September 15, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Fun AT Parties. Not AS a Party/We Can't All Do What We Love/Glad Uranium Will Never Run Out/COP Time Already?/More Bad Stuff We'll Pretend Won't Happen
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Then welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
but's from the mic asking breakfast on Newsbalks. They'd be
in a sillier package. I am being hard and today.
If the teachers don't like their job, as you go
do something else. I think it's kind of Marke's line
this morning uranium. He wants to talk uranium as well.
(00:46):
I think there's a connection between uranium and nuclear power,
and well we don't have any of it. Speaking of
power and the climate and all of that stuff, COP
thirty is imminent, so that's significant and the cost of
climate resp generally we'll get into that as well. The
(01:07):
first Labour's friends come the next election, did they actually have.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Any Labour is sweating the current Marray Party meltdown, you see.
So they've rolled out Willie as in Jackson who claims
Tuck at Ferris's handing his words not mine political extremists
ammunition to paint the Murray Party is too weird to
ever do business with Labor. Several problems with the plan. Firstly,
post the by election, Willie's got no credit. Willy couldn't
win a raffle far less of vote. Not only couldn't
(01:34):
he win the vote, he couldn't get anyone out even
to contemplate voting. What we saw a couple of weeks
ago in Auckland was the biggest by election shambles many
a long year. Next problem is the Murray Party are
too wacky to ever be in government Ferris or no Ferris,
and citing Ferris as some sort of issue, you are
forgetting Packer, Whiteytea and Mi P Clarke and all the
others who found themselves in front of the Privileges Committee
and sanctioned in a way we're not seen previously. These
(01:55):
are not people remotely interested in working with others. And
then that's the real issue for Labor. It's not the
Marray Party's problem. If the Murray Party weren't attached to
the center left block by polling, none of this faires
nonsense would be of any interest to anyone. But because
mathematically they're needed in an invented deal for polling purposes,
they take on larger importance because without them, Labour stands
(02:16):
zero chants in the election. Next year to make the
story interesting. What happens is the polsters in the media
have to align all three parties otherwise the narrative doesn't work.
Then the other issue for Willie, the so called political
extremists see talk of another name for them, by the way,
is Middle New Zealand. Who saw what labor and labor
alone did with married in between twenty twenty and twenty
twenty three. The obsession, the name changes, the new rules,
(02:38):
the courses, the compulsion around all things Marri talk about.
Turn the punter off between the Greens with their Palestine
and wealth tax fascination, the Maori Party and their separatism.
No wonder Labour are worried they've got freaks for friends.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh, come on, We've all got a few friends that
you know, they're kind of fun to have around the
right circumstances, but you don't necessarily want to pad them
home for dinner at mum's place, you know what I mean?
Who've got vote?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
True?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I guess you don't really want them in charge of
the country though, End fear and you've understood why the
minor parties get so overrepresented in the and with TenneT positions. Either,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
All that's about it the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, so Mike versus the Teachers, episode eighty seven. This morning,
here we go. Buckle up.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Small irony as are read. Are you in the right industry?
It was the question posed in the headline yesterday by
the release of those numbers we gave you on the program.
Are you in the right industry? The inference of courses.
The right industry is the one that pays a lot.
Turns out, as we told you, that's mining or versions
of it. If you're into drilling and digging, and in
general and fairly far flung places, the money's pretty good.
(03:50):
You might want to ask yourself why that might be.
Could it be it's hard, physical, dirty work in a
flung place against you got to get paid pretty well?
Most of us aren't into that. Other areas like management
and finance featured. These are all careers or industries where
the median wage is well in excess of one hundred
thousand dollars in a country where the average wage is
about eighty thousand dollar. Was the irony of the headline was.
It came on the first of several days this week,
(04:12):
in which, of course, our good friends the teachers will
not be going to work because they are yet again
on strike, and they're on strike for more money. Well,
I mean, they'll tell you it's about resource, but that's
only partly true. And I know it's only partly true
because no union I've heard has suggested they would forego
pay rises to be placed into said resource. They want
their cake and they want to eat it too. But
(04:33):
it's led to the big question, what is the right industry?
And is any industry sensibly judged by money and money alone?
I mean, can you honestly say you chose career A
and you did so because it was all about the numbers. Teaching,
of course, is an excellent example of where numbers aren't
the reason for the choice. No one goes into teaching
for the money, or nursing or anything organized or unionized
or under a management system that makes you an employee.
(04:55):
If money is your driver, you might well get comfortable,
I suppose, or well off, but you will most certainly
likely be miserable or bored or both because forty plus
years of anything you didn't choose out of passion is
a workplace death sentence. Passion and joy isn't what it's
all about from day one, it doesn't matter what they pay.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I agree with Mike on this issue, not specifically about teachers,
but about doing what you love up to a point,
because I mean, he likes his job obviously, I like
my job, and it is true that if either of
us didn't like it anymore, we'd probably stop doing it. However,
(05:36):
the problem with and you know, and so that's your
ideal scenario, isn't it. But I'm just not quite sure
how the toilets get clean, the rubbish gets empteed, the
scaffolding gets put up, the windows get washed, the septic
(05:58):
tanks get whatever they need to have done to it.
You know, it's for some people. Some of them might
be the very few people in the world doing that.
Those jobs go. This is what I live for. But yeah,
I feel like we might be under rexhauced in those positions.
(06:20):
If we got two carried away telling everybody you should
only do what you love rerap so in y today
we ain't got no gas or it's going to be
gone by twenty twenty nine. It could be an issue,
especially if we keep trying to use that to make
the electricity.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I told you so, but demand for uranium is forecast
rise by nearly a third by twenty thirty, more than
double by twenty forty. Is from the world in nuclear
association momentum in the industry, which we have not seen
for decades. So most of the world has worked out
nuclear as the answer. We've missed the boat completely because
we won't even have the discussion. But nevertheless, there are
(06:57):
answers out there, we just don't want to see them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And we'll never run out of uranium, right, that's that's
not one of these resources that is finite and eventually
will also leave us out in the cold, definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Fu're rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So regular listeners to this podcast or it's very successful
sister podcast, News Talks, had been may have heard me
spout on about the environment as though I care about
it and actually want to keep inhabiting the world in
some kind of sustainable fashion. So yeah, sorry about that.
(07:35):
And that's the kind of thing that they're going to
talk about at the next COP apparently.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Shortage of accommodation. I've got some advice here. There's a
problem building for COP thirty. Every year I do this
and every year I laugh.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We're up to thirty.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
We're up to thirty Cop Bear Cake. Let's say COP
thirty is in November. There's a shortage of accommodation. The
Brazilian President Silver he chose this city at the mouth
of the Amazon River so that we could all stand
a belliem at the mouth of the Amazon River and go, oh,
(08:08):
there's the world that we're desperate to save. Anyway, the
problem with it is there's no accommodation. There's a lot
of those what they call short term motels, if you
know what I mean, under normal circumstances, hired out by
the hour. Anyway, this price gouging going left, right and center.
And so the call from diplomats and various groups and
(08:29):
countries is can we do something about the accommodation. I'm
here to help. Don't go save your time, save you money,
save your energy, because as sure as night follows day,
I can assure you, right here, right now, the world
through COP twenty is going to be no better or
worse off because of your attendance at the mouth of
the Amazon River.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Couldn't they just wander off into the jungle like Joe
Biden did that time. It's always one of my lasting
it's not really a regret, and it's not something I
had any control over. But it is a shame that
that wasn't the last we ever saw or heard of him,
of Joe Biden, And imagine if that was the last
time we ever saw him, we just wandered off into
(09:08):
the jungle and we never saw them again. It would
have been so cool, so re wrap. But anyway, back
to saving the environment and how it's all got a
bit hard and it doesn't make commercial sense to do
that despite reports that add up all the financial book
(09:29):
impacts of climate change.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Do you ever want to see people getting carried away
with themselves? There was a massive report. It was a
thousand pages. That's useful, isn't it? A thousand pages into
climate change and the climate catastrophe that's facing Australia that
was released yesterday by the Climate Change Minister Chris bow
In a thousand pages. How many people aren't to none
will read that? I mean, honestly, climate change is ongoing, impact, cascading,
(09:52):
it's cascading, it's compounding, it's concurrent. It's called the National
Climate Risk Assessment Report. The whole country has a lot
at stake, etc. Particularly impacting Queensland, New South Wales Act
in Tasmania, Urban Tasmania. You've got to live in Tasmania
and climate change are going to get you. Cost of
action is smaller than the cost of inaction. There's a
line I haven't heard before. That's what you do with
(10:13):
important issues. Doesn't it come up with a cliche. Cost
of inaction is smaller than the cost of inaction. Loss.
They looked at loss of property values six hundred and
ten billion by twenty fifty. Do you reckon they think
that's accurate? What do you think they made that up?
Six hundred and eleven, not six hundred and nine, not
six hundred and twenty three, not five hundred and twelve,
six hundred and eleven to the last cent billion dollars
(10:34):
in the loss of property value by twenty fifty going
to be high heat, Certain occupations such as construction and
agriculture going to be more difficult. What does that mean?
You're going to get a sun burn, it's going to
be too hot, You're going to have to long the
lunch break or nothing. Seven hundred thousand. Listen to the
gaps and the numbers. They come up with somewhere between
seven hundred thousand and two point seven million workdays would
(10:56):
be lost by twenty sixty one due to heat waves,
so it's somewhere between seven hundred thousand and two. But
in other words, it could be anything. Labor productivity could
fall by between zero point two and zero point eight
quite a bit gap. That in dollar terms is somewhere
between one hundred and thirty five and four hundred and
twenty three billion. Once again, they've made these numbers up.
By twenty fifty, the number of coastal communities located and
(11:18):
high and very high risk areas will increase substantially, and
of current population remains the same that will represent it
increase one point five million people impacted in coastal areas
by corrosion, corrosion and other impacts a thousand pages. I
just summed that up rather and where's that going? Eh?
And what are they going to do about it? The
answer is, broadly speaking, nothing do.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You say corrosion erosion? So we've got to worry about
going rasty now as well.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Keep myself creased up and on that unpleasant mean vil image.
I'm going to leave you. I am Glen had off
to find some increase. We will see you back here
again tomorrow for more of this, whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from Newstalk st B. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Then welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
but's from the mic asking breakfast on Newsbalks. They'd be
in a sillier package. I am being hard and today.
If the teachers don't like their job, as you go
do something else. I think it's kind of Marke's line
this morning uranium. He wants to talk uranium as well.
(00:46):
I think there's a connection between uranium and nuclear power,
and well we don't have any of it. Speaking of
power and the climate and all of that stuff, COP
thirty is imminent, so that's significant and the cost of
climate resp generally we'll get into that as well. The
(01:07):
first Labour's friends come the next election, did they actually have.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Any Labour is sweating the current Marray Party meltdown, you see.
So they've rolled out Willie as in Jackson who claims
Tuck at Ferris's handing his words not mine political extremists
ammunition to paint the Murray Party is too weird to
ever do business with Labor. Several problems with the plan. Firstly,
post the by election, Willie's got no credit. Willy couldn't
win a raffle far less of vote. Not only couldn't
(01:34):
he win the vote, he couldn't get anyone out even
to contemplate voting. What we saw a couple of weeks
ago in Auckland was the biggest by election shambles many
a long year. Next problem is the Murray Party are
too wacky to ever be in government Ferris or no Ferris,
and citing Ferris as some sort of issue, you are
forgetting Packer, Whiteytea and Mi P Clarke and all the
others who found themselves in front of the Privileges Committee
and sanctioned in a way we're not seen previously. These
(01:55):
are not people remotely interested in working with others. And
then that's the real issue for Labor. It's not the
Marray Party's problem. If the Murray Party weren't attached to
the center left block by polling, none of this faires
nonsense would be of any interest to anyone. But because
mathematically they're needed in an invented deal for polling purposes,
they take on larger importance because without them, Labour stands
(02:16):
zero chants in the election. Next year to make the
story interesting. What happens is the polsters in the media
have to align all three parties otherwise the narrative doesn't work.
Then the other issue for Willie, the so called political
extremists see talk of another name for them, by the way,
is Middle New Zealand. Who saw what labor and labor
alone did with married in between twenty twenty and twenty
twenty three. The obsession, the name changes, the new rules,
(02:38):
the courses, the compulsion around all things Marri talk about.
Turn the punter off between the Greens with their Palestine
and wealth tax fascination, the Maori Party and their separatism.
No wonder Labour are worried they've got freaks for friends.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh, come on, We've all got a few friends that
you know, they're kind of fun to have around the
right circumstances, but you don't necessarily want to pad them
home for dinner at mum's place, you know what I mean?
Who've got vote?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
True?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I guess you don't really want them in charge of
the country though, End fear and you've understood why the
minor parties get so overrepresented in the and with TenneT positions. Either,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
All that's about it the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, so Mike versus the Teachers, episode eighty seven. This morning,
here we go. Buckle up.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Small irony as are read. Are you in the right industry?
It was the question posed in the headline yesterday by
the release of those numbers we gave you on the program.
Are you in the right industry? The inference of courses.
The right industry is the one that pays a lot.
Turns out, as we told you, that's mining or versions
of it. If you're into drilling and digging, and in
general and fairly far flung places, the money's pretty good.
(03:50):
You might want to ask yourself why that might be.
Could it be it's hard, physical, dirty work in a
flung place against you got to get paid pretty well?
Most of us aren't into that. Other areas like management
and finance featured. These are all careers or industries where
the median wage is well in excess of one hundred
thousand dollars in a country where the average wage is
about eighty thousand dollar. Was the irony of the headline was.
It came on the first of several days this week,
(04:12):
in which, of course, our good friends the teachers will
not be going to work because they are yet again
on strike, and they're on strike for more money. Well,
I mean, they'll tell you it's about resource, but that's
only partly true. And I know it's only partly true
because no union I've heard has suggested they would forego
pay rises to be placed into said resource. They want
their cake and they want to eat it too. But
(04:33):
it's led to the big question, what is the right industry?
And is any industry sensibly judged by money and money alone?
I mean, can you honestly say you chose career A
and you did so because it was all about the numbers. Teaching,
of course, is an excellent example of where numbers aren't
the reason for the choice. No one goes into teaching
for the money, or nursing or anything organized or unionized
or under a management system that makes you an employee.
(04:55):
If money is your driver, you might well get comfortable,
I suppose, or well off, but you will most certainly
likely be miserable or bored or both because forty plus
years of anything you didn't choose out of passion is
a workplace death sentence. Passion and joy isn't what it's
all about from day one, it doesn't matter what they pay.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I agree with Mike on this issue, not specifically about teachers,
but about doing what you love up to a point,
because I mean, he likes his job obviously, I like
my job, and it is true that if either of
us didn't like it anymore, we'd probably stop doing it. However,
(05:36):
the problem with and you know, and so that's your
ideal scenario, isn't it. But I'm just not quite sure
how the toilets get clean, the rubbish gets empteed, the
scaffolding gets put up, the windows get washed, the septic
(05:58):
tanks get whatever they need to have done to it.
You know, it's for some people. Some of them might
be the very few people in the world doing that.
Those jobs go. This is what I live for. But yeah,
I feel like we might be under rexhauced in those positions.
(06:20):
If we got two carried away telling everybody you should
only do what you love rerap so in y today
we ain't got no gas or it's going to be
gone by twenty twenty nine. It could be an issue,
especially if we keep trying to use that to make
the electricity.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I told you so, but demand for uranium is forecast
rise by nearly a third by twenty thirty, more than
double by twenty forty. Is from the world in nuclear
association momentum in the industry, which we have not seen
for decades. So most of the world has worked out
nuclear as the answer. We've missed the boat completely because
we won't even have the discussion. But nevertheless, there are
(06:57):
answers out there, we just don't want to see them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And we'll never run out of uranium, right, that's that's
not one of these resources that is finite and eventually
will also leave us out in the cold, definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Fu're rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So regular listeners to this podcast or it's very successful
sister podcast, News Talks, had been may have heard me
spout on about the environment as though I care about
it and actually want to keep inhabiting the world in
some kind of sustainable fashion. So yeah, sorry about that.
(07:35):
And that's the kind of thing that they're going to
talk about at the next COP apparently.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Shortage of accommodation. I've got some advice here. There's a
problem building for COP thirty. Every year I do this
and every year I laugh.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We're up to thirty.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
We're up to thirty Cop Bear Cake. Let's say COP
thirty is in November. There's a shortage of accommodation. The
Brazilian President Silver he chose this city at the mouth
of the Amazon River so that we could all stand
a belliem at the mouth of the Amazon River and go, oh,
(08:08):
there's the world that we're desperate to save. Anyway, the
problem with it is there's no accommodation. There's a lot
of those what they call short term motels, if you
know what I mean, under normal circumstances, hired out by
the hour. Anyway, this price gouging going left, right and center.
And so the call from diplomats and various groups and
(08:29):
countries is can we do something about the accommodation. I'm
here to help. Don't go save your time, save you money,
save your energy, because as sure as night follows day,
I can assure you, right here, right now, the world
through COP twenty is going to be no better or
worse off because of your attendance at the mouth of
the Amazon River.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Couldn't they just wander off into the jungle like Joe
Biden did that time. It's always one of my lasting
it's not really a regret, and it's not something I
had any control over. But it is a shame that
that wasn't the last we ever saw or heard of him,
of Joe Biden, And imagine if that was the last
time we ever saw him, we just wandered off into
(09:08):
the jungle and we never saw them again. It would
have been so cool, so re wrap. But anyway, back
to saving the environment and how it's all got a
bit hard and it doesn't make commercial sense to do
that despite reports that add up all the financial book
(09:29):
impacts of climate change.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Do you ever want to see people getting carried away
with themselves? There was a massive report. It was a
thousand pages. That's useful, isn't it? A thousand pages into
climate change and the climate catastrophe that's facing Australia that
was released yesterday by the Climate Change Minister Chris bow
In a thousand pages. How many people aren't to none
will read that? I mean, honestly, climate change is ongoing, impact, cascading,
(09:52):
it's cascading, it's compounding, it's concurrent. It's called the National
Climate Risk Assessment Report. The whole country has a lot
at stake, etc. Particularly impacting Queensland, New South Wales Act
in Tasmania, Urban Tasmania. You've got to live in Tasmania
and climate change are going to get you. Cost of
action is smaller than the cost of inaction. There's a
line I haven't heard before. That's what you do with
(10:13):
important issues. Doesn't it come up with a cliche. Cost
of inaction is smaller than the cost of inaction. Loss.
They looked at loss of property values six hundred and
ten billion by twenty fifty. Do you reckon they think
that's accurate? What do you think they made that up?
Six hundred and eleven, not six hundred and nine, not
six hundred and twenty three, not five hundred and twelve,
six hundred and eleven to the last cent billion dollars
(10:34):
in the loss of property value by twenty fifty going
to be high heat, Certain occupations such as construction and
agriculture going to be more difficult. What does that mean?
You're going to get a sun burn, it's going to
be too hot, You're going to have to long the
lunch break or nothing. Seven hundred thousand. Listen to the
gaps and the numbers. They come up with somewhere between
seven hundred thousand and two point seven million workdays would
(10:56):
be lost by twenty sixty one due to heat waves,
so it's somewhere between seven hundred thousand and two. But
in other words, it could be anything. Labor productivity could
fall by between zero point two and zero point eight
quite a bit gap. That in dollar terms is somewhere
between one hundred and thirty five and four hundred and
twenty three billion. Once again, they've made these numbers up.
By twenty fifty, the number of coastal communities located and
(11:18):
high and very high risk areas will increase substantially, and
of current population remains the same that will represent it
increase one point five million people impacted in coastal areas
by corrosion, corrosion and other impacts a thousand pages. I
just summed that up rather and where's that going? Eh?
And what are they going to do about it? The
answer is, broadly speaking, nothing do.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You say corrosion erosion? So we've got to worry about
going rasty now as well.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Keep myself creased up and on that unpleasant mean vil image.
I'm going to leave you. I am Glen had off
to find some increase. We will see you back here
again tomorrow for more of this, whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from Newstalk st B. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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