Part of their argument also, is New Zealand such a
small country. Everybody knows everybody, which is not technically true,
but it can be.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's like you can name a hotelco two degrees.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
This is very true, and then we can we come
to the person. So the person is a relative of
Viril's by marriage. Now my question is does that make
them a real relative?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And there's always a bit confusing, isn't it. So like
say your brother, yeah, is married, and then so that
woman is your sister in law.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Correct, But then what about if she's got a brother.
Who is that person to you? Nothing?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Apparently correct, even though you want to sort of say,
well he's kind of my brother in law.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well he's not kind of your brother in law. He's nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Is he related to you by marriage? Though?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Well then directly and hentilize the problem. The fact that
her relative is a person who was married to someone
makes it to me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean what I was asking is are you your
own grandfather's uncle? I think is what I was trying
to get.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It isn't everybody is the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Surely I'm my own grandpa. I think it was the song,
wasn't it? But I thought if I had it in
a few extra steps and it would be.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Mike doesn't laugh at my jokes very often, does he?
Can we blame them? I don't ever can blame them.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
The rewrap.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
We're going to finish up with the ratings at TV three.
I'm sure they're going gang bustards after all their recent
chops and changes.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Reading yesterday that TV three Stuff's News on Sunday was
watched by twenty six thousand, three hundred people and the demo,
which I think is twenty five fifty four twenty six
thousand and three hundred people's nobody. I mean in this
program on hundreds of thousands of people listen, which is
not to spread this program. I'm just trying to give
you a comparison. TV one, which is their direct competitor,
(10:39):
had six times the number of viewers a fifty six share,
which means of all the people watching the television that
maybe got fifty six percent of the market to nine
when in their so called heyday, I'm reading news Hub
had a thirty share. Then when it all fell apart
and it fell apart completely in July they had a
twenty share and on Sunday they were down to nine.
(11:02):
So how long can that continue? The whole thing's very
very sad. Then they were talking about a program that
started seven o'clock on Sunday on TV three called on
the Latter, which is a sort of a housing program
a supported by Kiwi Bank. It had six thousand, four
hundred people. Six thousand, four hundred people. There would not
(11:23):
have been a less successful prime time launch in New
Zealand television history. Wrote the first. So it is a
it is a door old state of affairs. I'm here
to tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's about the audience of this podcast. I think probably
just guessing might didn't be more sure, it's more might,
definitely more.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wonder if I can get keem we Bank on.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Forward with this podcast anyway, Thank you for listening, You
and your five thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And nine, nine hundred and nine bug of that one up,
didn't I?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You and all your friends that have made this so
exponentially successful. Tell me to go and listen to news
Dogs they've been as well. Well do I'm sure that
that enjoy it just as much like you do. You know,
you like this one and you like news doorks it
being Get them to listen to newsborks it being as well.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It doesn't do quite as well as this one.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
For some reason, I've never figured out why it's essentially
the same podcast, except this list might it's about the
same amount of me, and that's really what it's all about. Right, Nope, Okay,
then I'm going then in that case, and I won't
be back up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'll see you there for more from News Talk sed B.
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