September 13, 2025 • 40 mins
For many of us, the roof is one of those things that completely slips the mind until it's raining inside.
RoofBuddy founder and director James Logan joins to discuss roof maintenance, and when it's time for a new one.
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it so and welcome back to the Weekend Collective. By
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there's a little bit of counting Crows there, which has
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would like to choose the opening music for the show.
And I always feel a little bit guilty with when
I hear counting crows because my wife was is probably
still but more particularly was a big fan of counting
Crows and we were doing a road trip once and
there was a lot of Counting Crows, and I lightheartedly
mimicked the sort of slightly yelpy quality of the style
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of the singer and did an impersonation of them, and
I completely ruined the band for her, and she said,
thanks very much, I'm never going to be able to
listen to them again. And so I think we've remedied it.
About twenty years later. I put them on one day
and I think she was able to put it to
one side and enjoy them again. But anyway, obviously a
fan of Counting Crows is our guests were going to
be talking about roof roofs, roofs. Hang on a minute,
(02:09):
roofs or roofs. That's almost a grammar question. Now I
don't know the answer to that, tire eager bit of
go google that roofs. Yeso roof roofs. How is your
roof doing? Anyway, we're going to talk about root roofs.
When did your last check it? For many of us,
the roof is one of those last things that slips
your mind until it's raining inside, and that's probably the
time when you want to get something done, hopefully beforehand.
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But I mean, how often are you checking your roof,
what maintenance actually needs to be done, and more importantly
interestingly right now, of course, I think in Auckland there's
a home show going on right now. And actually we
replaced our roof at home. Obviously at home, we replaced
our roof a few years ago before COVID. Anyway, not
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long before COVID and I actually did choose the roof,
I simply because I met them at the home show
and got them to come around and give a quote
and away we went. Anyway, but we're going to talk
about roofs, roofing and joining me. He's the founder and
director at roof Buddy, and he's with us for the
One Roof radio show and also a Counting Crows fan.
I imagine James Logan. Get James, how are you going?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
All right? Very well? Thanks, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I'm assuming counting that with that, is that your
top of the top of your bangers, you sort of
get in the car you want to pick me up
at are counting Crows?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, it's a bit of a wink and a nod
to my father who'd be driving us up to the
beach house with Counting Crows.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, in the Bluefish.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Isn't it funny the memories that music can just trigger
with you just and that's well, that's the magic of
music anyway. Hey, look, so talking about roofs, just tell
us a bit about you first before we get into
the in the conversation. But if you're listening and you've
got any questions around roofing roofs and you or an
opinion about you'd like to share with us your experience
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about the mistake you made when you were choosing to
get your roof repaired or replaced. But how did you
tell us a bit about you, James?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, So I came out of university at the sort
of middle of the GFC, found it quite hard to
get a job, so it was forced into entrepreneurialship and
started an air conditioning business that grew quite large. And
so I've always been in the property industry per se,
and got into some property development here and abroad. And
(04:23):
then when I came back to New Zealand started a
roofing company, found that the industry was reasonably under serviced
from a service perspective. It was quite difficult to get quotes.
So the company that we were doing supply and installation
with went very well, very quickly, and then founded roof
Buddy as a way to increase the scaling vector because
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we just weren't able to effectively process all of the
sales that we were getting.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
From scaling vector is jargon, I guess from me, what
does that mean for people who are listening? What's the
scaling vector?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, it was a rate limited in terms of fulfillment
for installation. So the idea with roof Buddy was to
take the technology and the sales process that we've developed,
and now we have up to one hundred roofs around
New Zealand who bid on the marketplace providing competitive, comparable
quotes for roofing work.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, so it's because actually I remember when we did
get our when we got our roof done, and I
did get a couple of quotes, and one of them
was massive and then one of them was quite I thought,
are pretty good. In fact, I know I wasn't suspicious
of it because we ended up using them, but it
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was I think it I think we're talking about would
have been close to double, just about but not double,
but let's say seventy or eighty percent from memory. It
was a lot more expensive and I actually just be
honest with you, I thought, I don't know, I don't
know where to go with this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, so with like larger transactions like roofs, is a
real informational asymmetry without between the buyer and the seller
and seeing quotes that are perhaps twice what another quote is.
You really don't know what to do with that, because well,
is it apples for apples?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Actually one of the things you mentioned that through your
business as it's putting a bunch of roofers together to
compete for quotes. But it's one thing to get a price,
and I mean this goes beyond roofing, of course, doesn't it.
It's one thing to get a price, and it's another
to sort of work out why one is cheaper than
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the other. Are they just trying harder for the business
or are they struggling for business because they're not very good?
I mean that's the thing with all building, I guess.
But you were saying before the show that there's a
difference with you would licensed building practitioners when it comes
to you know, putting some timber and framing and plouting
and all that thing up. But is roofing the same
or is there an issue there.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Well, so what you're looking for is competitive comparable quotes, right,
so that the specifications are the same across all the
quotes that you're reviewing, so that you know you're getting
the same thing from each service provider. But then to
your point about the track record and qualifications the service provider,
So in New Zealand we have formal qualifications for registered
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building work such as installing a new roof on a
new home. But for a reroof you and I, being
entirely unqualified, would be legally capable and allowed to go
out and sell it and install it together right this afternoon?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Really? Yes, so hey you mentioned you're entirely unqualified.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I'd have a pretty good idea of what to do,
so I'd probably lead the project.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, I just measured my pulse there and it just
went up to ten percent. But so hang on. So
to install a roof commercially for someone else, I mean I.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Could reroofing versus new build.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay new builders Lvpporry.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You need to be able to sign that off as
a licensed building practitioner. A reroof is completely unregulated.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So anyone can stick on a roof.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Correct, and it's arguably difficult more difficult than a new roof.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We certainly got a few aspects to it, doesn't it
certainly not to.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Mention take a fifty year old structure, it's not as
clean as a brand new structure in terms of the
you know, timber being straightened, level and all of that
sort of stuff. So it's yeah, it's a bit of gap.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. So of course then there's materials as well, I guess,
and actually, to be honest, I think in terms of
the quote that I got for our houses, for our house,
it was basically using the same sort of steel. I mean,
it's long and what's the what's the expression. It's long
run sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Corrugated.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, well it's ridged, you know, the one that's sort
of like six inches, and then it's another ridge and
it was just basically ten by ten roof flat pitch
where we go.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, so that's the most common roofing material in New Zealand.
I think eighty percent of roofs would be long run metal,
long time and then but there's a minority that would
be tiles and ten tiles and things like that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
How much Okay, we'ld love your calls on this if
it goes beyond roofing as well. About it. You know,
if you are trying to choose a trades person or
business or company to do the gig for your house,
how did you go about choosing them? Because there is
the other side of it. I would have thought the
last thing you wouldn't get many too many DIY roofers though,
(09:22):
would you in terms of doing their own roof I
would have thought they would have be just on the
slightly risky and silly side.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean it's a pretty important part of the structure.
So yeah, you'd have to have some good trade capabilities
in the household if you were considering doing it with
friends and family.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, So I mean how I mean your business is
about helping people sauce a roof of Before you had
set up your business, how would you have approached getting
the right contractor for a gig? Because if you're in
the business, of course word of mouth, you know, people
and stuff. But how would you have if you weren't
using a business like you?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, invariably, I think I found what a lot of
homeowners find is that it's very frustrating. So you put
in for when we do do it, and we're doing
make at research before we started the business, and I
put an inquiry in with thirty five roofing companies and
genuinely needed a new roof on my business.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We went to thirty five companies.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, got three calls back.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Who are okay, I think that's it. You didn't get
thirty five quotes? Well, how many quotes? Actually, how many
quotes for you would be enough?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, we only got one quote back in that exercise,
But what we procure for people in the course of
say twenty four hours, would be between three to five
competitive comparable quotes. That's that's a good spread.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And how would they decide in the end.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So on our marketplace, we also have reviews and track
record and quality assurance measures as well, so you can
benchmark the roof as performance against each other on the marketplace.
But you know, you also want to research them online
and you meet them at the property, get to know
them and yeah, and review their qualify.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's another question for you for your listening. I mean,
you can get online reviews, but how much of the
decisions for the callers? You can give us a call
on that. On eight hundred and eight ten eighty. When
it comes to choosing someone to do your roof or
any other major job on your house. How much do
you how much do you rely on maybe reading some
online reviews versus Actually I'm still a bit old school,
and that's probably why I went to the home show
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and I chatted to someone and it was just the
I mean, some people are good salespeople as well, but
it was something in the conversation that I thought, Okay,
I think I might give you guys a go, come
around and give me a quote. I mean, how would
you have done it in days gone by?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, same way you've got. It's very time intensive, and
that's the point, I guess. If you've got no way
to accurately assess the qualifications and track record, you have
to go off instinct. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Quite inconvenient to chase those people around because they want
to meet you at the property during business hours. You've
got to go home, you've got to be there. Often
they don't show up on time, so it can be
a bit of a rigormarole to get things done.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, we'd love your calls on this. In fact, we've
got to call it. Let's kick it off and we're
going to get quite how you mentioned your own qualified,
but you do have a fair bit of knowledge about
roofs as well, so you can give us a call on.
I think you might have been understating a little bit,
but in terms of formal qualifications. But yeah, if you've
got any questions about your roof, about how long you
can actually maintain it before before it gives up the ghost,
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because we pushed ours for a long time and I
was trying to think, why do we actually replace ours?
I can't remember why, But anyway, let's take your calls
on that. OHA one hundred and eighty ten eighty tony
get a.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Excellent? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
What are your eck excellent?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well? I wish my roof was excellent. I put a
new one on about maybe five years ago, and it's
had a lot of lichen in the time I got
it sprayed round about March this year, and I've only
lost possibly twenty percent of the liken, so there's an
awful lot still up there. We've had a hell of
a lot of rain, which is what the chap told
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me it would take to wash it all away. Well
it hasn't happened, and somebody told me recently, like it's
it's color steel long run, and they said that whatever
it is that attaches the liking to your roof has
the ability to go through the paint and into the
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iron and will eventually cause holes bloody, thereby negating your
warranty because you didn't care for it adequately.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, So how is yours are sloped roof? Is it flat?
And what is it if?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Oh, it's it's a nineteen hundred house as in the
year nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, okay, so it's good.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yeah, decent pitch gables, bloody.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Bla gables, bloody blah.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Oh well, I didn't think you want the hold.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, that's good. That's pretty good of you to
just standing James. What's your what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
So?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Are you in the bush anywhere? Tony and tidering something
like that? No, we're in Northcote on the roof or
is it? Can you get the line?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Most of the roof gets a heck of a lot
of sunshine.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So yeah, Lichens just an organic material, right, So it's
it's alive and it's growing on the roof. Oftentimes it
proliferates more if it's shaded, or if it stays wet.
So that's why I asked, if you're undercover or away
from the light, you've got to kill it, you know,
if you've sprayed it once and it hasn't done the job,
You've just got to keep going and you get a
(14:32):
more and more aggressive chemical until it's dead, and then
you can use a high pressure water blaster to take
it off. But once it's gone, it shouldn't come back.
The reason it keeps reproliferating is because it's alive, you know,
like a like a bacteria or a mold type thing.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Gets what gets it on there in the field. Because
actually I've been up. I mean, I am a little
bit diy when it comes to clean the roof. And
we're a two story house, so I've got the extension
ladder and I like to think I'm pretty careful. You're
looking at me going, oh God, your trouble. But I've
but I've sprayed my own roof for liken, and now
I'm talking to you with all the rain, I think
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because it's not perfectly you know, we do get a
little tiny bit of pulling water because it's flat pitch right,
Where does it get there in the first place. Is
it just because there's a tree nearby and something blows
off it and the way we go.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's similar to algae in the pond, right, So yeah,
it's like it's coming in on the wind and finding
a place that it likes to grow.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What did you get it sprayed with, Tony?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's all I can say is a chemical. And apparently
to the chap who uses it, it was a new chemical.
So he said he was using me as an experiment somewhat.
He came back every two weeks to have a look,
and after about four or five visits he said, oh, yep,
that's working. But I've just had a further look, and
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I don't believe it has worked adequately.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I wonder how many people are listening right now who
think they were. I mean, don't go and climb up
on your roof, please if you've never done it before,
especially if you've never done it before. But I wont
how many people are just thinking. I wonder what is
actually up there? Because now you've got me thinking about it, Tony,
so I've got all paranoid about the like, and I'm
probably going to get up there and find it's a
forest of like it, and I'm going to get really depressed.
But any further there, James.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Your spot on. You've got to get rid of it
because it will eventually damage the paint system. Work its
way through, get through the galve and you'll be into
the substrate. So keep working on it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Now, that's my paranoid because as an elderly chat I
put it on to see me out and if I
get holes in it, I won't be able to afford
to replace.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It easier in summer too, So wait till November and
have another crack, because you get more light on it,
you get twenty dry days in a row.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, we thought March was good because you know it was.
It was still pretty good weather and the heavy rains
has yet to come would give it a time to work.
And anyway, it is what it is, so I do
have every right to expect it to deteriorate further without
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additional treatment.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Go to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Actually, by the way, what is the story with warranties
on roofs, because I would have thought that it's part
of the fact that you are a roof that you're
going to get exposed to a lot of foreign materials
and stuff. What are the rules around having a warranty
about the color, steel or whatever it is lasting?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, So there's two types of warranties, as a workmanship warranty,
which is on the mechanical efficacy of the roof to
keep water out. That's an installation question. And then you've
got the material warranty, which, to be fair, is very
hard to claim on. Usually there's a reason that it's
not going to be a claimable event because it's very
unlikely the roof failed due to the failure of the
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material in paint, galvanization or substrate, So it's usually going
to be an external.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like and actually just for how should you not get
like enough because I imagine you don't want to be
with a toothbrush. Well, I mean, but in terms of
enohing too violent.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
As well would hurt the Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't
want to use a four thousand psi water blaster that's
going to blow the paint off as well, So you
know you've got to use you want it to be
dead and then it comes off easily. Yeah, Right, if
you're trying to take it off when it's alive, it's
going to hold on.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, I think probably get a contractor to do that stuff,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah, I highly.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Recommend that too. When you're looking at me going, oh
you need your Henrid. Okay, hey, Loo, we're going to
take quick break. Take more calls. Eight hundred eighty ten
and eighty thanks for yours to get us rolling. Tony
talking about maintaining replacing your roof with he's the founder
of roof Buddy. James Logan. Will be back in just
a moment. It's twenty five past four News Talks. It
be Tim Beverage. This is one Ruth Freddy Esham, a
guest is he's the founder director of roof Buddy, James
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Logan talking about repairing and looking after your roof. When
do you replace it? Your questions and calls or what
advice Bob get a Yes.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Gentlemen, it's nice interesting subject you're talking about, and I'm
interested in my roof. It's a pretty nearly a thirty
year old house which I built and it had will,
my wife and I and it's got a tile roof
and we maintained it over the years and had treatment
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so there is no moss, mold and gunge on it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I'd like an advert and carry on. Now you
just used an expression which a well known advertiser used.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
He's a well, no exactly, but it's not that product.
But you know what I mean. Anyway, But I had
I recently had the house painted, and we built it
as a low maintenance so it's it's a tile roof
and a brick veneer thing, so there's not a lot
of painting to do. And now the guy was doing
some stuff and the painter and he said, a bit
worried about your roof, he said, And he took me,
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went up there and put his hand on it. And
the tiles were a painted tile. Well I suppose they
were a monia tile, and they were a denim blue
color when we bought them. And this product is now
there's no gunge on them, but the there is a
like a powder. And he put his hand into a
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wed handled it and comes away and all this stuff
is stuck to it.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Okay, well, what caused it?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Or is it detrimental to my I mean the house?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The tiles?
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, okay, James, what do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Is that a tin tile with an aggregate like a sand?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
It's a concrete tile. A concrete tile, and they were
painted den and blue.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, and the coating's coming off when you rub your
finger across it.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Well, it's thirty years old. Yeah, yes, if you rub
your finger across it, it will cut that there was
a red as you did it, because they faded over
the years.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay, got So does that mean there's a problem with
the porousness maybe of the.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Oh that's that's my question to you. Do you think
do I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
A concrete tile is mechanically capable of lasting another forty
to fifty years from the thirty that you've already had,
So what you're really two can considerations are is how
it looks and keeping it maintained. So and you're dead
right about the porous nature with concrete tiles. Often over
time they suck in the coating product, so you know,
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getting it treated as great, keeping it clean is great.
We use a liquid membrane called Guardian seal, which we
would coat a roof of about that age, and it
creates a membrane over the top of it, and that
increases the longevity and closes those pores and improves the aesthetics.
But unless you're concerned with how it looks.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Actually that does not as do not concern me. The
functionality is my consent.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Okay, well you might want to get someone I mean,
I think you want to get an expert to have
a look at it in person. There, Bob. But I
guess what we're saying is it might be a case
of just some sort of protective coating rather than any.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Over time.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, when was that.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Oh, probably about five years ago. They Silica, the firm
that does the gun stuff, said we can do a
silicon which makes it could sort of help the runoff
because and see the water ran off rather than soaking in.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, well that sounds promising that if you have any questions,
I would have thought you would be advised to get
somebody ever look at it, wouldn't you, James.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, you'd have to see it before making an assessment.
But mechanically, concrete tile roofs are great, especially if you
keep on top of the maintenance like things like like
and aesthetically they degrade, you know, reasonably quickly, so getting
them recoated and repainted.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Just on that. Because I've noticed there are a lot
more I've noticed a few more adverts for coatings rather
than replacement, which obviously when people are feeling like the
economy is not that great and who wants to replace
the roof? If you can re I mean, how effectively
can it be done? And in which circumstances would a
coating be the answer rather than ripping it off and
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replacing it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It entirely depends on the condition of the roof. So
you've got roofs that are in an intrim condition, which
is where I'd say a liquid membrane like Guardian seal
would be appropriate, where they're not too far gone that
the substrate has been impaired or compromised or proferated. But
once it gets past a certain point, you're looking at replacement.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Is that rust or is that lichen that would lead
it to that position?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I mean, li Likeen could contribute, it wouldn't cause you'll yeah,
I mean, it's all about the substrate. So if you're
cleaning and coating and you're substrate still in good condition
and it's still mechanically sound, you're going to get another
ten or fifteen years out of it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Out of the coating. Of course, Oh well that's bloody
good news, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
If you get there quick enough, right, so, but if
you go past a certain point and it is a
judgment call.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So okay, well, here's another quick question, and before you
go to the course, we've got a lot of callers
lined up. How often should you get your roof inspected?
I mean a color steel roof, let's go with. I
know that's a brand, but you know what I mean
a steel roof long.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Run, Yeah, I mean arbit arbitrarily inspecting it I think
would be mostly unnecessary. I mean, if you have if
you're keeping it clean and you're clearing the gutters out,
and it's relatively new, you know, you want to have
a look every five years or something like that, so.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I don't need to get it even with the liking thing.
How should be checking from.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You've got to get rid of that. I can see
that from the ground, though I can't y, so you.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Know it, I've got to get up six meters.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
In that case, I'll be checking it every time I
get someone to.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Come around and hold the ladder these days. Okay, okay,
more questions from you, Brian. Did I Yes?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Today, I've got a flat roof house and I'm almost
up on top of it, and I'm just wondering about
one of those seals that you've talked about, whether that
could be applied. But there are little patches of rust
on us, and I've replaced certain parts of It's kind
(24:57):
of a long run steel is painted kind of kind
of profile.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So is it draped, so is it sort of lower
on the gutter ends than in the center, and it's
sort of bent over in the middle.
Speaker 10 (25:14):
It has it has a slight fall on it, you know,
it doesn't it's it's it's almost completely planted to it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sounds like ours has technically got a bit of a
slope to it. But because of property building shifting, there's
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So yeah, a few were sensible consenting rules wouldn't allow
that type of roof. You know. Nowadays minimum pitch should
be three degrees eight's preferable. So it's a bit of
a quirk of the historical building code that those structures exist,
and they're they're relatively difficult to deal with, to be fair,
I mean, technically the best thing you can do is
(25:51):
go and get a building consent and have the whole
structure repitched, so adding structure to get it up to
a fall and then reroofing it which is expensive. Yeah,
price prohibitive in most cases, So you end up either
trying to convince someone to repitch it without a consent,
which obviously registered building works being done without a without
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the appropriate consenting, or you're replacing it like for like,
which is doubling down on a losing strategy.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Why you you said you're always up on your roof?
Why you always up on your roof?
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Brian, Well, when you own a flat roofhouse, you can't
take anything for granted. So when you get rain events,
you've got to be There are internal gatherings that can't
be accessed from the ground, so you've actually got to
be up there and looking out. And we're not talking
about those houses in the nineties. You know they had
those the leaky house syndrome. This house was built in
(26:44):
the seventies, so you know it's but it could still
be a design thing that's probably not so great. But yeah,
those in the gatherings and things, you've got to clean
them out.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So keeping those gutters clean is absolutely imperative. And then
you can do overcoat with membrane ducks into those gutters too,
which extends the life of them by in order of magnitude.
And then to your point with the steel sheets, you
can strip those back and reseal them depending on the condition.
So it's you know, if you're getting to it early,
(27:18):
it sounds like you're doing a lot of maintenance, which
is good, but just.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Be careful getting Is it a one story house, Bryan.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Yeah, it is a one story house. But I'm seventy
next year, so I don't want to be doing it
the little.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hurts to fall off to Yeah, we take care of yourself.
Thanks for your call. We're going to take a quick moment.
We'll be back, and just to take this as news
Talk z B twenty three minutes to five. Yes, News
Talk zed B. By the way, just a quick thing.
Don't always you don't necessarily need to go for Who's advertising.
Go to your local hardware store and have a chat
with people about different products because they generally got a
good take on what gets rid of like a mob
(27:53):
but that seems to be the topic of the day
with the Liken in the Mold and talking about roofs
with the founder of roof Buddy, James Logan. Diet Oh,
hang on, Diane, where'd you go? Disappeared there? Quentin Good a.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Good ay, hips, I've got a conservatory with the clear
corrugated roof over the top and the not that ident
thing it's like, and it's probably mold or something that's
it's built up in the joins the nine hundred or
(28:24):
whatever they are. And I got a piece of corrigated plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And you've got a bit muffled there, Quentin.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Oh sorry, okay, I've got a bit. I got another
piece of small piece of corrugated plastic and put rag
over it and tried to move it, but it wouldn't move,
So I think it's it's really stuck on. So I've
spoken to the different mold and gunge people. They tend
(29:00):
to put their hands up because of the the acrylic
that the chemicals might affect the critic. But how am
I going to get rid of that ugly stripe down
each each joint of the corrugations.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, well, if it's been you know, colored, the material
will have lost its color or been stained. So perhaps
even if you remove it or get rid of it,
that section of perspects probably need to be replaced if
you want it to look good again.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Okay, so that's the whole seat.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they just don't stay looking good
for for forty to fifty years, you know. I mean,
if it's about twenty five thirty years and you haven't
replaced it's it's probably had its good innings already, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah. I have a suspicion that during the course of
this show there's a lot of people that are googling,
getting rid of like and.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Make it look good again, replace it exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Calvin Gooday, Calvin's just slip at the wheel for a second.
So I'll put them back to I'll put them back
to our producer there, just to get his attention. John.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hello, Yeah, I like him as well. Hi, John and
Otatahi nineteen eighty six two story house with gray sort
of steel roof and then there's two sort of windows
on top of the roof with another roof on top
of that. You know, there's it's like a bishop's hat.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
It will A guy came around this morning actually and
had a look at it. He said it needs to
be scaffolded. Yeah, and then he said he's going to
water blast it before he really spray paints at the
light gray that it is, you know, And I'm just
wondering whether it needed to be chemically treated before it's
sprayed painted.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Again, if you mean, if you're going to be painting
it or putting a membrane over it, which is a
superior solution, you certainly want to make sure that there's
no organic material alive because otherwise you're encapsuling that inside
the new paint system and it all you know, spread
underneath the paint.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, so it's got to be meticulously cleaned off before
it gets recoated, definitely. And yeah, to the point about scaffolding,
if it's over twenty five degrees and double level, you know,
he's probably right, which will be you know, probably half
the cost of the job at that point.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Okay, it's good luck with that, John. Actually, the scaffolding,
I mean, I guess that's where the quote thing comes
as as well as I mean, if I think that
was one of the big parts of the cost of it.
But the guys who did my job, they said, look,
we do our own scaffolding, and we just don't think
it needs to be that expensive. And I guess that
ticked the box for me. But the scaffolding these days,
(31:46):
somebody was texting saying, oh, scaffolding as well, blows the
quotes away and whatever happened to working with a harness.
But yeah, it's just a fact of life, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You, I mean it would be pretty uncomfortable replacing a
roof off harnesses. I mean, other than being completely illegal,
wouldn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, good on you, um Calvin, Hello, Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
What I'm wanting to find out, in general terms, the
possibility of replacing a dec roymastic tile roof with that
painted long run, which I call is sort of a
squared off version of corrugated iron in general terms, do
you normally is that able to be done on the
same timber work or do you have the alter the pitch?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, so you're you're talking about a trapezoidal profile by
the way, so that's a metal sheet with a pan
and an upstand, and it definitely can so, but what
you need to do is have the Perlins redone because
the spacings for the fixings are different between the tin
or the dechromastic tile and the long run. So they've
(32:54):
got an effectively put horizontal timber through the whole roof cavity.
And typically that's that's just the requirement to convert, but it.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Is that's pretty straightforward. In other words, it's not actually
altering the pitch, is it. It's just going long long
ways where the at the moment where the dechromestic tiles
are nailed on, that's the part the timberdee you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Anti Yeah, that's right. So you've got to reperl in
it so that you've got the fixing behind where you're
going to screw the iron onto. But it's considered like
for like, so there's no consenting requirement or anything like that.
So as long as you've got the new perlins on,
I mean what you don't want, and I mean any
good roofer wouldn't do this, but then to just go
(33:42):
straight over and double skin it, and you see a
lot of that was done in the nineties without just
rolled straight over the dechromatic tiles and screwed the new
roof iron roof on to the top of it.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, cheers Calvin. Actually it's with your business, roof buddy,
for people who are replacing them their roofs. Is it
also encapsure that business as you do coatings and peers
and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Definitely. Yeah, So like asbestos encapsulation like membrane coatings on
commercial properties that you just can't afford to take the
roof off because it's a business interruption all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What sort of I mean, if you're talking about cost,
I say it's thirty grand to replace your roof, I mean,
what sort of ballpark percentage are you're paying for a
coating instead.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It depends on the complexity of the roof. So if
it's a very simple roof, like two straight gables, you're
probably talking about about a third the cost, say about
a half. But if you've got a very complex, multi
pitch roof there's all sorts of angles and carry on,
that's a very expensive reroofing job, but a relatively sort
(34:49):
of a third the cost in terms of my carain coating.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
So is it a spray on membrane that how it
works or is it sort of rolled onto it and
sort of molded into place. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
The polyurethanacrylic that goes on the flat sections, that's roller applied.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
The memory that goes onto the roof surfaces themselves, that's
a spread gun.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay, right, let's take another call more questions. We don't
forget one roof property of the week, which I suspect
the one roof property of the week again is something
where my producer Tire is shopping round for where she
might like to live. And I'll give you an idea
about her taste and property and just to call it
a wild guess. It's because it's sort of a nice
house in a rural setting. Just call it a wild guest.
I was actually wondering if it was her place for
(35:29):
a second. But we'll be back with that after the break,
But first it is Helen Hello.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Oh, yes, good afternoon, him and your right. Hi. Now,
this is an interesting topic for me because I live
out in the country and I've got liking on some
things and not on others. Like macrec Harper battens. I
had a whole lot of them put on because they
were untreated, and the likings all over that treated posts
(35:54):
no like and at all. Now I had a when
I moved here, there was no buildings except there was
a very old shed which eventually collapsed. Now that's long run,
unpainted iron. No liking that I can call on that.
I'll have to go and have a look at the
pile of the you know, the pile of ten that
I've still got I've got a cabin that I'm not
(36:17):
able to get up onto, but nobody's ever mentioned like
and it's long run, unpainted, galvanized. But I can see
and I can't see any liking from down, you know,
on the ground. But clearly, more clearly, I've got a
half half round barn, long run, unpainted, galvanized, no liking.
The tool that I can see that was I have
(36:41):
that there now they both these dwellings are about thirty
something years ago. And now I'm just wondering if and
I've had about fifteen years ago, I had a porch
with zinkerloom roof, but five degrees no, no, no painting. Now,
I haven't got any liking on that that I can see. Now,
(37:03):
I'm wondering if there is some materials like in s
actly attracted to and roof, etc. Yeah, and so that
they've got like him, but I can't see any at all.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay, Okay, Helen, I'm going to leave it there and
we'll just get James answered maybe one or two questions.
And there are there particular materials that are like and
is more attracted.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
To think of liking as like an algae bloom right,
So it gets introduced to an area and it attaches
to what it wants to grow on. And yeah, so
it's obviously loving certain materials at your property and and
not so much others. And yeah, the way to get
rid of it is to treat it with the chemical
and let it dry out and die.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So okay, hey, thanks for your call. We'll be back
with one roof, the one with Property of the Week
in just a moment. This is news. Talks have been
nine and a half minutes to fine.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
The one roof Property of the Week on the Weekend Collective.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, the one roof probably the week is a bit
of a bit of a teaser for you, because as
I mentioned, it's it's one that my producer would probab
really quite like. And it is as I suddenly reached
for the bits of paper that I've misplaced on it,
and which we'll do just right now. It is in
Karraka Franklin. It's sixty three. Oh, I've got to pronounce
(38:19):
this right, Fott Parker Road. It is four bedrooms, two bathrooms,
two car garage. The house is two hundred and thirteen
square meters and it's a lifestyle property. It's well presented.
It's I mean, it's not the Ritz. It's just a
really nice property with a fantastic outlook. It's got a
pool there as well, and a rural outlook with a
(38:41):
lovely big long driveway, plenty of parking off the road,
looks and a beautiful looking garden. And if you're looking
for a rural lifestyle, this would probably probably take quite
a few, quite a few boxes for you. It's got
stunning views over the Monica Harbor, set on four point
three hectares of north facing land with six well fenced paddocks,
(39:02):
six thousand square meters of regenerating a swimming pool and
a seventy square meter garage. What's that? That's good enough for?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Three? Probably about three cars? That three or four cars,
I think, and it's r V. It's up there. Two
point four million. Estimate is two point one five, Just
showing how you don't always rely on the RV. James
is at a quick look at it. What do you
reckon James's.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Home gym and two cars.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's a home gym two that's what it is. Seventy
square meters that's what it is. A home gym in
two cars. That's well something. Is that real estate talk?
It's like a gym. How would you say that? And
set a stementy square meters you just say? And a
garage big enough for two potential just what you call potential.
That's the one. Hey, James, great to meet you. Thanks
for coming. And of course I mentioned the home show.
(39:51):
You guys are at the home show, aren't you? Yeah? Yeah,
what do you do there? Just say hello to folks?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Of course, yeah. Answer these type of questions.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You'll be able to go back and get it and say, listen,
let's just let's talk about like and maybe you could
do a whole presentation at the home show. Maybe not.
I'm sure it's more about replacements and replacement codings. Anyway,
that's James logan from Ruth Buddy. If you've missed any
of this hour and you want to have a have
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please go to the News Talk ZIBBI website and look
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it so and welcome back to the Weekend Collective. By
the way, if you miss any of the hours, you
can go and check out a podcast newstrik setbeat co
dot nz. This is the one roof radio show. Interestingly enough,
there's a little bit of counting Crows there, which has
been the selection. We always let our guests if they
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would like to choose the opening music for the show.
And I always feel a little bit guilty with when
I hear counting crows because my wife was is probably
still but more particularly was a big fan of counting
Crows and we were doing a road trip once and
there was a lot of Counting Crows, and I lightheartedly
mimicked the sort of slightly yelpy quality of the style
(01:47):
of the singer and did an impersonation of them, and
I completely ruined the band for her, and she said,
thanks very much, I'm never going to be able to
listen to them again. And so I think we've remedied it.
About twenty years later. I put them on one day
and I think she was able to put it to
one side and enjoy them again. But anyway, obviously a
fan of Counting Crows is our guests were going to
be talking about roof roofs, roofs. Hang on a minute,
(02:09):
roofs or roofs. That's almost a grammar question. Now I
don't know the answer to that, tire eager bit of
go google that roofs. Yeso roof roofs. How is your
roof doing? Anyway, we're going to talk about root roofs.
When did your last check it? For many of us,
the roof is one of those last things that slips
your mind until it's raining inside, and that's probably the
time when you want to get something done, hopefully beforehand.
(02:31):
But I mean, how often are you checking your roof,
what maintenance actually needs to be done, and more importantly
interestingly right now, of course, I think in Auckland there's
a home show going on right now. And actually we
replaced our roof at home. Obviously at home, we replaced
our roof a few years ago before COVID. Anyway, not
(02:52):
long before COVID and I actually did choose the roof,
I simply because I met them at the home show
and got them to come around and give a quote
and away we went. Anyway, but we're going to talk
about roofs, roofing and joining me. He's the founder and
director at roof Buddy, and he's with us for the
One Roof radio show and also a Counting Crows fan.
I imagine James Logan. Get James, how are you going?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
All right? Very well? Thanks, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I'm assuming counting that with that, is that your
top of the top of your bangers, you sort of
get in the car you want to pick me up
at are counting Crows?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, it's a bit of a wink and a nod
to my father who'd be driving us up to the
beach house with Counting Crows.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, in the Bluefish.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Isn't it funny the memories that music can just trigger
with you just and that's well, that's the magic of
music anyway. Hey, look, so talking about roofs, just tell
us a bit about you first before we get into
the in the conversation. But if you're listening and you've
got any questions around roofing roofs and you or an
opinion about you'd like to share with us your experience
(03:54):
about the mistake you made when you were choosing to
get your roof repaired or replaced. But how did you
tell us a bit about you, James?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, So I came out of university at the sort
of middle of the GFC, found it quite hard to
get a job, so it was forced into entrepreneurialship and
started an air conditioning business that grew quite large. And
so I've always been in the property industry per se,
and got into some property development here and abroad. And
(04:23):
then when I came back to New Zealand started a
roofing company, found that the industry was reasonably under serviced
from a service perspective. It was quite difficult to get quotes.
So the company that we were doing supply and installation
with went very well, very quickly, and then founded roof
Buddy as a way to increase the scaling vector because
(04:44):
we just weren't able to effectively process all of the
sales that we were getting.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
From scaling vector is jargon, I guess from me, what
does that mean for people who are listening? What's the
scaling vector?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, it was a rate limited in terms of fulfillment
for installation. So the idea with roof Buddy was to
take the technology and the sales process that we've developed,
and now we have up to one hundred roofs around
New Zealand who bid on the marketplace providing competitive, comparable
quotes for roofing work.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, so it's because actually I remember when we did
get our when we got our roof done, and I
did get a couple of quotes, and one of them
was massive and then one of them was quite I thought,
are pretty good. In fact, I know I wasn't suspicious
of it because we ended up using them, but it
(05:34):
was I think it I think we're talking about would
have been close to double, just about but not double,
but let's say seventy or eighty percent from memory. It
was a lot more expensive and I actually just be
honest with you, I thought, I don't know, I don't
know where to go with this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, so with like larger transactions like roofs, is a
real informational asymmetry without between the buyer and the seller
and seeing quotes that are perhaps twice what another quote is.
You really don't know what to do with that, because well,
is it apples for apples?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Actually one of the things you mentioned that through your
business as it's putting a bunch of roofers together to
compete for quotes. But it's one thing to get a price,
and I mean this goes beyond roofing, of course, doesn't it.
It's one thing to get a price, and it's another
to sort of work out why one is cheaper than
(06:29):
the other. Are they just trying harder for the business
or are they struggling for business because they're not very good?
I mean that's the thing with all building, I guess.
But you were saying before the show that there's a
difference with you would licensed building practitioners when it comes
to you know, putting some timber and framing and plouting
and all that thing up. But is roofing the same
or is there an issue there.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Well, so what you're looking for is competitive comparable quotes, right,
so that the specifications are the same across all the
quotes that you're reviewing, so that you know you're getting
the same thing from each service provider. But then to
your point about the track record and qualifications the service provider,
So in New Zealand we have formal qualifications for registered
(07:11):
building work such as installing a new roof on a
new home. But for a reroof you and I, being
entirely unqualified, would be legally capable and allowed to go
out and sell it and install it together right this afternoon?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Really? Yes, so hey you mentioned you're entirely unqualified.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I'd have a pretty good idea of what to do,
so I'd probably lead the project.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, I just measured my pulse there and it just
went up to ten percent. But so hang on. So
to install a roof commercially for someone else, I mean I.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Could reroofing versus new build.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay new builders Lvpporry.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You need to be able to sign that off as
a licensed building practitioner. A reroof is completely unregulated.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So anyone can stick on a roof.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Correct, and it's arguably difficult more difficult than a new roof.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We certainly got a few aspects to it, doesn't it
certainly not to.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Mention take a fifty year old structure, it's not as
clean as a brand new structure in terms of the
you know, timber being straightened, level and all of that
sort of stuff. So it's yeah, it's a bit of gap.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. So of course then there's materials as well, I guess,
and actually, to be honest, I think in terms of
the quote that I got for our houses, for our house,
it was basically using the same sort of steel. I mean,
it's long and what's the what's the expression. It's long
run sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Corrugated.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, well it's ridged, you know, the one that's sort
of like six inches, and then it's another ridge and
it was just basically ten by ten roof flat pitch
where we go.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, so that's the most common roofing material in New Zealand.
I think eighty percent of roofs would be long run metal,
long time and then but there's a minority that would
be tiles and ten tiles and things like that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
How much Okay, we'ld love your calls on this if
it goes beyond roofing as well. About it. You know,
if you are trying to choose a trades person or
business or company to do the gig for your house,
how did you go about choosing them? Because there is
the other side of it. I would have thought the
last thing you wouldn't get many too many DIY roofers though,
(09:22):
would you in terms of doing their own roof I
would have thought they would have be just on the
slightly risky and silly side.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean it's a pretty important part of the structure.
So yeah, you'd have to have some good trade capabilities
in the household if you were considering doing it with
friends and family.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, So I mean how I mean your business is
about helping people sauce a roof of Before you had
set up your business, how would you have approached getting
the right contractor for a gig? Because if you're in
the business, of course word of mouth, you know, people
and stuff. But how would you have if you weren't
using a business like you?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, invariably, I think I found what a lot of
homeowners find is that it's very frustrating. So you put
in for when we do do it, and we're doing
make at research before we started the business, and I
put an inquiry in with thirty five roofing companies and
genuinely needed a new roof on my business.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We went to thirty five companies.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, got three calls back.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Who are okay, I think that's it. You didn't get
thirty five quotes? Well, how many quotes? Actually, how many
quotes for you would be enough?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, we only got one quote back in that exercise,
But what we procure for people in the course of
say twenty four hours, would be between three to five
competitive comparable quotes. That's that's a good spread.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And how would they decide in the end.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So on our marketplace, we also have reviews and track
record and quality assurance measures as well, so you can
benchmark the roof as performance against each other on the marketplace.
But you know, you also want to research them online
and you meet them at the property, get to know
them and yeah, and review their qualify.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's another question for you for your listening. I mean,
you can get online reviews, but how much of the
decisions for the callers? You can give us a call
on that. On eight hundred and eight ten eighty. When
it comes to choosing someone to do your roof or
any other major job on your house. How much do
you how much do you rely on maybe reading some
online reviews versus Actually I'm still a bit old school,
and that's probably why I went to the home show
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and I chatted to someone and it was just the
I mean, some people are good salespeople as well, but
it was something in the conversation that I thought, Okay,
I think I might give you guys a go, come
around and give me a quote. I mean, how would
you have done it in days gone by?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, same way you've got. It's very time intensive, and
that's the point, I guess. If you've got no way
to accurately assess the qualifications and track record, you have
to go off instinct. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Quite inconvenient to chase those people around because they want
to meet you at the property during business hours. You've
got to go home, you've got to be there. Often
they don't show up on time, so it can be
a bit of a rigormarole to get things done.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, we'd love your calls on this. In fact, we've
got to call it. Let's kick it off and we're
going to get quite how you mentioned your own qualified,
but you do have a fair bit of knowledge about
roofs as well, so you can give us a call on.
I think you might have been understating a little bit,
but in terms of formal qualifications. But yeah, if you've
got any questions about your roof, about how long you
can actually maintain it before before it gives up the ghost,
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because we pushed ours for a long time and I
was trying to think, why do we actually replace ours?
I can't remember why, But anyway, let's take your calls
on that. OHA one hundred and eighty ten eighty tony
get a.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Excellent? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
What are your eck excellent?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well? I wish my roof was excellent. I put a
new one on about maybe five years ago, and it's
had a lot of lichen in the time I got
it sprayed round about March this year, and I've only
lost possibly twenty percent of the liken, so there's an
awful lot still up there. We've had a hell of
a lot of rain, which is what the chap told
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me it would take to wash it all away. Well
it hasn't happened, and somebody told me recently, like it's
it's color steel long run, and they said that whatever
it is that attaches the liking to your roof has
the ability to go through the paint and into the
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iron and will eventually cause holes bloody, thereby negating your
warranty because you didn't care for it adequately.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, So how is yours are sloped roof? Is it flat?
And what is it if?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Oh, it's it's a nineteen hundred house as in the
year nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, okay, so it's good.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yeah, decent pitch gables, bloody.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Bla gables, bloody blah.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Oh well, I didn't think you want the hold.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, that's good. That's pretty good of you to
just standing James. What's your what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
So?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Are you in the bush anywhere? Tony and tidering something
like that? No, we're in Northcote on the roof or
is it? Can you get the line?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Most of the roof gets a heck of a lot
of sunshine.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So yeah, Lichens just an organic material, right, So it's
it's alive and it's growing on the roof. Oftentimes it
proliferates more if it's shaded, or if it stays wet.
So that's why I asked, if you're undercover or away
from the light, you've got to kill it, you know,
if you've sprayed it once and it hasn't done the job,
You've just got to keep going and you get a
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more and more aggressive chemical until it's dead, and then
you can use a high pressure water blaster to take
it off. But once it's gone, it shouldn't come back.
The reason it keeps reproliferating is because it's alive, you know,
like a like a bacteria or a mold type thing.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Gets what gets it on there in the field. Because
actually I've been up. I mean, I am a little
bit diy when it comes to clean the roof. And
we're a two story house, so I've got the extension
ladder and I like to think I'm pretty careful. You're
looking at me going, oh God, your trouble. But I've
but I've sprayed my own roof for liken, and now
I'm talking to you with all the rain, I think
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because it's not perfectly you know, we do get a
little tiny bit of pulling water because it's flat pitch right,
Where does it get there in the first place. Is
it just because there's a tree nearby and something blows
off it and the way we go.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's similar to algae in the pond, right, So yeah,
it's like it's coming in on the wind and finding
a place that it likes to grow.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What did you get it sprayed with, Tony?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's all I can say is a chemical. And apparently
to the chap who uses it, it was a new chemical.
So he said he was using me as an experiment somewhat.
He came back every two weeks to have a look,
and after about four or five visits he said, oh, yep,
that's working. But I've just had a further look, and
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I don't believe it has worked adequately.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I wonder how many people are listening right now who
think they were. I mean, don't go and climb up
on your roof, please if you've never done it before,
especially if you've never done it before. But I wont
how many people are just thinking. I wonder what is
actually up there? Because now you've got me thinking about it, Tony,
so I've got all paranoid about the like, and I'm
probably going to get up there and find it's a
forest of like it, and I'm going to get really depressed.
But any further there, James.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Your spot on. You've got to get rid of it
because it will eventually damage the paint system. Work its
way through, get through the galve and you'll be into
the substrate. So keep working on it.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Now, that's my paranoid because as an elderly chat I
put it on to see me out and if I
get holes in it, I won't be able to afford
to replace.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It easier in summer too, So wait till November and
have another crack, because you get more light on it,
you get twenty dry days in a row.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, we thought March was good because you know it was.
It was still pretty good weather and the heavy rains
has yet to come would give it a time to work.
And anyway, it is what it is, so I do
have every right to expect it to deteriorate further without
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additional treatment.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Go to get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Actually, by the way, what is the story with warranties
on roofs, because I would have thought that it's part
of the fact that you are a roof that you're
going to get exposed to a lot of foreign materials
and stuff. What are the rules around having a warranty
about the color, steel or whatever it is lasting?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, So there's two types of warranties, as a workmanship warranty,
which is on the mechanical efficacy of the roof to
keep water out. That's an installation question. And then you've
got the material warranty, which, to be fair, is very
hard to claim on. Usually there's a reason that it's
not going to be a claimable event because it's very
unlikely the roof failed due to the failure of the
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material in paint, galvanization or substrate, So it's usually going
to be an external.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like and actually just for how should you not get
like enough because I imagine you don't want to be
with a toothbrush. Well, I mean, but in terms of
enohing too violent.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
As well would hurt the Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't
want to use a four thousand psi water blaster that's
going to blow the paint off as well, So you
know you've got to use you want it to be
dead and then it comes off easily. Yeah, Right, if
you're trying to take it off when it's alive, it's
going to hold on.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, I think probably get a contractor to do that stuff,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah, I highly.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Recommend that too. When you're looking at me going, oh
you need your Henrid. Okay, hey, Loo, we're going to
take quick break. Take more calls. Eight hundred eighty ten
and eighty thanks for yours to get us rolling. Tony
talking about maintaining replacing your roof with he's the founder
of roof Buddy. James Logan. Will be back in just
a moment. It's twenty five past four News Talks. It
be Tim Beverage. This is one Ruth Freddy Esham, a
guest is he's the founder director of roof Buddy, James
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Logan talking about repairing and looking after your roof. When
do you replace it? Your questions and calls or what
advice Bob get a Yes.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Gentlemen, it's nice interesting subject you're talking about, and I'm
interested in my roof. It's a pretty nearly a thirty
year old house which I built and it had will,
my wife and I and it's got a tile roof
and we maintained it over the years and had treatment
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so there is no moss, mold and gunge on it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I'd like an advert and carry on. Now you
just used an expression which a well known advertiser used.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
He's a well, no exactly, but it's not that product.
But you know what I mean. Anyway, But I had
I recently had the house painted, and we built it
as a low maintenance so it's it's a tile roof
and a brick veneer thing, so there's not a lot
of painting to do. And now the guy was doing
some stuff and the painter and he said, a bit
worried about your roof, he said, And he took me,
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went up there and put his hand on it. And
the tiles were a painted tile. Well I suppose they
were a monia tile, and they were a denim blue
color when we bought them. And this product is now
there's no gunge on them, but the there is a
like a powder. And he put his hand into a
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wed handled it and comes away and all this stuff
is stuck to it.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Okay, well, what caused it?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Or is it detrimental to my I mean the house?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The tiles?
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, okay, James, what do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Is that a tin tile with an aggregate like a sand?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
It's a concrete tile. A concrete tile, and they were
painted den and blue.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, and the coating's coming off when you rub your
finger across it.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Well, it's thirty years old. Yeah, yes, if you rub
your finger across it, it will cut that there was
a red as you did it, because they faded over
the years.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay, got So does that mean there's a problem with
the porousness maybe of the.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Oh that's that's my question to you. Do you think
do I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
A concrete tile is mechanically capable of lasting another forty
to fifty years from the thirty that you've already had,
So what you're really two can considerations are is how
it looks and keeping it maintained. So and you're dead
right about the porous nature with concrete tiles. Often over
time they suck in the coating product, so you know,
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getting it treated as great, keeping it clean is great.
We use a liquid membrane called Guardian seal, which we
would coat a roof of about that age, and it
creates a membrane over the top of it, and that
increases the longevity and closes those pores and improves the aesthetics.
But unless you're concerned with how it looks.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Actually that does not as do not concern me. The
functionality is my consent.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Okay, well you might want to get someone I mean,
I think you want to get an expert to have
a look at it in person. There, Bob. But I
guess what we're saying is it might be a case
of just some sort of protective coating rather than any.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Over time.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, when was that.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Oh, probably about five years ago. They Silica, the firm
that does the gun stuff, said we can do a
silicon which makes it could sort of help the runoff
because and see the water ran off rather than soaking in.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, well that sounds promising that if you have any questions,
I would have thought you would be advised to get
somebody ever look at it, wouldn't you, James.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, you'd have to see it before making an assessment.
But mechanically, concrete tile roofs are great, especially if you
keep on top of the maintenance like things like like
and aesthetically they degrade, you know, reasonably quickly, so getting
them recoated and repainted.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Just on that. Because I've noticed there are a lot
more I've noticed a few more adverts for coatings rather
than replacement, which obviously when people are feeling like the
economy is not that great and who wants to replace
the roof? If you can re I mean, how effectively
can it be done? And in which circumstances would a
coating be the answer rather than ripping it off and
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replacing it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It entirely depends on the condition of the roof. So
you've got roofs that are in an intrim condition, which
is where I'd say a liquid membrane like Guardian seal
would be appropriate, where they're not too far gone that
the substrate has been impaired or compromised or proferated. But
once it gets past a certain point, you're looking at replacement.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Is that rust or is that lichen that would lead
it to that position?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I mean, li Likeen could contribute, it wouldn't cause you'll yeah,
I mean, it's all about the substrate. So if you're
cleaning and coating and you're substrate still in good condition
and it's still mechanically sound, you're going to get another
ten or fifteen years out of it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Out of the coating. Of course, Oh well that's bloody
good news, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
If you get there quick enough, right, so, but if
you go past a certain point and it is a
judgment call.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So okay, well, here's another quick question, and before you
go to the course, we've got a lot of callers
lined up. How often should you get your roof inspected?
I mean a color steel roof, let's go with. I
know that's a brand, but you know what I mean
a steel roof long.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Run, Yeah, I mean arbit arbitrarily inspecting it I think
would be mostly unnecessary. I mean, if you have if
you're keeping it clean and you're clearing the gutters out,
and it's relatively new, you know, you want to have
a look every five years or something like that, so.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I don't need to get it even with the liking thing.
How should be checking from.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You've got to get rid of that. I can see
that from the ground, though I can't y, so you.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Know it, I've got to get up six meters.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
In that case, I'll be checking it every time I
get someone to.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Come around and hold the ladder these days. Okay, okay,
more questions from you, Brian. Did I Yes?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Today, I've got a flat roof house and I'm almost
up on top of it, and I'm just wondering about
one of those seals that you've talked about, whether that
could be applied. But there are little patches of rust
on us, and I've replaced certain parts of It's kind
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of a long run steel is painted kind of kind
of profile.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So is it draped, so is it sort of lower
on the gutter ends than in the center, and it's
sort of bent over in the middle.
Speaker 10 (25:14):
It has it has a slight fall on it, you know,
it doesn't it's it's it's almost completely planted to it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sounds like ours has technically got a bit of a
slope to it. But because of property building shifting, there's
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So yeah, a few were sensible consenting rules wouldn't allow
that type of roof. You know. Nowadays minimum pitch should
be three degrees eight's preferable. So it's a bit of
a quirk of the historical building code that those structures exist,
and they're they're relatively difficult to deal with, to be fair,
I mean, technically the best thing you can do is
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go and get a building consent and have the whole
structure repitched, so adding structure to get it up to
a fall and then reroofing it which is expensive. Yeah,
price prohibitive in most cases, So you end up either
trying to convince someone to repitch it without a consent,
which obviously registered building works being done without a without
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the appropriate consenting, or you're replacing it like for like,
which is doubling down on a losing strategy.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Why you you said you're always up on your roof?
Why you always up on your roof?
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Brian, Well, when you own a flat roofhouse, you can't
take anything for granted. So when you get rain events,
you've got to be There are internal gatherings that can't
be accessed from the ground, so you've actually got to
be up there and looking out. And we're not talking
about those houses in the nineties. You know they had
those the leaky house syndrome. This house was built in
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the seventies, so you know it's but it could still
be a design thing that's probably not so great. But yeah,
those in the gatherings and things, you've got to clean
them out.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So keeping those gutters clean is absolutely imperative. And then
you can do overcoat with membrane ducks into those gutters too,
which extends the life of them by in order of magnitude.
And then to your point with the steel sheets, you
can strip those back and reseal them depending on the condition.
So it's you know, if you're getting to it early,
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it sounds like you're doing a lot of maintenance, which
is good, but just.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Be careful getting Is it a one story house, Bryan.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Yeah, it is a one story house. But I'm seventy
next year, so I don't want to be doing it
the little.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hurts to fall off to Yeah, we take care of yourself.
Thanks for your call. We're going to take a quick moment.
We'll be back, and just to take this as news
Talk z B twenty three minutes to five. Yes, News
Talk zed B. By the way, just a quick thing.
Don't always you don't necessarily need to go for Who's advertising.
Go to your local hardware store and have a chat
with people about different products because they generally got a
good take on what gets rid of like a mob
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but that seems to be the topic of the day
with the Liken in the Mold and talking about roofs
with the founder of roof Buddy, James Logan. Diet Oh,
hang on, Diane, where'd you go? Disappeared there? Quentin Good a.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Good ay, hips, I've got a conservatory with the clear
corrugated roof over the top and the not that ident
thing it's like, and it's probably mold or something that's
it's built up in the joins the nine hundred or
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whatever they are. And I got a piece of corrigated plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And you've got a bit muffled there, Quentin.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Oh sorry, okay, I've got a bit. I got another
piece of small piece of corrugated plastic and put rag
over it and tried to move it, but it wouldn't move,
So I think it's it's really stuck on. So I've
spoken to the different mold and gunge people. They tend
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to put their hands up because of the the acrylic
that the chemicals might affect the critic. But how am
I going to get rid of that ugly stripe down
each each joint of the corrugations.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, well, if it's been you know, colored, the material
will have lost its color or been stained. So perhaps
even if you remove it or get rid of it,
that section of perspects probably need to be replaced if
you want it to look good again.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Okay, so that's the whole seat.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they just don't stay looking good
for for forty to fifty years, you know. I mean,
if it's about twenty five thirty years and you haven't
replaced it's it's probably had its good innings already, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah. I have a suspicion that during the course of
this show there's a lot of people that are googling,
getting rid of like and.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Make it look good again, replace it exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Calvin Gooday, Calvin's just slip at the wheel for a second.
So I'll put them back to I'll put them back
to our producer there, just to get his attention. John.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hello, Yeah, I like him as well. Hi, John and
Otatahi nineteen eighty six two story house with gray sort
of steel roof and then there's two sort of windows
on top of the roof with another roof on top
of that. You know, there's it's like a bishop's hat.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
It will A guy came around this morning actually and
had a look at it. He said it needs to
be scaffolded. Yeah, and then he said he's going to
water blast it before he really spray paints at the
light gray that it is, you know, And I'm just
wondering whether it needed to be chemically treated before it's
sprayed painted.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Again, if you mean, if you're going to be painting
it or putting a membrane over it, which is a
superior solution, you certainly want to make sure that there's
no organic material alive because otherwise you're encapsuling that inside
the new paint system and it all you know, spread
underneath the paint.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, so it's got to be meticulously cleaned off before
it gets recoated, definitely. And yeah, to the point about scaffolding,
if it's over twenty five degrees and double level, you know,
he's probably right, which will be you know, probably half
the cost of the job at that point.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Okay, it's good luck with that, John. Actually, the scaffolding,
I mean, I guess that's where the quote thing comes
as as well as I mean, if I think that
was one of the big parts of the cost of it.
But the guys who did my job, they said, look,
we do our own scaffolding, and we just don't think
it needs to be that expensive. And I guess that
ticked the box for me. But the scaffolding these days,
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somebody was texting saying, oh, scaffolding as well, blows the
quotes away and whatever happened to working with a harness.
But yeah, it's just a fact of life, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You, I mean it would be pretty uncomfortable replacing a
roof off harnesses. I mean, other than being completely illegal,
wouldn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, good on you, um Calvin, Hello, Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
What I'm wanting to find out, in general terms, the
possibility of replacing a dec roymastic tile roof with that
painted long run, which I call is sort of a
squared off version of corrugated iron in general terms, do
you normally is that able to be done on the
same timber work or do you have the alter the pitch?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, so you're you're talking about a trapezoidal profile by
the way, so that's a metal sheet with a pan
and an upstand, and it definitely can so, but what
you need to do is have the Perlins redone because
the spacings for the fixings are different between the tin
or the dechromastic tile and the long run. So they've
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got an effectively put horizontal timber through the whole roof cavity.
And typically that's that's just the requirement to convert, but it.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Is that's pretty straightforward. In other words, it's not actually
altering the pitch, is it. It's just going long long
ways where the at the moment where the dechromestic tiles
are nailed on, that's the part the timberdee you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Anti Yeah, that's right. So you've got to reperl in
it so that you've got the fixing behind where you're
going to screw the iron onto. But it's considered like
for like, so there's no consenting requirement or anything like that.
So as long as you've got the new perlins on,
I mean what you don't want, and I mean any
good roofer wouldn't do this, but then to just go
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straight over and double skin it, and you see a
lot of that was done in the nineties without just
rolled straight over the dechromatic tiles and screwed the new
roof iron roof on to the top of it.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, cheers Calvin. Actually it's with your business, roof buddy,
for people who are replacing them their roofs. Is it
also encapsure that business as you do coatings and peers
and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Definitely. Yeah, So like asbestos encapsulation like membrane coatings on
commercial properties that you just can't afford to take the
roof off because it's a business interruption all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What sort of I mean, if you're talking about cost,
I say it's thirty grand to replace your roof, I mean,
what sort of ballpark percentage are you're paying for a
coating instead.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It depends on the complexity of the roof. So if
it's a very simple roof, like two straight gables, you're
probably talking about about a third the cost, say about
a half. But if you've got a very complex, multi
pitch roof there's all sorts of angles and carry on,
that's a very expensive reroofing job, but a relatively sort
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of a third the cost in terms of my carain coating.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
So is it a spray on membrane that how it
works or is it sort of rolled onto it and
sort of molded into place. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
The polyurethanacrylic that goes on the flat sections, that's roller applied.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
The memory that goes onto the roof surfaces themselves, that's
a spread gun.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay, right, let's take another call more questions. We don't
forget one roof property of the week, which I suspect
the one roof property of the week again is something
where my producer Tire is shopping round for where she
might like to live. And I'll give you an idea
about her taste and property and just to call it
a wild guess. It's because it's sort of a nice
house in a rural setting. Just call it a wild guest.
I was actually wondering if it was her place for
(35:29):
a second. But we'll be back with that after the break,
But first it is Helen Hello.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Oh, yes, good afternoon, him and your right. Hi. Now,
this is an interesting topic for me because I live
out in the country and I've got liking on some
things and not on others. Like macrec Harper battens. I
had a whole lot of them put on because they
were untreated, and the likings all over that treated posts
(35:54):
no like and at all. Now I had a when
I moved here, there was no buildings except there was
a very old shed which eventually collapsed. Now that's long run,
unpainted iron. No liking that I can call on that.
I'll have to go and have a look at the
pile of the you know, the pile of ten that
I've still got I've got a cabin that I'm not
(36:17):
able to get up onto, but nobody's ever mentioned like
and it's long run, unpainted, galvanized. But I can see
and I can't see any liking from down, you know,
on the ground. But clearly, more clearly, I've got a
half half round barn, long run, unpainted, galvanized, no liking.
The tool that I can see that was I have
(36:41):
that there now they both these dwellings are about thirty
something years ago. And now I'm just wondering if and
I've had about fifteen years ago, I had a porch
with zinkerloom roof, but five degrees no, no, no painting. Now,
I haven't got any liking on that that I can see. Now,
(37:03):
I'm wondering if there is some materials like in s
actly attracted to and roof, etc. Yeah, and so that
they've got like him, but I can't see any at all.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay, Okay, Helen, I'm going to leave it there and
we'll just get James answered maybe one or two questions.
And there are there particular materials that are like and
is more attracted.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
To think of liking as like an algae bloom right,
So it gets introduced to an area and it attaches
to what it wants to grow on. And yeah, so
it's obviously loving certain materials at your property and and
not so much others. And yeah, the way to get
rid of it is to treat it with the chemical
and let it dry out and die.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So okay, hey, thanks for your call. We'll be back
with one roof, the one with Property of the Week
in just a moment. This is news. Talks have been
nine and a half minutes to fine.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
The one roof Property of the Week on the Weekend Collective.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, the one roof probably the week is a bit
of a bit of a teaser for you, because as
I mentioned, it's it's one that my producer would probab
really quite like. And it is as I suddenly reached
for the bits of paper that I've misplaced on it,
and which we'll do just right now. It is in
Karraka Franklin. It's sixty three. Oh, I've got to pronounce
(38:19):
this right, Fott Parker Road. It is four bedrooms, two bathrooms,
two car garage. The house is two hundred and thirteen
square meters and it's a lifestyle property. It's well presented.
It's I mean, it's not the Ritz. It's just a
really nice property with a fantastic outlook. It's got a
pool there as well, and a rural outlook with a
(38:41):
lovely big long driveway, plenty of parking off the road,
looks and a beautiful looking garden. And if you're looking
for a rural lifestyle, this would probably probably take quite
a few, quite a few boxes for you. It's got
stunning views over the Monica Harbor, set on four point
three hectares of north facing land with six well fenced paddocks,
(39:02):
six thousand square meters of regenerating a swimming pool and
a seventy square meter garage. What's that? That's good enough for?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Three? Probably about three cars? That three or four cars,
I think, and it's r V. It's up there. Two
point four million. Estimate is two point one five, Just
showing how you don't always rely on the RV. James
is at a quick look at it. What do you
reckon James's.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Home gym and two cars.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's a home gym two that's what it is. Seventy
square meters that's what it is. A home gym in
two cars. That's well something. Is that real estate talk?
It's like a gym. How would you say that? And
set a stementy square meters you just say? And a
garage big enough for two potential just what you call potential.
That's the one. Hey, James, great to meet you. Thanks
for coming. And of course I mentioned the home show.
(39:51):
You guys are at the home show, aren't you? Yeah? Yeah,
what do you do there? Just say hello to folks?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Of course, yeah. Answer these type of questions.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You'll be able to go back and get it and say, listen,
let's just let's talk about like and maybe you could
do a whole presentation at the home show. Maybe not.
I'm sure it's more about replacements and replacement codings. Anyway,
that's James logan from Ruth Buddy. If you've missed any
of this hour and you want to have a have
a catch up and listen to the conversation we've had,
please go to the News Talk ZIBBI website and look
(40:20):
for the Weekend Collective. We'll be back talking with John
Cown for the Parents Squad. This is News Talk zaib B.
It's three and a half minutes to five. You get
some more then you steal you.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
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