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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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And a very good afternoon. If you have just joined us,
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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This is the Weekend Collective. I'mpton Beverage and this is
the Health Hub and we want your calls and participation
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty And what we're
going to have a chat about today is it's about
keeping exercise simple because the addits, you know, I mean,
if you've done the old daytime TV thing and days
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gone by, you seen everything from different diets and the
Keto dirt to the Atkins dart to the carnivore dirt,
to this exercise regime to the member the old datas
of the ball worker and the chest expander, and then
there's the kettle bells, and there's gym subscription. Then there's
the home gym equipment, you know, another must have exercise machine,
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drinks that replaced your meals, the latest workout at style
or trend anyway that promises to solve all your problems. Anyway,
we just wanted to have a chat and we want
your calls on this as well, on simple exercise, and
we're going to explore this with our guests, and we're
going to introduce them just to tick. But could should
exercise and diet and help living? Should it be simpler
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than we have made it for ourselves? And even those
things I've been looking at the old fitbits and the
watches you can wear which track here, there's ones that
can even measure your O two. They pulse rate, this
is how hard you worked out? And I almost wonder
does that help? Does it complicate things? Should good health
be simple, something as simple as a daily walk and eating.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Good food, whole food?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And why do so many people overlook what seemed to
be the staples of good health and instead of go
for all the expensive trends. Maybe we all need a hobby,
you know what. Fair enough whatever you're into, But anyway,
we want your calls. What simple change have you made
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty or text nine
two nine two? What was the most complicated health thing
you ever got into that either might actually still be
working for you because maybe you know, maybe it takes
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a little bit of effort to actually keep yourself healthy. Anyway,
we want your calls and joining us in the studio
to discuss these things. He is the founder and coach
at body Talk, and his name's Alex Flint, and here
he's looking good. It's I don't know, you look so good.
I sort of think it can't be that simple.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Alex, thank you. Yours made me blush. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, it's funny because you did go, you went through,
you were doing something where you were bulking up. And
you because we've seen each other sort of six eight
weeks apart, and then one day you went from being
sort of this lean, mean thing to being this, you know,
anatomy chart, sort of like the auditionally for a role
in Thaw.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Always setting myself challenges. Yeah, I think that might have
been when I was powerlifting. Yeah, I was competing in
a bit of powerlifting.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean it's this simplicity for you as just having
different challenges, because because you don't stick with the same thing,
you just have different goals, don't you.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
The simplicity for me is having a purpose behind what
I'm doing. So it's one thing to know that we've
got to do some exercise. It's another thing to be
energized and motivated and want to get out of bed
and do it. And so for me, that's chasing down
some sort of goal, which as I get older, the
goals are probably getting a probably a little bit more meek,
you'd say, a little milder, But there's still things that
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make me want to exercise rather than just knowing that
it's good for my health.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, is that one of the mistakes people make is
they think they sort of think I should be healthier
and I need to do this, Like they look in
themselves in the mirror and they think, oh, I've got
I've put a bit of weight on, and they think
they should do this, and they search for a solution
and what they get enticed by. I mean there's a
lot of product and advice out there, isn't there.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
There is just so much, and it's stifling in a way,
you know, wondering what's the right thing for me to
do and I've got all these options, and who's the
right expert? And often you know, paralysis via over analysis
means we just never act or we don't stick with
something long enough to see it through to get some results.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
In fact, would you say that's the key That simplicity
is having a really simple goal. So for myself, I'm
not you know, in my twenties or thirties no longer.
I'm middle aged, and I not through my own experience
so much, but you are aware certain things are not
as easy, maybe injuries come along. And for me, I've
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suddenly realized my simplicity is I got to keep moving
whatever it is. I've got to keep moving every day.
I've got to get out and do something. And I've
simplified that at the moment for me cycling and going
for the odd walk and doing a few little wait exercises.
We can talk about later.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely fantastic way to look at it.
I remember when I very first moved over here from Australia,
I was watching Country Calendar. It soon became my favorite
show on TV. There was something very homely about it,
and there was a farmer on there, and he was
in his eighties down in Southland somewhere, and he said
that we don't get old and then stop moving. It's
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the fact that we stopped moving makes us old. And
that was the reason why he was still on the
farm in his eighties and loving it, loving his manual
labor and getting out there and being out in nature
and doing what he obviously did and loved best. So
I think I think that just adage of do some
movement every day. If we look at what it takes,
it's one hundred and fifty minutes a week, that's it.
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So we're talking probably twenty minutes a day. We can
get into the weeds on what's going to make the
best routine in that one hundred and fifty minutes. But
the first thing is get out of your door, stand up,
put your shoes on, get out and do something. Or
maybe it's inside, maybe you're going to do something in
your lounge ring. But it's just dedicating ten to fifteen
twenty minutes a day. It doesn't have to be longer
than that does.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think that this can be a motivator, But I
also wonder if vanity gets in the way, because if
you are chasing an ideal and plenty of people, I mean,
I know people have transformed themselves because they didn't they
didn't like what they looked at and they wanted to
change what they saw in the mirror. But that can
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also be a tough journey. And I wonder if the
vanity can frustrate because if you don't make progress, you
get where you get tomorrowl I do you get disappointed
and you lose your lose your motivation. Whereas I can
I talk personally. The thing that has kept me doing
it is in the end I feel good. I actually,
in fact, I probably look not much different than the mirror,
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but I look at it myself and I don't hate
what I see so much because I feel better. Even
though you know what, the picture, if you took some
ugly photos would probably still be pretty horrendous from certain angles.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, that's a great point, Tim, I think that vanity
is something.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Obviously, it drives all of us.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
We all want to look better, and exercises related with
you know, looking looking and hopefully feeling better as well.
Probably what's happened over time is who we put on
a on a pedestal and who it is that we're
looking at and saying, oh, they're in great shape. So
therefore unless I look like them, I'm not in great shape.
Really good example, actually last week had a guy by
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the name of Craig done if he's listening today, but
he had lost over the last I want to say,
five months, maybe five killer, not a huge amount, and
he'd come in for his assessment and was I could tell.
I mean, he didn't say it outright, but I could
tell he was a little disappointed that all he'd lost
his five kilos and that was his goal.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So we put him on the scanners.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
We had a look at what he'd done, and in fact,
even though there was only a five kilogram change, which
was eight.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Cents solid, yeah, that's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's an eight centimeter reduction around his waist. But for him,
I think he was thinking by that stage he'd be
ten fifteen kilos up. But he lost eight centimeters around
his waist. But the big things were his metabolic age
had gone from in his seventies to in his fifties. Now,
that was only a five kilo change. So one of
the things that we've got to remember when we exercise
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is so much of the goodness of what we get
is actually invisible.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know. We might feel a bit better on.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
The daily, but it's that regular habit of doing something
which is helping our blood vessels be more elastic, you know,
reducing our blood pressure, giving us more energy. It's not
just all about vanity, although often that is the thing
that we chase.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh look, I'm sure everyone we want to take our
clothes off, we'll still want to look good. Yeah. I mean,
in fact that it does. I was just wondering how
much of it it can get in the way. As
you're saying, he was disappointed by sort of objective measures
as opposed to well you've not twenty years off, you
at a block age.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what, he had a lot
more springing his step when he walked out after knowing that,
you know, automatically.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So yeah, oh good, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay, we want your calls on this. So what you know,
if you've got any questions for Alex around you know,
getting yourself in shape and keeping simple, keeping fit. But
if you've also got any stories you'd like to share
with us about simplicity when it comes to your lifestyle,
you might you might think you've got something we could
learn off because you've managing to keep your exercise habit
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going for and your diet habit maybe going for years
and years, and what was it that actually keeps you going?
Because in the end, surely there's got to be an
element of simplicity to it, doesn't there eight hundred eight
ten eighty text nine two nine two. Let's go to
the calls, shall we and stand by? Bill? Hello?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, cure guys. I'm a seventy three year old with
a congestive lung disease. It's not going to kill me.
It just slowed me down a bit. I'm still capable
of walking, you know, twenty to forty minutes two brisk
walks every day. I can you know, cut split fireward
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for five or six hours, just pacement stuff. But I'm
unable to run, like, I can't sprinter anything. It just
absolutely just knocks me for six And recently I've been
hearing that one to two minutes intense exercise or sprinting
is far better than a twenty to thirty minute walk.
(10:49):
Is this something that's just come on? Or is this
somebody else's brilliant idea of a new exercise raising? Have
you heard anything about this?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Hey? Bill?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, it's when it comes to really getting down to
all right, what's the best way for me to stay fit?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What is you know?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Should I be doing twenty minutes? Should I be doing
two minutes intense? Should I be biking? Should it be running?
There's so much to it, and it really depends on
who you are, what you're doing currently. And then overall
what your body is capable of. So what I would
say is, we know that very high intensity exercise, So
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what you're talking about is sort of often we call
it sit super intensity training or hit high intensity training,
so it things that we just can't do for very long.
It has very very good results on our body for
various reasons. But all of the studies are short term,
So what we know is that it has a very
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good response over about six weeks. But when we look
at it over the longer term, those that maybe continue
with some of that, but also are using longer methods
like you are twenty to forty minute walks chopping wood
will continue to get an improvement which outstrips those that
only do high intensity exercise. So the right answer is
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absolutely if you can put some in, do a little bit,
and you know what, you could actually even do that
with chopping wood.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You could.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
You know, I'm not looking to improve, I'm just trying
to stay steady, you know, I want to keep up
my current level. I'm not trying to body build or
break any records. Yeah, yeah, I want to keep kick consistent.
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, I'd say what you're doing is actually a fantastic mix.
And you know, if you wanted to just try a
couple of minutes of intensity of something, it might be some.
You know, you could even do some push ups or
something like that. Just a couple of sets of hard
push ups a week. It doesn't even have to be
every day. You do that once or twice a week
on top of what you're doing, you'll I think you're onto.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
A real winner already.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Bill, all good stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, okay, thanks for cor Bell. Actually I always think
of he must be on my mind, but because I'm
still blown away by him. But you know John Walker's
former catch charts Jelly, who's now. I think he's around
one hundred and three, and I've seen him being interviewed. Okay,
there must be some gens, some sort of longevity jeans
at play there. But he says, oh, I'm not particularly fat.
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I guess I'm in reasonable shape. I walk around three
kilometers a day, mostly around the retirement village. He knows
how many steps, obviously, because he says four or five
thousand steps. I do three sets of half squats of
thirty a day, and a bit on the gym's exercycle.
He talks about the half squats a bit easy when
you get older. I mean the walking, it does blow
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me away. But that's an example to me. He just
keeps moving as well.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, probably he's a good example of someone who's had
a very high platform at some stage. So if that
advice was given to somebody that had never exercised and
that's all they did, well, it would be a lot
better than never doing anything. However, I think for someone
like him, you know, he's always had a very good
level of fitness, no doubt. Yeah, and so that is
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just a way for him to maintain. However, having said that,
that's you know, people that walk three kilometers a day,
that's a lot of steps, and they put a little
bit of resistance exercise in. He obviously enjoys it, which
is the main thing that otherwise he wouldn't be doing it.
It does not have to be more complex, he says.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I was very fit until I was about ninety two.
I used to run up the stairs.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I'm sure he's still fitter than a lot of people
are half his age.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, let's take some more calls, but and we're going
to dig into the simple activities such as walking and
how beneficial they are to your health. Because ultimately we
all want to be you know, we all have different
levels of motivation, but I'm sure we all want to
be healthy. So what are the basics to it? And
how simple is it in just walking? How effective is that.
We'll dig into that in just a moment, But first, Lola.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Hello, Yes, good afternoon. What a great topic. These so
many people out there are dying to lose weight. What
they need to do is if they're on Amiga sixes,
like oils and margarine, they need to get a blood test.
(15:13):
The last I heard it was three hundred and fifty dollars.
They can get an auntie or a grandparent or somebody
to help them. I don't know how much it costs now.
That was about ten years ago, so it'll be more
than that because it has to be sent away to Australia.
The Amiga six to Omega three should be one, should
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be balanced, It should be the same numbers. And what's
happening when people are putting all this weight on women?
They put it on the back of the backside, low
down and on their stomach and it creeps up the
body and so and the first sign of the Amiga
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six problem is what's at the back of the bottom.
It just sits there and rides up to the way,
so you have a great, big area. And these people
struggle to lose weight because they have to get rid
of the Amiga sexes, which are margarines and oils which
we never had years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Fatty acid balance you're talking about, isn't it. You're talking
about nutrition, then it's it's what you need to change
the nutrition wise, then.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
You and the diet is and so going back to
such fat and butter will help them to strengthen up
all the organs because they are all weak right now,
falling apart, Okay, which is why Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, it doesn't. It's interesting because it does sound like
a complicated solution there to get an expensive blood test
to measure your fatty acid balance of Amiga three and
a mega sex which I have. I'm reading that off Google.
I'll be honest with you, if you just siddenly thought,
God Beverage seems to know he's talking about Alex, what
can you help us with there?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I think that probably, you know, it's more associative than
anything else. If people are eating a lot of processed
foods that have got more Amiga sixers they're probably eating
more fried foods, they're probably eating more fast foods and
things which are just not really in line with good health.
(17:22):
And I mean, one of the things that's just the
biggest part is that ultra processed foods are highly palatable
and we cannot stop eating them, and that it is. Yes,
that's where a lot of those fats exist, but we
can't say that it's the fats by themselves.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Or the issue.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
The issue is that we overeat and we eat too
many calories and a lot of the really processed foods,
which you know, food companies spend a lot of time
with food technologist making them absolutely delicious, it makes us overeat.
Whereas when we've got you know, the majority of our
diets coming through single, single ingredient foods that we put
together make a meal out of, we are satiated and
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we're less hungry when we eat that type of food. So, yeah,
a dangerous road to go down there. It is one
thing that is causing it, because it's really ever the
case that it's one issue.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So okay, if you are walking every day and eating
plenty of whole foods, job done.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
If we sort of take that concept and look back
in time. This is something that I ponder a lot.
I think, okay, so before industrialization, what was the difference,
So did humans live longer? Well, when we got to
the point where antibiotics were invented, that had a huge
change in adult lifespan.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And vaccines probably yeah, probably.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Vaccines as well.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And then after that things haven't got you know, we
haven't had huge extension extensions in lifespan. But what we
have seen is that as a whole, we're a lot
more overweight as a population. And largely that is more
so to do I think with you know, over consumption,
but also lack of exercise. So what has happened through
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the industrialization era is we can basically sit on our
backsides all day. So we've got machines, we've got cars,
we've got computers, so we don't actually have to do
a lot of manual labor. So I think the walking thing,
when it comes down to it, if you think about it,
that's where the seven six hundred to ten thousand steps
comes from. It's actually replacing just the amount of energy
that we probably used to do just washing and walking
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to work or cycling to you know, and doing.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Mentally preparing a meal, the energy used in preparing meal.
I mean, funny enough, as I've banged on about a
bake my own bread, but the action of even eating
bread for so many minutes at a time by hand,
actually you know, yeah, it's just I was thinking, gosh,
this actually uses more energy than I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, so you multiply that out over many many tasks
over a day, and we're just you know, we're just
not active enough anymore. So it is important whether walking
is enough. It's definitely a great you know, if we
look at modern science, well we know that there is
other things that are going to be really important, which
is that we obviously hold onto our muscle mass and
that we have good levels of aerobic fitness, which you know,
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if you do no exercise at the moment, then walking
is probably a great place to start. Is it the
be all and end all? Well, I think we can
long term probably do a bit better, but keep it
simple to get going.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yes, it's great.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Okay, we'll take some more calls in just a moment.
This is News talks a b with Alex Flint. But
what are the simple ways to keep yourself healthy? Is
it too complicated? Sometimes? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty It
is coming up to twenty seven past four news talks.
He'd b news talks. He'd be we're talking about simple health.
It should be Should keeping healthy be quite simple? Is
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it as simple as whole foods and going for a walk.
We'd love your cause. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
just on that, Alex, we're talking about chopping wood and look,
I don't want to make my pet topic, but I've
had a friend of mine who's banged on to me
for ages about kettlebells, and to me it just looked
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like a different sort of fad. But I do do
a couple of kettlebell things, including what's called kettlebell swings,
which looks intuitively you sort of think what's the point
of that, And it's basically like swinging it up with
straight arms up to shoulder height and they'll it swing
back between your legs and you swing it back and forth,
you know, twenty times with sixteen twenty four kilos. I'm
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absolutely bugging after doing those, but it actually feels like
it's had some benefit. I mean, what do you know
about that? Yes, sorry, let me turn your mic on kettlebell.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Is there an example of what we call functional strength training,
So they're probably a little bit more realistic in terms
of everyday activities.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The way you.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Handle the kettlebell, the way you hold on to it,
the way you've got to support your core, They just
lend themselves to being a little bit more like what
we do outside of the gym. The big thing with
them is they can be dynamic in nature, which is
what you're talking about with swinging a kettlebell. So it's
making you know your glutes and your lower back and
your abdominals really have to file when you're when you're
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swinging that, otherwise you know you basically tip over and
topple over in front. So one of the things that's
really great about them is that they allow you to
do some free weight style activity, use a whole lot
of big muscles at once. But also they make you
sort of connect different muscle groups throughout your body to
work as one piece, which is what we basically call
functional exercise. So they tick a lot of boxes when
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it comes to strength throwning.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Because what made me think of it, You talked about
chopping wood, and I in fact, for some reason, the
topic of chopping wood has cropped up a few times
in the conversation recently. But it's I mean it's it's
not asymmetrical. It's a symmetrical exercise at least in terms
of left and right, but which in chopping wood is
slightly asymmetrical. But it's sort of the same vibe, isn't it.
You lift that heavy axe, swing it down with a
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bit of omp and wham.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean you go and watch the wood chopping World Championships.
Actually been to them once when they're in Australia. Those
guys are in serious shape and I don't think they
spend much time in the gym. I mean some of
them might, but you know, like it is. It's another
example of something that you can do.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Lumberjack of the Year. I'm looking forward to that being
your next challenge. I could just see Alex Flint wood chopping.
You've got a trailer reward. Let me come around and
do it for you.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Man, those guys are big units. I'd be a midget
compared to those guys.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right ten eighty. What is your simple exercise habits or
things you've changed that have dramatically improved your health with
the simplicity of them all.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Peter, Hello, Yeah, Hi, chaps, what do you think about
equard jogging and tai chi as part of a regular
keeping foot My knees pretty crook, and I'm the best
way I can seem to keep fitters doing some equard jogging,
tai chi and some some doing some wakes during the week.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, Peter, that's fantastic. You've you've summarized all the things
that you need. So ty chi great as a one
is a bit of a relaxation style meditation exercise, but
also it's fantastic for your balance and.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yep, so that's great. You've ticked that box.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
You're doing a little bit of weights, so you're maintaining
that muscle mouse, which we know is a thing that
drops away as we age if we do nothing about it.
Really important to hold onto that for our independence and
also our immune system. And then finding a way to
do some aerobic style fitness aka your aqua jogging and
not stuff up your joints, which already saw is fantastic
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little story. I remember when I was at university, we
looked at I think she won the silver medal at
the sol Olympics in the marathon, and she had stress
factors and she spent almost the entirety of the last
two months of her training doing aqua jogging because she
couldn't run on the road, and it was still good
enough to still good enough to get her the silver
medal the Sole Olympics. So in terms of its ability
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to work your cardiovascular system, I think you're on there, Peter, Oh.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Thank you very much. Indeed I'll keep going.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, absolutely, Hey, thanks for your col somebody's asked me
what about it is? What about golf uphills? Downhill? Uneven ground?
Of course, then you've got to swing and hit the ball.
And also there's a lot of energy and goes and
swearing when you've got better out abound.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
If you're a bad golfer, it's probably better for your fitness.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You're breaking in the odd club. That is a bit
of energy.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean the amount of steps you do if you
play eighteen holes is more than you need in total
for a day. The up and downhill is great for
leg strength obviously if you're carrying your own bag or
at least got a car. Yeah, pulling it that's again
a little bit of weighted resistance. So it definitely is
you know, it's it's a great thing to include in
your week. Just got to be careful about the nineteenth hole,
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what happens when you get up to the clubhouse and
what you eat afterwards, eat and drink.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And don't let the gulf destroy a spoiler. Good walk,
which is in fact that I think that's one of
the definitions of it. What about somebody said, what about
the farm it? I don't know. I've never heard of this.
What do you think about farmers carry? I usually run
but can't due to sore knees, but can walk comfortably.
I brisk walk with two bloody hell with two twelve
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kilo kettlebells for fifty five minutes. Well that's this guy's
a that's a monster. That's that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Must have incredible grip strength. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So another way that people do it is they will
actually put a weighted vest on so you know you're
spreading the load or another one's rucking, so they put
a backpack.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's a bit of weight in a backpack.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
But yeah, obviously it is making walking a little harder,
giving you a bit of extra resistance.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's quite some feet though. Two twelve killer kettle bills
for fifty four.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Twelve kells is a lot of for fifty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, look, if you can do that, it's absolutely nothing
wrong with that. But there's lots of ways to increase
the intensity of walking. In fact, one of them is
just to put a heart rate monitor on because for
a lot of us, our cadence and sort of your
gait can get a little bit of a doddle, you know,
a little.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Bit too slow.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So if you just pay attention to what your heart
rate's doing, try and keep it over sixty percent of
your max.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It's a really good way.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And then you know you'll start to look at maybe
I need to find some hills or some stairs, or
maybe I just need to you know, walk a little quicker.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And actually heart rate doesn't mean you need to have
the fancy watch. You just need to be able to
take your pulse look out what it is.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, most phones these days have got a heart rate
at on them, which you just literally stick your finger
on the on the camera and really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
They've all got those now, so you just download that. Yep.
So it's very easy.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
But just you know that, or adding some resistance or
some hills, it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
There's also I actually was wondering with the just the
weight that we have, and we should get into whole
foods as well, by the way, in fact, what even
whole foods are. But but I was reading a biography
of just finished reading it, which was a marathon in
its own right. If I was running instead of reading,
I'd be as fit as a fiddle biography of a Napoleon.
But the journeys that his soldiers, thousands and thousands of soldiers,
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they did up to twenty miles a day on these.
That's one of his tactical things was he could move
at great pace, but twenty miles a day carrying gear
and muskets and stuff. But they must there's no way
they were doing it if they were ninety one hundred
kilos a piece.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And one of the biggest things is, especially I guess
because I work with people that are a bit older,
one of the things I see is being heavy when
you're older just does not serve you. And it'd be
the same for those soldiers, like being heavy would not
serve them cutting all that pack and all that gear around.
So just trying to lighten up your body weight is
a great thing. And endurance exercise will do.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That because in fact, we'll get into that afterwards, because
the role of diet and keeping your weight down because
a lot of people assume they're running, they're biking their
weightlifting weights, the weight will just fall off. But we
might have a bit of a chat about that because
it's not always did in the way it plays out,
because sometimes you compensate because you think I've done those weights.
I might just have those four rashes of bacon. It's
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twenty one minutes to five News Talks. HEADB News Talk
said b welcome back to the health Hub. Now we
do have a just it's a slightly sort of a
public announcement, but it's not really it's a public announcement
for one person because we've had a friend of Jeff's
calling and Jeff is driving his wife to the hospital
because she's in labor. And Jeff, this is a message
(29:36):
from your mate. I'm not sure your mate's name is,
but anyway, he's telling you that transmission gully is closed
and you need to head towards the railway lines because
apparently there's a bit of tension around getting his wife
to the hospital who's in labor. Right now, so don't
go through and transmission gallery. Apparently this is the message
I'm being relaid to give head towards the railway lines.
(29:56):
I don't know what that means, but this is a
public service announcement for Jeff and anyone else, well maybe
not anyone else. Just let Jeff do it. Just let
him have the traffic to himself. Okay, there we go. Anyway,
we're talking about keeping fit now Alex Flint from Body Talk.
By the way, if people want to, but you contact
details of people want to. I mean people have seen
you on the media. You've been You've had television shows
(30:17):
where you've helped former sports stars recover their glory days,
all of their glory physiques. Possibly, how do people get
in touch with the Alex.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Best places just to look up on the website body
Talk to que or you find me on social media
as well.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Just look up Alex Flint Fitness.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
What's your favorite social media Instagram?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Facebook. I'm a bit of an Instagram guy.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You're not a tektoker, No, don't even have a TikTok Instagram.
Look from here, you know, and you know you should
be able to recognize him by his magnificent physique. Now,
whole foods. I've had some texts about people talking about
the commercial bread and yeast is not fully grown and
it makes you crave sugars and bread and you know, anyway,
(31:01):
that ties into one of my pet topics. But whole
food what are they and what are they not?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Probably i'd like to preface that we're just saying that
nutritious is Nutrition is probably the most contentious topic outside
of politics in the world. It's just incredible and a
little bit of information can be dangerous, and especially when
we look through things through that almost like through a
microscope or that through the eye of a needle, and
we don't.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Consider the broad, biggest picture.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, So broadly speaking, if we have a diet which
consists mostly of whole foods, so when we're talking whole foods,
we're talking single ingredients at a time which you put
together and make meals out of. So if we think about,
all right, what does that look like with carbohydrates, Okay,
that could be oats, or that could be rice, or
that could be potatoes, or that could vegetable sparkling. Yeah,
(31:54):
and then we think about proteins, So obviously we could
use fish or chicken or meat or eggs, or if
you're vegetarian, things like legumes and then fruit vegetab So
when we base our diet off those types of food,
so they make up eighty percent of our diet. Yeah,
it still gives us room to have things outside of that.
(32:15):
But what we will find is that overall, your energy,
your health. When we took health, we're talking about going
to the doctor, you know, doctors check up and your
body weight will be much much greater.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Is it better? Sorry? Not greater?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Again, it's a chicken and neck. I can't think of
my analogy about you know, half glass full half empty
with whole foods. If you're having a whole food diet,
is it because of what you're avoiding from the processed
food or is it how much of it is what
you're avoiding versus what you're getting, Because if you're eating
processed food, there's a lot of stuff you're getting you
shouldn't have, so you're avoid it baiting whole foods, you
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know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah? Yeah, And here's the contentious issue.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
We love to demonize a certain ingredient like it you know,
it's gluten, or it's a certain type of fat, or
it's a certain ingredient.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's important if you know, unless you're gluten and Toler's
an important protein, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, well it's certainly not one that you know, for
most people I have to worry about. So I think,
you know, the most important thing when it comes to
this whole food topic is that we look at we've
just got to be really trying to base our diet
off fruit and vegetables with some protein, and then all
the other stuff, the process foods. It's not that they're
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inherently bad. It's just that we can over eat way
too many calories and way too many types of ingredients
and in excess don't do so well for our health,
you know. So what I would say is like a
really good analogy to think about this is if you
had two bowls, and in those two bowls, one of
them you had a bunch of colored marbles, and that
bowl represented a junk food diet, so it was just
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all processed foods. And then in another bowl you had
different colored marble, and that was just whole foods. Only
if we got if we got one marble and we
popped that from the health food, the whole foods and
popped it in with the junk food. Would we say that,
all of a sudden, that's now a healthy diet because
we've got one block of health food in that one. No,
(34:15):
of course we wouldn't. But if we go the other
way and we put a few from the junk food
bowl or the processed food bowl over into our healthy diet,
would we say, all of a sudden, that's an unhealthy diet.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
No, we wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
And so here's the thing we for a lot of us,
we suffer from this. I'm going to do everything perfectly.
My diet's going to have no junk, no alcohol, no sugar,
no dairy, no this, no that, And what it turns
into is something which is completely unsustainable. We last less
than a week and then we think, okay, I can't
do that. So we go back to our old ways
where we've just got to find balance. And that's where
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that sort of eighty twenty rule comes in. So if
we can make most of the stuff what your grandparents
would have eaten, that's probably a pretty good place to start.
And then you know, there's still room for some other things,
but it just shouldn't be making up all that we eat.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I should also think. I mean, we always have a
wide range in discussion, even though we st off with
the simplicity idea. But when we were packing up my parents' house,
I saw the old plates that we used to eat
off when we used to have a roast in or something,
and I was surprised how small they were, the plates
that we ate off as kids. And I remember my
memory is having massive meals. But I looked at the plates,
(35:22):
I thought, God, I'd have to load that up to
get what I It's even our crockery isn't helping.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, it's a really interesting point that you look at
super sized meals in the States, fast food everything comes
huge now, and we're going that same way with you know,
takeaways and restaurants. You know, sometimes the greatest things that
you eat you go find dining and they're small, you know,
small meals and you're completely satisfied. It comes out and
I think sometimes that's not enough to fillm me out,
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but then you eat it and it's completely satisfying.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
There's something about actually there's something about the French because
they actually have a diet, which is they have some
fatty foods and things like that, but the portion size
because people are how come the French, you know, they
would make a comment about French not being overweight or anything,
but size is so much smaller as well. The other
as opposed to American diet where it's like, as you say,
you know all you can eat for fifteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, excessive.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
The other one, it's part of the Japanese I'm going
to make a meal of this, but it's roughly hurry
hatchi boo, which means eat until you are content but
not stuffed. And that's that's so there's a really good
book on Okinawan on the Okinawan Way, and that's one
of their mantras is eat until you're content but not
(36:35):
completely stuffed, and that's that's a good way to think
about it. Which a lot of that comes down to
slowing down when you eat, which if you think back
to your childhood, you know you're told to eat everything
on your plate, and if you've got siblings, you're rushing
to get through it before there's nothing left. Very hard
to do as an adult, but slow down and just wait,
you know, let your hunger signals catch up before you.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, that's why I try and say to my kids
as well, because if you have something delicious, it's like,
hang on, just give it ten minutes and then we'll see.
And then usually you're like, oh, okay, I've moved on.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay, right, it's ten to five News Talk SEDB, News
Talk zed B. This is the Health with Alex Flint.
By the way, that public service announcement we made Jeff
was wanting to tell his friend asked if we could
put an nnanncement out for his friend who's taking his
wife to the hospital to have twins, a born and
a girl. Apparently they heard the pit Oh oh sorry,
(37:26):
we don't know if it's bored girl when it's twins.
They did hear an announcement. Have them missed the traffic,
although apparently there are a lot of people who also
following him and his wife because they are also trying
to miss the traffic as well. So it's like a
con it's like a pregnancy delivery convoy. Anyway, we're happy
to help. Hey, I've got a text here Alex on
simplicity saying, oh, all this complicated stuff, it's just you know,
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guys need a bench press and some squats. What do
you reckon?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Well, when it comes to the strength thraining side of things,
I tend to agree we don't. We don't, but we
don't even need a bar, you know, like depending on
how strong you are, if your body weight, you can
do a lot with your body weight.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
We just need to be doing enough of them.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
There's some really good research now coming through for everyday
people that two to three times a week doing one
set too close to sort of as many reps.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
As you can do.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You've had enough of thing.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, So if you're doing push ups, you you do
a set that takes you to the edge of what
you're capable of. So if you can do twenty push ups,
maybe you take it to seventy eighteen or nineteen. You
do that two to three times a week, and you
do that for all your major muscle groups. You get
everything you need out of strength training. So yep, a
squad bar, a bench press, you know, keep it simple.
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You've just got to do it regularly. That's the thing
where a lot of a stumble is we're just not
doing it regularly enough.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
How can I I'll be honest, I've always hated it.
There's something maybe it's about the hor a position. I've
always generally loathed push ups because it just feels like
I'm having to do a whole lot more than just
pushing myself up, you know, because that is the plank thing.
And I don't know, but it's funny. I love the
kettlebell swings and I bug it after them.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, I think one of the things. It's why sometimes
it's good to have someone else helping you out with
your programming, whether you a personal trainer or you know,
you just look online at what other people are doing.
But quite often what we do well to start with,
probably right now, the kettlebells are new, so that's great.
You know, you've got some new stuff that come back
to in a few months.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
But the other thing is we tend to avoid things
that we're not good at. And yeah, so that's saying
the secret you're looking for often lies in the things
you're not doing, and that's quite often the case when
it comes to fitness training. So if you find things hard,
probably that's some things that you should be doing. So
I push ups are hard for you, actually.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But we should finish on the note that we touched
on in our break is that you were saying, and
I think we will all of us relate to this
is that with the simplicity, just get out the door.
And that's the start, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
If there's one thing you do, it's you add up
one hundred and fifty minutes a week of exercise and
break it down over the days.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So that's some days it might be ten minutes, others
it might be thirty.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
But as long as you get in one hundred and
fifty minutes in a week, you're on the right track.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, and you'll start feeling better and then you won't
worry about what you see in the miracus. You'll be
looking at it going the same thing still looks awesome.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Anyway, hey Alex, if you want to catch up with
Alex Flint, look for Body Talk be sorry body when out.
It's that spelled. It's t O r q u E.
And he's on Instagram apparently, so I better start following you.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Alex. Thanks Tim, good to see him, mate, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
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