October 10, 2024 • 14 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) And You'll Enjoy It/Mark the Week/Vegetarianism Explained/Winning Peace Prizes for Doing War/So Much Paper
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, SAIDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, all
the best but from the mic asking breakfast on news Talk,
said B and a Sillier package. I am Glenn Hart
and today we will mark.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The week this Friday, and that is what we do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We've got so much Nobel Prize stuff to talk about
because nobody discusses that as much as we do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
As we've established firmly this week.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And Mike's recycling scandal is unveiled, revealed for any of that,
The census has posed some productivity questions.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Another small gem to come out of the census is
that we are working less. Does that surprise He doesn't
remotely surprise me. I still connect may be foolishly work
with success in the sense that attitude and life is everything.
People with the right attitude tend to be successful and workout.
They tend to get stuff done, They tend to have ideas.
They tend to be more upbeat, more into life, more active.
(01:20):
The malaise that this country's gone through as a result
of COVID is reflected in the various approaches to work
that have come out of it, i e. The fact
we don't like work. We want four day weeks, we
want not to come to the office anymore. We like
the unemployment benefit, we like the quiet quitting. There are,
in fact only two point six million of us in work.
Think about that for a moment. Half the country works,
half don't. That's not a lot of people raise the
(01:42):
money to pay for all the stuff we want. Anyway,
upon finding out that we work less, Good Old Radio
New Zealand who else went straight to the sort of
person you would expect to seize upon our approach to work,
to have them espouse the idea that we should in
fact work less. Yes, they rang some academics, people cloistered
away from the royal world to tell us we should
be working less. Not only did they want us to
(02:04):
work less, they profit the idea that if we work less,
productivity might go up. Ah productivity, the age old debate. Now,
the simple truth is we know we are not very
productive as a country, and we want to improve that.
So we've talked about it literally for decades, and yet
have we improved it? No, we have not, And I
can tell you for nothing, working less does not productivity improve.
(02:27):
There are, of course smarter ways to work. Set the task,
can get it done less mucking around, fewer road cones
and smoke, o's more digging the whole that sort of thing.
I was going to say, I actually like work. Work
is good. You have to enjoy your work, of course,
and for many I think that's probably part of the
productivity issue. If you don't like your job, it's hard
to do more of it. But enjoyment is a choice,
(02:48):
and certainly for most what you do for a crust
is in fact a choice, and from personal experience, if
you love what you do, it's not actually work. And
maybe if we broke the mindset that work as a
problem work is bad, then we wouldn't be as unproductive,
and they might be able to find an academic who
says we should work more because it's good for you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Ironically, and to me today both Mike and I, our
whole day at work is geared towards getting out of
here as fast as we can. That's all we want
to do is do whatever we can as efficiently as
possible and as productively as possible, so we can go
home and whether or not we do more work at home. Ironically,
(03:30):
again is up to us, and we do. But yeah,
that doesn't seem to have that doesn't seem that little
thought that's occurred to me today hasn't occurred to Mike yet.
I wonder if it Deevi will re wrap. He's too
busy to do things like marking the week. He writes
us at home actually and then brings it in.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Time now to mikel the week, little piece of news
and current affairs that's as popular as Taylor Swift tickets
at UK Labor Party headquarters. Nobel Prize is eight. I
mean they can't. I mean they get such scant coverage
here and in a world that has never been more desperate,
I would argue for brilliance and individuality and the celebrations
of the human spirit and achievement. Home ownership eight surely
the hero number out of the census. More of us
(04:07):
own a home. That's not what the rhetoric will tell you.
Speaking of which, the cash rate seven. We could and
we have watchfully rittle about the mess this has been
and is, but there is still no taking away from
the fact that fifty points is the beginning of the
return of better days. The Fed seven That actually is
how it should have been done. No recession, no panic,
minimum carnage. Jimmy Spittle seven, good guy, great athlete and
(04:31):
a very big contribution to the America's Cup, quite possibly
leaving a bit too soon. Fast Track six. Yes, it
is only a list at this stage, but the intent
is important. If this plays an outsize role in getting
the joint humming again, it'll be a good idea well received.
Kir Starmer three. Have you ever seen a politician take
a victory the size of his and cock it up
(04:52):
quite so quickly? Samsung seven my corporate hero of the week.
Now if you missed it, look up their letter of apology.
If more big names acted with that level of honor,
the world would be a much, much much better place.
Ships one two this week with is shoes I mean
one admittedly more serious than the other. But what is
it with this country in ships? Speaking of aquatics the
(05:15):
America's Cup Sex I might be it's sex, Glenn. I
might be wrong. You never can tell, but this could
actually be a contest. The Brits have improved out of sight.
Between the money of Radcliffe and the experience of Angeley.
It might well be quite the show. And the last
one more sex, Sex just doesn't want to do it.
Car sales Sex. After a meaga year, this week's stat
(05:39):
show sales are up. More green shoots. I would have
thought school holidays Sex almost over. Well done. All the
grandparents who did heavy lifting of grandkids who on day
one seemed cute has but by day seven were ungrateful
little snots. That's the week copies on the website, and
every all black was awarded a commemorative colored laminated version
of this to take with them on the Northern tour.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Actually, speaking of that particular running gag, that one right
there at the end of the marking of the week.
We'll have more details on that for you at the
end of therap All right, So, if you've been following
this podcast, or indeed this whole show closely enough this week,
you'll know that we have spent a reasonable amount of
(06:20):
time talking about Nobel.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Prizes, and today was no exception. In fact, it was
the opposite of an exception.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's right, it's Nobel Price time again. This morning we
have literature, and this is where it goes slightly off
peace in the sense that when you're dealing with physics
and chemistry and stuff, or even economics. It's less concept
and more specific than what they've done. Literature tends to
be a little bit different. Hang King is your winner.
She's an author and she has been awarded the prize
(06:47):
for her quote intense poetic prose that confronts historical traumas
and exposes the fragility of human life. She is from
South Korea, and notably, she is the first writer from
South Korea ever to win the Nobel Prize for Literature,
so that's very exciting. She's best known internationally. You probably
already knew this for her novel The Vegetarian, and that
(07:08):
if you didn't happen to know what The Vegetarian was
about about a woman who believes she's turning into a plant.
So she's a winner.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Now the big what vegetarianism?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I don't know what that is anyways, A big one
is the Peace Prize Tomorrow? Going to work you through
the contender shortly. I did consider turning up on Saturday
to run a special program just so I could have
the Peace Prize announcement, but I'm not going to, which then.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Poses the question, if that's what vegetarianism is turning into
a plant not just eating plants.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Have I got the wrong idea about what cannibalism is?
Oh my goodness, this is way too complicated for a
Friday the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And if you thought that's all we had to say
on the Nobel Prizes today, yes, sare be mistaken.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
To tomorrow's announcement for the Peace Prize. Here are the favorites.
It's a five person committee by the way, if you
don't follow the Peace Prize, made up of the Ministry
of Education from they're all Norwegians, made up of the
Ministry of Education, politicians, scholars, among others. And you can
only be nominated and this might be part of the
problem by select group of individuals. You need to be
a cabinet member, a head of state, a university professor,
(08:14):
or a previous Nobel Prize winner. One of the top
contenders is the OSSEE, the Office for Democratic Institutions and
Human Rights. They work to promote democratic elections across Europe,
the Caucuses, Central Asia, and North America. I write them
off for being boring. Don't want to sound don't want
to sound flippant, but I'm just saying that that's not
really something.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Better, isn't that? What pieces though?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That's exactly exactly Sudan's emergency response rooms. Now this is interesting.
They're volunteers, they've started. These emergency response rooms are basic
things like repairing power lines, providing medical care, food, water
protection for people. Not bad, but not a winner. I
don't think the International Court of Justice. Give me a break.
(09:00):
The International Court of Justice?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
What what do they do?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Tell me how many people they've rounded up and how
many people are in jail because of the Inter National
Court of Justice, the un r WA. Now you'll immediately
say to yourself, hmm, where do I know that name from? Well,
the reason you know that name was in January, the
accusation was made that it was that very agency that
(09:25):
were involved in the October seven attack against the Israelis
or members of that group, so much so that a
large number of countries, including ours, suspended funding. So how
you get that sort of reputation? Then bounce back to
when the Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me, So that's
not going to happen. Contend to number five UNESCO and
the Council of Europe. So UNESCO has been around forever.
(09:47):
I would argue they've done nothing now that they haven't
done previously. Therefore, what's the point sweat Lana see a
naskaya who is sweat Lana. She's the Belarusian politician who's
currently living in exile. She's the one who took on
Lukashenko for the presidency in Belarus back in twenty twenty,
so she's seen there's a bit of a hero, continues
(10:09):
to be a hero. If you live in exile, you're
bound to be a hero, and there'll be a lot
of people who think you're a cool person. Wouldn't rule
her out. Ilham Toti ten year anniversary. Il Ham's been
detained by the Chinese because he advocates on behalf of
the Wigs, and we all know what the Chinese to
(10:30):
think of the wigis. Wouldn't rule him out either. Number
nine Greta Thunburg again forget it, which brings me to
number six. And I was holding off number six until
last because his name is Vladimir Zelenski. And surely if
(10:50):
there's ever been a year in which you've got a
Schuin of schuin's Zelensky, is it so short? Money on
Zelenski followed by Svetlana, followed by Ilham and in my book,
although they've done it differently previously, I would adhere if
I was Norwegian and therefore on the committee, I would
(11:13):
always give it to an individual as opposed to a group.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So we didn't get any university professors on there.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
There wasn't a single university professor this year. I think
the one I think, the one to be fair, I
think the one that Radio New Zealand rang yesterday and
got them to say we should be working less is
bound to be a contender for next year, though, because
that's good work, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I just listening back to that, I realized I misunderstood
what might meant. I thought you could only be nominated
if you were a cabinet minister or a university professor
blah blah blah. But those are the only people who
are allowed to do the nominating. That sounds stupid for me.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's so rewrap.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I speaking of things that sound a bit silly. Wait
to you hear this morning, Mike.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Do you recycle all the paper you screw up on air?
It's funny you should ask. That's a very good question.
I do what I take most of it home, and
I also at home make my own gloves, and what
I do with the paper is that I then do
paper mache sculptures. And if you've never done that, they're
They're quite the thing, and it takes a while to
get good at it. I'm really good at it now.
(12:18):
Some of my early work I've kept at home, but
a lot of it I sell off now for quite
considerable some some of them I go on to paint,
and some of them I go on to simply put
some polyurethane over the edge, and they're outdoor features that
can withstand wind.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And be your best one. Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I think Owed to Life, which was a big piece
of work, and I have it in the in the
country and it greets you as you enter the property.
But it's eighteen feet tall and it was big, so
anchoring it was a problem and it weighs quite a lot.
But it's also aged beautifully.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But yeah, how many mark the weeks do you reckon?
Win into that?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I didn't count. It's a good question because that's the
other thing. I've got to mark the week's sculpture, and
it's called to the marking of the week, and that's
that's a square one. It's controvert. A lot of people
have looked at that and gone, what the hell's that?
And I've gone, well, it's to the marking of the week,
and they go step where they go.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's a bit like the exhibit they threw away by
mistake the other day, isn't it. That's right, yes, because
sometimes people misunderstand exactly what these things are.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So a lot of.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
People, a lot of people think I just you know,
say stuff, screw it up and go home, because I'm
superficial and shallow.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Not so.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I'm an artist.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Then a little while later, after eight, Tim Wilson and
Kay Hawksby came on and both insisted on explaining to
everybody that Mike was only joking about the paper mache.
And certainly, I've always found jokes a much funnier when
you have to explain them, they just get progressively funnier.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
At that point, funny old day. I am Glenn Hart.
That that was the rewrap for what it was worth.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I will now add this to my growing sculpture of podcasts,
and we'll add another one to the pile on Monday.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'll see you then.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, all
the best but from the mic asking breakfast on news Talk,
said B and a Sillier package. I am Glenn Hart
and today we will mark.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The week this Friday, and that is what we do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We've got so much Nobel Prize stuff to talk about
because nobody discusses that as much as we do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
As we've established firmly this week.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And Mike's recycling scandal is unveiled, revealed for any of that,
The census has posed some productivity questions.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Another small gem to come out of the census is
that we are working less. Does that surprise He doesn't
remotely surprise me. I still connect may be foolishly work
with success in the sense that attitude and life is everything.
People with the right attitude tend to be successful and workout.
They tend to get stuff done, They tend to have ideas.
They tend to be more upbeat, more into life, more active.
(01:20):
The malaise that this country's gone through as a result
of COVID is reflected in the various approaches to work
that have come out of it, i e. The fact
we don't like work. We want four day weeks, we
want not to come to the office anymore. We like
the unemployment benefit, we like the quiet quitting. There are,
in fact only two point six million of us in work.
Think about that for a moment. Half the country works,
half don't. That's not a lot of people raise the
(01:42):
money to pay for all the stuff we want. Anyway,
upon finding out that we work less, Good Old Radio
New Zealand who else went straight to the sort of
person you would expect to seize upon our approach to work,
to have them espouse the idea that we should in
fact work less. Yes, they rang some academics, people cloistered
away from the royal world to tell us we should
be working less. Not only did they want us to
(02:04):
work less, they profit the idea that if we work less,
productivity might go up. Ah productivity, the age old debate. Now,
the simple truth is we know we are not very
productive as a country, and we want to improve that.
So we've talked about it literally for decades, and yet
have we improved it? No, we have not, And I
can tell you for nothing, working less does not productivity improve.
(02:27):
There are, of course smarter ways to work. Set the task,
can get it done less mucking around, fewer road cones
and smoke, o's more digging the whole that sort of thing.
I was going to say, I actually like work. Work
is good. You have to enjoy your work, of course,
and for many I think that's probably part of the
productivity issue. If you don't like your job, it's hard
to do more of it. But enjoyment is a choice,
(02:48):
and certainly for most what you do for a crust
is in fact a choice, and from personal experience, if
you love what you do, it's not actually work. And
maybe if we broke the mindset that work as a
problem work is bad, then we wouldn't be as unproductive,
and they might be able to find an academic who
says we should work more because it's good for you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Ironically, and to me today both Mike and I, our
whole day at work is geared towards getting out of
here as fast as we can. That's all we want
to do is do whatever we can as efficiently as
possible and as productively as possible, so we can go
home and whether or not we do more work at home. Ironically,
(03:30):
again is up to us, and we do. But yeah,
that doesn't seem to have that doesn't seem that little
thought that's occurred to me today hasn't occurred to Mike yet.
I wonder if it Deevi will re wrap. He's too
busy to do things like marking the week. He writes
us at home actually and then brings it in.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Time now to mikel the week, little piece of news
and current affairs that's as popular as Taylor Swift tickets
at UK Labor Party headquarters. Nobel Prize is eight. I
mean they can't. I mean they get such scant coverage
here and in a world that has never been more desperate,
I would argue for brilliance and individuality and the celebrations
of the human spirit and achievement. Home ownership eight surely
the hero number out of the census. More of us
(04:07):
own a home. That's not what the rhetoric will tell you.
Speaking of which, the cash rate seven. We could and
we have watchfully rittle about the mess this has been
and is, but there is still no taking away from
the fact that fifty points is the beginning of the
return of better days. The Fed seven That actually is
how it should have been done. No recession, no panic,
minimum carnage. Jimmy Spittle seven, good guy, great athlete and
(04:31):
a very big contribution to the America's Cup, quite possibly
leaving a bit too soon. Fast Track six. Yes, it
is only a list at this stage, but the intent
is important. If this plays an outsize role in getting
the joint humming again, it'll be a good idea well received.
Kir Starmer three. Have you ever seen a politician take
a victory the size of his and cock it up
(04:52):
quite so quickly? Samsung seven my corporate hero of the week.
Now if you missed it, look up their letter of apology.
If more big names acted with that level of honor,
the world would be a much, much much better place.
Ships one two this week with is shoes I mean
one admittedly more serious than the other. But what is
it with this country in ships? Speaking of aquatics the
(05:15):
America's Cup Sex I might be it's sex, Glenn. I
might be wrong. You never can tell, but this could
actually be a contest. The Brits have improved out of sight.
Between the money of Radcliffe and the experience of Angeley.
It might well be quite the show. And the last
one more sex, Sex just doesn't want to do it.
Car sales Sex. After a meaga year, this week's stat
(05:39):
show sales are up. More green shoots. I would have
thought school holidays Sex almost over. Well done. All the
grandparents who did heavy lifting of grandkids who on day
one seemed cute has but by day seven were ungrateful
little snots. That's the week copies on the website, and
every all black was awarded a commemorative colored laminated version
of this to take with them on the Northern tour.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Actually, speaking of that particular running gag, that one right
there at the end of the marking of the week.
We'll have more details on that for you at the
end of therap All right, So, if you've been following
this podcast, or indeed this whole show closely enough this week,
you'll know that we have spent a reasonable amount of
(06:20):
time talking about Nobel.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Prizes, and today was no exception. In fact, it was
the opposite of an exception.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's right, it's Nobel Price time again. This morning we
have literature, and this is where it goes slightly off
peace in the sense that when you're dealing with physics
and chemistry and stuff, or even economics. It's less concept
and more specific than what they've done. Literature tends to
be a little bit different. Hang King is your winner.
She's an author and she has been awarded the prize
(06:47):
for her quote intense poetic prose that confronts historical traumas
and exposes the fragility of human life. She is from
South Korea, and notably, she is the first writer from
South Korea ever to win the Nobel Prize for Literature,
so that's very exciting. She's best known internationally. You probably
already knew this for her novel The Vegetarian, and that
(07:08):
if you didn't happen to know what The Vegetarian was
about about a woman who believes she's turning into a plant.
So she's a winner.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Now the big what vegetarianism?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I don't know what that is anyways, A big one
is the Peace Prize Tomorrow? Going to work you through
the contender shortly. I did consider turning up on Saturday
to run a special program just so I could have
the Peace Prize announcement, but I'm not going to, which then.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Poses the question, if that's what vegetarianism is turning into
a plant not just eating plants.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Have I got the wrong idea about what cannibalism is?
Oh my goodness, this is way too complicated for a
Friday the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And if you thought that's all we had to say
on the Nobel Prizes today, yes, sare be mistaken.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
To tomorrow's announcement for the Peace Prize. Here are the favorites.
It's a five person committee by the way, if you
don't follow the Peace Prize, made up of the Ministry
of Education from they're all Norwegians, made up of the
Ministry of Education, politicians, scholars, among others. And you can
only be nominated and this might be part of the
problem by select group of individuals. You need to be
a cabinet member, a head of state, a university professor,
(08:14):
or a previous Nobel Prize winner. One of the top
contenders is the OSSEE, the Office for Democratic Institutions and
Human Rights. They work to promote democratic elections across Europe,
the Caucuses, Central Asia, and North America. I write them
off for being boring. Don't want to sound don't want
to sound flippant, but I'm just saying that that's not
really something.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Better, isn't that? What pieces though?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That's exactly exactly Sudan's emergency response rooms. Now this is interesting.
They're volunteers, they've started. These emergency response rooms are basic
things like repairing power lines, providing medical care, food, water
protection for people. Not bad, but not a winner. I
don't think the International Court of Justice. Give me a break.
(09:00):
The International Court of Justice?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
What what do they do?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Tell me how many people they've rounded up and how
many people are in jail because of the Inter National
Court of Justice, the un r WA. Now you'll immediately
say to yourself, hmm, where do I know that name from? Well,
the reason you know that name was in January, the
accusation was made that it was that very agency that
(09:25):
were involved in the October seven attack against the Israelis
or members of that group, so much so that a
large number of countries, including ours, suspended funding. So how
you get that sort of reputation? Then bounce back to
when the Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me, So that's
not going to happen. Contend to number five UNESCO and
the Council of Europe. So UNESCO has been around forever.
(09:47):
I would argue they've done nothing now that they haven't
done previously. Therefore, what's the point sweat Lana see a
naskaya who is sweat Lana. She's the Belarusian politician who's
currently living in exile. She's the one who took on
Lukashenko for the presidency in Belarus back in twenty twenty,
so she's seen there's a bit of a hero, continues
(10:09):
to be a hero. If you live in exile, you're
bound to be a hero, and there'll be a lot
of people who think you're a cool person. Wouldn't rule
her out. Ilham Toti ten year anniversary. Il Ham's been
detained by the Chinese because he advocates on behalf of
the Wigs, and we all know what the Chinese to
(10:30):
think of the wigis. Wouldn't rule him out either. Number
nine Greta Thunburg again forget it, which brings me to
number six. And I was holding off number six until
last because his name is Vladimir Zelenski. And surely if
(10:50):
there's ever been a year in which you've got a
Schuin of schuin's Zelensky, is it so short? Money on
Zelenski followed by Svetlana, followed by Ilham and in my book,
although they've done it differently previously, I would adhere if
I was Norwegian and therefore on the committee, I would
(11:13):
always give it to an individual as opposed to a group.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So we didn't get any university professors on there.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
There wasn't a single university professor this year. I think
the one I think, the one to be fair, I
think the one that Radio New Zealand rang yesterday and
got them to say we should be working less is
bound to be a contender for next year, though, because
that's good work, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I just listening back to that, I realized I misunderstood
what might meant. I thought you could only be nominated
if you were a cabinet minister or a university professor
blah blah blah. But those are the only people who
are allowed to do the nominating. That sounds stupid for me.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's so rewrap.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I speaking of things that sound a bit silly. Wait
to you hear this morning, Mike.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Do you recycle all the paper you screw up on air?
It's funny you should ask. That's a very good question.
I do what I take most of it home, and
I also at home make my own gloves, and what
I do with the paper is that I then do
paper mache sculptures. And if you've never done that, they're
They're quite the thing, and it takes a while to
get good at it. I'm really good at it now.
(12:18):
Some of my early work I've kept at home, but
a lot of it I sell off now for quite
considerable some some of them I go on to paint,
and some of them I go on to simply put
some polyurethane over the edge, and they're outdoor features that
can withstand wind.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And be your best one. Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I think Owed to Life, which was a big piece
of work, and I have it in the in the
country and it greets you as you enter the property.
But it's eighteen feet tall and it was big, so
anchoring it was a problem and it weighs quite a lot.
But it's also aged beautifully.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But yeah, how many mark the weeks do you reckon?
Win into that?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I didn't count. It's a good question because that's the
other thing. I've got to mark the week's sculpture, and
it's called to the marking of the week, and that's
that's a square one. It's controvert. A lot of people
have looked at that and gone, what the hell's that?
And I've gone, well, it's to the marking of the week,
and they go step where they go.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's a bit like the exhibit they threw away by
mistake the other day, isn't it. That's right, yes, because
sometimes people misunderstand exactly what these things are.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So a lot of.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
People, a lot of people think I just you know,
say stuff, screw it up and go home, because I'm
superficial and shallow.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Not so.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I'm an artist.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Then a little while later, after eight, Tim Wilson and
Kay Hawksby came on and both insisted on explaining to
everybody that Mike was only joking about the paper mache.
And certainly, I've always found jokes a much funnier when
you have to explain them, they just get progressively funnier.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
At that point, funny old day. I am Glenn Hart.
That that was the rewrap for what it was worth.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I will now add this to my growing sculpture of podcasts,
and we'll add another one to the pile on Monday.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
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