October 5, 2025 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) The Mayor Doesn't Really Count/That About Wraps It Up for Netball/My Kids Aren't My Fault/Everything That's Wrong with the World
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk. S'd be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Ok there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best bits from the Mic Hosking breakfast on News Talks.
They'd be in a sillier package. I only in hand today.
This netball thing is ridiculous because not only do we
not really know any of the details from either side
of it, but it's just been going on so long.
What's happening young people? They've been told they can't get
(00:51):
the benefit if they leave school too soon or anyway.
It's all the parents fold apparently. And Taylor Swift's got
an album out, Yeah yeah, blah blah blah. But before
any of that, who's been voting in the local body election?
And I had a terrible thought today if this thing
occurred to me. I'll explain in a moment.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know two people who voted over the weekend in
Auckland and the Auckland Region were up to the fantastic total.
It's like telethon fifteen point nine percent.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
When you say they voted, did they vote like for
everything or did they just vote for the mayor. I
was just talking to somebody who voted over the weekend
and they voted for mayor.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They will never break down. It's a very good question,
isn't it. I reckon whatever the voting Telly is, it'd
be at least half that for the people on the council.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
At a very least at the very least.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So I've got two people I know, two people who
voted over the weekend, and those numbers don't include the weekend,
but at fifteen point nine.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, So that just occurred to me today because even
if I was going to vote, I don't think I am,
because I don't want like any of the options. So
as I've said before, I were like my vote to
be for not for having a council at all. But anyway,
even if I were to, I would vote for the
mayor and that would be about it. And actual fact,
(02:08):
of course, the mayor is heavily outnumbered by all the
other people, and nobody's voting for all the other people.
So when they say such and such a percent of
people have voted, they've only voted for the mayor, haven't they?
How many of them have actually voted for all the
people you're supposed to vote for bugger all. I'd say,
so we wrap. Can we vote for who we want
to be in charge of the New Zealand netball team
and then vote the winging at the players who are
(02:30):
doing the winging off? I don't think we can, but
maybe we should be able to.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I don't think it's unfair to ask. Is it just
how much damage of those who are running netbull doing
to their sport at the moment? I mean, do they
have a plan, an endgame, any idea of what they're
actually doing? Nolin Tarua has been stood down, of course,
for the Constellation Cup. This is the second series she's missed.
This whole scenario, let's use the word shall we want
to Debarkle has gone on far too long? It's a
(02:54):
mystery game that appears no closer to resolution than it
was several weeks ago. There was a week of meetings
last week, a week of them. One of them, I noted,
lasted ten hours. Just what is it you do in
a meeting that lasts that long? This won't be a
complex issue, doesn't appear complex. This will be a disagreement
over approach. This is about ideology. Trouble with ideology as
you can debate it literally forever. That's where the leadership
(03:16):
comes in. That's why leaders make decisions. So the trouble
with netball as many fold of course, these days, viewings down,
qualities down, because the players have left for Australia, broadcasting
revenue is down, and now a coach, a legend of
the sport has been handled within ineptitude, rarely seen at
this level. The accusation still appears to be that Knowles
is a bit old fashioned. Knowles demands a bit much
(03:37):
of the players, and some of the players are a
bit soft and don't like it. Not all players, of course.
One of the best players, Grace and Wicky, called it
out after a game last week, not a smart move
in normal circumstances, but clearly driven by frustration. It goes
to one of the sticky issues of elite sport player power.
Does the talent run the show or the coach? Specifically
in this case, just what sort of talent is it
(04:00):
that's calling the coach out? Are they the players you
can't afford to lose or some new bees a bit
emboldened and the coach surely she's due a level of
respect that allows her view to hold some sort of sway.
So she's old fashioned? Is that new?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Has it led to a success? Yes? Are we lucky
to have her? Yes? So they bang some heads and
still have an issue at that point, surely it's back
on those who run the game. If you let this
slide longer and longer. Can we not suggest you aren't
actually running your game? You were abdicating your responsibility to lead.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Mind you, I suppose you never know what's going on
behind the scenes, don't you. But I mean that's what
somebody should be telling us, like as Noline using the
jandle on them or something to as a bit of
harsh discipline. I don't think that's happening, is it? But
if it was, would we feel so sorry for her? Then? Right?
So school horrible place. I never wanted to be there.
(04:52):
There was nothing to do with whether or not. I
felt like it was training me to realize said that,
Actually it was a little bit because of that. I
sort of thought it got to the point where I
was thinking, what has any of this got to do
with real life? But I don't know that it's necessarily
a good reason to beat up on art history.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's smite all the good plublicity around the edge cation
ministers up ending of the high school curriculum. If you
followed the story or continue to follow the story, we're
starting to see a little bit of pushback at the moment.
We've got the art history people not happy. Neither are
the HOSPOW people. Some in the ag sector a little
bit upset as well. Now the argument over what stays
and what goes, and funnily enough, the people involved in
(05:27):
what goes, but they're the ones with the beef at
the moment. So art history good example. I mean, art
history is niche, it's a passion, not a path. It's
I mean in an ideal world, would it be available,
yes it would. Is this an ideal world? No, it's
not HOSPO. Now they argue that they're an important part
of the overall curriculum coome economy because they are tied to tourism,
(05:48):
and tourism is a stated part of government economic policy,
all of which is true. They argue that HOSPO in
year eleven gives you the taste you pick up a knife,
you learn about not eating bad chicken, and from that,
apparently you go on to open a cafe. So here's
the question, excepting that everybody who loves their subject can
mountain argument to keep it. What is all four? Is
(06:09):
school there to teach you an actual skill? In other words,
you decide at age fourteen you want to be a
bar manager, you want to open a sushi joint, so
you take HOSPO year one nceea or is school there
to teach you to inquire and to learn? Now, my
argument around HOSPER and jobs like it is there inherent.
It's not actually about chopping salary. In many cases, it's
about being your own boss. Hosper is not about tourism
(06:30):
per se. I mean, yes, to receive, but so to locals.
HOSPO is as much about business as it is about food,
or hygiene or hiring labor. Nothing I learned in school
led me to radio. Nothing you learn in school leads
you to being a surgeon. School is about opening doors
and broadening ideas, And yes, it equips you in certain
specific areas, like being able to speak and read and write.
But in a country where simply turning up is the
(06:52):
biggest issue, art history sadly is a fair way down
the old totem pole in terms of critical issues. I
made a pool table in woodwork, but I only did
woodwork because a failed tech drawing. In the end, I
used neither. And like life, education has rungs of reality.
We can't do it all. Your passion subject is somebody
else's indulgence. Is hospo there to breed Gordon Ramsay's or
(07:13):
shelter kids looking for an easy out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, I get a defensive about the art history
thing because when they kicked me out of seventh form,
the only two of my teachers who can plain with
my art history teacher and my English teacher, because apparently
they thought that I was quite good at those two subjects.
Those two teachers. All the other teachers me are. I think, God,
he's not in my class, just wrapping my class.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And fairness to me. When I left school with absolutely
no job prospects whatsoever, I didn't go on the doll
I went busking instead. So it's sort of begging, I suppose,
but I didn't go on the doll.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Morning, Mike. We employed mental apprentices in the construction space
and electrical as well, and you did write attitude Trump's
academics any day of the week. I learned that one
of the advantages you had when you got five kids
is they're all different, and we've we've been lucky enough
at home to have a traditional pathway through universities for
some of them. Others have wanted to make their own
way in the world. I told you last week one
(08:14):
of them has got four jobs at the moment. They're
working at the gig economy. That's their dream, that's what
they want to do. They want to hustle, they want
to grind. But at the end of the day, there
was no expectation in our house that any of them
were ever going to end up on welfare. They could
do whatever they wanted with their lives. They could leave
school whenever they wanted. They could get qualifications or not
get qualifications. They could go off and train, they could
not train. They could start a business, they could hustle,
(08:35):
they could do whatever they liked. But at no point
was anybody expecting them to beyond welfare. It was not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know how I feel about this. I've got
a sort of a dependent child at the moment, who
I would have thought was far too old to be dependent.
And because you know, huss has got a hard line
there on the Husking hawksby kids. Right, But if they
couldn't get a job or didn't have a job, I mean,
(09:02):
obviously they'd probably still be allowed to stay living at
home and keep eating the food and using the power.
And you know, wouldn't they It's easy to say from
past possession. Just quietly the re wrap, right, we're going
to finish sharp. I've tried to avoid Taylor Swift all morning,
but we actually ended up spending quite a lot of
(09:23):
time talking about this new album, which I thought I
had already been out for weeks because it's been so
hyped that apparently only came out the other day anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And what I like about it, let me tell you
what I like about it. I like who she is.
I like what she's about. I like successful people who
aspire to be brilliant, and she is brilliant. She's the
biggest thing in the world by so far. It doesn't matter.
You can always tell these things because albums come out
every day and no one covers albums anymore. But the
whole world stopped for this particular album release. Everyone from
Fox to C and N to CNBC to the BBC
(09:55):
all had stories about an album release and her coverage
up why she started in Britain. I have no idea.
Do we know why that happened? She started in Britain.
She went on Norton over the weekend and I watched
an interview she did with the BBC. So why she
and Britain doing that? I've got no idea. But never
the the album, I mean, she's not my cup of
tea personally. There's a couple of songs on that album
that are lovely. She's a better poet than she is
a musician as far as I can work out. She
(10:16):
has some very very clever words and there's a couple
of really good tracks. She's hard not to like. I
love her. I think she's a fantastic human being as
far as you know, being brilliant is concerned. She is
the voice of a generation.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Ah. For me, it's just the dictionary. I've always found
her to be just the dictionary definition of vacuous. Like
I don't really have a problem with her. It's all
very nice, but I feel like it's just sucking something
out of me, like a black hole. And she's obviously
(10:50):
sucking the money out of all their fan base, that's
for sure, but not really giving anything back. You know
what I mean. I've probably just got a mental block
about it or something. I mean, surely most of the
world can't be wrong. I am Glenn Hart. That's the Rewrap.
(11:10):
I'll be back with my view of the world tomorrow.
We'll probably just be talking about Taylor's biok again.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk. S'd be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Ok there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best bits from the Mic Hosking breakfast on News Talks.
They'd be in a sillier package. I only in hand today.
This netball thing is ridiculous because not only do we
not really know any of the details from either side
of it, but it's just been going on so long.
What's happening young people? They've been told they can't get
(00:51):
the benefit if they leave school too soon or anyway.
It's all the parents fold apparently. And Taylor Swift's got
an album out, Yeah yeah, blah blah blah. But before
any of that, who's been voting in the local body election?
And I had a terrible thought today if this thing
occurred to me. I'll explain in a moment.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know two people who voted over the weekend in
Auckland and the Auckland Region were up to the fantastic total.
It's like telethon fifteen point nine percent.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
When you say they voted, did they vote like for
everything or did they just vote for the mayor. I
was just talking to somebody who voted over the weekend
and they voted for mayor.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They will never break down. It's a very good question,
isn't it. I reckon whatever the voting Telly is, it'd
be at least half that for the people on the council.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
At a very least at the very least.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So I've got two people I know, two people who
voted over the weekend, and those numbers don't include the weekend,
but at fifteen point nine.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, So that just occurred to me today because even
if I was going to vote, I don't think I am,
because I don't want like any of the options. So
as I've said before, I were like my vote to
be for not for having a council at all. But anyway,
even if I were to, I would vote for the
mayor and that would be about it. And actual fact,
(02:08):
of course, the mayor is heavily outnumbered by all the
other people, and nobody's voting for all the other people.
So when they say such and such a percent of
people have voted, they've only voted for the mayor, haven't they?
How many of them have actually voted for all the
people you're supposed to vote for bugger all. I'd say,
so we wrap. Can we vote for who we want
to be in charge of the New Zealand netball team
and then vote the winging at the players who are
(02:30):
doing the winging off? I don't think we can, but
maybe we should be able to.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I don't think it's unfair to ask. Is it just
how much damage of those who are running netbull doing
to their sport at the moment? I mean, do they
have a plan, an endgame, any idea of what they're
actually doing? Nolin Tarua has been stood down, of course,
for the Constellation Cup. This is the second series she's missed.
This whole scenario, let's use the word shall we want
to Debarkle has gone on far too long? It's a
(02:54):
mystery game that appears no closer to resolution than it
was several weeks ago. There was a week of meetings
last week, a week of them. One of them, I noted,
lasted ten hours. Just what is it you do in
a meeting that lasts that long? This won't be a
complex issue, doesn't appear complex. This will be a disagreement
over approach. This is about ideology. Trouble with ideology as
you can debate it literally forever. That's where the leadership
(03:16):
comes in. That's why leaders make decisions. So the trouble
with netball as many fold of course, these days, viewings down,
qualities down, because the players have left for Australia, broadcasting
revenue is down, and now a coach, a legend of
the sport has been handled within ineptitude, rarely seen at
this level. The accusation still appears to be that Knowles
is a bit old fashioned. Knowles demands a bit much
(03:37):
of the players, and some of the players are a
bit soft and don't like it. Not all players, of course.
One of the best players, Grace and Wicky, called it
out after a game last week, not a smart move
in normal circumstances, but clearly driven by frustration. It goes
to one of the sticky issues of elite sport player power.
Does the talent run the show or the coach? Specifically
in this case, just what sort of talent is it
(04:00):
that's calling the coach out? Are they the players you
can't afford to lose or some new bees a bit
emboldened and the coach surely she's due a level of
respect that allows her view to hold some sort of sway.
So she's old fashioned? Is that new?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Has it led to a success? Yes? Are we lucky
to have her? Yes? So they bang some heads and
still have an issue at that point, surely it's back
on those who run the game. If you let this
slide longer and longer. Can we not suggest you aren't
actually running your game? You were abdicating your responsibility to lead.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Mind you, I suppose you never know what's going on
behind the scenes, don't you. But I mean that's what
somebody should be telling us, like as Noline using the
jandle on them or something to as a bit of
harsh discipline. I don't think that's happening, is it? But
if it was, would we feel so sorry for her? Then? Right?
So school horrible place. I never wanted to be there.
(04:52):
There was nothing to do with whether or not. I
felt like it was training me to realize said that,
Actually it was a little bit because of that. I
sort of thought it got to the point where I
was thinking, what has any of this got to do
with real life? But I don't know that it's necessarily
a good reason to beat up on art history.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's smite all the good plublicity around the edge cation
ministers up ending of the high school curriculum. If you
followed the story or continue to follow the story, we're
starting to see a little bit of pushback at the moment.
We've got the art history people not happy. Neither are
the HOSPOW people. Some in the ag sector a little
bit upset as well. Now the argument over what stays
and what goes, and funnily enough, the people involved in
(05:27):
what goes, but they're the ones with the beef at
the moment. So art history good example. I mean, art
history is niche, it's a passion, not a path. It's
I mean in an ideal world, would it be available,
yes it would. Is this an ideal world? No, it's
not HOSPO. Now they argue that they're an important part
of the overall curriculum coome economy because they are tied to tourism,
(05:48):
and tourism is a stated part of government economic policy,
all of which is true. They argue that HOSPO in
year eleven gives you the taste you pick up a knife,
you learn about not eating bad chicken, and from that,
apparently you go on to open a cafe. So here's
the question, excepting that everybody who loves their subject can
mountain argument to keep it. What is all four? Is
(06:09):
school there to teach you an actual skill? In other words,
you decide at age fourteen you want to be a
bar manager, you want to open a sushi joint, so
you take HOSPO year one nceea or is school there
to teach you to inquire and to learn? Now, my
argument around HOSPER and jobs like it is there inherent.
It's not actually about chopping salary. In many cases, it's
about being your own boss. Hosper is not about tourism
(06:30):
per se. I mean, yes, to receive, but so to locals.
HOSPO is as much about business as it is about food,
or hygiene or hiring labor. Nothing I learned in school
led me to radio. Nothing you learn in school leads
you to being a surgeon. School is about opening doors
and broadening ideas, And yes, it equips you in certain
specific areas, like being able to speak and read and write.
But in a country where simply turning up is the
(06:52):
biggest issue, art history sadly is a fair way down
the old totem pole in terms of critical issues. I
made a pool table in woodwork, but I only did
woodwork because a failed tech drawing. In the end, I
used neither. And like life, education has rungs of reality.
We can't do it all. Your passion subject is somebody
else's indulgence. Is hospo there to breed Gordon Ramsay's or
(07:13):
shelter kids looking for an easy out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, I get a defensive about the art history
thing because when they kicked me out of seventh form,
the only two of my teachers who can plain with
my art history teacher and my English teacher, because apparently
they thought that I was quite good at those two subjects.
Those two teachers. All the other teachers me are. I think, God,
he's not in my class, just wrapping my class.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And fairness to me. When I left school with absolutely
no job prospects whatsoever, I didn't go on the doll
I went busking instead. So it's sort of begging, I suppose,
but I didn't go on the doll.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Morning, Mike. We employed mental apprentices in the construction space
and electrical as well, and you did write attitude Trump's
academics any day of the week. I learned that one
of the advantages you had when you got five kids
is they're all different, and we've we've been lucky enough
at home to have a traditional pathway through universities for
some of them. Others have wanted to make their own
way in the world. I told you last week one
(08:14):
of them has got four jobs at the moment. They're
working at the gig economy. That's their dream, that's what
they want to do. They want to hustle, they want
to grind. But at the end of the day, there
was no expectation in our house that any of them
were ever going to end up on welfare. They could
do whatever they wanted with their lives. They could leave
school whenever they wanted. They could get qualifications or not
get qualifications. They could go off and train, they could
not train. They could start a business, they could hustle,
(08:35):
they could do whatever they liked. But at no point
was anybody expecting them to beyond welfare. It was not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know how I feel about this. I've got
a sort of a dependent child at the moment, who
I would have thought was far too old to be dependent.
And because you know, huss has got a hard line
there on the Husking hawksby kids. Right, But if they
couldn't get a job or didn't have a job, I mean,
(09:02):
obviously they'd probably still be allowed to stay living at
home and keep eating the food and using the power.
And you know, wouldn't they It's easy to say from
past possession. Just quietly the re wrap, right, we're going
to finish sharp. I've tried to avoid Taylor Swift all morning,
but we actually ended up spending quite a lot of
(09:23):
time talking about this new album, which I thought I
had already been out for weeks because it's been so
hyped that apparently only came out the other day anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And what I like about it, let me tell you
what I like about it. I like who she is.
I like what she's about. I like successful people who
aspire to be brilliant, and she is brilliant. She's the
biggest thing in the world by so far. It doesn't matter.
You can always tell these things because albums come out
every day and no one covers albums anymore. But the
whole world stopped for this particular album release. Everyone from
Fox to C and N to CNBC to the BBC
(09:55):
all had stories about an album release and her coverage
up why she started in Britain. I have no idea.
Do we know why that happened? She started in Britain.
She went on Norton over the weekend and I watched
an interview she did with the BBC. So why she
and Britain doing that? I've got no idea. But never
the the album, I mean, she's not my cup of
tea personally. There's a couple of songs on that album
that are lovely. She's a better poet than she is
a musician as far as I can work out. She
(10:16):
has some very very clever words and there's a couple
of really good tracks. She's hard not to like. I
love her. I think she's a fantastic human being as
far as you know, being brilliant is concerned. She is
the voice of a generation.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Ah. For me, it's just the dictionary. I've always found
her to be just the dictionary definition of vacuous. Like
I don't really have a problem with her. It's all
very nice, but I feel like it's just sucking something
out of me, like a black hole. And she's obviously
(10:50):
sucking the money out of all their fan base, that's
for sure, but not really giving anything back. You know
what I mean. I've probably just got a mental block
about it or something. I mean, surely most of the
world can't be wrong. I am Glenn Hart. That's the Rewrap.
(11:10):
I'll be back with my view of the world tomorrow.
We'll probably just be talking about Taylor's biok again.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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