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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday, all
the best bits from the Mic Hosking breakfast on News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
He'd be in a sillier package.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I am Glen Heart and today our kids online safety
is at risk in spite of the various different social
media bands, cabin trading, how's that big cabin ouption going? Eh,
Pete Higgs seth might be for the chopping block soon.
The pressure's on and we will celebrate both the new
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christ Jut Stadium and IQ because Mike can't give enough
of either of those things before anything else.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, the social Media band, it's starting to really come
into effect in Australia. Now has anything changed now?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
The Australian Social Media Band has well, sort of. It
came in on Monday, officially December one. It actually starts
d Day as they're calling it is December ten. So
the worrying thing is that one of the big backers
of the idea said she believed, she believed, with all
her heart, her words, we were saving a generation. Now
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that simply, of course, is not true. I mean saving
them from what themselves. Theory versus reality very powerfully at
play in this particular move. So we're dealing with too
many intangibles here. So between Monday and this time next
week when it begins, teens have been busy in Australia
finding new apps that aren't covered by the band. Influencers
are busy as we speak directing traffic to those new
outlets in order to work around the rules. Now, the
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government smart this has been busy this week announcing a
new series of apps that will be covered. So we're
in a sort of a whack a mole stage at
the moment. Now, as far as I can work out,
a lot of pressure has been placed on the tech
companies to make sure kids don't lie. How literally that works,
I got no idea. I mean, like alcohol, you'll be
asked what age you are. Whether a tech company can
be held liable for dishonesty. I suppose, in some way,
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shape or form will end up in court. Face recognition
user profiles can be used, I guess, but at some
point a market the size of Australia might well end
up being more trouble than it's worth far better to
battle as these tech companies do with places like the
EU where privacy and trading laws are constantly under review,
and find to hand it out on an almost continual basis,
never forgetting, of course, that these tech companies we're now
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dealing with businesses worth more than many countries and governments. However,
flip side, this could of course be the trojan horse
Australia at the forefront of a major global movement that
is going to somehow shift the nature of technological interaction
of an entire generation. Studies may be launched if you
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were banned, say pre sixteen, when you get to the
golden age of sixteen, you suddenly cause you can get
on there and go nuts. See repression, never forget is
a problematic trait in a lot of social activity. So
we watch, I guess with interest. I don't think it
will lead to a lot personally. It has a touch
of virtue signaling about it all. But theory in Australia
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is now reality. And I'll tell you this for nothing
a bit. A lot of parents wish them well.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean it's what I've been saying all along.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is that just because it probably won't work, doesn't mean
that you shouldn't give it a go because it might
work a little bit, and even if it works a
little bit, that's better than not working at all. It's
a rewrap, however, and this you'd apply it to everything, everywhere,
all at once, they probably won't work at all.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
And then you come to YouTube, who yesterday called it
D day. They said, Messenger, WhatsApps, they're not on the list.
Discord Roadblocks is not on the list. There's still a
lot of detail, they were saying yesterday, a lot of
details surrounding the social media band that's hard to pin down.
They're disappointed. So they can't have playlists, no subscriptions to
fault well being tools all set aside. But anyway, Rachel Lord,
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who covers not just Australia for YouTube but also New Zealand,
Senior Manager of Public Policy, as we've consistently said, this
rushed regulation misunderstands our platform and the way young Australians
use it. Most importantly, this law will not fulfill its
promise to make kids safer online and will in fact
make Australian kids less safe on YouTube. Making it slightly
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complicated is ANAKA Wells who I happened to watch yesterday.
She was in front of the press people giving a
lunchtime address, and Anaka had just been busy spending one
hundred thousand dollars of taxpayers money flying to New York
to sprook her social media policy, and so the questions
were mainly around Anaka, how come you need to spend
one hundred thousand dollars for a three day trip to
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New York, which, of course took everyone's attention away from
the main subject concerned.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Hundred thousand bucks to seem like a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean, I knew that air travel was getting expensive,
but I didn't realize anyway. We Rabbi on the Foard
topic of things that seemed like a nice idea at
the time but haven't actually turned to work very well
in the long run. Another carbon options come and gone.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
The definition of madness a of stupidity question for you,
how many times do you do the same dumb thing
with no result, thus proving your system doesn't work before
you admit your system doesn't work. The last of the
Carbon auctions was held yesterday. You know where the story
is going. Of course, I first got interested in this
a couple of years ago when it struck me that
this auction malarchy might be one of the better examples
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of the sheer ideological madness that drive so much of
the climate policy. One of the reasons so many people
have got into forestry, of course, is it's free money.
You get carbon credits. It's on land, and land generally
is as well a good investment, and free money isn't
a bad deallib Also, after a while they might pay
you some good day for you would So if trees
get carbon credits, why would you turn up to an
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auction You wouldn't. And indeed, yesterday they didn't, not one person,
not one bid, not one credit. So now there are
four of these each year. For the past two years,
no one has bought a thing. Ask yourself why they've
tried to price the units to no avail. But what's
really causing the issue is the government. Now to buy something,
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you must believe it has value, It has to have worth.
Why would you buy into the government carbon narrative when
they keep changing the rules. This government is doing their
best to do as little as possible to meet their
climate emissions. Now the ironing of that is I actually
applaud that because it's the right thing to do. But
given the rules keep changing, I'm certainly not turning up
to buy stuff like a credit that I may not
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in fact need. The Minister, as I told you the
other day, took the unprecedented step of offering commentary about
the auction and telling us how committed the government is
to climate in the hope we would go, oh, well
that's okay, then see it. The auction didn't work. The
auction didn't work again. Eight down, zero sales, no revenue.
How long before they pulled the pen on a gargantuine embarrassment.
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The longer this goes, the more foolish they look.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It really is very hard, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, you can't really call it the emissions trading
scheme says some trading, and there isn't any trading, So
really it's just an emission scheme, isn't it, which makes
it sound slightly more dodgy, perhaps.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
As dodgyes as it is rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So another day goes by and we could just continue
to look at the US and think, well, how handcart
where we go?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
It's going to be interesting to see whether this goes
So tomorrow, the publicly released version unclassified version of the
old signal gate remember signal back in March, he risked
this is the report he risked compromising sensitive military information.
Inspector General has done the report. Four sources of leaked
so far. It's already gone to the Senate. He offered
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specific real time updates about planned military strikes. They were
so specific that one even read, this is when the
first bombs will drop. So you remember that particular story.
They said, it's no big deal, he didn't do anything wrong.
But that's what Pete says now dovetail that with the
business of the second strike in the potential war crime,
and Trump's me should comments of support. And I just
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wonder if before Christmas Pete's going to be sent home
to find another job, will be interested to see where
that goes tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, it's almost as if all those people who spoke
at Pete Higgs's confirmation.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Hearing when they were going to decide whether he could
be the Secretary of then Defense now war of course,
who claimed that, you know, he was a wife eating
alcohol abuser, may.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Have had a bit of a point.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Our the rewrap. So it's Mike's penultimate day on air
this year. And I felt like it was probably just
as good a time as any to really see how
far I could wind him.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Map Mike so have the promoter, like David Higgins makes
shed loads of money out of the event. Does he
pay the government's investment? Now, of course he doesn't. But
it's and that's what makes the whole calculation so interesting.
Mike's sixty is the first concert to open our new stadium?
Are you kidding? Is that the best we could do
after everything we've been through? Second rate? Lame? Now, that's
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that's being unfair to six sixty and Synthhony. I'm told
that Synthony is like seriously successful and popular and they're
looking to take it global if they haven't already. The
concept of sitting and this is no disrespect to David Higgins,
because I love David, But the concept of sitting in
a park watching some people play some musical instruments to
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the sound of rock and roll is I'd rather shoot myself.
But lots of people like it, and.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You can't say, hand it a bit disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
And did it?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No? Well?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No, no, I like I mean no because I like
David because he has ideas that work. I mean you
can't argue this idea doesn't work. It's successful, it's popular.
I mean the fact that I don't like it, who cares?
But and six sixty is another one. I mean, they
keep saying that six sixty is this extraordinary global thing,
and when you look at the crowds, you can't argue
with it. But you know, I you know what you
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wanting Taylor Swift or Bruce Springsteen. But here's the problem
with christ Urcher. You look at the stadium. The problem
with the Christchurch Stadium not that there's a huge it's small.
It's not a big stadium. It's not sixty thousand and
so the big of the event, I mean, how many
of those days? I mean, if you'll get somebody like
Taylor Swift, she'd have to have twenty seven concerts to
pay the bill to sell it out every night. And
can I also suggest that there's such a fressan, a
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pent up prostration about the christ Stadium. You could have
had me there and I would have sold out, because
you're going to have said, mystery guest. It would have
sold out, wouldn't it. I mean, if you all you
have to do is find thirty seven thousand people to
pay you a few dollars to go and sell something out.
They would have gone.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They should have put an I care store next to it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
They should have put I was why did you do that?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
If you were so nearly at boiling point, I'd just
see if.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Could get that kittle blowing.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I was going to spend the morning ignoring that because
all the rest of the lap dogs in the media,
we're going to see and see what you've done now
medical assistance, Nah, not you horse of the year got cancel.
It's like somebody yesterday, they say. Honestly, somebody said to me,
it's like some are getting McDonald's. Isn't It isn't. It's
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just that's how pathetic we become as a nation that
when a shop like Ikea opens. I've got nothing against Ikea,
and you do realize you've been able to buy Ikea
in this country for years, so what they're offering today
is no different from yesterday. It's been readily available. It
just doesn't happen to be in an Ikea shop. But
if you look at the media today, it's like it's
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like they've discovered time or gravity, or food or water
or it's just it's too pathetic for Glenn.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
See how I control them like a puppet.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I've got to say that was quite it was quite
gratifying just watching his blood pressure go up from the
vein start throbbing in his temples. Seriously, if you're out
and about you see Mike Hoskeig, just yell ikea Adam
and watch the steam come out the stack out of
his ears.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He's really really upset about I care.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Needless to say, I don't think he's going to be
receiving any promotional product.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
From them or anything to try and get a mentioned.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Or maybe they will just just to really.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Put your and push him over the edge.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Go on, Ike, or idea you send him, Send him
a black pat coffee table or something. I a glared heart,
send everybody else and Ike smart speakers so they can
put this somewhere and listen to it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
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