July 1, 2025 • 9 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) More Nice Things We Can't Have/The Maorification Conspiracy/We're All Off to the F1!/Blame Winter
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday. All
the best, but it's from the mic asking breakfast on
news Talks. It'd been a sillier package irom gly in
heart and today get your tinfoil hats on. We're going
to be discussing one two seven B. Come on, you
know you know what that is and what the scheme is.
Mike's off to Silverstone for the year one. And when
(00:48):
I say that, I mean he'll be watching it on TV.
And how's the warehouse going? I bet they've had some
pretty good retail sales lately. Everybody seems to be shopping.
But before any of that, the ongoing question will there
be enough power for everybody?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean, it's only Wednesday. In fact, it's only the
start of Wednesday, so let's be honest. We've only had
two days of news so far, and already two stories
around power one. Transpawer said, we need to find more
revenues of power generation, and we need to do that
quickly because until all the promised transition stuff comes online,
we're going to be short of capacity, No kidding. They said,
we have a lot of promises on renewable, but the
(01:25):
delivery isn't happening all that quickly, no kidding. And then
two Genesis says they're looking at what they call a
fast start plant at Huntley. Hasn't Huntley become quite the thing? Ah?
A while back, Huntley was the ugly girl friend of
the power generation family, Poor old, ugly fat Huntley. That
was when promises around wind and sun were flying and
(01:45):
the future was renewable and we could all save the planet.
What a gargantuan cock up that turned out to be. Now,
for at least the third winter in a row, the
industry's falling over itself to tell us what's not right,
what's not delivered, and drumming up new ideas that dire
I suggest should have been drummed up a long time ago.
As regards Huntley, gas and cole the coal pile, by
the way, has never been larger. But gas and coal
(02:05):
takes twelve hours to get going in short starts. Is
what it does? You turn it on like a light.
Could I ask why is it now they're dreaming up
these ideas? Can I ask Why is it now that
all the power companies are cooperating around Huntley to keep
it going for years and years to come. Why is
it we wait until we are broken to actually find
a few solutions. Wenjinta made that captain's call to kill
(02:28):
the gas industry. Why did no one in the power
industry go hold on, We're not ready? Why are so
few proactive? Why is so little preventative planning done? Why
do we have winters of ankst around rainfall and business
cutting production and method excelling their power to others. Why
is it we wait until we don't have anything left
to think about what to do about getting it back
(02:51):
New Zealand ink Very nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm keep saying this
and saying this, but we're not really at first world country.
And also still I do also want to know if
second world countries are a thing, because when you never
hear about second world countries, about the first world and
in the third world, I feel like the set we
might be a second world country, which isn't as bad
as being a third world country. Anyway, you know, we
(03:16):
can have power some at the time to some of
our staff let's not get too carried away.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right, here we go. Don't tell anyone, but we're
about to talk about one two seven b.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
New developments, new developments in the now infamous one two
seven of the Education Training and Amendment Bill. Now Actors,
it turns out, tried to get the treaty clause taken out.
National stopped it. National has an argument. It's not a
bad argument, but it's nuanced. And the question is where
the nuanced argument, in an age of rage and clickbait
is wise. National want the highest possible achievement for every student,
(03:50):
nothing wrong with that. That is the quote unquote paramount
objective they are sending to all boards around the country, travelers.
The treaty clause is still there. So the Prime Minister's
Education Minister is stuck arguing two things. The two things
almost inevitably get lost in the fury of the debate. Acts.
If it was up to us, the clause on the
treaty would be gone. Keeps it simple, doesn't it? Now?
(04:13):
Part of the debate has to be around whether or
not a clause, a race based clause, is of interest
to you. It is possible that most of the country
doesn't follow this debate, doesn't care and therefore it doesn't
damage national doesn't add to the reputation that there are
a lot of talk, no action, a lot of debates
these days, and one two seven may be one of
them are whipped up by pressure groups and spun into
(04:33):
a thing with an email type campaign. I can speak
from experience. A lot of people who forded emails to
me this time around clearly haven't read a word of
what they're objecting to. It's very broad brush anger at best.
Poor old Erica Stanford was busy on this program the
other day arguing that there are legitimate questions about the
treaty clauses. So that's why Paul Goldsmith is looking at it.
(04:55):
That's political code for we hope it'll go away. But
looking isn't doing, and that is to Act's advantage. Of course,
what we do know, and this makes it worse, is
schools are obsessed with MARI issues. Schools do spend an
inordinate amount of time on stuff that isn't reading, writing,
and adding. And because our schools produce kids who haven't
passed much or don't turn up at all, the charge
is easy to lay that if they spent less time
(05:16):
on the morification of the place we might be better off.
So politics and race and schools. Here's a heady gold
mix for national in a world of simplistic clarity egged
on by emotion, there have a bob each way approach
looks increasingly to my mind like procrastination.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And excuse me if Mike uses the word garification, if
indeed that is a word every day this week, will
that make you think that he's racist? Just throwing that
out there, probably not right. We had somebody texting today,
(05:54):
I'm wondering if any poor people listen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
To news towards it be rewrap.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I don't know what they's got to do with anything.
I don't know why I've brought that up. Ah, that's right,
it was because it was off the back of this.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I am slightly if I can be honest with you,
slightly jelly of the business this weekend, I won't bore
you yet again with our shall we go on holiday?
Shall we not go somewhere on holiday routine for July?
And one of the places we're looking at going is London.
What's happening in London this week? And ask yourself what's
happening in London this weekend. The answer is Silverstone and
the answer is f one. Now, if there's one thing
(06:27):
I would quite like to do, it's go to and
if one not Melbourne, you anyone go to Melbourne. Silverstone
is the greatest track in the world. And to watch
them race in a beautiful, hot English summer. That's a
bit of a bucket list for me. But I'm not
going so anyway. That's seeing the bad story.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
C furious goings on behind the scenes of trying to
arrange a trip to. Next is Silverstone GP, So that's
exciting the rewrap. I mean, obviously it won't be me.
I'll be left behind here to push the buttons and
make sure it all works.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But you know, Mike Spier in Belgium, great track to
watch Yspara's watching the last week and in it wasn't Spa.
It was the Red Bull Ring, which is Austria and
Spa is Belgium. But there's similar tracks. A lot of forestry,
a lot of hillside, a lot of country, a lot
of lot of genesse aqua.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I thought the Canadian one was pretty with all the waters.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it's next to the water and it's sort of Yeah,
it's got some trees. Get I get what you're saying.
Mon's is the same sort of thing. But I guess
there's nothing that the Spa track, there's a straight and
I can't remember the name of the strait, but you
come down and then you up the strait like a rocket.
It's a famous straight. People listening to everyone will know
what what I'm saying. In fact, they're probably not listening.
(07:49):
They're probably all in Europe at the moment and they've
gone on holiday. Hopefully they're still listening on iHeart.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah. I think it was about this point where people
started texting and wondering if any poor people listen to
the show, because it seems like everybody had a favorite,
if one track that they'd personally been to or regularly
go to or about to go to. And of course
none of those tracks are here in New Zealand. The
rerat Here in New Zealand, we shop at places like
(08:16):
the warehouse, or do we?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So you go to the warehouse. Now they talk you
about retail because Andrew gab is the numbers Hospo, not
the hospital. But retail are still optimistic for the future,
so good on them. But the warehouse. They downgraded their
earnings forecast again yesterday. Now is that retail, is that
the economy, or is that the warehouse struggling to get
their act together. They're blaming the winter this time because
(08:41):
it didn't start at the right time or whatever. We
didn't go by a heater. But apparently things have turned around,
or hopefully they are, because June got cold and wet.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Who knows, which, in a sort of a tidy, sort
of a way, brings us back to where we started. Almost.
You can't, just like you can't really have a powergred
that relies on the weather being the way that you
want it to go. Surely you can't have your retail
sales just solely dependent on winter coming at the right time,
exactly the right time when you want it to. I
(09:10):
wouldn't have thought, but I'm probably wrong about that, which
is why I'm here doing this and not running the warehouse.
I suppose I am, Glenn Hart. I'll be back here
running this again tomorrow. See you the end.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
For more from News Talk set B listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday. All
the best, but it's from the mic asking breakfast on
news Talks. It'd been a sillier package irom gly in
heart and today get your tinfoil hats on. We're going
to be discussing one two seven B. Come on, you
know you know what that is and what the scheme is.
Mike's off to Silverstone for the year one. And when
(00:48):
I say that, I mean he'll be watching it on TV.
And how's the warehouse going? I bet they've had some
pretty good retail sales lately. Everybody seems to be shopping.
But before any of that, the ongoing question will there
be enough power for everybody?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean, it's only Wednesday. In fact, it's only the
start of Wednesday, so let's be honest. We've only had
two days of news so far, and already two stories
around power one. Transpawer said, we need to find more
revenues of power generation, and we need to do that
quickly because until all the promised transition stuff comes online,
we're going to be short of capacity, No kidding. They said,
we have a lot of promises on renewable, but the
(01:25):
delivery isn't happening all that quickly, no kidding. And then
two Genesis says they're looking at what they call a
fast start plant at Huntley. Hasn't Huntley become quite the thing? Ah?
A while back, Huntley was the ugly girl friend of
the power generation family, Poor old, ugly fat Huntley. That
was when promises around wind and sun were flying and
(01:45):
the future was renewable and we could all save the planet.
What a gargantuan cock up that turned out to be. Now,
for at least the third winter in a row, the
industry's falling over itself to tell us what's not right,
what's not delivered, and drumming up new ideas that dire
I suggest should have been drummed up a long time ago.
As regards Huntley, gas and cole the coal pile, by
the way, has never been larger. But gas and coal
(02:05):
takes twelve hours to get going in short starts. Is
what it does? You turn it on like a light.
Could I ask why is it now they're dreaming up
these ideas? Can I ask Why is it now that
all the power companies are cooperating around Huntley to keep
it going for years and years to come. Why is
it we wait until we are broken to actually find
a few solutions. Wenjinta made that captain's call to kill
(02:28):
the gas industry. Why did no one in the power
industry go hold on, We're not ready? Why are so
few proactive? Why is so little preventative planning done? Why
do we have winters of ankst around rainfall and business
cutting production and method excelling their power to others. Why
is it we wait until we don't have anything left
to think about what to do about getting it back
(02:51):
New Zealand ink Very nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm keep saying this
and saying this, but we're not really at first world country.
And also still I do also want to know if
second world countries are a thing, because when you never
hear about second world countries, about the first world and
in the third world, I feel like the set we
might be a second world country, which isn't as bad
as being a third world country. Anyway, you know, we
(03:16):
can have power some at the time to some of
our staff let's not get too carried away.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right, here we go. Don't tell anyone, but we're
about to talk about one two seven b.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
New developments, new developments in the now infamous one two
seven of the Education Training and Amendment Bill. Now Actors,
it turns out, tried to get the treaty clause taken out.
National stopped it. National has an argument. It's not a
bad argument, but it's nuanced. And the question is where
the nuanced argument, in an age of rage and clickbait
is wise. National want the highest possible achievement for every student,
(03:50):
nothing wrong with that. That is the quote unquote paramount
objective they are sending to all boards around the country, travelers.
The treaty clause is still there. So the Prime Minister's
Education Minister is stuck arguing two things. The two things
almost inevitably get lost in the fury of the debate. Acts.
If it was up to us, the clause on the
treaty would be gone. Keeps it simple, doesn't it? Now?
(04:13):
Part of the debate has to be around whether or
not a clause, a race based clause, is of interest
to you. It is possible that most of the country
doesn't follow this debate, doesn't care and therefore it doesn't
damage national doesn't add to the reputation that there are
a lot of talk, no action, a lot of debates
these days, and one two seven may be one of
them are whipped up by pressure groups and spun into
(04:33):
a thing with an email type campaign. I can speak
from experience. A lot of people who forded emails to
me this time around clearly haven't read a word of
what they're objecting to. It's very broad brush anger at best.
Poor old Erica Stanford was busy on this program the
other day arguing that there are legitimate questions about the
treaty clauses. So that's why Paul Goldsmith is looking at it.
(04:55):
That's political code for we hope it'll go away. But
looking isn't doing, and that is to Act's advantage. Of course,
what we do know, and this makes it worse, is
schools are obsessed with MARI issues. Schools do spend an
inordinate amount of time on stuff that isn't reading, writing,
and adding. And because our schools produce kids who haven't
passed much or don't turn up at all, the charge
is easy to lay that if they spent less time
(05:16):
on the morification of the place we might be better off.
So politics and race and schools. Here's a heady gold
mix for national in a world of simplistic clarity egged
on by emotion, there have a bob each way approach
looks increasingly to my mind like procrastination.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And excuse me if Mike uses the word garification, if
indeed that is a word every day this week, will
that make you think that he's racist? Just throwing that
out there, probably not right. We had somebody texting today,
(05:54):
I'm wondering if any poor people listen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
To news towards it be rewrap.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I don't know what they's got to do with anything.
I don't know why I've brought that up. Ah, that's right,
it was because it was off the back of this.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I am slightly if I can be honest with you,
slightly jelly of the business this weekend, I won't bore
you yet again with our shall we go on holiday?
Shall we not go somewhere on holiday routine for July?
And one of the places we're looking at going is London.
What's happening in London this week? And ask yourself what's
happening in London this weekend. The answer is Silverstone and
the answer is f one. Now, if there's one thing
(06:27):
I would quite like to do, it's go to and
if one not Melbourne, you anyone go to Melbourne. Silverstone
is the greatest track in the world. And to watch
them race in a beautiful, hot English summer. That's a
bit of a bucket list for me. But I'm not
going so anyway. That's seeing the bad story.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
C furious goings on behind the scenes of trying to
arrange a trip to. Next is Silverstone GP, So that's
exciting the rewrap. I mean, obviously it won't be me.
I'll be left behind here to push the buttons and
make sure it all works.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But you know, Mike Spier in Belgium, great track to
watch Yspara's watching the last week and in it wasn't Spa.
It was the Red Bull Ring, which is Austria and
Spa is Belgium. But there's similar tracks. A lot of forestry,
a lot of hillside, a lot of country, a lot
of lot of genesse aqua.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I thought the Canadian one was pretty with all the waters.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it's next to the water and it's sort of Yeah,
it's got some trees. Get I get what you're saying.
Mon's is the same sort of thing. But I guess
there's nothing that the Spa track, there's a straight and
I can't remember the name of the strait, but you
come down and then you up the strait like a rocket.
It's a famous straight. People listening to everyone will know
what what I'm saying. In fact, they're probably not listening.
(07:49):
They're probably all in Europe at the moment and they've
gone on holiday. Hopefully they're still listening on iHeart.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah. I think it was about this point where people
started texting and wondering if any poor people listen to
the show, because it seems like everybody had a favorite,
if one track that they'd personally been to or regularly
go to or about to go to. And of course
none of those tracks are here in New Zealand. The
rerat Here in New Zealand, we shop at places like
(08:16):
the warehouse, or do we?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So you go to the warehouse. Now they talk you
about retail because Andrew gab is the numbers Hospo, not
the hospital. But retail are still optimistic for the future,
so good on them. But the warehouse. They downgraded their
earnings forecast again yesterday. Now is that retail, is that
the economy, or is that the warehouse struggling to get
their act together. They're blaming the winter this time because
(08:41):
it didn't start at the right time or whatever. We
didn't go by a heater. But apparently things have turned around,
or hopefully they are, because June got cold and wet.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Who knows, which, in a sort of a tidy, sort
of a way, brings us back to where we started. Almost.
You can't, just like you can't really have a powergred
that relies on the weather being the way that you
want it to go. Surely you can't have your retail
sales just solely dependent on winter coming at the right time,
exactly the right time when you want it to. I
(09:10):
wouldn't have thought, but I'm probably wrong about that, which
is why I'm here doing this and not running the warehouse.
I suppose I am, Glenn Hart. I'll be back here
running this again tomorrow. See you the end.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
For more from News Talk set B listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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