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September 18, 2025 • 14 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) So Why Keep Going On About It/What Have Unions Ever Done for Me?/Mark the Week/Peachageddon

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rep There, welcome to the rewrap for Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
All the best, but's from the Mic Hosking breakfast on
news Talk, said, be in a sillier package, I am
Brian Heart and today unions strikingly strike strike. The strike
season as well underway, and I think some of us
are over them. To be honest, we'll mark the week
because look at that, it's Friday, and that is what

(00:48):
we do. And then we'll finish up with some more
Peter Geddon talk. But before any of that, yes, so
the GDP was even horrible, and we thought it was
going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
So, you know, same old blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
In fact, we're blaming the same old people again and
again and again. Eventually, yes, we have to blame somebody else,
but for now.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Well, was this the final nail in the your coffin?
I mean, can we add hawksby and the entire Monetary
Policy Committee? After all, easy to blame a governor, but
it's the committee that votes on what to do with
the cash rate. And after the famed Q two finished,
remember April May and June. We came to the next
committee decision in July. Or's gone, Hawksby's up, and they've
just witnessed the previous three months, and what do they do? Nothing?

(01:33):
No change? They held why are because they felt things
were in hand. They also said the economy would contract
zero point three percent. Yesterday came the proof that it's
hard when you're actually paid as a so called expert
to get it more wrong than they have. We all
felt it, we all knew it, and true, most of
us would not have been able to put a number
around it like the banks have, but then again, most
of us don't have the data they've got access to.

(01:54):
But what we all knew was it was bad. It
was tight, it was ugly, It wasn't going in the
right direction. But the gap between zero point three and
zero point nine is inexcusable, the same way it's inexcusable
to stand there in July and tell us more stimulus
wasn't need it. At some point, someone's got to be
held to account. Yes, Or is gone, but only because
he packed a sad Yes quickly's gone, but only because

(02:16):
he got found out. No one has actually been held
to account for spectacular failure. To do the job. Why
are the Minetary Policy Committee members still in work? How
many of them are there because of their so called
expertise versus being appointed for the so called right reasons.
Results count, facts matter. And here's the issue for the government.
As the poll showed us this week, a lot of

(02:37):
New Zealanders blame this government for the economy. But they've
been let down in no small part by the Reserve Bank.
And when the Prime Minister the other week on this
program fired off a little bit of advice all the
point he had started writing op eds whining about independence.
Independence is fine, but not of year useless.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I demand the right to be independently useless, I think,
and I think of achieving it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Actually it's the rewrap.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So anyway, whoever's faulted, is everybody's going to opinion? I
actually don't because I don't care about the economy. I've
made this perfectly clear. I've gotten charge with the money
in my house.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
The load in the economy, Mike, GDP per capita is
more important metric. I agree. Since the last election Nationals
presided over four negative quarters in the last six they
have no clue how to stimulate the economy. Chris. Is
it the government's job to stimulate the economy or is
it the government's job to provide the environment in which
you can go out and stimulate your own economy. And

(03:37):
in that delineation lies the political ideology that we battle
with and will do next year. Mike, the problem with
the RBS, the Cocund and Wellington bingo. How many times
on this program I said exactly that you can have
all the spreadsheets in the world you want if you're
stuck on number one or number two the terrace and
you never get out into the real world, and you
don't go to the cafe for your sandwiches because of

(03:58):
some woman around the corner where the trolley brings them
into your room with your whiteboard and your blue skying,
and you didn't have that many good qualifications in the
first place. That's where you misread an economy. Mike, I
appreciate your comment. Roger Douglas came and facing and I
said this to Ryan before, and you've got to have
been there at the time. But anyone who was there
in eighty four saw what Douglas did, and he blew
the place up, and he blew the place up because

(04:20):
it needed blowing up, and the argument is short or
sharp or longer and blunter. I mean, basically, at the
end of the day, you could argue, we're going to
get there, and we will. I mean, Q three is
going to be better. Q four might even be better. Still,
God knows, in twenty twenty six, it might all come
right and we'll all look back and go Phu'll think, oh,
we got through that. But this is dragged on longer

(04:40):
than it needed to, and the numbers tell us this.
Your point in the text being that Douglas was under
FPP not MMP. Could you do the same thing, it's
a fair point. You probably can't.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Just on the idea of forcing the Reserve bank governors
out into the real world. Is Mike sort of suggesting
a like a billeting system. You know, you've got to
go to have lock North and be billeted out. I
was billeted out and have lock North once. Let's score
music to Little Boy Man. That turned out badly. Not

(05:13):
their fault. I went to a party and got very drunk.
So yes, but that's Actien history. We don't need to
talk about that, right, So yes, strike season well underway
teachers and now potentially nurses and other medical specialists joining

(05:33):
the fray.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Unions.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
A you gotta love them, morning, Mike. I like that
you called out the doctor's union over the strike. Well done.
Look come between a rock and a hard place when
it comes to the medical professionals and the teachers. We
all love teachers, we all love nurses, we all love doctors.
But when you've got no money and you're always short,
I mean, tell me a time. Just go find me
a time and a date. If you can find me
a unionist anytime in the last forty five years that

(05:57):
I've been and broadcast, and go find me a unionist.
Bring me the comment where the unionist said publicly, I
tell you what things are going pretty well. I'll tell
you what my representatives at the moment, my doctors, my nurses,
they're enjoying life. They're ruining about what they should be earning.
We're not overly sure of people. At the moment, things
in our sector are going pretty well. Go find me
a unionist that ever said that, and I'll give you
a thousand bucks.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, must be.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Very unfulfilling actually being a union representative too, Like your
work's never done, is it? Because even if you do
end up getting something close to what you were looking for,
which it never will be because you were start high,
because that's the negotiating tector. As soon as you get that,
then you had to start thinking about next year, don't you.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Hate?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I had a job that can never be finished rewrap.
Not like Mark the Week. It starts on Friday, ends
on Friday. And although today I got a little bit
ambitious and all the wheels fell off.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Time down to Mark the Week seven twenty three. By
the way, little piece of news and Carol vents it's
as popular as a whole bunch of horses, some shiny
brass and a carriage ride for an old egotist from Washington.
Farmer Confidence eight, Economic World of Woe. I'm good to
see you do, some chunk of people doing well and
enjoying it. Women, sex, ladies. What's the problem the consumer

(07:19):
confidence numbers? Men are almost optimistic at the moment, on
the verge of actually being positive. That's men, that's us.
The women and the doldrums. What's going on? GDP two.
Probably what's going on? Shopping for the butter? Is that sexist?
That's probably sexist? Sort of the turgid. Really I mean
that numb yesterday sort of the turgid rank icing on

(07:39):
the rotten economic cake. I mean, how does a reserve
bank not see a contraction of that size? For goodness sake?
Eden Park's seven Yes best near as the weak as
reality finally arrived in suburban Auckland. I been have a
massive facility and actually use it? How novel teaches four?
Got'll be honest? Do you support penju Woma swung against you?
Hashtag over played your hand? Not to mention the doctors

(08:01):
and the nurses. Jordi bamashaik living the dream? Hamish Kurt
eight same thing holiday alone. I mean you can't lankive
were those numbers? Someone's got money and someone is looking
for the good times? Are Watties five? Oh boy, I'll
get an update on that for you. There's something going
on with China as regards the peachures anyway. The intersection

(08:21):
of rhetoric, Oh I always buy local and the reality
what three ninety third world does them for ninety nine cents?
Ram seven, No wrong, Ram, that's the better Ram killed
the ev version of the truck. Guess why. The intersection
of rhetoric and reality. Fiji Airways seven Apex Awards. They

(08:46):
won it one of the best alliance in the world. Now,
the story there is that they weren't always that they
were down in the like one hundred and five from
where they were to where they are. That is a turnaround.
Good story. Virgin speaking of Elements and Pets seven game changer,
Shane Jones six, it's my hardy. Can we already think

(09:07):
he was the deputy? I think we did, didn't we?
Benjamin Doyle too, I was waiting for something. Libelers there,
what a hapless, self aggrandizing waste of time. I mean
the Greens really do have a massive credibility issue when
it comes to candidate Polution Dartly. I mean that the
turnover and that party is embarrassing. Jimmy Kimmel three. Now, no, no,

(09:30):
it's not a catwe God's sake.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
If they be a bit ambitious. This is the most
sound effects I've ever tried to put in today.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Working for you, We'll sack you now. If they've stuck
with being light and entertaining. Isn't that the key that
Leno said the other day when he was doing the shows,
to just keep it light. I mean, all the angst
in those shows these days. Now the AB's four over
reaction of the week. I mean, yes we lost, and
yes we lost badly, but last week or the week before,
we won brilliantly. I mean that's elite sport, not every
days your day. The Warrior seven on the whole a

(10:00):
pretty good season. I mean, yes, we need more new,
better players. But out of the thirty one seasons I've
been following, this was one of the better seasons. And
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Speaker 3 (10:19):
So way yep, that certainly through the catamarks, the rams
a record number of sound effects. As I said there,
I was too ambitious, it was too much. I went
too far. I flew too close to the sun. Oh well,
live and learn the rerat of course. Really, the main
talking point of the week has been where our peach

(10:41):
is coming from?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And so this seems to be getting more complicated, not less.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Just if you've missed the dumped Chinese peaches story. So
the story was this the company, as in Watties, continue
a fight, so their fight's been on. I don't know
why they haven't explained this to the wider world, because
this would this would this would explain a lot. So anyway,
they've got a fight on at the moment to stem
these alleged dumping of peaches. So back in July heinz

(11:09):
Watti's they were successful in getting the Ministry of mb
in other words, to begin investigating a little two years
after after the termination of an earlier investigation, so they
were looking for a second investigation. Now, the earlier investigation
ended in June of twenty three, and that found that
though preserved peach imports were dumped. And this part I

(11:30):
didn't know, but this interests me. It found that preserved
peach imports were dumped, but it was not harming the
domestic industry, so no duties were imposed. Now, just to
background it if you don't know how this works. Under
free trade agreements and in general under law, you cannot
dump products in a country. And when you were found

(11:50):
to be dumping a product in a country, either fines
are incurred or duties are put in place. How you
can find yes, you were dumping, but no, it didn't
affect the domestic industry. Is beyond me. However, they are
hurting now, hence the decision by what is to stop
work with their growers and PAMs is doing the business

(12:11):
at ninety nine cents a can as opposed to three
dollars sixty. It's unclear how related this particular move is
to the discounted imports from China. I would have thought
it's pretty obviously clear anyway, what his name brand. They
pitch these peaches as premium product. The surplus they stick
into the oaks. So the interesting thing, and this is

(12:31):
why I raised the Proper Crisps before, because they're the
same peaches and the only difference is the branding. So
that's part of the story. So when the Proper Crisps
move to Auckland and you open a bag of whatever
is is it proper? Is it anything else? Anyway, back
to the peaches, the volume of preserved peaches coming in
from China's risen from three hundred thousand killer Gram's a

(12:53):
quarter back in twenty eighteen to just shive seven hundred
thousand in twenty twenty four. So three hundred to seven
hundred thousand, where are the peaches if they're not being dumped?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
And possible to defect the domestic industry.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Is it possible that we have now talked about peaches
so much and created so much peach height with our
Peacha Gidden's story that the demand.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Through the roof is now there?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Could boo? But what are in me doing saying yes
they're dumping, but yeah, there's no effect. How can you
have stuff on the market that's not dumped and doesn't
affect the domestic market. I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And it might be two completely different markets. There might
be premium a premium peach market out there and a
chief peach market. And I'm not sure actually about my
theory about creating demand, because although we've been talking about
peach's NonStop, I just still don't really feel like them.
The proper crest, on the other hand, every time that

(13:49):
gets raised, I just want a bag all to myself.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Which does not really fit into my current diet.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
If I'm going to be pertly honest with you, no
matter what factory they're made, and I am a glen hat.
That was how I made a batch of re wraps
for you this week. I'll cook you up another one
on Monday.

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