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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
There and welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All the
best bets from the mic asking breakfast on Newstalk, said B.
In a cilier package, I am being hard today. The
Treaty Principles bill. Have you heard of it? Anyway, we'll
have some more on that. How much does the speak
camera cost to run the latest Black Friday specials for you?
But before any of that, Oh yes, the hackoi. How wonderful,

(00:49):
What a wonderful demonstration at democracy.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Shall we get into the business of the numbers yesterday?
I mean a lot of you interested in that, the
people walking across the Harbor Bridge. First of all, my
concerned about the media coverage of this. It's not it
is a circus, but it's not a circus. It's not
a traveling festival to be covered. It's day one, Day two,
day three. Is the media coverage it's it's it's not
a telethon. It's just a protest, and the protest started.
It will eventually reach its conclusion after day whatever it is,

(01:15):
and nothing particularly will happen. A large group will gather
in the Parliament grounds and they'll cover that, and that's fine.
There's another wrong with covering it, but it's taken on
a festival type dynamic, which yet again does not serve
the New Zealand media.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, yeah, I've already talked about my personal interaction with
this procession yesterday on my other very successful podcast, news
Dog Zed been If you're not subscribed, what are you
waiting for? It's just like this, except that it's got
less Mike Asking and more of our other hosts in it.

(01:49):
But yes, I happen to be on the bridge driving
the opposite direction too that he called yesterday as it
was coming across and its waves, And yeah, I eventually
I did feel rage, And eventually I realized that my
rage was actually directed more to the people filming it

(02:10):
and covering it than it was to the actual people
doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
The rewrap.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But should schools be allowed off to do it? Though?
That's a good question, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Regards to the protest in Wellington, We've got the South
Wellington Intermediate School writing to parents saying the board and
school support the hiccoy. What possible connection is there? Between
a school and a protest that they feel that they've
got the right to go. We as a school and
a board support it. If you intend to go to

(02:40):
the Hiccoy with your children, please let the school know
their absence will be recorded as justified. It gets worse.
The nine Nigh Primary School. We have decided that we
will attend as a school Tuesday, nineteenth of November. This
cold Papa will be history making? In what way have

(03:06):
they never seen a protest before? Is the first protest?
What is the outworking of this protest that will be
different from any other protest on any given day. People
have walked from point A to point B, driven a
lot of it. But for the cameras walked from point
A to point B, they get to point B, they go,
we are here to fill in the blanks and then
they will go home. In what way is that history making?

(03:28):
What will occur as a direct result of that protest?
Answer obviously is nothing, So how is it history making?
The whole school will travel by train, good luck with
that from nine I train station to Wellington. Permission slips
will be acceptable on the accessible rather accessible on the
school loop. Ap get your flags, voices and walking shoes ready,

(03:55):
and you wonder why we've got problems. David Seymour, who's
been thrashed about the place with us watch them in
the house yesterday, is defending himself. Well, but my god,
it must be hard work at the moment he says
students will be disad is by missing valuable learning time.
It's sort of not really quite as strong as he
should be. What he should be doing is make it
fast strong a statement than that. But nevertheless, that's the

(04:15):
sort of pushback you're getting. This will be history making
when you're brainwashed and misled to that extent. What hope
our next generation?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh? Is he still holding out hope for the next generation?
That seems like a waste of energy. Certainly, social media
seems to be a wash with prohithoic content at the moment,
and it's certainly having an effect on the conversations of

(04:46):
my household, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Rewrap.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
When I then go on to ask the people in
my household if they know anything about the Treaty Principles bill.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Less forthcoming Treaty Principles bill that gets debated today, then
if it goes to the committee, that will hear a
lot of fearmongering and winging about how it's the end
of the world. And after that it will come back
to Parliament, a vote will be had, it won't get
the numbers, it'll be dead. This is unusual. Governments normally
put bills in they know are going to pass. And
so here is why it ties into Trump's victory last week.

(05:17):
Trump won because he is the repository for grievance. If
you don't like the left, you vote for what's not
the left, because you've only got a choice of two.
Under MMP, you got more choices. We've taken a lot
of time to work that out, but as MMP matures,
we are reaching a place where more parties will establish
themselves as ongoing contributors to the system, as opposed to

(05:38):
being seen as fringe and on the verge of survival.
Especially helpful will be this government if it performs well
as a group, gets re elected and possibly goes for
a third term, it will show three parties can coalesce,
agree to disagree while remaining separate and independent. The Greens
have already arrived at this place, of course. They are
a permanent fixture on the landscape. They don't dabble with

(05:58):
the five percent margins anymore. The point here is as
a result, the big parties will shed support. The days
of national being forty five ish percent that gone because
parties like Acting New Zealand first look to head towards
ten percent of not more. The Treaty Bill might well
be acts ride to permanence, the same way that Trump
hoovered up Blacks and Hispanics who are sick of being

(06:19):
treated like a block and not individuals. ACT could hoover
up New Zealanders sick of raced based policy if NATS
the NATS don't or won't deal with it, ACT can
in an MMP environment, Trump would not have stood a chance,
of course, but their system is less sophisticated than ours.
Choice is good. It gets over represented though in jurisdictions
where the threshold is too low because you end up

(06:41):
with single issue nutters. But at about five percent it
looks like we've picked it right. You can be small
without being too fringe. Hopefully, Act in New Zealand first
break the MMP who do where small parties vanish in
government because there are enough specific issues and enough electoral
confidence far parties to state claims and build support big
parties no longer have to be everything to everyone. If

(07:02):
this is an emerging trend, MMP proper will have arrived
and we will be all the better for it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
So we're going to have a future of the major
party supporting the minor parties up to a point and
then saying ha ha, just joking. That sounds very good.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
The re wrap all.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right, Who doesn't love speed cameras? At least they can't
cost much to run, I suppose once they're up cameras.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Speaking of infrastructure, they did have a plan to have
eight hundred cameras speed cameras on our state highway network.
They've cut that back to two hundred and fifty. The
eight hundred was going to cost two and a half
billion dollars, which struck us as an astonishing amount of
money for cameras. You get a camera, you tap it
onto a lamp post. Bob's your uncle right wrong. So

(07:47):
they've cut it back and they think it'll come down
bill wise to one point sixty seven seven billion dollars,
which still we've worked it out to be two hundred
and fifty cameras over twenty years one point six billion dollars.
We've worked it out to be three hundred thousand dollars
a year for a camera. Three hundred thousand dollars a
year per camera. What's the camera doing? It's doing thing.

(08:09):
I mean you might have to come along with a
cloth and wipe the lens periodically. You might have a
sort of a maintenance program, you have to scramble up
a ladder or something. I don't know, but three hundred
thousand dollars a year for each and every camera. There's
something not right about those number.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, if you know anything about cameras and optical
glass generally, you know you've got to have a really
flash cloth and a very specific kind of stuff to
spray on it because you can't just use normal solvents.
So you know that stuff doesn't come cheap. Three wrap
You probably pick them up in the Black Friday sales actually,
so it's a bit confusing. I feel like some places

(08:46):
have been doing Black Friday for ages. Some haven't. Ye
bet they're previewing it.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
When is it right? Black Friday price may have done
the work. Over half of us are expected to take part,
over half fifty one percent competed with thirty five percent
last year. That's a loss, isn't it. Forty eight percent
are relying on Black Friday sales to buy or replace
something for the home. Fifty one percent relying on the
sales to afford Christmas. Half of us buy treats for ourselves.

(09:11):
Eighteen to twenty four year olds, they're in like a
robber's dog. Seventy two percent of them are taking part.
Average New Zealand is going to spend around six hundred dollars.
How's that breakdownlets The bloke says always spending more money
seven hundred and seventy dollars compared with the women at
four hundred and sixty. Although I'm suspicious that that. Women
always say I know I won't spend much this year.
I no, no, no, nothing for me, and then that's

(09:33):
not true. Tech and electronics thirty eight percent, Fashion and
clothing thirty five. Household appliants is twenty five. The advice
is still the same, it's not worth getting into debt
because a lot of them plan to buy now, pay later.
Twenty eight percent plan to use a credit card or
overdraft twenty two percent. Actually, God been saved up for it, Josh,
like I got old age.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Out of all those stats. I like that the average
New Zealand is going to spend about six hundred dollars.
That means if I buy anything less than six hundred dollars,
I can then turn around and go, hey, it's less
than average. Sounds I think that sounds good. I'm going
to use that. I'm going to say. Mike Hoskin wrote

(10:16):
me a note I am, you can get a pretty
good monitor for under six hundred dollars. That's what I'm
in the market for R at the moment. I am
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