August 9, 2025 • 39 mins
Principal psychologist at Umbrella Wellbeing Dougal Sutherland joins Tim Beveridge to discuss whether it's ever okay to discipline a child that isn't yours.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, yes, and welcome to back or welcome in to
the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beverage and this is the
Parents Squad. By the way, a little bit of Bruce
Springsteen there. I always let We often let our guests
or if we remember to just choose their theme music.
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And and so my guests suggested he'd like to hear
Born to Run by Bruce Springs. And I said to
my producer, and she doesn't mind me telling you this.
I said, he wants some of the boss Born to
Run And she said, we haven't got it in our system.
And she's like the boss and I was like, no,
the boss is Bruce Springsteen. And I was just thinking
there's a generational difference there because she's twenty four years old.
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And I just assume everyone knows who the bosses. Don't
they do well? Sutherland? Hello, get a Tim.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Nice to be here in person, Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're normally down the line, aren't well comes. There's a
generational shock though, and me just thinking everyone knows who
the bosses, But you would I would have thought I can't.
By the way. I'm taking a bit of fun at Tyra,
by the way, but the number of times I off
Mike will say to Tyra, I have no idea who
this is, and she'll tell me, and I go, oh,
I should know who that is, isn't it. In fact,
I think I said that Ace of Spades was ac DC,
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and as soon as she said motor Head, I was like, Oh,
of course it's Modehead. I know that. Why did I
say ac DC? But here we go anyway, Yes, so yeah, Doogle.
Great to have you in the studio. And now, of
course you're principal psychologist at umbred a Well Being. What
are you in the big smoke? For anything you can
share with us?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, two things. I was speaking at a p dietary
conference this afternoon around how to keep them mentally well
with patrist P dietriists feet in that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because looking at people's feet sort of after a while
grinds you down.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I think it was just because they're humans and life
is stressful. But they were doing all sorts of weird
things with feet and gel and ultrasound before I went in,
So it was quite weird.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Actually, I would imagine that there would be some professions
where there'd be you know, they'd be warding and you'd
be interested. I think think of jobs like GPS and
people who are in an office seeing different patients all
the time, but they're they're not exactly you know, your
location of work. Sometimes it's private and it's not like
you have windows when you're look on the outside world
all the time either because of the privacy of your patients.
(02:53):
That there is a challenge to those sorts of gens.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And a lot apparently a lot of podietrists are in
soul practice, so there's an isolation all you know, I'm
never really seeing people meaningfully during the day. I'm surprised
them you and here, Well, I was here earlier. That's
what I was this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Really, I missed the one for the overnight hosts on
how we keep our sanity. Well watch the space now.
One of the things I want to kick off with
is something we've been meaning to talk about for a while,
but different topics sort of get get away on us.
We never get round to it. But the question around
the behavior of other people's children and is it ever okay?
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And this is for you out there right now? Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Is it ever okay to
tell someone else's kids off? And okay, we can all
put on our grumpy sort of demeanor and imagine a
scenario where you where you'd think it's okay because you'd
love someone else to do it for you. But in
what circumstances would you ever think it's okay to tell
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someone else's kids off? Now? I remember when I was
at we went to the o House ski lodge and
it's it's a lovely We love staying there and dine
with other families, but there are some marauding children and
they they often or clump together because they're they're having
dinner separately. And there was a point where if one
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more child thumps on that piano again, but I didn't.
But there are times sometimes when you think you know
Mum or dad, they've got their back turned. There's a
kid is going around and now Google, is there that
ever a scenario where you think?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I think there's definitely scenarios when it's when it's good
to do Oh good, I'm looking forward to this one.
But it does make me think that you know everybody
wants a village to raise their child, until the village
starts interfering and going, hang on, we don't want it
that much.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I wish i'd set it up like that, it takes
a village to raise a child. Your child.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, well, look, I think that particularly when kids are
not accompanied, so they're by themselves or they're in groups
and there's no other adults around, I think that's pretty
you know, we almost you kind of think there's a
moral responsibility there as people who are in society if
there's kids play chaotically doing things, and you go, actually,
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an adult needs to intervene here and lo and behold,
I'm an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You see. I would find it easier. I think I've
seen some times when you've got maybe a group of
boys being a bit boisterous and someone is uncomfortable next
to them, and I can't remember the scenario exactly, but
I've had a moment where you I've caught the eye
of one of the boys and be like, hey, guys, yeah,
you might want to just call it down. And that
to me is an easy one because there's safety in numbers.
(05:38):
I'm not having a crack. I'm just another older male
going hey, boys, can you you know, just take it
down the street a bit or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, I agree. I think you know, you start off smaller,
kind of the raised eyebrows that, you know, having a
bit of look, catching their eye contact. But yeah, I
think definitely when there's if they need some adult input,
I think it's I think it's almost a moral responsibility.
I think it gets hearier when the other parent is there.
It's like, okay, well I don't well.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And there are times when I mean Mum or dad
they're having an in depth conversation and they've just turned
their back and it's usually, let's be honest, it's probably
a three or four year old Yeah yeah, who've gotten
the no filters and they don't mean any harm, but
they are being a pain in the butt. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, I wonder too about you know, who you approach.
I think I'd be more inclined to go to the
parents in that situation rather than the kid themselves and say,
oh hey, look, do you mind turning it down? You know,
there's old Auntie Maavis here as you know, frightened of children.
I don't know if that's the thing, but you know,
just just going to perhaps approaching the parents rather than
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the children. I think people would probably take more exception
to you telling off their kid when they're child. When
they are right there, it's almost implied criticism of them
as a parent.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I have told the story before, but now we're finally
doing the Now we're finally doing the topic. This is
ages ago and I was in a little cafe back
when I was living over in the North Shore, and
it was me. There are a couple of mums who
are having a bit of a catch up, one who
I think had a newborn and the other one had
a toddler. And there was a guy, you know, three
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meters long, you know, it was just a row of tables,
and he was enjoying a nice breakfast and they are
about three or four people, and the toddler was not
being paid attention to, and he was going around picking
up the salt and paper, sheack of shakers and banging
them and then sort of seeing what they're and then
grabbing a sugar. And he went from table to table
and he got closer and closer to this guy who
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was He was a youngish bloke who was having a
bit of just having a quiet breakfast. And I saw
him shooting a look out the side of his eye too,
and he's getting closer as and here getting closer, and
I could see him. He looked along at Mum, who
was not paying any attention, and the kid got to
his table and was about to start being something, and
(07:58):
he just turned to the child and he went no,
And the kid just was like froze and ran back
to mum. And for me enough, I think Mum sort
of looked, what did I just talked? But then there
was a part of it which is like I'm not
happy with that, but I guess I can understand.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But does it feels dangerous territory? Doesn't it? I think,
particularly when her parent's there. You know, if there's no
other parent there, maybe well and good, But when there's
a parent there, it does. It does feel dangerous. It
feels like am I going to get it in the
neck from the parent who I'm actually stepping in for?
In a way, I think there's an implied criticism of
the parent if you were stepping in for them, And
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that's why I would I would think i'd go to
the parent and say, hey, look, you might not have
seen benefit of the doubt that you that you were
that your child is as up ending all the salt
and pepper and sugar all over the entire restaurants. So
you probably didn't see that, but you might just want
to get him in check.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I must, I was thinking. As he got closer, I
was thinking, please say something, But I think it been me.
I might have leaned over and gone, can you just
help me out here? I don't want to sort of
say anything, but he's yeah, I'm just trying to ye,
you know, yeah, yeah, which is still an implied criticism though,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's less. I think there's ways and ways of doing it,
But yeah, I think that's the danger. It does feel
risky territory at times.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And one of the yeah, of course it's time to
John Cowen and I had to chat about this the
other day. It was sideline behavior. Yeah, and there was
a scrap that involved teachers and I'm sorry not teachers.
Goodness me, what am I saying? But I mean it
was a bit of argie bargie between parents, but also
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I think the students were involved as well, and things
like that, And obviously, I mean that's an example where
you think, whatever bad happens, you don't want it to
happen at all, but yeah, yeah, we want your calls
on this. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty, is it
ever okay to tell off someone's children or to give
them some guidance? And maybe that's the way you do it,
because everyone can. I don't want to be sexist there,
(10:06):
but I'm just going to use the analogy of a
grumpy sort of ourf Garnet who's going, yeah, kids, get
away from such and such. Yeah, yeah, and what context
can you that we'd love your cause? On eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Factor, let's go to Barbara. Hello.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Is that me?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Barbara?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That is that's you?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Hello, I just wanted to ring and say that I've
got a different view. I was in the warehouse and
Farmers North yesterday and I'm seventy five years old, and
I've got a very sore leg and I was hubbling
around the warehouse and there was kids galore, and they
were pushing past me and rude as and this one
little boy, he would have been about I suppose nine,
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and he he was obviously heading somewhere, and he came
running up and he said to me, excuse me, and
he went past very gently, and then he kept on running.
And so I went and found that little boy. He
didn't seem to have a parent with him. I couldn't
find a parent. And I said to him, hey, and
he thought I was going to ground at him, and
I said, up, I just want to say thank you
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very much to you. There's not many little boys your
age will be so excuse me to an old lady
like me. And I said, thank you very much for that.
He said, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Response. You're shaping the behavior that you want to see,
aren't you. And I think that's the idea.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yes, I think, you know, if kids are brought up properly,
they will adapt to it, you know. But the other
kids were just you know, they were pushing past me
and wanting this and wanting that. And I thought, well,
that little boy deserves a good pat.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The nice one that's really good.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Actually, it is such a sort of dance, isn't it,
Because let's face it, no one wants to have to
bother about the sort of stuff of kids are being
badly behavioral, but because sometimes it's just exuberance in the
wrong context. I had a time and it was in
a waiting room once and there was a dad playing
a game with his child, you know, tossing an object
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back and forth, and it did get a bit much,
and I thought, and I thought, I can't say anything.
But all I did was, at one stage, when the
action got a bit close to me, I just looked
up for a second and I just made eye contact
with the dad without any reaction. But it was just
funny enough two seconds of just meeting his eye and
then and then literally doing nothing but going back to
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what I was doing. And he sort of took the
signal that I think maybe we might need to calm
down here, because what I really wanted to say was
can you please stop throwing the body.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's interesting, though, isn't it, Because as you were speaking,
I was going like, actually, maybe we just need to
be more tolerant. You know, three and four year olds
are exuberant creatures, full of life, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean, I know I fallen the doctor's waiting room
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well they might be in pain.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Can you stop being so reasonable? You're to be well,
actually on a minute, to subtle and principal psychologist.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Reasonable.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I just think, you know, maybe sometimes it's good for
us as adults to check ourselves and go, why am
I so grumpy about this?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Does it really matter? Like is somebody going to be
Maybe if somebody was going to be hard like Barbara,
you know who just called, and maybe she was going
to be harmed and fear enough, you say, hey, slow
down their kids. But sometimes kids are just kids, and
maybe we just need to go, wow, okay, unless somebody's
going to die.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, And I think if it's if you think that
other people, it's like when I say, the exuberant teenagers
who are kicking a ball around in front of some
elderly people or something's like, hey guys, do you want
to just move it down? But you do it nicely?
Says just you might want to you know granddad here?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah, you're just alerting them to
the dangers.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Let's take some more calls on this,
shall we? I think we should. We've got the voice
of reason here, the insufferable voice of reason. Google. Right,
let's go Mark good, Here you go. Oh you're in
a very large bathroom. Can you can we divert you
off the speaker phone?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'm sure hang on, but.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We can hear you. It's not not really that much.
Speaker 8 (14:12):
But where you go, okay, I just got a quick
story to relate it, now, can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes? Yes, where you go?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Okay? I just got a story to relate about how
I think sometimes it can pay to be very very
careful about telling telling up other people's kids, especially when
the parents around. When I was just a young boy,
like fifteen or sixteen, only just got my license, and
I used to drive my my grandfather's Anglia about and
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one time I was down a country road and happened
to be going around the corner quite slowly, and there
was a boy on the side of the road who
picked up a stone and threw it, you know, at
the car, and it was quite close, but I don't
know where to hit the car or not, but I thought,
bloody hell, and both the windows, you know, both the
front windows were down and anglier. So I just stopped.
I said, hey, you know, don't don't throw stones at
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the car or worse to that effect. And then next
thing an adult, So obviously the father came out from
the from the gate and came straight up to the
car and leaned into the window window and put his
arm across and basically punched me in the face, and
I see that he was throwing stones at the car,
and the man never said anything, and I drove off
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with my tail between my leggs.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Called the place.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's that's what we feel about.
We fear that we're going to get somehow. It's a
It's a bit of a sad end otment on society, though,
isn't it. Where we feel we can't intervene for health
or safety reasons because we might get punched in the
face like he did. I think that's and I think
that is a fear. I think that is a fear
that people have. Unfortunately, I think it's a reasonable fear.
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As we just heard.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, I would have called the place, but I guess
it's a word of caution.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sorry to interrupt, and I don't want to, you know,
I don't want to talk all the time. But the
only thing I feel when when calling the places are
just going to turn into a bigger thing. You know,
if you live in the same town or whatever, or
you frequent their place, it's just gonna you know, you're
going to aggravate the situation. I feel sometimes it's just
to let somebody down.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I think actually there is also something there mark
is that I don't know if you it is a
heat of the moment sort of thing, as well as
maybe just never react in the heat of the moment,
whatever it is. If some kids have really irritated you
or something, they've done, something silly, dangerous or whatever, probably
checking your emotion and thinking, okay, get a grip to do.
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I need to say something now you're the voice of it,
and then how insufferable of me.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think it's always a good thing, never reacting in
that hot brain, because you're probably never gonna you're always
risk getting it wrong. Just taking that few few seconds
just to calm you.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Say, actually, just before we get to the break. Is
there a psychological trick? But because we do get hackles up.
Our own kids get hackles up and they do something
and you want to and sometimes you do explode. You
do you know, let rep and then you've got repair
and you've got a repair everything.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
But yeah, are there any little Yeah there are. I
mean none of them will work immediately, so people go
in terms of you need to practice anything. If people
will try and go, oh, well, you won't remember to
do it in he at the moment anyway, even but
even literally ten deep breaths, like literally ten deep breaths
in through your nose, out through your mouth, like that's
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it takes actually quite a while, and even five is
probably enough just to buy you some time and just
to calm yourself down, because we know when we get
tense and we get a bit anxious and wound up,
our breathing starts to go a bit funny, and so
just controlling and regulating your breathing and it just allows
you to come a little bit out of that fight
or flight response and into just a little bit more
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wise mind, perhaps a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think even five gets you on that journey.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, it does, it does. So, Yeah, good thing
to practice, though, practice, practice, practical.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He's not on your psychologist. He is the voice of
reason from Umbrella Well Being with Google Sutherland. When can
you intervene? When can you tell off someone else's child,
or when can you intervene in any sort of thing
to give the other to give young people some sort
of input on whether they maybe just need to take
their game of football down the street a bit further,
or whether they need to maybe stop making the noise,
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or maybe I don't know. Shut down the party next door.
That's a difficult one. I think that's when you definitely
need to I just try and find the fuse box.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I can tell you a story about that after the
break if you like.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh hey, he's also indulging in a few teasers for
you after the break with Google Sutherland. It's twenty five
past five new stalks.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
He'd be stop, you can't start, Yes, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This is the parents Squad. My guest is Google Southerland.
We're talking about and what and we're not doing it
from a hot, grumpy talk back point of view. But
when can you intervene in correcting the behavior of someone
else's child, teenager or whatever? And at what stage do
you are you entitled to actually say to the children
or the child? Hey, you might want to think twice
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about that. That stove's hot. Wouldn't be a very good example,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, your health, safety and morals.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right, let's take some more calls Calvin.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Hello, good Earth into both years now. Because of my age,
maybe I can get away with things, but both years
listen closely, and you may decide to take heed. Now,
when I go to the supermarket, I always have a trolley. Yeah,
always have a trolley because it can be I haven't
had to yet, but it can be a good means
of defense. But in a supermarket you probably have happened
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to you. You go it up and down the aisle,
miney owned visits shopping, and then you get a couple
of kids running up and down and around and around
the isle and all that, And I just shared out,
hey stop that you're not this isn't the playground. I
just call that stop. I just call that stop. This
isn't the playground.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Ah are you doing it at a distance so you're not?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No?
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Right? No, right? No, right next to me when the
kids are running right next to me. Yeah, I just
called out, hey, stop that this isn't the playground. Like
what yes?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Right?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Yes, So take heed in the second scenario, why stop
with children? Why not use it for adults? Now? I
go to the movies normally on a Tuesday afternoon, and
there's a couple of signs there, you know, no telephones
and all the carry on. You can be watching the
movie and someone's phone rings or they answer their phone.
The light on the phone goes on and all let
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carry on. And I never I never called out, oh,
excuse me, would you mind turning that off? I don't
use those words. I yell out, hey, turn that off.
You're not at home now.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I think you've got the advantage of experience and wisdom
on your side.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Actually, I wonder is there a sort of get out
of jail free card for Kelvin. I don't know. I'm
not sure. I can't remember how old you are, Calvin.
But if you are three three, where is there a
certain age where if you are an older person you
can just say you can't stop it at Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, you reckon.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
There's something from.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
The magic words, This isn't the playground, and so nobody
can tell you that the supermarket is a playground. So
you're right every time.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think the other people who could probably get away
with it at any age would probably be sporting icons,
like if you were if you were Ardie Severe, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Well, if he told me to stop doing something, I'd
stop doing something.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Actually, you probably and you'd probably be fairly safe that
you were were out of order.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Just so if you're eighty three or the all Black Captain,
you're allowed to tell people off. Is that that's the
that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm going to narrow it down. If you're eighty three
and you're Ardie Severe, I reckon he could Actually I'm joking,
but it's sort of sort of true, you know it is,
don't you? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (22:08):
Jan? Hello, Hi? How's it going?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Not too bad? How you doing good?
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I'm driving around, I'm working, and I'm listening to this,
and I thought, I have to put my ten cents in.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Good on you.
Speaker 10 (22:21):
I'm one of these mothers that wants to grab them
by the collar and you know, shove them in the
rubbish upside down.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And your mind. That's quite that's a useful meta mind.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
To imagine these through though, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
No, No, no, no, anyway, No. Just years ago, I
was at McDonald's with my daughter who was about three
or four, and a friend, and this child comes in
and you could just see he just had it written
over his face that he was just out to distruct
the place. And the father sat down with the coffee
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and put the newspaper up and just buried his head
in the newspaper and listen, all guys go up on
the slide McDonald's, and everyone would attempt to get up
or climb through the tunnels. He kicked, he punched he
and anyway, I thought, just wait, I just sat back
and I thought, yeah, yep, yep. So anyway, my daughter
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gets up there and she comes out of we tunnel
and he wouldn't let her down the slide and he
punched her. Not a hard punched, but he punched it.
I'm like, right, So I went up and I said, listen, mate,
get off the slide. Get get off the slide. I said,
this isn't right. You're hurting kids here. And the little
boy looked at me, and then I went over to
the father and I said, your son is punching and
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kicking other children up on that slide. Could you do
something about it? And I said, my daughter is one
of them. It's not good mate, you're not keeping an
eye on them. And he did. He did. He got
out of his seat and got and got the boy.
But I just thought, you can't sit back, no, you know,
you've got to get up. And that's just one example
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of many raising my kids.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think, actually, you know, there is a difference between
the sexiest. Do you think that the fact that you're
a woman made it easier for you than if it
had been me? Saying, hey, mate, you know.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
It just went on. It was going off for fifteen
twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
But oh, actually I have actually done that. You've just
reminded me there were kids who were oh that's I've
done that at a playground, and not for the same
reason as you jan, but you've just reminded me that
there were boys who were trying to go up the
slide all the time, and there were kids wanted to
slide down. They would think, and I just said, boys,
it's a one way street. Get out of there, boys,
(24:42):
isn't it always boys? Yeah, I'm afraid it is, but
I mean it was I was literally I think that's
a question of safety though, because I just said, boys,
get out of the way. Someone's going to get hurt, okay.
And actually they respond instantly because they are generally just
little kids, aren't.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
They look health safety morals taken by the father? Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
And I imagine there was a s don.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
Looked up and down thoughts, She'll be right, mate. He
could see what the sun was doing because another couple
of mothers had gone and removed their children. And I'm
like he just was so oblivious.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Thought it's almost telling off the parents not telling off
the kids, isn't it?
Speaker 10 (25:20):
Yeah? You je, so that's why.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, But anyway, that's we've en George ten cents and
it's funny. I was trying to think of other times
I do remember, but it was just a question of safety.
It's like boys, you know, and you that's the thing.
It's boys, you know, because it's not just one little
boy you got up to. Its boys, Hey, boys, and
it's another male in boys. And there was something about
(25:42):
that that there that it's a bit like, you know,
just the males within communities taking responsibility. If in collection
of boys behaving badly, it seems that that's sort of
almost desirable, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I can I tell you a story about when we
wanted yes the teaser, Yes, the teaser. Well, I'll try
to make a long story short. We were at a
concert Indoneda and now son was sixteen, and he had
made at home perhaps that was a first mistake, and
he had actually wanted to go to the concert initially
and then changed his mind. And I said, I don't
really want to go, but I'll go just because we've
got the ticket in mine as well. Halfway through the concert,
(26:16):
I got a call from our neighbor. She said, did
you know that there's a party on it your place
next door? And there are people on the roof. We
went what look, Luckily we had we had in our village,
some great friends who lived two streets down the road.
We rang them and he's a school teacher. So high
school teacher done. He came round, knocked on the door
(26:39):
and said, hey, you've got ten minutes to clear this out,
otherwise the police are coming, and as quick as that boom,
they were gone. But that's when we wanted and needed
another parent to step in for us. So it was
it was great, It was great.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We really, hey, what consequences?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That was the consequence the fact and I came home
steaming the next day, but that we didn't need to
have any consequences. That was the That was the biggest
how I'll tell you the house was pristine, absolutely prestine
the next day.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Actually that resonates, but I seem to remember my mum
coming home and going through the grog, I think, and
going through the grog coveting go. Now they've cleaned. Then
one of my brothers paid a price for that. I think.
A fantastic good story.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, but that's what we wanted, the village. We needed
the village.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
In fact, that was the right that was probably the
right thing to do. So you got a call from
someone so from our neighbor.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So our neighbor was sort of checking.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I wouldn't have minded of our neighbor had gone next
door herself and said, hey, you know you shouldn't be
having this. But but you know, she let us know,
and we wouldn't have wanted that to happen. So we
were able to activate our village and it was great.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That's another good, good reason to also be friendly with
your neighbors. Got your number and we'll be back in
just to take great story. Thank you for that. Google
The Voice of Reason, the Voice of the feisty.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Fart title, isn't it the Voice of Reason?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I go, we'll be back and just to tick, we've
got some callers holding and we'll be back in the
moment this news talks, he'd be twenty two minutes to
six news talks. Here'd be with Tim Bevere. Now we're
talking about telling how the people's kids off. I've got
to tell you something funny that just happened. Now, So
Tyra's just taking a call from someone who says there
was a time when they went out or something and
there was a He was saying that that we got
back in the kids. All the furniture was in the
(28:27):
pool and things, and he was telling about what had happened,
and he said it was back in twenty sixteen, and
Tyra says, was that in howick? And he goes, yes,
it wasn't It turns out that Tyra were you were
you the culprit, Tyr or just someone who was there?
She was, she was just present at that party. But
isn't that a small world? It's like, there's kids that
furniture ended up in the poll and I was like,
(28:48):
it wasn't how it was? It? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It was?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So the caller decided not to come on here.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
How widely spread news talks he'd be listening.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
To, isn't it fantastic? But by the way, just on
the safety thing, somebody says, as a police officer, I've
attended a number of assaults when people told off poorly
behaved kids to be attacked by the parents. So you
really have to read it. Read the room up to
a point. And another one says some people do have
a superpower. This guy says, I'm six foot two, I'm
built like the proverbial. If ye'll stop, everyone stops. Kids,
(29:17):
an oults, I'm only fifty, but I've been a grumpy
old man since i was eighteen, and I've always been
able to make others stop. And that's possibly this Darren's superpower.
Take some more calls, Beryl, Hello.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hill An, Listen, guys, I'm not inhibited or politically creeped
like you two way for biscuits.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's coming in from a long run up, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Lovely? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I do believe that you've got to read the situation
at the time. But if I get two year olds
or three year ods crashing into me running around the supermarket,
I just say, just be careful please, And generally their
parents look at them as they're close by and tick
them off. But this is what happened yesterday to me,
these parents that let their kids run around with a
(30:09):
cart and another child was underneath this cart and they
crashed right into my back and it was really sore,
and I've got to saw that. So I turned around
and I said, listen, you brat, you go a bit
slower and wish your parents and anyway, the parents did
show up, but there are a lot of people around,
(30:30):
and the parents did shot, didn't say anything to me,
but ticked the kid off. So in all cases so
far with me, I've had the parents when they've heard
me talking, tick the child off. But like I said,
I'm not down on kids that accidentally crash into me
running around the supermarket and don't hurt me. But that
cart with the child running around and another child underneath,
(30:53):
which the supermarket always telling you shouldn't do, really hurt
and boy that that kid hear my voice and got
quite a shop. And the parents came told the child off,
but there were plenty of people around, had they try
to attack me. But I do believe you should actually
read read the room before you do that. But I
was in such shocked.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes, you know you just reacted, Barrel. Actually, to be honest,
that's quite understandable.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Health safety morals. I think any of those are good ground,
and it's a shame that we have to worry about
the consequences. I think of being attacked or assaulted by
an adult if you're trying to do the right thing,
but you appreciate that it happens.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean I think that's I mean, if you're taking
away with them at this hour, it is probably the
count ten sort of thing, because you know, because if
you just react instantly and emotionally, you might not read
the room first, and that can lead to you know.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, you could say something that you end up regretting.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, actually something texted saying people get more upset if
you growl at their dog than their kids. These days,
we're saying that for the peason, we'll say that for
the pet squad. A new hour to be invented on
news talks. He'd be not a bad idea. Anyway. Let's
go to Morris Hello, let's I.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Had an incident at the local pub. I went down
one Sunday afternoon to watch a horse race in Hong Kong,
and this kid was running around just screaming at the
top of his voises in a bar and a restaurants, screaming,
and then he started throwing stuff for people. Mum and
mum and granddad were happy. Just left them alone. They
were watching the live music. Left the kid alone. Other
(32:32):
people would take it back. Just carried on for two hours.
That'd body beat there for two hours and the kid
was there for four and a half hours, and in
the end I grabbed were they pointed him from a
little tickle on the bum and he'd sit down in
their seat and shut up. I'm over it. So he
went immediately and sat down.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It don't do it these days, Morris.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So you find this is only six months ago?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
What?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
What happened? Then? What happened?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Then the mother got up and paid attention to the kittens,
outed squeezing because I'm a bit of olives and marry you,
said any black sarenta men't and she screamed at the
top of a voice. Anyway, everyone saw what happened. Everyone
wanted to do what I did, but no one did
right anyway. They went to the bar trying to get
him to dial one one one no one. Everyone just
(33:21):
said she died one one one, or her father died
one one after he tried to assault me. They died
one one one, and his son has been severely beaten
in the hotel. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
The cops come everything.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So I left.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
The girl said I got to miss the raised water
bugget okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let's just keep it nice and turned down because of
his father in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Anyway, and so I left and then got a phone
called a couple of days later because they knew who
it was and they told the police in orders of it.
He wrung me up and he said, oh, we want
to have a word with you, and I said, well,
before you, we'd go and have a look at the video.
He wented out a look at the video and it
was act. She was actually a Chinese coup. But he said,
I don't know why I'm talking to you. He said,
(33:59):
what have you done? And he said the reason that
is the literal LA says this. I had no choice,
so this could be a warning.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh well, good I Morris. That was It's a bit
worried we're going to a colorful with that one. But
I would say that, well, look, I.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Think difficult to lay your hands on other people's.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Care very I would I would avoid that like the plague,
and so we wouldn't care. But thank you for the
entertaining story, Morris, even though I did have my my
finger near the dump button there, But thanks for you. Mate. Ian. Hello,
he's good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
I had and yesterday I'm a middle age man behaving badly.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
And is there anything to do with kids, no bad.
Oh yeah, well it's probably not relevant to the parents
squad though, But if this gets more into just confrontation,
so we might we might, we we might actually we
might leave that one there. But actually it's funny. Here's
(34:59):
there's here's one here. Somebody says, I'm oh, this is
an interesting one between friends.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Somebody says, I know two couples had been friends for
years but haven't spoken because one parent told the other's
child off.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
My experience has been the opposite that I'd be much
more inclined to lit my and want my friends to
tell my kids off if they were not bathing well,
because I think often your friends have got pretty similar
kind of values. I think. So, yeah, that's interesting. That
is an interesting one storied a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Because I would, in fact usually look, I can't imagine
if I've ever had to offer words of advice, but
I might say, if the girls, you know, have friends
around and they're being a bit noisy, I might just
knock on the door and then just say, guys, can
we just be a bit quiet? But I'm talking to
all of them, and I'll make eye contact with my daughter,
and it's towards her, but the other ones actually they're
(35:55):
always really well behaved.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I'm sure they are great genes and it meant and
breeding my children.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But I think no. I mean, if you've the kids
are respectful, so you literally just need.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
To appear in your house, different sort of different thing too, right,
if it's in your place. If it's in your house,
it's your rules.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It's when it's in a public setting that I think
we start there's a clash of values. I think sometimes
it's like some people don't think that's wrong and other
people do, and I think that's yeah interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I think that there's probably some detail missing from
that story, depending on how stern the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, well we could go back and look at the
video ourselves.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Somebody's just texted saying, well, you too, are as woke
as it gets. Actually, I'm sorry, I am not woke.
I'm just pushing back against that. And I don't think
Google's woke either. I think we're just sensible.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah about the wakness around. Maybe it's because we're being
polite when we when we say to other parents, could
you sort your kids out? Rather than just yelling at them.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I don't know, waiting in I mean as we've heard
from Calvin. We heard Calvin, he's just as the superpower,
being eighty two years old. You can go get cats,
cut it out there, and that's fine. Probably when you're
you know, sort of middle aged, sort of I don't know,
ordinary sort of milk kind of guys, milk kind of guys. You'
And another person says some have it easier than others.
(37:22):
I'm large bespectacle. I'm just trying to I'm large bespectacled,
sparkling eyes, large red cheeked, and with a large white
beard as a Santa Claus. I was in a local
Supermark when I heard two young boys arguing. The mum
looked close to tears. I just leaned over the intervening
freezers and asked, where where where I'm not sure read
(37:45):
this where the Black Peter should deliver their coal? Must
have been it Christmas time. This must be a joke
about things looking like I did. I did look like
Santa Laus. Mum looked a bit amused, confused, and then
started to smile and sounds nice, I think probably if
you can use a sense of humor in that situation. Well,
(38:05):
have we learned anything today.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Google, Well, we're apparently we're incredibly woke. That's what I've leaved.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It's not not an a casation that gets thrown at
me very often.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Well, there you go the first time for everything.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I think it's a great I think it's a really
interesting debate. And and and when when is it okay?
You know, we all we all believe all year it
takes a village to raise a kid. But until the
village starts interfering with your parenting and it's like, hang
on a minute. I didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I did love the guy the parent with you when
your son was having a party. You've got ten minutes
and the police, police coming. It was great, brilliant. Great
to see Google, Yeah, lovely.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
To be here in person was great.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And if people want to check out your website and
your company, Umbrella.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
The Voice of Reason dot com. No, that's a little
bit a new one coming Umbrella dot org dot ens
there people to check. It's probably a website.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Called dad anyone must be taken.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Don't go there.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
No, okay, mate, thanks so much. The sports Rapper is next.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's a dress, it's a suicide. We gotta get up
goos trance like us.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, yes, and welcome to back or welcome in to
the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beverage and this is the
Parents Squad. By the way, a little bit of Bruce
Springsteen there. I always let We often let our guests
or if we remember to just choose their theme music.
(00:59):
And and so my guests suggested he'd like to hear
Born to Run by Bruce Springs. And I said to
my producer, and she doesn't mind me telling you this.
I said, he wants some of the boss Born to
Run And she said, we haven't got it in our system.
And she's like the boss and I was like, no,
the boss is Bruce Springsteen. And I was just thinking
there's a generational difference there because she's twenty four years old.
(01:21):
And I just assume everyone knows who the bosses. Don't
they do well? Sutherland? Hello, get a Tim.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Nice to be here in person, Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're normally down the line, aren't well comes. There's a
generational shock though, and me just thinking everyone knows who
the bosses, But you would I would have thought I can't.
By the way. I'm taking a bit of fun at Tyra,
by the way, but the number of times I off
Mike will say to Tyra, I have no idea who
this is, and she'll tell me, and I go, oh,
I should know who that is, isn't it. In fact,
I think I said that Ace of Spades was ac DC,
(01:53):
and as soon as she said motor Head, I was like, Oh,
of course it's Modehead. I know that. Why did I
say ac DC? But here we go anyway, Yes, so yeah, Doogle.
Great to have you in the studio. And now, of
course you're principal psychologist at umbred a Well Being. What
are you in the big smoke? For anything you can
share with us?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, two things. I was speaking at a p dietary
conference this afternoon around how to keep them mentally well
with patrist P dietriists feet in that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because looking at people's feet sort of after a while
grinds you down.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I think it was just because they're humans and life
is stressful. But they were doing all sorts of weird
things with feet and gel and ultrasound before I went in,
So it was quite weird.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Actually, I would imagine that there would be some professions
where there'd be you know, they'd be warding and you'd
be interested. I think think of jobs like GPS and
people who are in an office seeing different patients all
the time, but they're they're not exactly you know, your
location of work. Sometimes it's private and it's not like
you have windows when you're look on the outside world
all the time either because of the privacy of your patients.
(02:53):
That there is a challenge to those sorts of gens.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And a lot apparently a lot of podietrists are in
soul practice, so there's an isolation all you know, I'm
never really seeing people meaningfully during the day. I'm surprised
them you and here, Well, I was here earlier. That's
what I was this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Really, I missed the one for the overnight hosts on
how we keep our sanity. Well watch the space now.
One of the things I want to kick off with
is something we've been meaning to talk about for a while,
but different topics sort of get get away on us.
We never get round to it. But the question around
the behavior of other people's children and is it ever okay?
(03:32):
And this is for you out there right now? Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Is it ever okay to
tell someone else's kids off? And okay, we can all
put on our grumpy sort of demeanor and imagine a
scenario where you where you'd think it's okay because you'd
love someone else to do it for you. But in
what circumstances would you ever think it's okay to tell
(03:56):
someone else's kids off? Now? I remember when I was
at we went to the o House ski lodge and
it's it's a lovely We love staying there and dine
with other families, but there are some marauding children and
they they often or clump together because they're they're having
dinner separately. And there was a point where if one
(04:17):
more child thumps on that piano again, but I didn't.
But there are times sometimes when you think you know
Mum or dad, they've got their back turned. There's a
kid is going around and now Google, is there that
ever a scenario where you think?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I think there's definitely scenarios when it's when it's good
to do Oh good, I'm looking forward to this one.
But it does make me think that you know everybody
wants a village to raise their child, until the village
starts interfering and going, hang on, we don't want it
that much.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I wish i'd set it up like that, it takes
a village to raise a child. Your child.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, well, look, I think that particularly when kids are
not accompanied, so they're by themselves or they're in groups
and there's no other adults around, I think that's pretty
you know, we almost you kind of think there's a
moral responsibility there as people who are in society if
there's kids play chaotically doing things, and you go, actually,
(05:14):
an adult needs to intervene here and lo and behold,
I'm an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You see. I would find it easier. I think I've
seen some times when you've got maybe a group of
boys being a bit boisterous and someone is uncomfortable next
to them, and I can't remember the scenario exactly, but
I've had a moment where you I've caught the eye
of one of the boys and be like, hey, guys, yeah,
you might want to just call it down. And that
to me is an easy one because there's safety in numbers.
(05:38):
I'm not having a crack. I'm just another older male
going hey, boys, can you you know, just take it
down the street a bit or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, I agree. I think you know, you start off smaller,
kind of the raised eyebrows that, you know, having a
bit of look, catching their eye contact. But yeah, I
think definitely when there's if they need some adult input,
I think it's I think it's almost a moral responsibility.
I think it gets hearier when the other parent is there.
It's like, okay, well I don't well.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And there are times when I mean Mum or dad
they're having an in depth conversation and they've just turned
their back and it's usually, let's be honest, it's probably
a three or four year old Yeah yeah, who've gotten
the no filters and they don't mean any harm, but
they are being a pain in the butt. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, I wonder too about you know, who you approach.
I think I'd be more inclined to go to the
parents in that situation rather than the kid themselves and say,
oh hey, look, do you mind turning it down? You know,
there's old Auntie Maavis here as you know, frightened of children.
I don't know if that's the thing, but you know,
just just going to perhaps approaching the parents rather than
(06:44):
the children. I think people would probably take more exception
to you telling off their kid when they're child. When
they are right there, it's almost implied criticism of them
as a parent.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I have told the story before, but now we're finally
doing the Now we're finally doing the topic. This is
ages ago and I was in a little cafe back
when I was living over in the North Shore, and
it was me. There are a couple of mums who
are having a bit of a catch up, one who
I think had a newborn and the other one had
a toddler. And there was a guy, you know, three
(07:16):
meters long, you know, it was just a row of tables,
and he was enjoying a nice breakfast and they are
about three or four people, and the toddler was not
being paid attention to, and he was going around picking
up the salt and paper, sheack of shakers and banging
them and then sort of seeing what they're and then
grabbing a sugar. And he went from table to table
and he got closer and closer to this guy who
(07:37):
was He was a youngish bloke who was having a
bit of just having a quiet breakfast. And I saw
him shooting a look out the side of his eye too,
and he's getting closer as and here getting closer, and
I could see him. He looked along at Mum, who
was not paying any attention, and the kid got to
his table and was about to start being something, and
(07:58):
he just turned to the child and he went no,
And the kid just was like froze and ran back
to mum. And for me enough, I think Mum sort
of looked, what did I just talked? But then there
was a part of it which is like I'm not
happy with that, but I guess I can understand.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But does it feels dangerous territory? Doesn't it? I think,
particularly when her parent's there. You know, if there's no
other parent there, maybe well and good, But when there's
a parent there, it does. It does feel dangerous. It
feels like am I going to get it in the
neck from the parent who I'm actually stepping in for?
In a way, I think there's an implied criticism of
the parent if you were stepping in for them, And
(08:41):
that's why I would I would think i'd go to
the parent and say, hey, look, you might not have
seen benefit of the doubt that you that you were
that your child is as up ending all the salt
and pepper and sugar all over the entire restaurants. So
you probably didn't see that, but you might just want
to get him in check.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I must, I was thinking. As he got closer, I
was thinking, please say something, But I think it been me.
I might have leaned over and gone, can you just
help me out here? I don't want to sort of
say anything, but he's yeah, I'm just trying to ye,
you know, yeah, yeah, which is still an implied criticism though,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's less. I think there's ways and ways of doing it,
But yeah, I think that's the danger. It does feel
risky territory at times.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And one of the yeah, of course it's time to
John Cowen and I had to chat about this the
other day. It was sideline behavior. Yeah, and there was
a scrap that involved teachers and I'm sorry not teachers.
Goodness me, what am I saying? But I mean it
was a bit of argie bargie between parents, but also
(09:44):
I think the students were involved as well, and things
like that, And obviously, I mean that's an example where
you think, whatever bad happens, you don't want it to
happen at all, but yeah, yeah, we want your calls
on this. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty, is it
ever okay to tell off someone's children or to give
them some guidance? And maybe that's the way you do it,
because everyone can. I don't want to be sexist there,
(10:06):
but I'm just going to use the analogy of a
grumpy sort of ourf Garnet who's going, yeah, kids, get
away from such and such. Yeah, yeah, and what context
can you that we'd love your cause? On eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Factor, let's go to Barbara. Hello.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Is that me?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Barbara?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That is that's you?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Hello, I just wanted to ring and say that I've
got a different view. I was in the warehouse and
Farmers North yesterday and I'm seventy five years old, and
I've got a very sore leg and I was hubbling
around the warehouse and there was kids galore, and they
were pushing past me and rude as and this one
little boy, he would have been about I suppose nine,
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and he he was obviously heading somewhere, and he came
running up and he said to me, excuse me, and
he went past very gently, and then he kept on running.
And so I went and found that little boy. He
didn't seem to have a parent with him. I couldn't
find a parent. And I said to him, hey, and
he thought I was going to ground at him, and
I said, up, I just want to say thank you
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very much to you. There's not many little boys your
age will be so excuse me to an old lady
like me. And I said, thank you very much for that.
He said, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Response. You're shaping the behavior that you want to see,
aren't you. And I think that's the idea.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yes, I think, you know, if kids are brought up properly,
they will adapt to it, you know. But the other
kids were just you know, they were pushing past me
and wanting this and wanting that. And I thought, well,
that little boy deserves a good pat.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The nice one that's really good.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Actually, it is such a sort of dance, isn't it,
Because let's face it, no one wants to have to
bother about the sort of stuff of kids are being
badly behavioral, but because sometimes it's just exuberance in the
wrong context. I had a time and it was in
a waiting room once and there was a dad playing
a game with his child, you know, tossing an object
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back and forth, and it did get a bit much,
and I thought, and I thought, I can't say anything.
But all I did was, at one stage, when the
action got a bit close to me, I just looked
up for a second and I just made eye contact
with the dad without any reaction. But it was just
funny enough two seconds of just meeting his eye and
then and then literally doing nothing but going back to
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what I was doing. And he sort of took the
signal that I think maybe we might need to calm
down here, because what I really wanted to say was
can you please stop throwing the body.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's interesting, though, isn't it, Because as you were speaking,
I was going like, actually, maybe we just need to
be more tolerant. You know, three and four year olds
are exuberant creatures, full of life, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean, I know I fallen the doctor's waiting room
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well they might be in pain.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Can you stop being so reasonable? You're to be well,
actually on a minute, to subtle and principal psychologist.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Reasonable.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I just think, you know, maybe sometimes it's good for
us as adults to check ourselves and go, why am
I so grumpy about this?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Does it really matter? Like is somebody going to be
Maybe if somebody was going to be hard like Barbara,
you know who just called, and maybe she was going
to be harmed and fear enough, you say, hey, slow
down their kids. But sometimes kids are just kids, and
maybe we just need to go, wow, okay, unless somebody's
going to die.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, And I think if it's if you think that
other people, it's like when I say, the exuberant teenagers
who are kicking a ball around in front of some
elderly people or something's like, hey guys, do you want
to just move it down? But you do it nicely?
Says just you might want to you know granddad here?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah, you're just alerting them to
the dangers.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Let's take some more calls on this,
shall we? I think we should. We've got the voice
of reason here, the insufferable voice of reason. Google. Right,
let's go Mark good, Here you go. Oh you're in
a very large bathroom. Can you can we divert you
off the speaker phone?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'm sure hang on, but.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We can hear you. It's not not really that much.
Speaker 8 (14:12):
But where you go, okay, I just got a quick
story to relate it, now, can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes? Yes, where you go?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Okay? I just got a story to relate about how
I think sometimes it can pay to be very very
careful about telling telling up other people's kids, especially when
the parents around. When I was just a young boy,
like fifteen or sixteen, only just got my license, and
I used to drive my my grandfather's Anglia about and
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one time I was down a country road and happened
to be going around the corner quite slowly, and there
was a boy on the side of the road who
picked up a stone and threw it, you know, at
the car, and it was quite close, but I don't
know where to hit the car or not, but I thought,
bloody hell, and both the windows, you know, both the
front windows were down and anglier. So I just stopped.
I said, hey, you know, don't don't throw stones at
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the car or worse to that effect. And then next
thing an adult, So obviously the father came out from
the from the gate and came straight up to the
car and leaned into the window window and put his
arm across and basically punched me in the face, and
I see that he was throwing stones at the car,
and the man never said anything, and I drove off
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with my tail between my leggs.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Called the place.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's that's what we feel about.
We fear that we're going to get somehow. It's a
It's a bit of a sad end otment on society, though,
isn't it. Where we feel we can't intervene for health
or safety reasons because we might get punched in the
face like he did. I think that's and I think
that is a fear. I think that is a fear
that people have. Unfortunately, I think it's a reasonable fear.
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As we just heard.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, I would have called the place, but I guess
it's a word of caution.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sorry to interrupt, and I don't want to, you know,
I don't want to talk all the time. But the
only thing I feel when when calling the places are
just going to turn into a bigger thing. You know,
if you live in the same town or whatever, or
you frequent their place, it's just gonna you know, you're
going to aggravate the situation. I feel sometimes it's just
to let somebody down.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I think actually there is also something there mark
is that I don't know if you it is a
heat of the moment sort of thing, as well as
maybe just never react in the heat of the moment,
whatever it is. If some kids have really irritated you
or something, they've done, something silly, dangerous or whatever, probably
checking your emotion and thinking, okay, get a grip to do.
(16:43):
I need to say something now you're the voice of it,
and then how insufferable of me.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think it's always a good thing, never reacting in
that hot brain, because you're probably never gonna you're always
risk getting it wrong. Just taking that few few seconds
just to calm you.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Say, actually, just before we get to the break. Is
there a psychological trick? But because we do get hackles up.
Our own kids get hackles up and they do something
and you want to and sometimes you do explode. You
do you know, let rep and then you've got repair
and you've got a repair everything.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
But yeah, are there any little Yeah there are. I
mean none of them will work immediately, so people go
in terms of you need to practice anything. If people
will try and go, oh, well, you won't remember to
do it in he at the moment anyway, even but
even literally ten deep breaths, like literally ten deep breaths
in through your nose, out through your mouth, like that's
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it takes actually quite a while, and even five is
probably enough just to buy you some time and just
to calm yourself down, because we know when we get
tense and we get a bit anxious and wound up,
our breathing starts to go a bit funny, and so
just controlling and regulating your breathing and it just allows
you to come a little bit out of that fight
or flight response and into just a little bit more
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wise mind, perhaps a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think even five gets you on that journey.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, it does, it does. So, Yeah, good thing
to practice, though, practice, practice, practical.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He's not on your psychologist. He is the voice of
reason from Umbrella Well Being with Google Sutherland. When can
you intervene? When can you tell off someone else's child,
or when can you intervene in any sort of thing
to give the other to give young people some sort
of input on whether they maybe just need to take
their game of football down the street a bit further,
or whether they need to maybe stop making the noise,
(18:27):
or maybe I don't know. Shut down the party next door.
That's a difficult one. I think that's when you definitely
need to I just try and find the fuse box.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I can tell you a story about that after the
break if you like.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh hey, he's also indulging in a few teasers for
you after the break with Google Sutherland. It's twenty five
past five new stalks.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
He'd be stop, you can't start, Yes, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This is the parents Squad. My guest is Google Southerland.
We're talking about and what and we're not doing it
from a hot, grumpy talk back point of view. But
when can you intervene in correcting the behavior of someone
else's child, teenager or whatever? And at what stage do
you are you entitled to actually say to the children
or the child? Hey, you might want to think twice
(19:23):
about that. That stove's hot. Wouldn't be a very good example,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, your health, safety and morals.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right, let's take some more calls Calvin.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Hello, good Earth into both years now. Because of my age,
maybe I can get away with things, but both years
listen closely, and you may decide to take heed. Now,
when I go to the supermarket, I always have a trolley. Yeah,
always have a trolley because it can be I haven't
had to yet, but it can be a good means
of defense. But in a supermarket you probably have happened
(19:54):
to you. You go it up and down the aisle,
miney owned visits shopping, and then you get a couple
of kids running up and down and around and around
the isle and all that, And I just shared out,
hey stop that you're not this isn't the playground. I
just call that stop. I just call that stop. This
isn't the playground.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Ah are you doing it at a distance so you're not?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No?
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Right? No, right? No, right next to me when the
kids are running right next to me. Yeah, I just
called out, hey, stop that this isn't the playground. Like
what yes?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Right?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Yes, So take heed in the second scenario, why stop
with children? Why not use it for adults? Now? I
go to the movies normally on a Tuesday afternoon, and
there's a couple of signs there, you know, no telephones
and all the carry on. You can be watching the
movie and someone's phone rings or they answer their phone.
The light on the phone goes on and all let
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carry on. And I never I never called out, oh,
excuse me, would you mind turning that off? I don't
use those words. I yell out, hey, turn that off.
You're not at home now.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I think you've got the advantage of experience and wisdom
on your side.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Actually, I wonder is there a sort of get out
of jail free card for Kelvin. I don't know. I'm
not sure. I can't remember how old you are, Calvin.
But if you are three three, where is there a
certain age where if you are an older person you
can just say you can't stop it at Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, you reckon.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
There's something from.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
The magic words, This isn't the playground, and so nobody
can tell you that the supermarket is a playground. So
you're right every time.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think the other people who could probably get away
with it at any age would probably be sporting icons,
like if you were if you were Ardie Severe, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Well, if he told me to stop doing something, I'd
stop doing something.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Actually, you probably and you'd probably be fairly safe that
you were were out of order.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Just so if you're eighty three or the all Black Captain,
you're allowed to tell people off. Is that that's the
that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm going to narrow it down. If you're eighty three
and you're Ardie Severe, I reckon he could Actually I'm joking,
but it's sort of sort of true, you know it is,
don't you? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (22:08):
Jan? Hello, Hi? How's it going?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Not too bad? How you doing good?
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I'm driving around, I'm working, and I'm listening to this,
and I thought, I have to put my ten cents in.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Good on you.
Speaker 10 (22:21):
I'm one of these mothers that wants to grab them
by the collar and you know, shove them in the
rubbish upside down.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And your mind. That's quite that's a useful meta mind.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
To imagine these through though, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
No, No, no, no, anyway, No. Just years ago, I
was at McDonald's with my daughter who was about three
or four, and a friend, and this child comes in
and you could just see he just had it written
over his face that he was just out to distruct
the place. And the father sat down with the coffee
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and put the newspaper up and just buried his head
in the newspaper and listen, all guys go up on
the slide McDonald's, and everyone would attempt to get up
or climb through the tunnels. He kicked, he punched he
and anyway, I thought, just wait, I just sat back
and I thought, yeah, yep, yep. So anyway, my daughter
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gets up there and she comes out of we tunnel
and he wouldn't let her down the slide and he
punched her. Not a hard punched, but he punched it.
I'm like, right, So I went up and I said, listen, mate,
get off the slide. Get get off the slide. I said,
this isn't right. You're hurting kids here. And the little
boy looked at me, and then I went over to
the father and I said, your son is punching and
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kicking other children up on that slide. Could you do
something about it? And I said, my daughter is one
of them. It's not good mate, you're not keeping an
eye on them. And he did. He did. He got
out of his seat and got and got the boy.
But I just thought, you can't sit back, no, you know,
you've got to get up. And that's just one example
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of many raising my kids.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think, actually, you know, there is a difference between
the sexiest. Do you think that the fact that you're
a woman made it easier for you than if it
had been me? Saying, hey, mate, you know.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
It just went on. It was going off for fifteen
twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
But oh, actually I have actually done that. You've just
reminded me there were kids who were oh that's I've
done that at a playground, and not for the same
reason as you jan, but you've just reminded me that
there were boys who were trying to go up the
slide all the time, and there were kids wanted to
slide down. They would think, and I just said, boys,
it's a one way street. Get out of there, boys,
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isn't it always boys? Yeah, I'm afraid it is, but
I mean it was I was literally I think that's
a question of safety though, because I just said, boys,
get out of the way. Someone's going to get hurt, okay.
And actually they respond instantly because they are generally just
little kids, aren't.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
They look health safety morals taken by the father? Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
And I imagine there was a s don.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
Looked up and down thoughts, She'll be right, mate. He
could see what the sun was doing because another couple
of mothers had gone and removed their children. And I'm
like he just was so oblivious.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Thought it's almost telling off the parents not telling off
the kids, isn't it?
Speaker 10 (25:20):
Yeah? You je, so that's why.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, But anyway, that's we've en George ten cents and
it's funny. I was trying to think of other times
I do remember, but it was just a question of safety.
It's like boys, you know, and you that's the thing.
It's boys, you know, because it's not just one little
boy you got up to. Its boys, Hey, boys, and
it's another male in boys. And there was something about
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that that there that it's a bit like, you know,
just the males within communities taking responsibility. If in collection
of boys behaving badly, it seems that that's sort of
almost desirable, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I can I tell you a story about when we
wanted yes the teaser, Yes, the teaser. Well, I'll try
to make a long story short. We were at a
concert Indoneda and now son was sixteen, and he had
made at home perhaps that was a first mistake, and
he had actually wanted to go to the concert initially
and then changed his mind. And I said, I don't
really want to go, but I'll go just because we've
got the ticket in mine as well. Halfway through the concert,
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I got a call from our neighbor. She said, did
you know that there's a party on it your place
next door? And there are people on the roof. We
went what look, Luckily we had we had in our village,
some great friends who lived two streets down the road.
We rang them and he's a school teacher. So high
school teacher done. He came round, knocked on the door
(26:39):
and said, hey, you've got ten minutes to clear this out,
otherwise the police are coming, and as quick as that boom,
they were gone. But that's when we wanted and needed
another parent to step in for us. So it was
it was great, It was great.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We really, hey, what consequences?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That was the consequence the fact and I came home
steaming the next day, but that we didn't need to
have any consequences. That was the That was the biggest
how I'll tell you the house was pristine, absolutely prestine
the next day.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Actually that resonates, but I seem to remember my mum
coming home and going through the grog, I think, and
going through the grog coveting go. Now they've cleaned. Then
one of my brothers paid a price for that. I think.
A fantastic good story.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, but that's what we wanted, the village. We needed
the village.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
In fact, that was the right that was probably the
right thing to do. So you got a call from
someone so from our neighbor.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So our neighbor was sort of checking.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I wouldn't have minded of our neighbor had gone next
door herself and said, hey, you know you shouldn't be
having this. But but you know, she let us know,
and we wouldn't have wanted that to happen. So we
were able to activate our village and it was great.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That's another good, good reason to also be friendly with
your neighbors. Got your number and we'll be back in
just to take great story. Thank you for that. Google
The Voice of Reason, the Voice of the feisty.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Fart title, isn't it the Voice of Reason?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I go, we'll be back and just to tick, we've
got some callers holding and we'll be back in the
moment this news talks, he'd be twenty two minutes to
six news talks. Here'd be with Tim Bevere. Now we're
talking about telling how the people's kids off. I've got
to tell you something funny that just happened. Now, So
Tyra's just taking a call from someone who says there
was a time when they went out or something and
there was a He was saying that that we got
back in the kids. All the furniture was in the
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pool and things, and he was telling about what had happened,
and he said it was back in twenty sixteen, and
Tyra says, was that in howick? And he goes, yes,
it wasn't It turns out that Tyra were you were
you the culprit, Tyr or just someone who was there?
She was, she was just present at that party. But
isn't that a small world? It's like, there's kids that
furniture ended up in the poll and I was like,
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it wasn't how it was? It? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It was?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So the caller decided not to come on here.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
How widely spread news talks he'd be listening.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
To, isn't it fantastic? But by the way, just on
the safety thing, somebody says, as a police officer, I've
attended a number of assaults when people told off poorly
behaved kids to be attacked by the parents. So you
really have to read it. Read the room up to
a point. And another one says some people do have
a superpower. This guy says, I'm six foot two, I'm
built like the proverbial. If ye'll stop, everyone stops. Kids,
(29:17):
an oults, I'm only fifty, but I've been a grumpy
old man since i was eighteen, and I've always been
able to make others stop. And that's possibly this Darren's superpower.
Take some more calls, Beryl, Hello.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hill An, Listen, guys, I'm not inhibited or politically creeped
like you two way for biscuits.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's coming in from a long run up, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Lovely? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I do believe that you've got to read the situation
at the time. But if I get two year olds
or three year ods crashing into me running around the supermarket,
I just say, just be careful please, And generally their
parents look at them as they're close by and tick
them off. But this is what happened yesterday to me,
these parents that let their kids run around with a
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cart and another child was underneath this cart and they
crashed right into my back and it was really sore,
and I've got to saw that. So I turned around
and I said, listen, you brat, you go a bit
slower and wish your parents and anyway, the parents did
show up, but there are a lot of people around,
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and the parents did shot, didn't say anything to me,
but ticked the kid off. So in all cases so
far with me, I've had the parents when they've heard
me talking, tick the child off. But like I said,
I'm not down on kids that accidentally crash into me
running around the supermarket and don't hurt me. But that
cart with the child running around and another child underneath,
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which the supermarket always telling you shouldn't do, really hurt
and boy that that kid hear my voice and got
quite a shop. And the parents came told the child off,
but there were plenty of people around, had they try
to attack me. But I do believe you should actually
read read the room before you do that. But I
was in such shocked.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes, you know you just reacted, Barrel. Actually, to be honest,
that's quite understandable.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Health safety morals. I think any of those are good ground,
and it's a shame that we have to worry about
the consequences. I think of being attacked or assaulted by
an adult if you're trying to do the right thing,
but you appreciate that it happens.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean I think that's I mean, if you're taking
away with them at this hour, it is probably the
count ten sort of thing, because you know, because if
you just react instantly and emotionally, you might not read
the room first, and that can lead to you know.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, you could say something that you end up regretting.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, actually something texted saying people get more upset if
you growl at their dog than their kids. These days,
we're saying that for the peason, we'll say that for
the pet squad. A new hour to be invented on
news talks. He'd be not a bad idea. Anyway. Let's
go to Morris Hello, let's I.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Had an incident at the local pub. I went down
one Sunday afternoon to watch a horse race in Hong Kong,
and this kid was running around just screaming at the
top of his voises in a bar and a restaurants, screaming,
and then he started throwing stuff for people. Mum and
mum and granddad were happy. Just left them alone. They
were watching the live music. Left the kid alone. Other
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people would take it back. Just carried on for two hours.
That'd body beat there for two hours and the kid
was there for four and a half hours, and in
the end I grabbed were they pointed him from a
little tickle on the bum and he'd sit down in
their seat and shut up. I'm over it. So he
went immediately and sat down.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It don't do it these days, Morris.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So you find this is only six months ago?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
What?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
What happened? Then? What happened?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Then the mother got up and paid attention to the kittens,
outed squeezing because I'm a bit of olives and marry you,
said any black sarenta men't and she screamed at the
top of a voice. Anyway, everyone saw what happened. Everyone
wanted to do what I did, but no one did
right anyway. They went to the bar trying to get
him to dial one one one no one. Everyone just
(33:21):
said she died one one one, or her father died
one one after he tried to assault me. They died
one one one, and his son has been severely beaten
in the hotel. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
The cops come everything.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So I left.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
The girl said I got to miss the raised water
bugget okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let's just keep it nice and turned down because of
his father in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Anyway, and so I left and then got a phone
called a couple of days later because they knew who
it was and they told the police in orders of it.
He wrung me up and he said, oh, we want
to have a word with you, and I said, well,
before you, we'd go and have a look at the video.
He wented out a look at the video and it
was act. She was actually a Chinese coup. But he said,
I don't know why I'm talking to you. He said,
(33:59):
what have you done? And he said the reason that
is the literal LA says this. I had no choice,
so this could be a warning.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh well, good I Morris. That was It's a bit
worried we're going to a colorful with that one. But
I would say that, well, look, I.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Think difficult to lay your hands on other people's.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Care very I would I would avoid that like the plague,
and so we wouldn't care. But thank you for the
entertaining story, Morris, even though I did have my my
finger near the dump button there, But thanks for you. Mate. Ian. Hello,
he's good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
I had and yesterday I'm a middle age man behaving badly.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
And is there anything to do with kids, no bad.
Oh yeah, well it's probably not relevant to the parents
squad though, But if this gets more into just confrontation,
so we might we might, we we might actually we
might leave that one there. But actually it's funny. Here's
(34:59):
there's here's one here. Somebody says, I'm oh, this is
an interesting one between friends.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Somebody says, I know two couples had been friends for
years but haven't spoken because one parent told the other's
child off.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
My experience has been the opposite that I'd be much
more inclined to lit my and want my friends to
tell my kids off if they were not bathing well,
because I think often your friends have got pretty similar
kind of values. I think. So, yeah, that's interesting. That
is an interesting one storied a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Because I would, in fact usually look, I can't imagine
if I've ever had to offer words of advice, but
I might say, if the girls, you know, have friends
around and they're being a bit noisy, I might just
knock on the door and then just say, guys, can
we just be a bit quiet? But I'm talking to
all of them, and I'll make eye contact with my daughter,
and it's towards her, but the other ones actually they're
(35:55):
always really well behaved.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I'm sure they are great genes and it meant and
breeding my children.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But I think no. I mean, if you've the kids
are respectful, so you literally just need.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
To appear in your house, different sort of different thing too, right,
if it's in your place. If it's in your house,
it's your rules.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It's when it's in a public setting that I think
we start there's a clash of values. I think sometimes
it's like some people don't think that's wrong and other
people do, and I think that's yeah interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I think that there's probably some detail missing from
that story, depending on how stern the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, well we could go back and look at the
video ourselves.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Somebody's just texted saying, well, you too, are as woke
as it gets. Actually, I'm sorry, I am not woke.
I'm just pushing back against that. And I don't think
Google's woke either. I think we're just sensible.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah about the wakness around. Maybe it's because we're being
polite when we when we say to other parents, could
you sort your kids out? Rather than just yelling at them.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I don't know, waiting in I mean as we've heard
from Calvin. We heard Calvin, he's just as the superpower,
being eighty two years old. You can go get cats,
cut it out there, and that's fine. Probably when you're
you know, sort of middle aged, sort of I don't know,
ordinary sort of milk kind of guys, milk kind of guys. You'
And another person says some have it easier than others.
(37:22):
I'm large bespectacle. I'm just trying to I'm large bespectacled,
sparkling eyes, large red cheeked, and with a large white
beard as a Santa Claus. I was in a local
Supermark when I heard two young boys arguing. The mum
looked close to tears. I just leaned over the intervening
freezers and asked, where where where I'm not sure read
(37:45):
this where the Black Peter should deliver their coal? Must
have been it Christmas time. This must be a joke
about things looking like I did. I did look like
Santa Laus. Mum looked a bit amused, confused, and then
started to smile and sounds nice, I think probably if
you can use a sense of humor in that situation. Well,
(38:05):
have we learned anything today.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Google, Well, we're apparently we're incredibly woke. That's what I've leaved.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It's not not an a casation that gets thrown at
me very often.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Well, there you go the first time for everything.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I think it's a great I think it's a really
interesting debate. And and and when when is it okay?
You know, we all we all believe all year it
takes a village to raise a kid. But until the
village starts interfering with your parenting and it's like, hang
on a minute. I didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I did love the guy the parent with you when
your son was having a party. You've got ten minutes
and the police, police coming. It was great, brilliant. Great
to see Google, Yeah, lovely.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
To be here in person was great.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And if people want to check out your website and
your company, Umbrella.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
The Voice of Reason dot com. No, that's a little
bit a new one coming Umbrella dot org dot ens
there people to check. It's probably a website.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Called dad anyone must be taken.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Don't go there.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
No, okay, mate, thanks so much. The sports Rapper is next.
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