April 2, 2025 • 13 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Can't We Just Ignore Him and Hope He Goes Away?/Not a Fan of Low Mood/Housing is Relative/Trying To Remember Things
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rerap for Thursday. All the
best buts from the mic asking breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package, I am Greenheart Today we've
finally solved mental health, yes, and end the housing problems
and we'll we talked to Steve Williams this morning as well.
(00:46):
But before any of that, it's Liberation Day, It's Trump
Tariff Day.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
How excited are you?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
In an odd way, I think it's good that Donald
Trump is serious when he talks about a third term,
not because we want a third term or the fact
that he will get one, but because if he believes that,
he then believes he has to go back to the
American people and ask for their vote. And if he
does that, he has to also believe that his view
on tariff's will have paid off and half the world
will have relocated to America to make everything America needs,
(01:13):
and that the cost of doing that has meant that
it's become cheaper. In the golden age that he's talked
of has come to pass. Now, none of that is
going to happen because for reasons that ellude me, he
doesn't understand tariffs today being Liberation Day, Who the hell
knows how it unfolds and what the numbers are and
who's in and who's out and exempted, or whether the
numbers stay where they are or get changed or get
changed again and again and again. But what I do
(01:34):
know is tariffs are a false economy. Be as kind
to him as you like, but I can understand it.
For example, your American product faces issues getting into say Europe,
and they impose, say twenty five percent on your cars.
Japan do rice, India does dairy. Lots of people have
lots of reasons to protect local industries. So if you
accept that, you then place a similar tariff on products
(01:54):
coming into your country. It's poor business, but it is
tit for tat. A lot of it goes on. What, though,
I can't explain, is how he expects America to be
able to make anything and everything locally and at de
price everyone can afford. Cheap cars aren't made in America
because Union's price the labor higher than Asia. It's the
reason Australia no longer makes cars. So if you can't
produce products that a price people can afford, they go without.
(02:16):
An American voter is not going without a car. His
belief that a tariff is paid by the company and
the price has nothing to do with it is simply
a lie and will be exposed when the price goes
up and the consumer pays it. And when the consumer
pays it, that adds to inflation, which is any number
of polls and surveys already shows is expected to rise.
Growth slows, prices rise, inflation rises, growth slows. What makes
(02:39):
us mad is it isn't new. He's not inventing this
and trying to scam us. This is age old economics,
largely discredited by the arrival of free trade. A lot
of the stuff he wants to achieve. You can at
least get your head around.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You may not like it politically, but it has a
logic to it. Tariffs in the Trump style application makes
literally no sense. And even if he could have a
third term, he wouldn't get it because he would lose
because of this sort of matter.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
There you go, based on all those very sound and
logical and sensible arguments, I think it's odds on that
Trump will be doing another four, five, six, seven, eight,
nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Twelve years at least.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
All this stuff is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
If you know me, you know that anything to do
with money makes my head go round and around. And
tariffs are no different. So I need somebody like Mike
to explain it all to me.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Mike, why do we and the rest of the world
even bother with the US? Okay, there are other countries
in the world. Correct, We should just leave the US
to simmer down and trade with each other. Over seven
and a half billion people in one hundred and ninety
four countries. Well, that's simple. MAT's unfortunately, completely and utterly wrong.
Most of the one hundred and ninety four countries we
(03:54):
don't want to trade with because they've got no money.
The ones we want to trade with are the ones
with the money. What's the most powerful and lucrative economy
in the world. The answer is America. Do you know
how much more powerful and lucrative the American economy is
compared to the Chinese economy eighteen times? That's how wealthy
America is. They got three hundred and thirty old million people,
most of whom earn vastly more than we will ever
(04:14):
earn on a yearly basis. So they're wealthy, so we
want to sell them stuff. So where we're going to
get hit today is on I was just saying to
somebody during the news, the fortunate thing about this country
being a third world nation is that we make next
to nothing. So therefore there's not a lot of steel,
there's not a lot of aluminium. We don't make cars,
we don't make rockets, we don't make satellites. We're not
(04:36):
really into tech. What we do is grow some stuff
in a paddock, and it could be grapes, or it
could be sheep and beef. So we sell the tremendous
amount of beef to the Americans. And the reason they
import so much beef is twofold. One they don't make
enough of their own, and two our quality is exceedingly good.
The Australians have the same story, So we're going to
get hit on beef. My argument's always been around tariff's
(04:57):
and I think I might be a wee bit naive
on this. My argument has always been at the top
end of the market. There are people at the Upper
East Side of New York that will pay literally anything
for a piece of New Zealand steak. Therefore you can
terrif it. It won't be a major same with wine.
If you sell the writing to the wine market. The
person in New York on Madison Avenue, whether they pay
(05:18):
fourteen dollars US or seventeen dollars sixty doesn't make a
lot of difference to them. I think we may get
away with that stuff. Other countries, though, are going to
be far worse off than we are, but we shall
see how it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
See that person, I worry that they may have been
listening to my earlier podcasts from earlier this morning News
Dogs Have Been, which is a podcast that's a bit
like that suse it doesn't have as much Mike and
more of the other hosts in it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Check it out if you haven't. They could do with
the boosts and numbers.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Anyway, I'm worrying because I did say on that one
that my ongoing desire for the US to be cut
off the face of the Earth and a sense spinning
off into space because they wouldn't notice anybody else would
breathe a sigh of relief. I mean, as soon as
the show finishes for example today, which it has I
(06:12):
stop caring about this stuff at all. There's a TV
screen in front of me, Donald Trump speaking at the
moment he's making his a chat terror announcement.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Couldn't care less. Maybe it'll affect me, maybe it won't.
But what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So if I worry about it too much, then that's
a mental health outcome. It's a negative mental health outcome.
And I got no time for that.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Right The mental health thing part of that program we're
talking about this morning is if you have low mood,
so there's government money if you've got low mood. This
is not mental health crisis. This is not ambulance to
the bottom of the cliss stuff. This is not suicidence.
This is a few but not having such a good day.
There's money for that, hundreds of millions of dollars. Apparently.
The other point I wanted to raise with Karen and
I didn't have time is her press release. So she
(06:58):
is the Mental Health and Well Being Commissioner. Now I
don't know what these commissioners do apart from put out
press releases. And I've got another one coming yesterday from
the retirement reiterating everything we've ever heard about retirement. Just
again they employed somebody paid money that we don't have
to write yet another report that tells us the bleeding obvious. Anyway,
back to the business of mental health. Her press release
(07:21):
was full of sproken up bigness. In other words, I
love what labour did. I love the spending of the money.
Now the fact that it's not quite working as well
as it was supposed to, the fact that it hasn't
done what it was supposed to. That's right down the
very end of the press release. That's the bit that
no journalist is ever going to get to. I got there,
and that's why we conducted the interview we did. But
(07:41):
are they apologists for the government? As a commissioner? Correct
me if I'm wrong. I thought commissioners were supposed to
be independent. I thought they were supposed to hold people
to account, i e. The government. And just because you're
funded by the government doesn't mean you're a lackey to
the government. And if the program isn't working, the program
isn't working, and you should be saying that as opposed
to going, oh well, some people had a very good time,
(08:02):
thank you very much, And I'm sure there is, but
it wasn't what was supposed to happen with over half
a billion dollars of expenditure. So anyway, as I say,
we'll get who back another day and have a good
old discussion about that.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Good if you didn't have low mood, or if you
could reduce the amount of low mood you have, though,
don't you think. I don't know how much I'm willing
to fund other people's.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Moods, but if I could.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Get it get a handle on my own, certainly. I
don't think the mental health response is all sorted yet,
that's for sure, because I know some people that are
still waiting forever just see some very expensive psychiatrists so
(08:51):
they can get some kind of effective help for the
things that they go through. So it would be yeah,
I don't know if that means spending less money fixing
low mood, but yeah, if we can sort that, that'd
be great. The rewrap now on the list of things
the kick Ass, fast Track fanacles, scraping, rolling thunder government
(09:17):
is working on, it was probably the housing situation house prices.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Have we got enough houses? Who gets to live in them?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What sort of houses should they be? It's a very
complicated business.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Housing, isn't it a housing development for you? Housing development
that once again shows how reality beats theory. So housing
is a new Zealand obsession. Of course, we love housing,
We long to own housing. It encroaches on immigration and
whether too many people lead to higher prices. It encroaches
on politics and the expectation as to what governments do
about housing and the prices off. It involves social housing,
(09:51):
emergency housing. Key we say, it in comes, the Reserve Bank,
deposits LBRs. It's all encompassing in theory. If you could
make building cheaper, we would be keen to back that up,
wouldn't we?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, yes, I hear you say, yes, we would. So
what happened to clever Core. Clever Core is Fletcher's pre
fair house building factoryctory is closing? Why I hear you ask, well, because,
to quote Fletchers, it had not worked. Demand was the issue.
There wasn't enough of it. If you had conducted a survey,
which is theory, and asked could prefab housing help the
(10:23):
so called housing crisis in this country, you would have
gotten overwhelming yes. And yet did we follow our enthusiasm
up with some sales?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
We did not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Clearly.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Resistance from the building industry is another phrase that Fletcher's uses.
You see, as I've said many many times, we're happy
to moan about the cost of building, the cost of jib,
how cheap it is in Australia, how much a deck
out the back for the barbecue is, but prefab who know,
wouldn't touch prefab. Essentially, we're housing snobs, sort of like
coffee moan about six bucks for a flat, right, but
we're going to pay it anyway. Not that there's anything
(10:52):
wrong with that. I mean, if you want to pay
anywhere between ten and thirty five thousand dollars a square meter, terrific.
But what clever Core reveals is we don't actually want
to save. Often, we don't actually want solutions. What we
want is what we have and like accept at a
better price. What we can't have, what we can have,
we don't want, ask Fletcher's.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It is annoying, though, isn't it when you find the
house of the perfect pool that there's no butler's pantry
and it's only a single vanity in the end suite.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Rerap.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So we're going to finish up, not with Steve Williams
because you can go onto other bits of the news talks.
They'd be a website and hear the interview with him.
But we're going to finish up talking about interviewing Steve Williams.
It's a bit better, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I said the other day on the program, I said,
I don't think I'd ever interviewed Steve Williams before, And
to be to my I don't know if it's credit.
The team looked up and they couldn't find any interviews
with Steve Williams. When Steve walks in, the first thing
he goes, you have interviewed me and I have been
in before, and it's it's at that point you go,
(11:58):
what do I do?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Go?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Whoops, sorry, I'm getting old.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh you fired everybody and that's our last day, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Or do I say, of course, yeah, that's right and
everyone knows them full of it. Anyway, it went well
in the end, in't it? Mainly because he's a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
So on further investigation, I wasn't actually part of that conversation,
so I'd ended up unfiring myself. And on even further investigation,
I think Mike conflated two different conversations where he claimed
that he had talked to Alison Krause and or Robert
(12:33):
Plant when the Alison Kraus Robert Plant collaboration came out,
and then both Sam and I the production team, tried
to find evidence of this. He certainly didn't do it,
since he'd had been doing the breakfast program, and our
(12:54):
conclusion was that if he did do it, it was
when he used to host the Saturday morning show. So
but just the fact that he'd got those two conversations,
because if it asked me, I would have been able
to tell him, yes, it was twenty fifteen when we
talk to Steve William just because I can just look
it up on my computer and find and actually find
the audio.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Did you need to know all this? Probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Sometimes it's fun just to share a little bit of
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Do you think, oh Les, it's really.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Boring behind the scenes like that was sold about it
as Mike would say, we'll be back with more things
that Mike would say tomorrow, let's see you name.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rerap for Thursday. All the
best buts from the mic asking breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package, I am Greenheart Today we've
finally solved mental health, yes, and end the housing problems
and we'll we talked to Steve Williams this morning as well.
(00:46):
But before any of that, it's Liberation Day, It's Trump
Tariff Day.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
How excited are you?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
In an odd way, I think it's good that Donald
Trump is serious when he talks about a third term,
not because we want a third term or the fact
that he will get one, but because if he believes that,
he then believes he has to go back to the
American people and ask for their vote. And if he
does that, he has to also believe that his view
on tariff's will have paid off and half the world
will have relocated to America to make everything America needs,
(01:13):
and that the cost of doing that has meant that
it's become cheaper. In the golden age that he's talked
of has come to pass. Now, none of that is
going to happen because for reasons that ellude me, he
doesn't understand tariffs today being Liberation Day, Who the hell
knows how it unfolds and what the numbers are and
who's in and who's out and exempted, or whether the
numbers stay where they are or get changed or get
changed again and again and again. But what I do
(01:34):
know is tariffs are a false economy. Be as kind
to him as you like, but I can understand it.
For example, your American product faces issues getting into say Europe,
and they impose, say twenty five percent on your cars.
Japan do rice, India does dairy. Lots of people have
lots of reasons to protect local industries. So if you
accept that, you then place a similar tariff on products
(01:54):
coming into your country. It's poor business, but it is
tit for tat. A lot of it goes on. What, though,
I can't explain, is how he expects America to be
able to make anything and everything locally and at de
price everyone can afford. Cheap cars aren't made in America
because Union's price the labor higher than Asia. It's the
reason Australia no longer makes cars. So if you can't
produce products that a price people can afford, they go without.
(02:16):
An American voter is not going without a car. His
belief that a tariff is paid by the company and
the price has nothing to do with it is simply
a lie and will be exposed when the price goes
up and the consumer pays it. And when the consumer
pays it, that adds to inflation, which is any number
of polls and surveys already shows is expected to rise.
Growth slows, prices rise, inflation rises, growth slows. What makes
(02:39):
us mad is it isn't new. He's not inventing this
and trying to scam us. This is age old economics,
largely discredited by the arrival of free trade. A lot
of the stuff he wants to achieve. You can at
least get your head around.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You may not like it politically, but it has a
logic to it. Tariffs in the Trump style application makes
literally no sense. And even if he could have a
third term, he wouldn't get it because he would lose
because of this sort of matter.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
There you go, based on all those very sound and
logical and sensible arguments, I think it's odds on that
Trump will be doing another four, five, six, seven, eight,
nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Twelve years at least.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
All this stuff is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
If you know me, you know that anything to do
with money makes my head go round and around. And
tariffs are no different. So I need somebody like Mike
to explain it all to me.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Mike, why do we and the rest of the world
even bother with the US? Okay, there are other countries
in the world. Correct, We should just leave the US
to simmer down and trade with each other. Over seven
and a half billion people in one hundred and ninety
four countries. Well, that's simple. MAT's unfortunately, completely and utterly wrong.
Most of the one hundred and ninety four countries we
(03:54):
don't want to trade with because they've got no money.
The ones we want to trade with are the ones
with the money. What's the most powerful and lucrative economy
in the world. The answer is America. Do you know
how much more powerful and lucrative the American economy is
compared to the Chinese economy eighteen times? That's how wealthy
America is. They got three hundred and thirty old million people,
most of whom earn vastly more than we will ever
(04:14):
earn on a yearly basis. So they're wealthy, so we
want to sell them stuff. So where we're going to
get hit today is on I was just saying to
somebody during the news, the fortunate thing about this country
being a third world nation is that we make next
to nothing. So therefore there's not a lot of steel,
there's not a lot of aluminium. We don't make cars,
we don't make rockets, we don't make satellites. We're not
(04:36):
really into tech. What we do is grow some stuff
in a paddock, and it could be grapes, or it
could be sheep and beef. So we sell the tremendous
amount of beef to the Americans. And the reason they
import so much beef is twofold. One they don't make
enough of their own, and two our quality is exceedingly good.
The Australians have the same story, So we're going to
get hit on beef. My argument's always been around tariff's
(04:57):
and I think I might be a wee bit naive
on this. My argument has always been at the top
end of the market. There are people at the Upper
East Side of New York that will pay literally anything
for a piece of New Zealand steak. Therefore you can
terrif it. It won't be a major same with wine.
If you sell the writing to the wine market. The
person in New York on Madison Avenue, whether they pay
(05:18):
fourteen dollars US or seventeen dollars sixty doesn't make a
lot of difference to them. I think we may get
away with that stuff. Other countries, though, are going to
be far worse off than we are, but we shall
see how it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
See that person, I worry that they may have been
listening to my earlier podcasts from earlier this morning News
Dogs Have Been, which is a podcast that's a bit
like that suse it doesn't have as much Mike and
more of the other hosts in it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Check it out if you haven't. They could do with
the boosts and numbers.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Anyway, I'm worrying because I did say on that one
that my ongoing desire for the US to be cut
off the face of the Earth and a sense spinning
off into space because they wouldn't notice anybody else would
breathe a sigh of relief. I mean, as soon as
the show finishes for example today, which it has I
(06:12):
stop caring about this stuff at all. There's a TV
screen in front of me, Donald Trump speaking at the
moment he's making his a chat terror announcement.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Couldn't care less. Maybe it'll affect me, maybe it won't.
But what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So if I worry about it too much, then that's
a mental health outcome. It's a negative mental health outcome.
And I got no time for that.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Right The mental health thing part of that program we're
talking about this morning is if you have low mood,
so there's government money if you've got low mood. This
is not mental health crisis. This is not ambulance to
the bottom of the cliss stuff. This is not suicidence.
This is a few but not having such a good day.
There's money for that, hundreds of millions of dollars. Apparently.
The other point I wanted to raise with Karen and
I didn't have time is her press release. So she
(06:58):
is the Mental Health and Well Being Commissioner. Now I
don't know what these commissioners do apart from put out
press releases. And I've got another one coming yesterday from
the retirement reiterating everything we've ever heard about retirement. Just
again they employed somebody paid money that we don't have
to write yet another report that tells us the bleeding obvious. Anyway,
back to the business of mental health. Her press release
(07:21):
was full of sproken up bigness. In other words, I
love what labour did. I love the spending of the money.
Now the fact that it's not quite working as well
as it was supposed to, the fact that it hasn't
done what it was supposed to. That's right down the
very end of the press release. That's the bit that
no journalist is ever going to get to. I got there,
and that's why we conducted the interview we did. But
(07:41):
are they apologists for the government? As a commissioner? Correct
me if I'm wrong. I thought commissioners were supposed to
be independent. I thought they were supposed to hold people
to account, i e. The government. And just because you're
funded by the government doesn't mean you're a lackey to
the government. And if the program isn't working, the program
isn't working, and you should be saying that as opposed
to going, oh well, some people had a very good time,
(08:02):
thank you very much, And I'm sure there is, but
it wasn't what was supposed to happen with over half
a billion dollars of expenditure. So anyway, as I say,
we'll get who back another day and have a good
old discussion about that.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Good if you didn't have low mood, or if you
could reduce the amount of low mood you have, though,
don't you think. I don't know how much I'm willing
to fund other people's.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Moods, but if I could.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Get it get a handle on my own, certainly. I
don't think the mental health response is all sorted yet,
that's for sure, because I know some people that are
still waiting forever just see some very expensive psychiatrists so
(08:51):
they can get some kind of effective help for the
things that they go through. So it would be yeah,
I don't know if that means spending less money fixing
low mood, but yeah, if we can sort that, that'd
be great. The rewrap now on the list of things
the kick Ass, fast Track fanacles, scraping, rolling thunder government
(09:17):
is working on, it was probably the housing situation house prices.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Have we got enough houses? Who gets to live in them?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What sort of houses should they be? It's a very
complicated business.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Housing, isn't it a housing development for you? Housing development
that once again shows how reality beats theory. So housing
is a new Zealand obsession. Of course, we love housing,
We long to own housing. It encroaches on immigration and
whether too many people lead to higher prices. It encroaches
on politics and the expectation as to what governments do
about housing and the prices off. It involves social housing,
(09:51):
emergency housing. Key we say, it in comes, the Reserve Bank,
deposits LBRs. It's all encompassing in theory. If you could
make building cheaper, we would be keen to back that up,
wouldn't we?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, yes, I hear you say, yes, we would. So
what happened to clever Core. Clever Core is Fletcher's pre
fair house building factoryctory is closing? Why I hear you ask, well, because,
to quote Fletchers, it had not worked. Demand was the issue.
There wasn't enough of it. If you had conducted a survey,
which is theory, and asked could prefab housing help the
(10:23):
so called housing crisis in this country, you would have
gotten overwhelming yes. And yet did we follow our enthusiasm
up with some sales?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
We did not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Clearly.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Resistance from the building industry is another phrase that Fletcher's uses.
You see, as I've said many many times, we're happy
to moan about the cost of building, the cost of jib,
how cheap it is in Australia, how much a deck
out the back for the barbecue is, but prefab who know,
wouldn't touch prefab. Essentially, we're housing snobs, sort of like
coffee moan about six bucks for a flat, right, but
we're going to pay it anyway. Not that there's anything
(10:52):
wrong with that. I mean, if you want to pay
anywhere between ten and thirty five thousand dollars a square meter, terrific.
But what clever Core reveals is we don't actually want
to save. Often, we don't actually want solutions. What we
want is what we have and like accept at a
better price. What we can't have, what we can have,
we don't want, ask Fletcher's.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It is annoying, though, isn't it when you find the
house of the perfect pool that there's no butler's pantry
and it's only a single vanity in the end suite.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Rerap.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So we're going to finish up, not with Steve Williams
because you can go onto other bits of the news talks.
They'd be a website and hear the interview with him.
But we're going to finish up talking about interviewing Steve Williams.
It's a bit better, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I said the other day on the program, I said,
I don't think I'd ever interviewed Steve Williams before, And
to be to my I don't know if it's credit.
The team looked up and they couldn't find any interviews
with Steve Williams. When Steve walks in, the first thing
he goes, you have interviewed me and I have been
in before, and it's it's at that point you go,
(11:58):
what do I do?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Go?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Whoops, sorry, I'm getting old.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh you fired everybody and that's our last day, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Or do I say, of course, yeah, that's right and
everyone knows them full of it. Anyway, it went well
in the end, in't it? Mainly because he's a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
So on further investigation, I wasn't actually part of that conversation,
so I'd ended up unfiring myself. And on even further investigation,
I think Mike conflated two different conversations where he claimed
that he had talked to Alison Krause and or Robert
(12:33):
Plant when the Alison Kraus Robert Plant collaboration came out,
and then both Sam and I the production team, tried
to find evidence of this. He certainly didn't do it,
since he'd had been doing the breakfast program, and our
(12:54):
conclusion was that if he did do it, it was
when he used to host the Saturday morning show. So
but just the fact that he'd got those two conversations,
because if it asked me, I would have been able
to tell him, yes, it was twenty fifteen when we
talk to Steve William just because I can just look
it up on my computer and find and actually find
the audio.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Did you need to know all this? Probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Sometimes it's fun just to share a little bit of
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Do you think, oh Les, it's really.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Boring behind the scenes like that was sold about it
as Mike would say, we'll be back with more things
that Mike would say tomorrow, let's see you name.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
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