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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
There and welcome to the Rerap for Tuesday. All the
best but from the mic asking breakfast on news Talk,
said B and a Sillier package. I am Glen Hart,
and today we've got a pole. Didn't we have a
poll yesterday? And didn't we agree that that was meaningless
and pointless doing a poll? Anyway, That's all we've got.
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We're looking back at boot camps and seeing how they
solved absolutely everything that was wrong with the world, so
that was great, as predicted, and then we'll finish up
with some general Chinese weirdness, which is always fun. But
before any of that, as Palestine a state or isn't
it pats.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Out question of supporting a Palestine in states something you
do when you look like you're wanting to do something.
The Australian Cabinet signed it off allegedly yesterday. The announcement's
due maybe in September. We apparently are thinking about it,
talking about it. Maybe we do the same thing, maybe
we don't. If anything happens, we'll join France and Canada.
People also claim the UK has done the same thing,
although I read the UK is having threatened Israel with
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it as a as opposed to offering it as some
sort of move towards peace, the two state solution to
what what actually happens? I mean, does the war stop?
Does the hate stop? Does the aid flow? Do people
stop dying? Does a mass leave town? Are the weapons
put down? Does anything actually happen? Obviously Israel's ropable in
the United States won't be far behind, and they're upset.
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But it appears it's one of those things you do
once you've called for a ceasefire. Didn't happen, Hostages to
be released, didn't happen, aid to be allowed into Gaza
maybe or maybe didn't happen. The reality as opposed to
the endless fanciful hot air is the headline I read
yesterday which summed it all up, beautifully trapped in a
death spiral, Net and Yahoo and Hamas commit to endless war.
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Isn't that the simple truth? Right or wrong? Nothing's happening,
nothing's new, and the advance or the advantage of having
been a ry in a while, as you have seen
the same story over and over again. I mean when
October happened almost two years ago. Now the Israelis hit back.
I said, on this very program, this will be the
same as last time and the time before. Go back
as far as you like. I said that not because
I'm some genius, but because it's obvious. As each month passes,
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all the usual players have joined, and all the usual
players have said what usual players have said every time.
Impotent bystanders who at best can dabble periodically in small
amounts of aid or help say things. People who can't
really say anything say some aid, some threats, some sanctions,
some threats. The severity of each chapter depends about on
who's in the White House. Of course, that's why this
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has gone longer and harder. But two groups determined to
wipe each other off the face of the earth will
never stop until one wins. Definitively recognizing one as a
state will not make it jot of different.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So yeah, we've seen it all before, basically, and it
just goes round and round and round and around. And
the question is really what will we see first, peace
in the Middle East or the Warriors winning an err final.
It's a close contest. It's a rewrap anyway, either some
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people weren't up at the beginning of the show to
hear Mike's comments on this, or they're just having trouble
getting it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I hesitate to even go here, but here goes, why
would Mike New Zealand support or recognize as a sovereign
state a place run by a terrorist organization? Linda, that
comes all of these things come with the criteria, and
the criteria is that if we recognize the Palestinian state,
must not have anything to do with it. Thus you
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then lead down the rabbit hole of futility. That is
the fact that every time the Palestinians go and have
a vote, which you will notice, as history tells, isn't
that often. But when they do have a vote, they
vote for Hamas, which would then lead you to believe
that we couldn't recognize Palestine, which would then believe we
will go run and round in circle. So, if you've
been following this as I have for forty to fifty years,
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it's the same thing over and over and over and
over and over again. And read the Sydney Morning Herald
from yesterday with the headline I featured earlier on the program. Basically,
Hamas and Lenya, who are in a doom spiral never
to end, and the sooner we extract ourselves from it.
Given we can do nothing, change nothing, the better off
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we are because we've got bigger fish to fry domestically.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yes, and I must agree with the husk the news
room are probably over egging things a little bit to
say the world is watching to see what we're going
to do on this. I think the last time the
world was watching New Zealand was when John Oliver got
obsessed with the Bird of the Air competition. I think
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that was that was when really the world they have
their attention focused our way. The rewrap Okay, polar armor
now the pole just in and so that means that
Mike will need to dissect that for us because we
don't understand how these things work.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, a couple of wikis on last night's TV one
pole one is Labor went up four points, but it
was never explained where the four came from because the
only people who went down with the Greens who went
down too, So two of the four came from the Greens,
the other two seemed to come from nowhere. So to
have a look at the pole and add the numbers up.
I mean it all adds up, so I assume it's
within the margins, et cetera. Anyway, be that as it may.
What also wasn't pointed out is that once again the
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government wins sixty three to fifty eight seats. So it's
all center left, center right. Whether the Labour's up or
down doesn't really matter. It's the block. Where's the block.
Is the block winning the election? Yes or no? So
the center right block the current government sixty three seats
v fifty eight. That's comfortable when and more importantly, here's
the point everyone missed. That's in the middle of winter
and the depths of despair, with all the issues going
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on at the moment. In this general sense, the government
isn't before me particularly well. Despite all of that, they're
still winning sixty three to fifty eight, so by the
time we get to next year they again to bolt home. Furthermore,
also not pointed out, the fifty eight for fifty eight
six for the center left block comes with Greens and
the Maori Party. In other words, Labour can't get close
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to government without both those parties. Now we know the
coalition on the center right works. You know, within a margin,
they're comfortable they get on it's functioning. Do we know
the left block can functioned at all? And given we
can't say that, there's your real issue for next year
the travelers.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I think I said this there might have been
on this morning's news doorgs zed Bean podcasts actually very
good podcasts. You should go and check that one out.
I on it quite frequently. Fantastic podcasts. Subscribe to news
doorgs VD. Anyway, I might have been said, how green voters,
it's not always clear that green voters really know who
or what they're voting for, depending on you know, you've
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got sort of generally youthful, generally upset with the way
the world is. You know, there's a lot of that
sort of thing going, so they'll vote green without really
looking up how many people are on the list, who
those people are, whether they're effective operators, were there any
of that matters? And sometimes I wonder about that left
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block that Hosking is so dismissive of there. Do the
people who are voting for the individual parties that make
up that left block do they have a massive understanding
of what that means if they vote for that party
and the other kinds of parties that they're going to
have to hang around with and get things done. Maybe
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I'm being a little bit patronizing and I should give
them some credit. Rewrap, Now, didn't the boot camps do
marvelously or the boot camp trial or whatever it was? Gosh,
it was going to be the answer to all our problems,
wasn't it the boot camp?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Perhaps the biggest problem I was thinking to myself yesterday
with the military style of caning Adam and the ensuing
pilot report is not the number of people who reoffended.
I mean, hell, I thought they all would, but rather
the fact that it was in the minds of too
many predetermined those who called them boot camps are in
the invidious position, of course, of banking the idea but
not having a solution, which is an awfully easy position
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to find yourself in labour. And the Greens hate the idea,
of course. It's unkind. It doesn't involve sitting around talking
about your feelings a lot. It's not forgiving. It doesn't
recognize trauma or your past. That's why crime got so
hopelessly out of control as it did in the past
handful of years. Their policy was to have fewer people
in prison, a lot of judges with massive discounts, and
just an overarching view that short of some serious stuff
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a bitter but a smash and grab or biffo, were
somewhere between teenage high jinks and lautish behavior that a
good telling off might address. Meantime, back in the real world,
we were completely sick and tired of the garrises in
the shop windows and the layabouts wandering out of woollies
with legs of lamb and slabs abit not having paid
for them. So military academies ten of the worst, given
a few months with rigorous oversight, hopefully to get back
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out and wrapped up with support of some expert guidance
and fingers crossed a life changing experience. Now many respects,
the government were on a hiding to nothing. I mean,
ten of the worst. What have they got to lose?
I mean the fact two didn't reoffend. I would have
thought it was a little short of a miracle. Those
that did offend, by the way, not widely reported, offend
it at a lesser level. And do not forget the
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trial is ongoing, the guidance, the wrap around mentorship is
still in action, so there is still hope now. Criticism
around the cost fair enough, But like most problems, when
it's been allowed to get progressively worse, whether it's a car,
or a paint job or a kid on the skids,
the bill goes up. This most likely won't be a miracle,
but it might be a dent. It might for some
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actually work. It might be better than what we've done, which
is little or nothing, but you would need an open
mind to come to that conclusion. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I don't know if you notice in there the High
seems to place very little light on whether any of
these kids have feeling or not, and whether somebody should
talk to them about them. And that is right, of course,
who cares what kids feel? They should stop feeling that
most people. That's where most of the problems start, isn't it.
People having feelings about things. Stop having feelings. The rewrap
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I think they outlawed that a long time ago. And
places like China, But what is in in China? Let's
find out.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Two weird things out of China. Weird thing number one
a new robot shop opened over the weekend in Beijing,
and they sell mechanical butlers that look like Elbert Einstein,
among other things. It's called robot Mall. They've got one
hundred types of robots. They also once you bought your robot,
they offer sales, spare parts, and maintenance. I don't know
what sort of maintenance a robot needs, but you'll be
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able to interact with a big range of robots and
dogs and chess players. The dogs and chess players are
also robots. It's next to a themed restaurant robot Mall,
and you go into the restaurant and you are served
by robots when the food is cooked by robots. And
the government is planning a trillion one fund for AI
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and robot startups. Would you buy an Albert Einstein robot?
But the funny thing about that is that's not the
weirdest thing from China. So if you thought buying an
Albert ELM Einstein robot was slightly unusual, here's the new trend.
Do you reckon? This is a trend that would ever
take off in New Zealand. So they got unemployment issues
in that particular part of the world, particularly among the
young and the young or youth employment rate. Unemployment rates
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more than fourteen percent, So some adults would rather pay
to go into an office than just be stuck at home.
Hence my question, do you think that would ever happen
in New Zealand? Do you know many New Zealand unemployed
people who think, I know, I'll give you some money
and I'll go into the office. So this guy I'm
reading about, he had a food business which fell over
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last year. So in April this year he started to
pay seven dollars a day to go into a mock
up office run by a business called Pretend to Work Company.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So I feel like I've been to a few of those.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But they don't call themselves Pretend to Work Company. So
he goes in every day and he joins his colleagues
who are also paying seven bucks a day at the
Pretend to Work Company, and they sit around and you
see these businesses in all over China at the moment, Shanghai, Nanjing, Wuhan, Sheengdu, Shanzing.
More often they look like fully functioning office officers. They've
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got computers, they've got Internet access, they've got meeting rooms,
they've got tea rooms. Occasionally you get some snacks and
some drinks involved, but apart from that, you just go
into the office each day to the pretend to work.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Presumably you can have meetings.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Of course you can. You can have a pretend meeting
that work company sounds great.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Who doesn't want to have a meeting?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Who doesn't want to have a meeting, and who doesn't
want to go to work and pretend to go to
work and to pay the person at the place that
you're going to while you remain unemployed? So which is
which is weird? At the robot or pretending to go
to work?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Do the opposite? I often pretend I'm at home when
I'm at work, and you know, try and make it
feel like work's not happening. So that's weird obviously at
the robot shop, given that sounds like they sell a
lot of spear parts and things as well. To keep
your robot maintained, you want to be getting a maintenance
robot as well as a nine stein weightter robot, and
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then the maintenance robot can keep the Einstein weight of
robot functioning. I would have thought a lot of robots,
isn't it? This is it's happening, isn't it? Apocalypse is
finally happening exciting times, And just like COVID, it's all
seemed to be starting in China. I am Glen Hart.
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A lot of weirdness in today's podcast. I think that's
just the way I like it. Tune in tomorrow and
see if it's just as weird. Then see if Newstalks
had been as weird as well. Jeez, that's catching fire.
There's a lot of heat here, a lot of people
talking about news. Doorgs had been Rerara.
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