November 8, 2025 • 40 mins
The weather has been warming up recently and it might be time to get working on the summer bod before beach season - but are we too late in the game to get going?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Don't care, don't found that I'm down and welcome back
to the Health Ub. It's funny. Just as I was
talking to my producer try about the song, I said,
is this the one that goes how? And as I
said how how?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
How literally? I timed it perfectly with diseasytop going how how?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
How?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I wonder where you came up with that song? That sound?
When where do you go? Where does the word where
does how? Come from? That's quite original in a ways,
easy toop, isn't it. Anyway? Look, welcome into the show.
This is the Health Hub and we want your calls.
Of course I know one hundred and eighty ten eighty
and text nine two nine two just before we get
into this how I look for it? Also to talking
(01:12):
with Hamish Pepper for Smart Money. He's from harb Rassect Management,
about is the economic recovery underway? And when will you
feel it? But right now? Of course you know that
we've had some gorgeous weather and at my neck of
the woods last couple of days, even today, it was
supposed to be not that flash and it was another
gorgeous day, and it does have your thinking a little
bit about how do you get the summer bod ready
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before the at the holidays? But we're well into November
and maybe it feels a little late in the game.
So here's a couple of questions we're going to explore
with our guess who are introduced in just a moment.
But how quickly can you make a noticeable difference to
the way you look and feel? How quickly have you
made a noticeable difference if you've ever transformed your body,
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how quickly did you do it? And if you did
it too quickly, did you just turn back into a
blob a few months later? Or is getting your I
of a sudden This line was getting your bikini bod
ready more of a year round effort. I don't know
what the male equivalent to the bikini bod is anyway,
But how do you reprogram yourself and have a plan
that sticks, that lasts longer than the latest fat anyway?
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To join us to discuss that and all those issues
and taking your cause. He's a health coach and his
name is Kent. John's good Kent.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
How are you going him?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I love the start was Zzy top. Man, I didn't
realize you had it in you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I mean obviously I didn't, because I had to
say to my producer, is this the one that goes
ha ha ha? And anyway, hey, have you got your
bikini bod ready?
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Kent?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Has it ready to ride?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Jeez, I've been swimming. If that counts down down to
just the bed trunks.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You just go topless. Of course, we leave the top
of your bikini at home.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, my part, Laura says to me. She says, you
really should be wearing a rashie a rash shit. I
just can't do it, man, I just get too claustrophobic.
So no, oh, I've put on the oily toxic sunscreen
to look after my skin and hope I don't get burnt.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Actually, ah, so how long are you swimming for.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Just to go to the beach?
Speaker 8 (03:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Like you were talking just before, put on the rash
shirt so I don't have to look at you.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
No, put on the rash shirt to protect your skin.
You're numpty And I'm like, I can't. The rash is
not for me. I can't do it. So I put
on sunscreen, which I know is not the world's greatest
thing for your skin. But I don't know as a lobster either,
So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Hm, I'm sort of caught in the middle. Mate, don't well, if.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You're going to the beach, I mean, who was to
wear a rash shit? When you're just relaxing at the beach.
You want to be there, you know, just feeling the
breeze free and easy. I'm completely with you. I mean,
you can take a sun umbrella or something or just
I don't know. Anyway, I don't know where I've gone.
I was going with the old bikini chat and all
that sort of thing. Hey, how quickly can you change
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your body? And if I just brack at that with
a second question, how quickly can you feel that you're
making a change in your body?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Well, that that's the key one, I think is the
second part of it.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Because we can all wish to be a desired weight.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
We can all wish to look like we did when
we were twenty five, or we want a six pack,
or we want really nice chest and big biceps or
whatever it might be, and we get frustrated with stubborn fat.
So how we actually look is part of it, But
how we actually feel is the bigger part, tim because
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how we feel is a better indication of how we're
actually going. And I preface that by saying I believe
that to be true because I've worked with plenty of
men of coach, mainly men more so than women, And
often guys will say, look, I don't have the body
that I would like, but man, I feel great and
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this is what I've done, and they'll reel off a
list of things that they've changed. And I mean, I wish,
I wish I had a hit of hair. I wish
I looked like I did when I was younger, perhaps,
but that's not the reality. But I know the age
of forty eight, just for myself, that I feel way
way way better than I would have done ten years ago,
and so for me, that counts a hell of a
lot more than how I look.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
How much of a transformation have you undergone physically? You know,
before you got into the healthcack side of things? What
were you not like before that?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Probably not a massive one.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, I was pretty awesome anyway?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Were you always pretty awesome? Anyway?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Mate, I was.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I always thought I was pretty much out of shape,
and it wasn't until the weight just fell off me
one day that I thought, oh man, you weren't out
of shape, you were overweight.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So I lost some weight, which wasn't a goal. I
know we've talked about that before.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
But I also know plenty of guys out there that
are slogging their guts out, wanting to change, hoping to change,
and it might be that they just slot not quite
doing what they what their body is wanting them to do.
And so then it comes back to, okay, so what
are they eating? You know, what are you eating? What
fuel you are you throwing in the engine. So you
come back to the metaphor of the car throwing dirty
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fuel into a Ferrari engine. And if that is the case,
then the Ferrari won't be as efficient as you would
like it to be. Therefore it won't look as sleek
as you would like it to look.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Because I've heard also, I can't remember what it was,
just recently that one of the problems when people start
exercising it was that they are just their diet, not
even necessarily that consciously, just because they've got a bigger
appetite and they're not actually if they stuck to their
existing nutrition, that would probably help, but they subconsciously think, oh,
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I've done a couple of big workouts today, I might
have that extra sausage or that extra piece of steak,
and so they're you know, they maybe they are actually stronger,
maybe they're a little bit fitter, but they are no
slimmer or leaner because they've subconsciously adjusted, have adjusted there
given themselves permission to eat more.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, that's that's true. I think that happens quite a lot.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I don't think there's anyone out there tem that's really
got the right to be eating what they would like
to be eating all of the time. Guy made a
comment to me a couple of weeks ago and said,
I'll bet you that you can pretty much eat whatever
you like.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And I'm like, nah, man, that's not how it works.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Like people, to look after yourself, you've got to eat
well eighty to ninety percent of the time, and so
that when you do choose to go with something that's
not flash for you, it's hopefully not enough to derail things.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So I think you've.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Touched on something else because I'm not sure that this
is completely true for me. But I genuinely eat what
I want. But I don't want to eat a lot
of crappy food. You know what I mean? I think
because you know what my wife buys and what we
have to eat. Generally. I mean, maybe I would look
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at portion size would be my thing, but I don't
generally think, you know what I mean. It's about having
the appetite where you are happy with eating and don't
worry by the way people I don't eat a marvelously
fantat a diet where you'd go a nutrition is going
to go your rockstar team. But I do tell me that,
you know, I just sort of go, maybe I don't
feel like eating that much today, and they have the
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odd bit where I'm quite hungry and I do go
for it, and then other times I just don't, and
I don't know if I feel lucky, is what I'm saying,
That I don't crave a six pack of sausages every day.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I think my point is that you might think you
can get away with eating whatever you like because perhaps
you're one of those fortunate people.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I'm speaking generally here.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You know, you know people that have a reasonably quick metabolism,
or they think they do, and they don't put on
a lot of weight.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
And so we look at them and we go, man,
he's in good nickel. Man. He can eat whatever he likes.
He doesn't seem to put on any weight.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
That person might be skinny, fat, they might be metabolically sick,
but they don't look at So that's the point that
I'm making about eating.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
We would like to be eating. No one gets a
free pass.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Chances are if you're eating a lot of rubbish that
you are going to pay the price for that in
some form. It might just be that you look great
and that you're actually sick.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So how quickly do you have you seen people transform themselves?
I mean quick?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, tell us weeks weeks into what going from low energy,
low motivation to do anything, kicking themselves about, not feeling
great about themselves, low self esteem, to feeling like I
can be optimistic.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I've found something that works. I'm on the right track.
And this is what I've started to notice. Yes, I
have lost some weight. That might be three kilos, it
might be eight or ten. You know, I'm coaching a
guy at the moment who's lost nine kilos in about
eight weeks because he's.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Doing Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Yeah, and he's a big guy, And there's more to come,
but he's doing really well. But beyond that, to what
he's noticed is he has more energy. Therefore he feels
better about getting out and moving. His skin is improving,
the bags under his eyes are starting to disappear.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And he said to me, look, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
I feel well. I actually feel like this is working
for me. So that's what I talk about when it
comes to noticing change. That's a pretty short period of time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So what does tell us again, he's lost nine kilos
and what eight weeks or something?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, nine kilos in eight weeks?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
When did you start from? Just to give us some perspective, Oh,
but big.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Unit, I won't I won't give you eight I won't
give too many details obviously, but plus that, yeah, mid fifties,
and it's taken him a long, long, long time to
get to the point where he wanted to change. I'm
talking decades here, but it's only taken a couple of
months for him to realize I'm on the right track.
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This weight has come off a lot quicker than what
it would have been to put on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So which was the biggest change he made? Exercise on
nutrition or and and how much you know and how
much of a change did he make?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's interesting question because this comes up a lot. Which
is the which is the bigger of the two? Is
it that which comes first? Is it the nutrition or
the exercise? Is it the exercise or the nutritions? The
chicken or the egg. They are both great leavers to pull.
In my experience, when you are wanting to make a
start on a health journey, go with food because eating
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well will give you the energy that you want to exercise.
Because a lot of people who aren't moving, who aren't exercising,
think they're motivated, and it's not that. It's they don't
have the energy or the capacity mentally to make a start,
and it probably is because they're not eating well enough.
So you make that one change, all of a sudden,
you reduce the amount of process food, reduce sugar, start
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eating more protein, start eating full of fats. You'll have
more energy. Tim guess what the body actually wants to move?
I guess we all want to move. The body doesn't
want to be sedentary, it really doesn't. It wants to
be out there moving. So you eat well, all of
a sudden, you'll have the energy to move, which is
exactly what's happened in this guy's case.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I guess it is also the end of every individual
is different because you might get some people who are
eating a relatively healthy diet most of the time. Yeah,
they just haven't made the time to exercise, So that's
right for them, it's just get on, get those shoes on,
and do something now, I mean today.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And actually, yeah, for people who eat well and they're
not exercising or moving and they don't feel as good
mentally it's or as sharp. Yeah, it's probably because they're
so busy with work they haven't been able to make
the time or have chosen not to make movement and
exercise a priority.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So you're right, everybody is different.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The message I gave I've had a knee injury which
stopped me running for which I'm still not back running,
which has been a bit problematic. But my physio said
to me, like you said, if you've got if you've
got a bike, et cetera, and get on the bike.
And I put it off, and then I started to
feel a bit, you know, stink about things. And then
I suddenly thought, hang on a minute, if I start
to go for a ride today, then this is the lowest.
It's all good from here, every every step. And that's
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the message I give myself is that and ass So
that's how I got started. It's like, well, if this
is as bad as you are, if this is as
bad as it gets, then you're going to be better
in half an hour because you have done something about it.
And that's one of the things I'm trying to tell
myself to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And look, it's very very rare that you'd go out
and move and exercise and come back and feel worse
for it unless you picked up an iglaur.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I can tell you something quite funny. Because I had
the dirty old HEMI oh yeah, well I won't go
into it, but I can tell you something quite I
think it's reasonably funny. So I went for a half
hour ride and I you know, you once you get
warmed up and everything, you know, you know, you covered
a bit of distance and and got home and I
felt fine. Sitting on the bike. I thought, actually, I
could probably do another half and no, but I didn't.
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And as soon as I stepped off the bike, my
legs were like jelly. It was. It was quite weird
that I was I'm fine, I'm rocking and rocking and
rocking and rolling, and all of a sudden, oh, goh
my god, I'm absolutely naked. I don't know. It must
have just been, you know, that that movement of the bike,
and as soon as I've changed my difference and posture
or whatever, that was like, oh my goodness, I'm quite naked.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But I think we've been conditioned over the years tim
to think that, Hey, if I want to get in shape,
I want my body to look good, I have to
thrash it. I have to go to the gym, and
I have to lift weights, and I have to run,
and all of those things are great, But the missing
part of the conversation is Nutritionent, you can't get yourself
in shape if you're eating poorly.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We want your stories on it, and if you want
to get some advice from Kent about getting into the
summer fitness, because it sounds to me, look what do
we ninth and November here? I reckon this is potentially
quite exciting in a way that if we take what
Kent's been saying about you making the change today, tomorrow, whatever,
then in the space of what is it till Christmas?
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Six weeks oh, gosh, it's only about six weeks still Christmas.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Coming into Carol season.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Man ah oh, have I got a deal for you?
But anyway, if it does, it's not too late. So
if you want to make the change. But if you
have made the change, how quickly did you make the transformation?
We'd love your calls. But if you want to pick
Kent's brains right now on how to get yourself back
in shape, then give us a call on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty PEPs. There's a particular hurdle you've
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got to try, and it amount a problem. Shared is
a problem. Have to give us a call. We'd love
to hear from you. This is News Talk Z B.
Kent John's as our guest. It's twenty one past four.
I wouldn't normally read out a text like that, so
I read this one from Mars. He's a bit grumpy,
says he going to read any text or just or
cause or just talk damn all damn days is muss Mars.
You can give us a call. We've got lots of
text to get to. But anyway, you know, I just
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thought i'd share that just to and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Now you Yeah, most of your listeners probably know that.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Once upon a time I was in your shoes, tim
sitting where you are doing what you do, and I
remember getting a text message one I think I was
doing the night show one night on Radio Sport and
someone said, Kent, do you realize how much you talk?
It's like, yeah, I think I think I do.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
When few people are calling, guess what, it's my job
is to just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, it's quite funny, isn't it. I mean, I mean
literally they just described your job. Do you realize it?
You know? It's what is it called? It's news talk,
it's not news. Get down and do some push ups
z B. By the way, actually that is something I
did want to touch it touch on with you. So
it's a sise snacking up exercise snacking. I think one
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of our sports hosts here does it. That narrows down
the name, so I'm not sure if what's supposed to
mention it, but he does. In a break he'll do
a few push ups and another breakjacent tinne.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Isn't it no.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Darrying it down even further. It's got one of those
posh names, you know, lots of syllables. Darcy Waldergrave I
think he's talked about that. What Dars is doing, I
think he does he does push ups and stuff and
he'll do some squats or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Well, it's really good, good for people tim out of
time pour So going for a walk after lunch is
great because what it does is helps with insulin sensitivity.
It helps move the gluecoast through your body after you've
just eaten. So it's actually a really good idea. And
if you can do twenty to thirty minutes, fantastic. If
you can't push.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Ups, what about doing getting down and giving a minute
to worth of moor.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Air squats or go into a wall set for a
couple of minutes. Something like that can be just as
beneficial is going for a walk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Oh god, it makes me feel like I need to
do some push ups or something. There's a fat chance
of that though, because that's the benefit.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Like the annoyance of having an Apple watch that bings
you every forty.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Five minutes it's time to get up and move like
it's a double edged sword for me.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Annoying but also ah, yes, I do need to stand up.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
I've been sitting for too long. Maybe I'll pop down
and do a few.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh I've just seen the other text that Muzz. The
reason Muzz had a crack at me, not for reading
as text, is because he sent me another text earlier
on and here it is Kendo, and you'd read it. Well,
I'm about to. You're lucky I'm reading it. Muz given
you a being obnoxious and all that. Can you ask
Kento as a fifty three year old X broken rugby player.
I'm assuming that's you, Muz, not Kento, because he's in
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his early.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Just forty eight broken down football play.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Can you ask Kendo, as a fifty three year old
X broken rugby player, how to get rid of bally
flat bally fat without giving up alcohol and coffee? Please?
Says Mars, Well, you know you don't have to give
up alcohol.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
How much do you want to lose the belly fat
would be my question to Mars.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, how much are you drinking would be the first question.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
What are you prepared to do to lose the belly fat?
Because sadly I wish this wasn't true. Very good chance
the alcohol is playing a big part there.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Man, especially well if it's ber or actually the other
thing is soft drinks an amazing amount of sugar in
those because if you have a few I don't know,
gin and tonic two or three times a week, that's
probably not going to really frighten the horses too much,
is it.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, it's such a big calorie load that the body
doesn't do anything with it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It doesn't use it for energy.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Contrary to what people think, it doesn't go oh well,
thanks for giving me all of this energy in the
form of alcohol, or burn it, ah man. The liver
converts that stuff to fat. And where do men love
to lay down? Fat around our belly? So if you
want to lose belly fat, you need to get your
insulin down. To get the insulin down, that comes back
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to what you're throwing in. Alcohol can be a contributor,
although not necessarily with insulin, but sugar and process food
as well, because what else you're throwing in your mouth?
Anoig question there for us, so hopefully, hopefully Mars. If
you think about where you want to go, what your
goals are, how do I want to look what's getting
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in the way of that? Start to reverse engineer tom,
you start to work backwards, and often you can arrive
at a question what am I prepared to do to
get what I want, and it might mean making a
change or two.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Interesting that he says, giving up alcohol and coffee. I'm
not sure coffee is the devil, don't it mean if
you have a coffee right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Sofie won't be the problem for belly fat.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So there you go, Mars. You can keep up the coffee,
but you might need to examine your alcohol consumption to
be honest. I mean you can put these days. You
could these days, you could stick your alcohol consumption, probably
even into an AI thing and say is this too
much alcohol? Will probably go yeah, you're having this number
of units. I mean information's information.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
And the safe number for alcohol now is zero a
courtesy of the World Health Organization.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They don't equivocate anymore.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
And so I will maybe have a couple of beers
a week, or keep it to one glass of wine
or anything like that. The answer is zero, which is
not what we want to hear in New Zealand, is
it given our booze culture.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
By the way, with that's the truth, we are favoring
the text. But if you want to jump the queue,
then you give us a call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, Bross says, you can't exercise a bad
exercise away a bad diet. End of story.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, bang on man, Professor Tim Noakes out of South Africa,
world renowned. I think he came up with that one.
You cannot outrun a bad diet.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
A true word spoken.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Here's I'm not sure what you'll have to say on
this good good talk. Thank you. Do you suggest powdered
natural protein powder plant based to help add more calories?
I wonder if it is quite processed. I'd like to
stay away of processed foods, especially if I'm not absorbing it.
I'm seventy female, quite active, support grandchildren, light on weight,
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want to add more condition. Thank you. That's from Jackie.
There's a lot in that text, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
A lot in there.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, I'm not there are people that know more about
protein powders than me, but we do know that yes,
they are high in protein, but they are also octra
process so I can understand why people are a little
bit unsure about taking them. So my suggestion would be
talking to a personal trainer or to someone who works
in exercise physiology who may have a stronger view on that.
Tim Upping proteins a really good idea whole protein sources
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are good. Yeah, whole foods best way to absorb nutrients
to eat food, and obviously you want to then work
out how that best suits you around your training schedule.
So I know people that swear that they need to
eat and fuel up before they go to the gym,
whereas for other people, they just find it bloats them
and they know good and this performance degradation, so they
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actually would rather have a meal after they've gone to
the gym or after they've gone for a run.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Do you know much about the kettlebell workouts? That's one
of the things I was chatting with someone about who
was talking about that. What is there's kettlebell swings somebody's
telling me about and it's such a simple it's a
complex exercise, but it is a simple looking exercise on
the whole where you basically are swinging between your legs
with two hands. I mean, you have to get coaching
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on this. But how effective are those It's a bit
like we're talking about those snacking on exercise, But apparently
ten or fifteen minute workout doing the kettlebell swings with
the right.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Weight leave to believe it's pretty effective.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, have you ever done them none.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Although although being at the Men's Muster a few years ago,
the former All Black Case Mews was down there and
he had us hurling kettlebells over crossbars, but over our head,
like picking up and hurling it over our heads over
the crossbars.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Actually, if there's anyone I can imagine nailing the kettlebell swings,
it will be Case Mews probably or some of those
All Black props.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Because you should have seen him on the scrum machine.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That would have been he was doing more.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Than I think four or five of us together.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Bloody helly. So I guess the big question is if
you are going to transform yourself how The biggest problem
for people is doing something and sticking to it. So
what is your advice around reprogramming yourself so that that
you know, Okay, it's easy when the sun's shining and
it's lovely, calm day and the you know, the grass
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has just been freshly cut and you're feeling the feel
of summer, But that's not going to be enough to
keep you going long term. How do you reprogram yourself best?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I think transformation is often thought to be a destination.
Oh no, when I'm there, I've reached them a destination.
We're an actual fact. Health is a journey rather than
a destination. Terms, so the important stuff, if you think
about the important stuff, there's actually no finish line, like
eating well, regular movement, managing stress, prioritizing sleep, connecting with
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your mates, all of that stuff, all of that really
important stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
There's no finished line.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
So I think that would be where I would start
as far as a transformation, quote unquote would go, what
is it going to look like?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And how can I make it sustainable?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
How can I make sure that I just tick things
over and that I don't see this as a finish line,
because I've had many people say to me, just give
me the damn pill. How can I want it now?
Like varucas whatever varuk assault from Willie Wonka. And I
understand that you've been living in pain for fifteen to
twenty years. You've lost your feel the natural fear as
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to how you should be health wise. You just want
to wave a magic one and have that all disappear.
If only it was that easy. But to be encouraging here,
tim it is quicker to get healthier than it is
to get sick. And I've given you the example of
one of the guys that I've been coaching recently, and
often it's a good idea to ask yourself this important question,
when was the last time I felt really great? When
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was the last time I felt myself? When was the
last time I felt healthy? And it might be five
or ten, fifteen years, And then flip it over and say, Okay,
will it take me that long to feel good again? Well,
what the answer is, no, it won't take that long.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So what were his expectations going into it?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
As expectations were, I'd want some help to feel like
my self esteem can be back to where it should be,
that I feel good about myself now. Obviously body image
self image is a big part of that, but also
just feel just that inherent feel that ease of being.
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We want to feel the ease of being. We don't
want to feel heavy and feel encumbered and burdened by
our own thoughts and our own expectations on ourselves to
that we may not be reaching.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
So having that ease of being thinks a big one
as well.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
And just starting out and doing little things, and man,
I cannot tell you the number of times that people
have said this to me. Doing small things has led
to enormous change, small changes, massive change, And I believe
that to be true for most people because I've seen
it and I've heard it.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, it's a really powerful thing.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It's the key actually about what your expectations are. So
if somebody says, you know, I want to look like
the anatomy chart sort of physiology, then that's going to
be an expectation that's going to be easy to fall
off because you're going to get disillusioned, as opposed to
the feel good about myself feels like intuitively an expectation
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that you're going to start to meet quite quickly.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
That's right, So drop the fact that you want to
be eighty three or eighty five kilos, because that's a destination.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I mean, what happens when you get to eighty three? Keylos?
What do you do? Then?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Like the goal should be I want to feel bloody
good about myself. I was talking a client a couple
of days ago, and I asked, in that very question,
what do you want for yourself?
Speaker 5 (27:09):
And he said, I want to feel like the.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Flesh Right now, you can't define, you can't define what
that is or what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
But he will probably know when he gets.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
There, what a great motivation, and it might and it
might be that he's eighty kilo's and it might be
that he's eighty five. So drop drop the notion that
I need to be such and such, and go with
an inherent feel for how you're doing, how you're tracking.
And please notice the notice the change, Notice what you're doing,
give yourself the credit for making some adaptations of adaptations,
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and just see as you can pick up on how
you're feeling, how you're going, what the benefits might be,
because until you stop and ask, sometimes you're doing really
well to.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Him and you're the last person to see it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Hey, we'd love your calls. One hundred and eighty, ten
and eighty. If you've made the transformation, what was it
that worked for you? Was it the what sort of
expectation did you have, what was your goal? And how
quickly did you manage to make a difference in your
own outcomes that made you happy with the progress you're making.
It's twenty two minutes to five news talks. He'd be
all right, let's get into the cause with Kent. John's Brent.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hello, Yeah, I'm just out on me walk and listen
to you on the Higheart Radium. I said, you might
be interested in my story. So beginning of the I'm
seventy six years old. Beginning the year lost my wife
and sort of a few problems there, had a few
health problems, and I was put on a drug called
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prig in his zone and I was generally round about
one hundred and one hundred and twelve hundred and thirteen.
Immediately shut up within about three weeks to one hundred
and thirty eight. I thought this is no good march ape.
I had a stroke and was just a pretty minor stroke.
So I thought it's about time to do something about it.
So when I waited myself this morning, I was one
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hundred and two. I go for I've got one of these.
It's not an Apple watch. So I got those, saying
some watches that I do twenty about twenty five to
twenty eight thousand slips a day and which is around
about ten about ten ten eleven kilometers, So I do
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a walk in the morning and walk at nighttime. So
so I'm really happy on one of those. I use
some of those powdered shakes that you mentioned before. There's
two shakes today the watch tells me that I burned
a thousand and thirty five killer jewels on the walk,
and the Shakers eight hundred and fifty killer jewels, So
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do the mass.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So that's that's my story, and it's easy to do.
And what I finally now is if I don't go
for a walk, I get depressed because it becomes like
a habit and I really enjoy it year.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So it's my story, and hopefully Brilliant can't. It's down
the line there can't, Brent can't. Walking is bloody good exercise,
isn't it?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
It is? It is? And look I run, you run.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
But I also make time to try and go for
at least one or two good long walks a week.
That clears the head, gives me some thinking time. It
sounds like Brent's done exactly that, and I think he's
onto something too. The term with exercise, because we feel
so good, we get what's called the dose response. We
get all of those endorphins and all of the oxytocin
and serotonin and what have you.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You do actually miss it when you're not doing it.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
So another good way to feel or to take note
of how you're doing is any tension that you're feeling physically.
Are you feeling irritable? Are you feeling like the body's
wanting to move? And that could be because you haven't
been doing as much walking as would be desirable. And yeah,
when you get into a routine and when you get
into a bit of a roll, you feel deprived, don't
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you when you don't get it?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Ket what brands? Sorry? What was your initial aim when
you I mean you said you obviously went through some
tragedy and sadness there as well, But was it the
stroke that basically just you thought I've got to do something?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Well, there was that, but also I suffer from a chess,
a chess complaint, and I was on five forty and
a half of a day and now now I'm not
taking those four half of it all. I've reduced my medal,
reduced my medication by by thirty percent, and the doctor's
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real happy, and I'm even better. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Hey, thanks for sharing that with us, mate, and congratulations awesome.
Hey James, Hi.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Hey, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Good?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Thanks James?
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, so a bit of my journey. I'm forty now,
and so in my young twenties, early twenties, I was
I was seeing five six times a week at the gym,
you know, featuring one forty as you do, and had kids,
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got man like, got married, had kids and sort of
let myself go and and then went through a sort
of heartbreak and got separated. Ultimately let myself go. And
and I was one hundred and ten kilous. I'm five
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eleven at on the on the on the larger side.
And about six weeks ago, you know, I started a
a carnivore type diet, not not to it, not to
its word, but just eating lots of meat, lots of
protein and going back to the gym. And I almost
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feel like I'm on I'm on some substance because my
brain has feels like it's been rewired. And I'm back
down to ninety five. And like you guys said, I
to be honest, is something that triggered me to give
you guys a call because I was like, I'm going
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to be eighty five and that's it. But it sounds
like maybe I just need to reevaluate that.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And yeah, instead of for a particular weight, it's the
way you feel as your motivation now, is it?
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Yeah? Absolutely, it's it sounds to me to me, it's
I don't know what I'll end up with as long
as I'm eating healthy, and I'll probably stick to the
carnival diet for a little bit longer. I like the
chicky beer every now and then watching the footy, But overall,
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I'll feel a million times better than what I was
feeling six weeks ago, and and just just being in
the right mental state and looking forward to something. It
could be a walk, could be around the golf, or
or could be at the gym, just just to get over,
just to get over that.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
He can I ask you can?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I ask the question, buddy, So in the last six weeks,
what foods have you not been eating and have been
staying away from?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Specifically?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
I guess, yeah, good, good question there anything from like that?
Could be rice. I used to get takeaways a lot.
I still get takeaways. I just don't eat like i'd
have I'd have chicken, beef, pork, rice, sorry pork, But
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not have any carbs. Not have any sort of processed
foods or any anything that's in the can that that
and yeah, any anything fried like chips. So if it
grows on the ground then I probably won't need it.
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It's just a bit of a weird thing. It's it's
more of a social it could be a social media thing.
I don't know. I haven't spoken to any in the office,
like any nutritionist or anything like that. It's just I
felt I've heard a lot about kind of what I
want to give it a go, and first three days
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were horrible, and the next the next few weeks have
been great.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Good on you, mate. Actually, what I heard there was
he giving up the fries and the cart and the
excess carbs and processed foods was the big one.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
That's the key part of it, right, That's that is
the key component when when people talk about a dietary
approach to him, which is why I always wonder, what
is it that you've taken out? And yeah, man, if
you've if you've reduced the carbohydrates like James has, the
process carbs, then yeah, that's that's a good sign for
most people that you can get on that path pretty quickly.
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He's what did he say? He feels a million times
better next week, just six weeks. But I would expect
I would expect that to be the case too. I'd
absolutely expect anyone to feel great. I've hard out that
sort of food for six weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Good stuff, right, let's go to Dave good a good.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I was.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Back when I was thirty five and fifty now, I
was trying to kind of get real lean to rock climbing.
It's pretty keen on rock climbing. And yeah, I as
discovered the West and no price foundation and ended up
cutting out sugar for a month and lost five kilos
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in that time. I've done quite a lot of exercise
just as an agriculturist, so dragon exer branches into a
chiplin stuff, but you're lost by kilos. But sort of
started getting I was still on sort of low low
fat diet pretty much sort of high progime loaf fat,
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no sugar, and then yeah, I started adding Yeah, I
started getting constipated, so added a bunch of animal fats
back in and lost another couple of kilos. It's maybe
three kilos and I'm six or tried. So I was
crazy lean at the time and not starving myself, baying me.
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I had like danes in my abs and my back
and stuff, and yeah, felt great, and yeah, I just
sort of carry that on and I tend to train
just before dinner and then just have, you know, sort
of steaking eggs and maybe a couple of little bits
of potatoes or something like that. But yeah, it's maintained
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that no problem for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And do you feel that I'm working for you?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah? Yeah. And I also I'm fifty now. I've had
a broken arm, quite a badly broken arm for six months,
and I've still not right put a little bit of
weighed on, but just yeah, gone back to sort of
pretty much carnival or at dinner like that guy was saying,
just and trying to exercise I reckon before dinner. Yeah,
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I mean you don't feel like having dars and eating garbage.
You sort of have a natural high.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, thanks Davie. I mean that exercise thing
does also affect the way you feel about eating. I guess,
doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Ken, Well, yeah, man, if you've gone out and smacked
out a workout or a run or a game of
tennis and you're feeling great, chances are you will make
better food choices. By the way, if you've noticed him
that they have worked for you recently. So yeah, some
really good stories from Brent James and Dave nice work.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Good stuff, by the way, when it comes to carnival
diets and things like that, do get the advice of
your nutritionist and don't just take what your next decision
is going to be based on, you know, the cause
we might have taken. It's always good to refer to
a nutritionist and get some good advice on that stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Absolutely talk to a dietician they know.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, eight minutes to five, we'll be back in just
to tick newstalks 'b Yes, welcome back. My guest is
Kent John's just before the next hour will be with
Hamish Pepper. We're talking about whether the economic recovery has kicks,
has got underway or not and what'll it take for
you to feel it. But Kent just thought We finished
with a text here from bed. It says I'm about
to turn seventy, I'm over eight one hundred and twelve kilos,
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used to run, haven't for fifteen years, and I'm thinking
about getting back into running. Apart from taking it gradually,
what would you suggest hm taking it gradually?
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I think Bead's got it sorted.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Make a start, see how you go and just notice
what the benefits are from going for the run, and
can you then build it in as part of your
weekly routine.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Because I think he wants to not take it gradually,
he says, apart from taking it gradually, but I think
you have to take it gradually, especially if haven't run
for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
It's amazing, though, when you take it gradually, how quick
you can accelerate the process.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
To him, you can.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Those get running programs aren't too bad either, are they?
Where they start with a bit of walking and ease
you into it.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah, going slow can get you going quick for sure.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Before you know, you'll be back into that man Kenny
along with Kent John's. I can see you brocking the
man Kenny, can't you know?
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Lime Green? Not so sure.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Not sure. Laura will be too thrilled, She says, I
meant rash shirt, not I don't know whatever that exactly. Anyway, Mate, where.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Do people next? Yeah? I just google my name. People,
you can't miss me. I'm out there. You've got my number,
you got my email, Adris Kris John's.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Thank you for more from the Weekend Collective. Listen live
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You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Don't care, don't found that I'm down and welcome back
to the Health Ub. It's funny. Just as I was
talking to my producer try about the song, I said,
is this the one that goes how? And as I
said how how?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
How literally? I timed it perfectly with diseasytop going how how?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
How?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I wonder where you came up with that song? That sound?
When where do you go? Where does the word where
does how? Come from? That's quite original in a ways,
easy toop, isn't it. Anyway? Look, welcome into the show.
This is the Health Hub and we want your calls.
Of course I know one hundred and eighty ten eighty
and text nine two nine two just before we get
into this how I look for it? Also to talking
(01:12):
with Hamish Pepper for Smart Money. He's from harb Rassect Management,
about is the economic recovery underway? And when will you
feel it? But right now? Of course you know that
we've had some gorgeous weather and at my neck of
the woods last couple of days, even today, it was
supposed to be not that flash and it was another
gorgeous day, and it does have your thinking a little
bit about how do you get the summer bod ready
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before the at the holidays? But we're well into November
and maybe it feels a little late in the game.
So here's a couple of questions we're going to explore
with our guess who are introduced in just a moment.
But how quickly can you make a noticeable difference to
the way you look and feel? How quickly have you
made a noticeable difference if you've ever transformed your body,
(01:57):
how quickly did you do it? And if you did
it too quickly, did you just turn back into a
blob a few months later? Or is getting your I
of a sudden This line was getting your bikini bod
ready more of a year round effort. I don't know
what the male equivalent to the bikini bod is anyway,
But how do you reprogram yourself and have a plan
that sticks, that lasts longer than the latest fat anyway?
(02:20):
To join us to discuss that and all those issues
and taking your cause. He's a health coach and his
name is Kent. John's good Kent.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
How are you going him?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I love the start was Zzy top. Man, I didn't
realize you had it in you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I mean obviously I didn't, because I had to
say to my producer, is this the one that goes
ha ha ha? And anyway, hey, have you got your
bikini bod ready?
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Kent?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Has it ready to ride?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Jeez, I've been swimming. If that counts down down to
just the bed trunks.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You just go topless. Of course, we leave the top
of your bikini at home.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, my part, Laura says to me. She says, you
really should be wearing a rashie a rash shit. I
just can't do it, man, I just get too claustrophobic.
So no, oh, I've put on the oily toxic sunscreen
to look after my skin and hope I don't get burnt.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Actually, ah, so how long are you swimming for.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Just to go to the beach?
Speaker 8 (03:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Like you were talking just before, put on the rash
shirt so I don't have to look at you.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
No, put on the rash shirt to protect your skin.
You're numpty And I'm like, I can't. The rash is
not for me. I can't do it. So I put
on sunscreen, which I know is not the world's greatest
thing for your skin. But I don't know as a lobster either,
So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Hm, I'm sort of caught in the middle. Mate, don't well, if.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You're going to the beach, I mean, who was to
wear a rash shit? When you're just relaxing at the beach.
You want to be there, you know, just feeling the
breeze free and easy. I'm completely with you. I mean,
you can take a sun umbrella or something or just
I don't know. Anyway, I don't know where I've gone.
I was going with the old bikini chat and all
that sort of thing. Hey, how quickly can you change
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your body? And if I just brack at that with
a second question, how quickly can you feel that you're
making a change in your body?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Well, that that's the key one, I think is the
second part of it.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Because we can all wish to be a desired weight.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
We can all wish to look like we did when
we were twenty five, or we want a six pack,
or we want really nice chest and big biceps or
whatever it might be, and we get frustrated with stubborn fat.
So how we actually look is part of it, But
how we actually feel is the bigger part, tim because
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how we feel is a better indication of how we're
actually going. And I preface that by saying I believe
that to be true because I've worked with plenty of
men of coach, mainly men more so than women, And
often guys will say, look, I don't have the body
that I would like, but man, I feel great and
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this is what I've done, and they'll reel off a
list of things that they've changed. And I mean, I wish,
I wish I had a hit of hair. I wish
I looked like I did when I was younger, perhaps,
but that's not the reality. But I know the age
of forty eight, just for myself, that I feel way
way way better than I would have done ten years ago,
and so for me, that counts a hell of a
lot more than how I look.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
How much of a transformation have you undergone physically? You know,
before you got into the healthcack side of things? What
were you not like before that?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Probably not a massive one.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, I was pretty awesome anyway?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Were you always pretty awesome? Anyway?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Mate, I was.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I always thought I was pretty much out of shape,
and it wasn't until the weight just fell off me
one day that I thought, oh man, you weren't out
of shape, you were overweight.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So I lost some weight, which wasn't a goal. I
know we've talked about that before.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
But I also know plenty of guys out there that
are slogging their guts out, wanting to change, hoping to change,
and it might be that they just slot not quite
doing what they what their body is wanting them to do.
And so then it comes back to, okay, so what
are they eating? You know, what are you eating? What
fuel you are you throwing in the engine. So you
come back to the metaphor of the car throwing dirty
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fuel into a Ferrari engine. And if that is the case,
then the Ferrari won't be as efficient as you would
like it to be. Therefore it won't look as sleek
as you would like it to look.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Because I've heard also, I can't remember what it was,
just recently that one of the problems when people start
exercising it was that they are just their diet, not
even necessarily that consciously, just because they've got a bigger
appetite and they're not actually if they stuck to their
existing nutrition, that would probably help, but they subconsciously think, oh,
(06:38):
I've done a couple of big workouts today, I might
have that extra sausage or that extra piece of steak,
and so they're you know, they maybe they are actually stronger,
maybe they're a little bit fitter, but they are no
slimmer or leaner because they've subconsciously adjusted, have adjusted there
given themselves permission to eat more.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, that's that's true. I think that happens quite a lot.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I don't think there's anyone out there tem that's really
got the right to be eating what they would like
to be eating all of the time. Guy made a
comment to me a couple of weeks ago and said,
I'll bet you that you can pretty much eat whatever
you like.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And I'm like, nah, man, that's not how it works.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Like people, to look after yourself, you've got to eat
well eighty to ninety percent of the time, and so
that when you do choose to go with something that's
not flash for you, it's hopefully not enough to derail things.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So I think you've.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Touched on something else because I'm not sure that this
is completely true for me. But I genuinely eat what
I want. But I don't want to eat a lot
of crappy food. You know what I mean? I think
because you know what my wife buys and what we
have to eat. Generally. I mean, maybe I would look
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at portion size would be my thing, but I don't
generally think, you know what I mean. It's about having
the appetite where you are happy with eating and don't
worry by the way people I don't eat a marvelously
fantat a diet where you'd go a nutrition is going
to go your rockstar team. But I do tell me that,
you know, I just sort of go, maybe I don't
feel like eating that much today, and they have the
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odd bit where I'm quite hungry and I do go
for it, and then other times I just don't, and
I don't know if I feel lucky, is what I'm saying,
That I don't crave a six pack of sausages every day.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I think my point is that you might think you
can get away with eating whatever you like because perhaps
you're one of those fortunate people.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I'm speaking generally here.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You know, you know people that have a reasonably quick metabolism,
or they think they do, and they don't put on
a lot of weight.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
And so we look at them and we go, man,
he's in good nickel. Man. He can eat whatever he likes.
He doesn't seem to put on any weight.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
That person might be skinny, fat, they might be metabolically sick,
but they don't look at So that's the point that
I'm making about eating.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
We would like to be eating. No one gets a
free pass.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Chances are if you're eating a lot of rubbish that
you are going to pay the price for that in
some form. It might just be that you look great
and that you're actually sick.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So how quickly do you have you seen people transform themselves?
I mean quick?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, tell us weeks weeks into what going from low energy,
low motivation to do anything, kicking themselves about, not feeling
great about themselves, low self esteem, to feeling like I
can be optimistic.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I've found something that works. I'm on the right track.
And this is what I've started to notice. Yes, I
have lost some weight. That might be three kilos, it
might be eight or ten. You know, I'm coaching a
guy at the moment who's lost nine kilos in about
eight weeks because he's.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Doing Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Yeah, and he's a big guy, And there's more to come,
but he's doing really well. But beyond that, to what
he's noticed is he has more energy. Therefore he feels
better about getting out and moving. His skin is improving,
the bags under his eyes are starting to disappear.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And he said to me, look, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
I feel well. I actually feel like this is working
for me. So that's what I talk about when it
comes to noticing change. That's a pretty short period of time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So what does tell us again, he's lost nine kilos
and what eight weeks or something?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, nine kilos in eight weeks?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
When did you start from? Just to give us some perspective, Oh,
but big.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Unit, I won't I won't give you eight I won't
give too many details obviously, but plus that, yeah, mid fifties,
and it's taken him a long, long, long time to
get to the point where he wanted to change. I'm
talking decades here, but it's only taken a couple of
months for him to realize I'm on the right track.
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This weight has come off a lot quicker than what
it would have been to put on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So which was the biggest change he made? Exercise on
nutrition or and and how much you know and how
much of a change did he make?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's interesting question because this comes up a lot. Which
is the which is the bigger of the two? Is
it that which comes first? Is it the nutrition or
the exercise? Is it the exercise or the nutritions? The
chicken or the egg. They are both great leavers to pull.
In my experience, when you are wanting to make a
start on a health journey, go with food because eating
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well will give you the energy that you want to exercise.
Because a lot of people who aren't moving, who aren't exercising,
think they're motivated, and it's not that. It's they don't
have the energy or the capacity mentally to make a start,
and it probably is because they're not eating well enough.
So you make that one change, all of a sudden,
you reduce the amount of process food, reduce sugar, start
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eating more protein, start eating full of fats. You'll have
more energy. Tim guess what the body actually wants to move?
I guess we all want to move. The body doesn't
want to be sedentary, it really doesn't. It wants to
be out there moving. So you eat well, all of
a sudden, you'll have the energy to move, which is
exactly what's happened in this guy's case.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I guess it is also the end of every individual
is different because you might get some people who are
eating a relatively healthy diet most of the time. Yeah,
they just haven't made the time to exercise, So that's
right for them, it's just get on, get those shoes on,
and do something now, I mean today.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And actually, yeah, for people who eat well and they're
not exercising or moving and they don't feel as good
mentally it's or as sharp. Yeah, it's probably because they're
so busy with work they haven't been able to make
the time or have chosen not to make movement and
exercise a priority.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So you're right, everybody is different.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The message I gave I've had a knee injury which
stopped me running for which I'm still not back running,
which has been a bit problematic. But my physio said
to me, like you said, if you've got if you've
got a bike, et cetera, and get on the bike.
And I put it off, and then I started to
feel a bit, you know, stink about things. And then
I suddenly thought, hang on a minute, if I start
to go for a ride today, then this is the lowest.
It's all good from here, every every step. And that's
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the message I give myself is that and ass So
that's how I got started. It's like, well, if this
is as bad as you are, if this is as
bad as it gets, then you're going to be better
in half an hour because you have done something about it.
And that's one of the things I'm trying to tell
myself to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And look, it's very very rare that you'd go out
and move and exercise and come back and feel worse
for it unless you picked up an iglaur.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I can tell you something quite funny. Because I had
the dirty old HEMI oh yeah, well I won't go
into it, but I can tell you something quite I
think it's reasonably funny. So I went for a half
hour ride and I you know, you once you get
warmed up and everything, you know, you know, you covered
a bit of distance and and got home and I
felt fine. Sitting on the bike. I thought, actually, I
could probably do another half and no, but I didn't.
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And as soon as I stepped off the bike, my
legs were like jelly. It was. It was quite weird
that I was I'm fine, I'm rocking and rocking and
rocking and rolling, and all of a sudden, oh, goh
my god, I'm absolutely naked. I don't know. It must
have just been, you know, that that movement of the bike,
and as soon as I've changed my difference and posture
or whatever, that was like, oh my goodness, I'm quite naked.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But I think we've been conditioned over the years tim
to think that, Hey, if I want to get in shape,
I want my body to look good, I have to
thrash it. I have to go to the gym, and
I have to lift weights, and I have to run,
and all of those things are great, But the missing
part of the conversation is Nutritionent, you can't get yourself
in shape if you're eating poorly.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We want your stories on it, and if you want
to get some advice from Kent about getting into the
summer fitness, because it sounds to me, look what do
we ninth and November here? I reckon this is potentially
quite exciting in a way that if we take what
Kent's been saying about you making the change today, tomorrow, whatever,
then in the space of what is it till Christmas?
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Six weeks oh, gosh, it's only about six weeks still Christmas.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Coming into Carol season.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Man ah oh, have I got a deal for you?
But anyway, if it does, it's not too late. So
if you want to make the change. But if you
have made the change, how quickly did you make the transformation?
We'd love your calls. But if you want to pick
Kent's brains right now on how to get yourself back
in shape, then give us a call on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty PEPs. There's a particular hurdle you've
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got to try, and it amount a problem. Shared is
a problem. Have to give us a call. We'd love
to hear from you. This is News Talk Z B.
Kent John's as our guest. It's twenty one past four.
I wouldn't normally read out a text like that, so
I read this one from Mars. He's a bit grumpy,
says he going to read any text or just or
cause or just talk damn all damn days is muss Mars.
You can give us a call. We've got lots of
text to get to. But anyway, you know, I just
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thought i'd share that just to and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Now you Yeah, most of your listeners probably know that.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Once upon a time I was in your shoes, tim
sitting where you are doing what you do, and I
remember getting a text message one I think I was
doing the night show one night on Radio Sport and
someone said, Kent, do you realize how much you talk?
It's like, yeah, I think I think I do.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
When few people are calling, guess what, it's my job
is to just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, it's quite funny, isn't it. I mean, I mean
literally they just described your job. Do you realize it?
You know? It's what is it called? It's news talk,
it's not news. Get down and do some push ups
z B. By the way, actually that is something I
did want to touch it touch on with you. So
it's a sise snacking up exercise snacking. I think one
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of our sports hosts here does it. That narrows down
the name, so I'm not sure if what's supposed to
mention it, but he does. In a break he'll do
a few push ups and another breakjacent tinne.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Isn't it no.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Darrying it down even further. It's got one of those
posh names, you know, lots of syllables. Darcy Waldergrave I
think he's talked about that. What Dars is doing, I
think he does he does push ups and stuff and
he'll do some squats or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Well, it's really good, good for people tim out of
time pour So going for a walk after lunch is
great because what it does is helps with insulin sensitivity.
It helps move the gluecoast through your body after you've
just eaten. So it's actually a really good idea. And
if you can do twenty to thirty minutes, fantastic. If
you can't push.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Ups, what about doing getting down and giving a minute
to worth of moor.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Air squats or go into a wall set for a
couple of minutes. Something like that can be just as
beneficial is going for a walk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Oh god, it makes me feel like I need to
do some push ups or something. There's a fat chance
of that though, because that's the benefit.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Like the annoyance of having an Apple watch that bings
you every forty.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Five minutes it's time to get up and move like
it's a double edged sword for me.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Annoying but also ah, yes, I do need to stand up.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
I've been sitting for too long. Maybe I'll pop down
and do a few.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh I've just seen the other text that Muzz. The
reason Muzz had a crack at me, not for reading
as text, is because he sent me another text earlier
on and here it is Kendo, and you'd read it. Well,
I'm about to. You're lucky I'm reading it. Muz given
you a being obnoxious and all that. Can you ask
Kento as a fifty three year old X broken rugby player.
I'm assuming that's you, Muz, not Kento, because he's in
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his early.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Just forty eight broken down football play.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Can you ask Kendo, as a fifty three year old
X broken rugby player, how to get rid of bally
flat bally fat without giving up alcohol and coffee? Please?
Says Mars, Well, you know you don't have to give
up alcohol.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
How much do you want to lose the belly fat
would be my question to Mars.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, how much are you drinking would be the first question.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
What are you prepared to do to lose the belly fat?
Because sadly I wish this wasn't true. Very good chance
the alcohol is playing a big part there.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Man, especially well if it's ber or actually the other
thing is soft drinks an amazing amount of sugar in
those because if you have a few I don't know,
gin and tonic two or three times a week, that's
probably not going to really frighten the horses too much,
is it.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, it's such a big calorie load that the body
doesn't do anything with it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It doesn't use it for energy.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Contrary to what people think, it doesn't go oh well,
thanks for giving me all of this energy in the
form of alcohol, or burn it, ah man. The liver
converts that stuff to fat. And where do men love
to lay down? Fat around our belly? So if you
want to lose belly fat, you need to get your
insulin down. To get the insulin down, that comes back
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to what you're throwing in. Alcohol can be a contributor,
although not necessarily with insulin, but sugar and process food
as well, because what else you're throwing in your mouth?
Anoig question there for us, so hopefully, hopefully Mars. If
you think about where you want to go, what your
goals are, how do I want to look what's getting
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in the way of that? Start to reverse engineer tom,
you start to work backwards, and often you can arrive
at a question what am I prepared to do to
get what I want, and it might mean making a
change or two.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Interesting that he says, giving up alcohol and coffee. I'm
not sure coffee is the devil, don't it mean if
you have a coffee right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Sofie won't be the problem for belly fat.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So there you go, Mars. You can keep up the coffee,
but you might need to examine your alcohol consumption to
be honest. I mean you can put these days. You
could these days, you could stick your alcohol consumption, probably
even into an AI thing and say is this too
much alcohol? Will probably go yeah, you're having this number
of units. I mean information's information.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
And the safe number for alcohol now is zero a
courtesy of the World Health Organization.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They don't equivocate anymore.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
And so I will maybe have a couple of beers
a week, or keep it to one glass of wine
or anything like that. The answer is zero, which is
not what we want to hear in New Zealand, is
it given our booze culture.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
By the way, with that's the truth, we are favoring
the text. But if you want to jump the queue,
then you give us a call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, Bross says, you can't exercise a bad
exercise away a bad diet. End of story.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, bang on man, Professor Tim Noakes out of South Africa,
world renowned. I think he came up with that one.
You cannot outrun a bad diet.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
A true word spoken.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Here's I'm not sure what you'll have to say on
this good good talk. Thank you. Do you suggest powdered
natural protein powder plant based to help add more calories?
I wonder if it is quite processed. I'd like to
stay away of processed foods, especially if I'm not absorbing it.
I'm seventy female, quite active, support grandchildren, light on weight,
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want to add more condition. Thank you. That's from Jackie.
There's a lot in that text, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
A lot in there.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, I'm not there are people that know more about
protein powders than me, but we do know that yes,
they are high in protein, but they are also octra
process so I can understand why people are a little
bit unsure about taking them. So my suggestion would be
talking to a personal trainer or to someone who works
in exercise physiology who may have a stronger view on that.
Tim Upping proteins a really good idea whole protein sources
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are good. Yeah, whole foods best way to absorb nutrients
to eat food, and obviously you want to then work
out how that best suits you around your training schedule.
So I know people that swear that they need to
eat and fuel up before they go to the gym,
whereas for other people, they just find it bloats them
and they know good and this performance degradation, so they
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actually would rather have a meal after they've gone to
the gym or after they've gone for a run.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Do you know much about the kettlebell workouts? That's one
of the things I was chatting with someone about who
was talking about that. What is there's kettlebell swings somebody's
telling me about and it's such a simple it's a
complex exercise, but it is a simple looking exercise on
the whole where you basically are swinging between your legs
with two hands. I mean, you have to get coaching
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on this. But how effective are those It's a bit
like we're talking about those snacking on exercise, But apparently
ten or fifteen minute workout doing the kettlebell swings with
the right.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Weight leave to believe it's pretty effective.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, have you ever done them none.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Although although being at the Men's Muster a few years ago,
the former All Black Case Mews was down there and
he had us hurling kettlebells over crossbars, but over our head,
like picking up and hurling it over our heads over
the crossbars.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Actually, if there's anyone I can imagine nailing the kettlebell swings,
it will be Case Mews probably or some of those
All Black props.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Because you should have seen him on the scrum machine.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That would have been he was doing more.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Than I think four or five of us together.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Bloody helly. So I guess the big question is if
you are going to transform yourself how The biggest problem
for people is doing something and sticking to it. So
what is your advice around reprogramming yourself so that that
you know, Okay, it's easy when the sun's shining and
it's lovely, calm day and the you know, the grass
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has just been freshly cut and you're feeling the feel
of summer, But that's not going to be enough to
keep you going long term. How do you reprogram yourself best?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I think transformation is often thought to be a destination.
Oh no, when I'm there, I've reached them a destination.
We're an actual fact. Health is a journey rather than
a destination. Terms, so the important stuff, if you think
about the important stuff, there's actually no finish line, like
eating well, regular movement, managing stress, prioritizing sleep, connecting with
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your mates, all of that stuff, all of that really
important stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
There's no finished line.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
So I think that would be where I would start
as far as a transformation, quote unquote would go, what
is it going to look like?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And how can I make it sustainable?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
How can I make sure that I just tick things
over and that I don't see this as a finish line,
because I've had many people say to me, just give
me the damn pill. How can I want it now?
Like varucas whatever varuk assault from Willie Wonka. And I
understand that you've been living in pain for fifteen to
twenty years. You've lost your feel the natural fear as
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to how you should be health wise. You just want
to wave a magic one and have that all disappear.
If only it was that easy. But to be encouraging here,
tim it is quicker to get healthier than it is
to get sick. And I've given you the example of
one of the guys that I've been coaching recently, and
often it's a good idea to ask yourself this important question,
when was the last time I felt really great? When
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was the last time I felt myself? When was the
last time I felt healthy? And it might be five
or ten, fifteen years, And then flip it over and say, Okay,
will it take me that long to feel good again? Well,
what the answer is, no, it won't take that long.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So what were his expectations going into it?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
As expectations were, I'd want some help to feel like
my self esteem can be back to where it should be,
that I feel good about myself now. Obviously body image
self image is a big part of that, but also
just feel just that inherent feel that ease of being.
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We want to feel the ease of being. We don't
want to feel heavy and feel encumbered and burdened by
our own thoughts and our own expectations on ourselves to
that we may not be reaching.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
So having that ease of being thinks a big one
as well.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
And just starting out and doing little things, and man,
I cannot tell you the number of times that people
have said this to me. Doing small things has led
to enormous change, small changes, massive change, And I believe
that to be true for most people because I've seen
it and I've heard it.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, it's a really powerful thing.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
It's the key actually about what your expectations are. So
if somebody says, you know, I want to look like
the anatomy chart sort of physiology, then that's going to
be an expectation that's going to be easy to fall
off because you're going to get disillusioned, as opposed to
the feel good about myself feels like intuitively an expectation
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that you're going to start to meet quite quickly.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
That's right, So drop the fact that you want to
be eighty three or eighty five kilos, because that's a destination.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I mean, what happens when you get to eighty three? Keylos?
What do you do? Then?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Like the goal should be I want to feel bloody
good about myself. I was talking a client a couple
of days ago, and I asked, in that very question,
what do you want for yourself?
Speaker 5 (27:09):
And he said, I want to feel like the.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Flesh Right now, you can't define, you can't define what
that is or what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
But he will probably know when he gets.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
There, what a great motivation, and it might and it
might be that he's eighty kilo's and it might be
that he's eighty five. So drop drop the notion that
I need to be such and such, and go with
an inherent feel for how you're doing, how you're tracking.
And please notice the notice the change, Notice what you're doing,
give yourself the credit for making some adaptations of adaptations,
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and just see as you can pick up on how
you're feeling, how you're going, what the benefits might be,
because until you stop and ask, sometimes you're doing really
well to.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Him and you're the last person to see it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Hey, we'd love your calls. One hundred and eighty, ten
and eighty. If you've made the transformation, what was it
that worked for you? Was it the what sort of
expectation did you have, what was your goal? And how
quickly did you manage to make a difference in your
own outcomes that made you happy with the progress you're making.
It's twenty two minutes to five news talks. He'd be
all right, let's get into the cause with Kent. John's Brent.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hello, Yeah, I'm just out on me walk and listen
to you on the Higheart Radium. I said, you might
be interested in my story. So beginning of the I'm
seventy six years old. Beginning the year lost my wife
and sort of a few problems there, had a few
health problems, and I was put on a drug called
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prig in his zone and I was generally round about
one hundred and one hundred and twelve hundred and thirteen.
Immediately shut up within about three weeks to one hundred
and thirty eight. I thought this is no good march ape.
I had a stroke and was just a pretty minor stroke.
So I thought it's about time to do something about it.
So when I waited myself this morning, I was one
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hundred and two. I go for I've got one of these.
It's not an Apple watch. So I got those, saying
some watches that I do twenty about twenty five to
twenty eight thousand slips a day and which is around
about ten about ten ten eleven kilometers, So I do
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a walk in the morning and walk at nighttime. So
so I'm really happy on one of those. I use
some of those powdered shakes that you mentioned before. There's
two shakes today the watch tells me that I burned
a thousand and thirty five killer jewels on the walk,
and the Shakers eight hundred and fifty killer jewels, So
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do the mass.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So that's that's my story, and it's easy to do.
And what I finally now is if I don't go
for a walk, I get depressed because it becomes like
a habit and I really enjoy it year.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So it's my story, and hopefully Brilliant can't. It's down
the line there can't, Brent can't. Walking is bloody good exercise,
isn't it?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
It is? It is? And look I run, you run.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
But I also make time to try and go for
at least one or two good long walks a week.
That clears the head, gives me some thinking time. It
sounds like Brent's done exactly that, and I think he's
onto something too. The term with exercise, because we feel
so good, we get what's called the dose response. We
get all of those endorphins and all of the oxytocin
and serotonin and what have you.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You do actually miss it when you're not doing it.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
So another good way to feel or to take note
of how you're doing is any tension that you're feeling physically.
Are you feeling irritable? Are you feeling like the body's
wanting to move? And that could be because you haven't
been doing as much walking as would be desirable. And yeah,
when you get into a routine and when you get
into a bit of a roll, you feel deprived, don't
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you when you don't get it?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Ket what brands? Sorry? What was your initial aim when
you I mean you said you obviously went through some
tragedy and sadness there as well, But was it the
stroke that basically just you thought I've got to do something?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Well, there was that, but also I suffer from a chess,
a chess complaint, and I was on five forty and
a half of a day and now now I'm not
taking those four half of it all. I've reduced my medal,
reduced my medication by by thirty percent, and the doctor's
(31:29):
real happy, and I'm even better. Maybe.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Hey, thanks for sharing that with us, mate, and congratulations awesome.
Hey James, Hi.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Hey, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Good?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Thanks James?
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, so a bit of my journey. I'm forty now,
and so in my young twenties, early twenties, I was
I was seeing five six times a week at the gym,
you know, featuring one forty as you do, and had kids,
(32:04):
got man like, got married, had kids and sort of
let myself go and and then went through a sort
of heartbreak and got separated. Ultimately let myself go. And
and I was one hundred and ten kilous. I'm five
(32:25):
eleven at on the on the on the larger side.
And about six weeks ago, you know, I started a
a carnivore type diet, not not to it, not to
its word, but just eating lots of meat, lots of
protein and going back to the gym. And I almost
(32:49):
feel like I'm on I'm on some substance because my
brain has feels like it's been rewired. And I'm back
down to ninety five. And like you guys said, I
to be honest, is something that triggered me to give
you guys a call because I was like, I'm going
(33:09):
to be eighty five and that's it. But it sounds
like maybe I just need to reevaluate that.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And yeah, instead of for a particular weight, it's the
way you feel as your motivation now, is it?
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Yeah? Absolutely, it's it sounds to me to me, it's
I don't know what I'll end up with as long
as I'm eating healthy, and I'll probably stick to the
carnival diet for a little bit longer. I like the
chicky beer every now and then watching the footy, But overall,
(33:48):
I'll feel a million times better than what I was
feeling six weeks ago, and and just just being in
the right mental state and looking forward to something. It
could be a walk, could be around the golf, or
or could be at the gym, just just to get over,
just to get over that.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
He can I ask you can?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I ask the question, buddy, So in the last six weeks,
what foods have you not been eating and have been
staying away from?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Specifically?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
I guess, yeah, good, good question there anything from like that?
Could be rice. I used to get takeaways a lot.
I still get takeaways. I just don't eat like i'd
have I'd have chicken, beef, pork, rice, sorry pork, But
(34:43):
not have any carbs. Not have any sort of processed
foods or any anything that's in the can that that
and yeah, any anything fried like chips. So if it
grows on the ground then I probably won't need it.
(35:03):
It's just a bit of a weird thing. It's it's
more of a social it could be a social media thing.
I don't know. I haven't spoken to any in the office,
like any nutritionist or anything like that. It's just I
felt I've heard a lot about kind of what I
want to give it a go, and first three days
(35:25):
were horrible, and the next the next few weeks have
been great.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Good on you, mate. Actually, what I heard there was
he giving up the fries and the cart and the
excess carbs and processed foods was the big one.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
That's the key part of it, right, That's that is
the key component when when people talk about a dietary
approach to him, which is why I always wonder, what
is it that you've taken out? And yeah, man, if
you've if you've reduced the carbohydrates like James has, the
process carbs, then yeah, that's that's a good sign for
most people that you can get on that path pretty quickly.
(35:57):
He's what did he say? He feels a million times
better next week, just six weeks. But I would expect
I would expect that to be the case too. I'd
absolutely expect anyone to feel great. I've hard out that
sort of food for six weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Good stuff, right, let's go to Dave good a good.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I was.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Back when I was thirty five and fifty now, I
was trying to kind of get real lean to rock climbing.
It's pretty keen on rock climbing. And yeah, I as
discovered the West and no price foundation and ended up
cutting out sugar for a month and lost five kilos
(36:40):
in that time. I've done quite a lot of exercise
just as an agriculturist, so dragon exer branches into a
chiplin stuff, but you're lost by kilos. But sort of
started getting I was still on sort of low low
fat diet pretty much sort of high progime loaf fat,
(37:01):
no sugar, and then yeah, I started adding Yeah, I
started getting constipated, so added a bunch of animal fats
back in and lost another couple of kilos. It's maybe
three kilos and I'm six or tried. So I was
crazy lean at the time and not starving myself, baying me.
(37:23):
I had like danes in my abs and my back
and stuff, and yeah, felt great, and yeah, I just
sort of carry that on and I tend to train
just before dinner and then just have, you know, sort
of steaking eggs and maybe a couple of little bits
of potatoes or something like that. But yeah, it's maintained
(37:46):
that no problem for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And do you feel that I'm working for you?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah? Yeah. And I also I'm fifty now. I've had
a broken arm, quite a badly broken arm for six months,
and I've still not right put a little bit of
weighed on, but just yeah, gone back to sort of
pretty much carnival or at dinner like that guy was saying,
just and trying to exercise I reckon before dinner. Yeah,
(38:17):
I mean you don't feel like having dars and eating garbage.
You sort of have a natural high.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, thanks Davie. I mean that exercise thing
does also affect the way you feel about eating. I guess,
doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Ken, Well, yeah, man, if you've gone out and smacked
out a workout or a run or a game of
tennis and you're feeling great, chances are you will make
better food choices. By the way, if you've noticed him
that they have worked for you recently. So yeah, some
really good stories from Brent James and Dave nice work.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Good stuff, by the way, when it comes to carnival
diets and things like that, do get the advice of
your nutritionist and don't just take what your next decision
is going to be based on, you know, the cause
we might have taken. It's always good to refer to
a nutritionist and get some good advice on that stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Absolutely talk to a dietician they know.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, eight minutes to five, we'll be back in just
to tick newstalks 'b Yes, welcome back. My guest is
Kent John's just before the next hour will be with
Hamish Pepper. We're talking about whether the economic recovery has kicks,
has got underway or not and what'll it take for
you to feel it. But Kent just thought We finished
with a text here from bed. It says I'm about
to turn seventy, I'm over eight one hundred and twelve kilos,
(39:25):
used to run, haven't for fifteen years, and I'm thinking
about getting back into running. Apart from taking it gradually,
what would you suggest hm taking it gradually?
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I think Bead's got it sorted.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Make a start, see how you go and just notice
what the benefits are from going for the run, and
can you then build it in as part of your
weekly routine.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Because I think he wants to not take it gradually,
he says, apart from taking it gradually, but I think
you have to take it gradually, especially if haven't run
for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
It's amazing, though, when you take it gradually, how quick
you can accelerate the process.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
To him, you can.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Those get running programs aren't too bad either, are they?
Where they start with a bit of walking and ease
you into it.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah, going slow can get you going quick for sure.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Before you know, you'll be back into that man Kenny
along with Kent John's. I can see you brocking the
man Kenny, can't you know?
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Lime Green? Not so sure.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Not sure. Laura will be too thrilled, She says, I
meant rash shirt, not I don't know whatever that exactly. Anyway, Mate, where.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Do people next? Yeah? I just google my name. People,
you can't miss me. I'm out there. You've got my number,
you got my email, Adris Kris John's.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
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