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Talks it'd be and a sillier package. I am Glen
Hart today are the International visitor?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Levy?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Is that going to put Upland.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Airport out of business?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Public service pay? Is that what's putting New Zealand out
of business? Speaking of people running New Zealand, Andrew Bailey,
this thing is getting a little bit weirder every time
somebody talks about it. And what is a caucation? But
before any of that, why do we need so much
health insurance? Why are we paying out so much? What's
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gone wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
There are I'm here to tell you more people than
ever with private medical insurance. Let me give you some
numbers and the so called costs a lit in crisis.
Over fifteen thousand more people joined Southern Cross last year.
That's just one company. They've got almost a million customers now.
So having dealt with my company, which isn't Southern Cross
recently over a series of issues, I can inform you.
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I pay over four thousand dollars a year and I've
never made a claim in my life, so so far
they're winning. But I know a person who had an
OP the other day that had a value attached to it.
A forty thousand dollars. Wasn't a big op, wasn't a
major op. Forty thousand dollars. The surgeon did seven of
them that day, seven times forty thousand dollars operators. Seven
ops had forty thousand dollars. That's a lot of business
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for just one surgeon, one day, one clinic, which would
explain why Southern Cross are paying out six million dollars
a day last year. Think about that, six million dollars
for every business day last year. So my obvious question
is what's wrong with us? I mean, half of members
made a claim last year, there were over three million
actual claims.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
How is that possible?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
As a result of all these claims, Southern Cross ran
a deficit, no kidding. They also had to deal with
increased costs of claims. That's fifty percent, the fifty percent
of them, by the way, that's gone up from thirty
three percent used to be a third of people making
a claim now it's fifty percent. That was in twenty nineteen.
So in the past handful of years there's been an
explosion in medical claims. Why knees are up seventeen percent,
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colonoscopies are up seventeen percent, hips are up eleven percent?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I mean, is that age?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Are we all that now just literally falling apart? The
simple reality is this can't continue. Well, I mean it can,
but at a price. And is it any surprise your
price is going up. Part of the reason the numbers
are getting it's going up in terms of insurance, I've
got no doubt, is because the public system is under pressure.
Who would want to deal with the public system if
you've got the will with all not to so a
public system not working well on anything outside of emergencies
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and the private system under pressure from ever growing numbers
of claims. Is it possible we are not well as
a country? How come so many people are actively engaged
with the health system? Are we worse than Australia for example?
And if so, why how long can a private model
go for whereby the prices just go up and up
and up and up along with the claims we seemingly
are getting sicker and sicker. Why is this not the
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cold hard truth that when they say health is a
bottomless pit, it is in fact true because these numbers
show it is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Dislike most old people. He's missed the obvious point here,
and that there's so many more old people than there
ever used to be and there continues to be and
and you know a large percentage of these medical procedures
that people are claiming for will just make people live
even longer and exacerbate the problem even more so. It's
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a vicious cycle. Do you see we're back when you
know we only lived to thirty seven? How many insurance
claims do you think? If you know health insurance claims
had to be paid out, then not many count fop
my logic, we.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wrapped right now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Speaking of paying things, the terroists having to pay a
little bit more to come to New Zealand, is that
really hurt Auckland Airport's business that much?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Question for you?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Is there too much self interest in the Auckland Airport
upset over increased visitor levey fees, Auckland Airport bosses worried
about flat line tourism spending that was your headline yesterday?
Are they why now, why not last year or the
year before that? Why not went on this program? For
over two years now, we've been crying out for someone
to listen to the fact that it was becoming increasingly
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clear that we had managed to butcher our second or
first biggest foreign income earner. For years it was dairy tourism, tourism,
dairy back and forward dueling for the title of the
biggest foreign income earner for this country. Where were they then?
A small irony? Also, if the airport are worried about
increased charges, ask the airlines whether the airport has shown
the same concern over their charges to fund their expansion anyway.
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Is the airport worried about tourism because we should all
be worried about tourism, Or is the airport worried about
tourism because it affects their bottom line and ability to
funnel money back to the shareholders and are worrying about
the visitor levy? Is that something that genuinely aff efex
tourism numbers anyway or simply a scapegoat for much larger problems.
I would argue the latter. Yes, any increased cost is
to be avoided if we can. But when you're coming
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to New Zealand from London or Washington or Beijing, another
seventy bucks isn't going to break you. And if it
is the difference, you wouldn't be traveling Long Hall in
the first place. The real issue is New Zealand inc.
The clothes borders, lack of international contact, our inability post
COVID to get out there effectively enough and hustle. Nothing
is more expensive if you want to look at travel
than London, Paris, New York or the Mead in the
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peak of the European or northern summer. But people queue
and they pay, and their stats aren't our stats. Not
to mention our dollar makes everything cheaper anyway, The cold
hard truth is our fundamentals aren't right, our settings are off,
Our reputation is in need of major repair, if not overhaul.
To worry about seventy bucks is to miss the point.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Surely there is an easy way to get to the
bottom of this, isn't there? Don't We just ask a
bunch of visitors whether they minded paying the levee, and
I bet ninety nine out of one hundred of them
would have said, what Levy, what are you talking about?
Can you point me in the direction of your nearest
Manuka honey shop.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Please re wrap.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now, in these troubled times, we're taking a good hard
look at exactly how much the public service is costing
us and whether it's value for money. Aren't we well
when I say we, That's what I've got my husking for.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We had the news yesterday about the for the first
time ever, the average wage in the public services cracked
one hundred thousand dollars, and then yesterday we got the
list of who's earning the most. It is, of course,
the Public Service Commission that earns the most on average.
The average salary in the Public Service Commission is one
hundred and fifty five thousand dollars. Second is the Social
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Investment Agency, which as far as I know doesn't even
exist yet. That's the one that costs going to But
the average wage there is one hundred and forty nine thousand,
two hundred and then third is the very new David
Seymour Ministry of Regulation, where you will earn on average
there one hundred and forty eight thousand and eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Does this bother you?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Is this another thing I should be raising with the
Prime Minister, or do we have bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It does bother me a little bit that they seem
to be create departments that cost more than the ones
that were already there. Fast tracking that this kick. Ask government,
Oh well the reraped speaking of this fasting kick, Ask
government Andrew Bailey is part of it, and he had
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some weird behavior the other there that he's been pulled
up on. And the more questions you ask, the more
questions are left to ask why this sounds? It sort
of provokes wonderment and amazement.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What you reckon about the Bailey thing.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I wasn't interested in the Bailey thing other than up
until this particular point in time.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's been shockingly explained.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To the wider world by the media because there are
more questions and answers as I tried to outline yesterday,
and all you have to do in the media if
you don't know the detail that you know that people
want to know, just say, hey, obviously at home, you're
asking this question, this question, this question, and this question.
We don't know the answers to that hints it seems
a bit convoluted and complex. But the development this morning
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that he didn't know, the guy seems astonishing, for want
of a better word, how a conversation develops from I've
never met you, I've never seen you before in my
life too, Why don't you f off with your wine
and go home?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You loser?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And calling him a loser several times? How does it
have you ever been in a scenario when someone you've
never met starts telling you what a loser you are,
how you need to f off and go home.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It happens to me all the time, actually, now that
I think of it, But that's.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Because you're you.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I just seem to make a bad first and it
is it or is it not the weirdest thing in
the world.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It does seem about sort of school ground to me.
You know, that was sort of the last time that
people would just write people off without even talking to
them that I can remember, where they just go what
a loser? Yeah, just could still going by the look
of somebody is that it's very diffew do the re wrap. Right.
It's that time of year where you know, we can
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we can see the next paddleic holidays just just out
of reach. It's just a few weeks away, it's nearly here,
and we might be thinking about going on holiday.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And the house it's the fizz with business favor take
your business productivity to the next level.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
According to the House of Travel cooations are trending. We're
just making up words these days. Is this is what
the travels is is cool cations.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Cool cations hashtag you see.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It is that what it is.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You travel during the shoulder season, so that's the period
between peak and off and you travel the places that
are called cooler weather, fewer crowds, good deals. But for
the first time ever, call caations to Europe are expected
to match summer volumes of travel next year.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Isn't it incredible?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
They're already seeing a fourteen percent increase in caucation travel
bookings to Europe next year compared with this year. The
numbers up thirty six percent on twenty twenty three. They
expect to to keep climbing as the ocr cuts fuel
the travel demand. The moment we get a bit more money.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Let's go somewhere.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Italy is the top caucation destination, followed by Spain. In France,
In Spain, you'll be met at the airport by person
spraying you with a water pistol, saying go home. Go home,
but you won't. You'll go on your calcation. The majority
of us are also booking about nine months in advance
to take advantage of the early bird specials. Once we
land in Europe, guess what we like to do? No
one loves a river cruise more than a good old
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kiw callcation river cruise. And if we don't want a
river cruise, we want a small group tour. Sounds fun,
isn't it a with old Janis and Brian small group tour?
And if we don't want to do that, we want
a big ocean cruise. Walking and cycling is gaining in popularity.
We are so dynamic as a group, aren't we. We
go for a good walk in a cycle with Brian
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and Janis in a small group tour on our calcation
before we hop on a river cruise. Caucation's the most
popular with boomers.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No kidding, ha ha, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Hashtag host take exactly if.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You're looking to enjoy a beach.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
The most bookings have been to Croatia, followed by Grease
and of course France. So the caucation update and when
you say where you're going this year, don't use the
word ever again caucation. Are you going to go to caucation?
Don't say that stuff because it makes you look rude.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Hashtag sort of thing. And if they are, why didn't
Mike get more excited about my suggestion of hosk take
as opposed to pop take. You see what I'm trying
to do there. If I have to explain it like that,
then probably not a very good hashtag? All right, I
get your point. I am Glen Hart. Hashtag the rewrap
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see you back here again tomorrow with hashtag news talks
he had been, and another hashtag.
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