September 6, 2025 • 37 mins
This week on The Panel, Tim Beveridge is joined by AUT chemistry professor Allan Blackman, and National Fieldays Society CEO Richard Lindroos, to discuss the biggest stories from the week that was.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks
EDB insightful, entertaining and always on points. Tim Beveridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, and joining me for the panel in no particular order.
He is a professor of chemistry at au T and
he's Alan Blackman. Good Allen. How are you going?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, Tim?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Very good, thank you, and just quickly that we still
haven't resolved the question what came first, physics or chemistry.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We did resolve that last time. The chemistry, I'm not
sure we did.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
With a little smile on your face, as if you
didn't really believe your own case. Oh no, I believe it.
What's new in the world of chemistry at the moment?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Everything I could, I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We don't want to start, we don't have the time.
And joining me, joining us on the panel. He's a
new guest for us. He's the CEO of New Zealand
National Field Day Society. I think we got that writers
and it's Richard Lindrew's gooday, Richard, How are you going?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Good afternoon? Tim?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
How are you? Yeah? Very good, Edge, excellent, Nice to
have you on the show. Actually I thought you tell
I thought you were a sort of boss of Mystery
Creek as well or something.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Or is that a different No, No, same thing, same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, is that the official name New Zealand National Field Days?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It is?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, Actually, we'll mention this and we'll mention this in
just but our first thing we're gonna kick off with
is you have something in common actually at field Days.
But the Ames Games has finished up and it's the
biggest edition yet, fourteen thousand. Im I didn't know much
about this until my daughter went this year. Fourteen thousand
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Intermediate age children taking part in Toldranger everything from three
by three basketball, ripper, rugby, netball, hockey, surfing, swimming, BMX
and they have also won and award This z Sbam's
Game have won an award for the best Nonprofit or
Community Event for the last year's event. It was at
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the NZA Event Awards. If you had any involved with Aim.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Richard Well, I had a daughter who competed. I mean
Aimes is fantastic. You know that intermediate age kids in
New Zealand have been catered for and it's it's grown.
I think it's about twenty years old been around for
a while, but you know this Spawning event is, you know,
kind of dominates Towering before that that week, really and
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well done. You know, all the volunteers and all the sponsors,
zespri another farming products sponsoring and the regent.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We're going to get some good strong or representation I
think on the panel today.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But a great sports and they've introduced some new sports
the last couple of years too, so giving up with
the play. So well done to Ames for winning an award.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Actually I didn't really know much about it. But then
as soon as you obviously you have kids and their
competitive and they're involved in sport, and my daughter went
this year. But did you know it know much about
the house game.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The first thing about it, I've got to say. And
it took me forever to find out what the acronym
actually stood for. So the Association of Intermediate in Middle Schools. Yeah,
I did not know that. Well done at thousand people,
How in the hell does Towering accommodate fourteen thousand people?
Auckland I think would be hard pressed host to host
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a major sporting event that has fourteen thousand people. I
think that would be tough.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's a great location for it as well, Chris Well,
I think actually probably there's quite a few people who
have worked out that it's probably worth them taking a
little bit of a holiday for a week in airb
and being their house. Oh yeah. In fact, I think
the school that my daughter goes to, they have the
same houses for their various sporting events booked up the year.
They basically just book it for the next year and
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the next year. But I actually the observation I would
have because with fourteen thousand kids, there's only going to
be so many winners, and I just look at the participation,
in the enthusiasm, and there's so much you know, this
is such a formative age at the age of twelve.
You know, the kids are going through, you know, good
changes physically and emotionally, they're growing up. But just the
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opportunity for them to get a a for some of
the first time away from home, being in a team environment.
I just think it's an absolutely brilliant idea and if
it you know, if it hadn't been thought of, you'd
want to invent it, I guess Richard.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it's one of those rights of
passage from medio intermediate school right through the high school
and it kind of the stepping stone into school sport,
which we know is you know, real feature of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
To be a good thing.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It does.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then at the other end of the scale you
have the Master's Games. You do so between Wanganui and Dunedin,
you know, but again they're you know, they're accommodating a
heck of a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I like a house and regional New Zealand. Yes, yes,
that's actually part.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of me was thinking, I wonder how long it is
it's going to be to one of the other cities
tries to proach it, but I just don't think it's
ever going to depart from it.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It was established by the principles, the three principles of
the intermediates there. That's how it started off. So I
was kind of the meaning and need of supply and
demand and then it just grew and grew, and then
they got some community support and again zespri coming on
board to support it just shows the and it's now
a year round business for the organizers, so well done
to them.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, So if you ever get a chance, if you're
listening to this and you've got kids who are and
the I mean, not every sporting team of a school
gets to go. It's usually in the top team or two,
or generally own the top team. But if you get
a chance for your child to go, then you should
grab it with both hands. What was your daughter playing?
She is playing netball. She's in the hockey team as well,
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but she had to choose one, so she went with
the netball team. But actually they had It's funny because
they had a sort of bit of a seesawing tournament
where they actually beat one of the schools they've played regularly,
which was their nemesis that you used to always do
them quite you know, defeat them, and they actually beat them.
But then the next game one of the girls roll
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an ankle. Another one rolling ankle so badly the doctor
said it would have been better if you'd broken it.
And then another one got second before you know it,
So you know, they just hung on by the skin
of their teeth. So they had the highs, the lows,
the emotions, the tears. Anyway, I must have met when
I'd heard they've beaten that team, the nemesis team. I
did get a bit of motion on myself, but just
because I thrilled for them to have a bit of
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good news. So there we go now speaking of God
and how to segue unto this are the large events.
They're probably more than fourteen thousand people at the China
Military Parade now Xijinping. It was supposed to be the
eighty year commemoration of the victory against the Japanese and
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World War II and things like that. It didn't seem
to me to be much of that. It seemed to
me to be just a display of power. But the
quick key question that we might have a bit of
a look at today as Helen Clark and John Key
also attending alongside alongside is it the right word Kim
Jong un, the Prime Minister of Iran as well and
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of Vladimir Putin? Should they have gone Alan?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Jeez?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, I know, you know they are basically private citizens now,
aren't they, So they can pretty much do whatever they
can go. Yeah, yeah, you should still on the payroll it,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Actually you get a stype En doesn't former Prime.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Minister still Yeah, but that's not a wage or whatever.
But yeah, it's not there's not conditions attached. No, I
don't know, I don't think it's a fabulous look. I've
got to say, but are you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Reluctant to criticize them? And if so, why you reluctant
to because you're just such a lovely go on chemistry
as you think.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, I mean, the weird thing, I think that they're
both very sensible people, extremely sensible people, and so I'm
sort of a bit of a loss to figure out
why they went. But then they're sort of saying that,
you know, they they developed the trading relationship that we
have with China now, and China's our biggest trading partner,
so you know, I can see why they went in
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that case. But my question is did luxe and get invited?
And if so, why didn't he go? I mean, or
if not, why didn't he get invited? That seemed to
me to be sort of a little bit unusual that
they're inviting our ex politicians, as it were, but not
our current ones.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't know the answer to that, actually, but no
Western leaders were going anyway, Yeah, Richard, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Well, I thought it was a bit odd, you know,
I just did. It was a bit strange to see,
you know, if you thought about two new zors we're
going to go to it. Would they be the first two?
You think they wouldn't be?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You think, oh, I mean versus current politicians. I mean, yeah,
the I thought was strange. I can understand the rationale
for being inside the tent of influence.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He's got to be there, and they did make some
compelling argams were Helen did it anyway? In terms of
her rationale, she said on the fence for a while,
what does she say?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What was her compelling argument for you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Exactly? That's just saying you need to be there. It's
just part of the journey with the Chinese, and felt
that it was important to be in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And they both kept away from Putin And.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, it did Kim, so you know, but there's also
the counter plus, there's also the counter you know, And
it was it was a show and teal for Chinese
military power, trying to get the credibility.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And yeah, you see, I think that when they were
invited would have been couched by the Chinese as a
commemoration of the end of World War Two. So the hindsight,
although before it happened, I sat on air that I
thought it was a really bad idea that they're going
and then I saw them there, and I saw Putin
arrive and the leaders all sort of you know, being
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chummy chummy, And I think the disturbing thing was the
Prime Minister of India being there and smiling and holding
Vladimir Putin's hand, and as I thought, saw it all unfolding.
And then you see Yanaman Square where you know, three
decades ago they ruthlessly crushed a protest with that very
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powerful image of the sole person in front of the tank,
and I thought, I wondered if when they were there
and it showed Helen Clark and John Key there with
military parade which bore bugger or resemblance to a commemoration
and everything to do with a gesticulation of power, I
wonder if they were thinking, I'm not sure we read
this one right.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, it was a meeting of the under democratic leaders
of the world. Yeah, and then you had the democratic
I mean they even had Daniel Andrews from Australia, the
former premier. Oh well, okay, it was just random some
of the selections outside the you know, the North Korean Iran.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So when Trump had his big parade, yea, did the
New Zealand ambassador go to that the ambassador, yeah, or
did any New Zealand representatives go to the I don't know,
because really it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Democracy and the other who I mean they seriously you look,
I actually look back at the Townman Square thing because
I thought I need to remind myself about exactly what
went on and to see the images of hundreds of
thousands of people protesting for a change government and how
you know, allegedly thousands were killed, imprisoned and locked up
by their own regime. I just don't think you can
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quite cast the same comparison in terms of America, you know,
you might want to be and even in your most
cynical moments, and at least in World War two, I
think we're on the right side of that one, as
was China. But was yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then they were busy, bloody fighting at these at that stage.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Actually, quirky fact. Did you see old Kim Jong? And
he has all every surface he touches after me that
gets wiped.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Down, so he doesn't leave his DNA anywhere. Yeah, for
god knows what reason that is, I don't know, I
don't know. And the other one, well, the other special.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
One, well, the other disturbing one was the hot mic
moment I caught on where the leaders were joking about
how with organ transplants and things they can they can
stay young forever. I thought that was pretty That was
putin and moody and and I can't remember. Yeah, it's
like I was in this organ transplant things, we can
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stay young forever. So what a what a great collection
of of loving human beings, so well balanced and democratic.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We'll let you moving on to the next.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yet that well, that's the thing, so we just had
to include this Donald Trump. He's going to be signing
an executive order, sign an executive order too, and has
done so to re brand the Department of Defense as
the Department of War. And I just wonder what the
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little games they're playing. It just seems so a mixture
of puole as well as what.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Else is it out your petty worries?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is it worriesome? God?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Of course it is because the man is senile.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm sorry if you don't need.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Any further proof, you know, good God, you know him
and then RFK during I mean whole they just make
a perfect pair, don't they.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
God?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, you know, interesting how it happened the same week.
I think I think it's this game plan. He's trying
to make a grand standing position, credibility.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I can't keep up with it all, but it is.
It does seem of all the things you can be
addressing in the States and in the world, calling your
Department of Defense the Department of War, it just seems like, well,
it's a bit of a dick move.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
His argument was about being the offensive defense position, you know,
that's what he said. And also it was interesting in
his press conference the press a round post he was
saying that, you know, the Department of Wars has a
responsibility for the maintenance of peace.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Should they call it department of peace? God, he'd never
called it.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
That's too woke.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Good gre she said that didn't It was just it
was actually he said, that's the reason they changed it,
because it was woke.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Department of Defense was two whit.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, I don't has to say because there's there's really
nothing really is there.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Pete Hexeth look very excited about it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Spoiled child. He was jumping up and down, loving it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's got it on his door already. That was unread.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, what top quality of people they've got anyway, look,
we've got other things to get on too, but we're
just gonna have a cup of tea to lie down
and reflect on that for a moment. We'll be back
in just to take where you're with the panel. My
guests Alan Blackman, he's a professor of chemistry at au
T and Richard Landry's CEO of New Zealand National Field
Days back and own. His talk said, you see you
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belong to.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Move You imagine how the world people very fine, so
happy to be.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
D welcome back news talks. There'd be This is the
Padel I'mpton Beverage. My guest Sir Alan Blackman, he's a
professor of chemistry at aut and Richard Lindru's City of
New Zealand National Field Days. Hey, by the way, we
started the show talking about AIMES and I mentioned how
AIMES had actually won the best nonprofit or Community Event
for the twenty twenty four Games, and I forgot actually
because Field Days that's another huge event, which of course
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you've been involved with. Richard. What was the award that
you guys won at the NZDA Awards.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Won the Business Event of the Year, which was you know,
a real testament to the staff and volunteers of the Association.
But it's quite a competitive category, so absolutely please for
the society.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And yeah, how actually, because you're quite recent, you're quite
new to the role at Field Days. How much of
a roller coaster has it been getting involved? And because
you know, not long after you're in the role, all
of a sudden the Field Days are on and you're away.
How big was that?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
It's a machine, massive machine of people and staff and
fifty eight years of history. So it just fit in
the end, you wanting to ad value you can and
you know four months later that we went an award,
So nothing to do with me really.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But it sounds like a Barma and the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
But but what it does mean is we have to
win again.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We have to win again. So you do you do? Indeed?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Hey, now speaking of someone I think deserves some I
think that Judith Collins and her quiet visit to Ukraine
when I main quietly she had to keep it under
the on the down low until it was revealed that
she'd done it, and she traveled to Ukraine to meet
her counterpart. And I'm actually I must love to just
have a chat one on one with Judith what it
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was like. It's one thing to see it on the news.
It's another thing, Richard, to go and see the places,
you know, as she was quite affected, I think by
some of the buildings which had been torn open by
explosions with family portraits on the wall. And I think
good on her for going.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I agree, kudos the right thing to do. Well done, Yeah, Ellen, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
She's gone very far up in my estimation having done this.
I think that's a fabulous thing to do. It's obviously
it's purely symbolic, but it's extraordinarily brave. I mean, this
is a this is a country at war, you know,
any at any time Putin could have lobbed over whatever
and she could be.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right in there.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So it's important in New Zealand this sort of thing
we should do. Support the people.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And and remind me again, why is the Russian embassy
still open in Wellington?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I don't know, but honestly, come on, I don't know
where it's going to go with this conflict, because of
course they've Ukraine is just taking delivery of a bunch
of more missiles, a lot more that have been purchased
by Europe from the States. So, I mean, Putin's talking
a big game, like if they don't negotiate, it's going
to end on his terms. But I don't know. I'm
not sure it's all going his way.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It's going to keep going. That's his strategy time. And
you know, we've just seen them in the last week.
You know, twenty six European nations signed a cord to
put troops on the ground. That's the next step. So
and the calling it out, calling it out, actually saying well,
they're fair game. So this is this is going to
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keep going. Despite Trump's words the last few weeks, I think, oh, well.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He was going to have it all finished in a day,
wasn't he? Remember that?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Everybody? Yeah, words words, words to quote Hamlet Act once
out of the Paris Agreement. Now there's a bit a
lot more to this issue in a way, because it's
it's is it about them just saying we don't like
the Paris Accord? Or is it because they don't think
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that it's fair and the way it measures methans and
other sort of and our community and how efficient they
are with farming and things like that. Anyway, I can't
get my head around it. But what do you make
of it, Richard.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean act was the signatory to get us
into the Paris Agreement with National and Mighty Party in
twenty fifteen. I mean, I think this is just positioning
for next year's election. Look, the actual new Zeale first
came out, Whinston Peters was saying that let's look at this.
There's some complexities around the Paris Agreement because it's been
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written into a lot of our trade agreements. That's that's
the issue here, So there's some uncoupling this. It's not easy.
And having seen and work with the Minister Tom McLay,
who's a very impressive trade negotiator, on the back of
what Damien Damian a conative previously, I'd actually continue with
the current government position. But there does need to be
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questions of this and what obligations and duties as sign using.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
On that to Are they just pushing for a tweak
or something do you think ultimately or is this just
about next year's election?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Richard, Yeah, probably both. I think it was about positioning.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Well going out of it is hardly a tweak, is it.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, it's not a tweet?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, no, no, what I mean is it? They say
they want out. But is it about ultimately you want
one thing that you settle for something else. Is this
about sort of some adjustment or pressuring? Well, I think
I think.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Dare I say that our deputy Prime minister is just
doing it too as a cabin copy of Donald Trump
and pulling out of Paris, which was about the first
thing that they did when they got into power.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, it's got a hot topic in the in my
world and.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What's the vibe? Yeah, I can't difficult to distill it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think this will be an election issue.
I think there's other things in their in their world,
but it's it's got legs.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, it's probably an election issue for the Greens, let's
say probably. But to quote our deputy Prime minister, the
Paris Agreement demands targets that are disconnected from science. Sorry,
Deputy Prime minister, you're disconnected from reality if you think
that's the case. This was born on the best scientific
evidence of the time. For goodness sake, Now, you shouldn't
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be able to get away with saying stuff like that
because that's what Trump does.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And actually, when you said it's got legs, Richard, I
almost thought of playing some more zz but of course
it's she's got legs? Is that crazy top, isn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Umm?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So look the other thing that government, well this is
a completely different issue, of course, but the government is
cracking down on serious immigration breaches. So it's going to
strengthen deportation settings. And this is on the same day
that Immigration in New Zealand revealed there on more than
twenty thousand people have overstayed their visa and they're making
changes so you can deport people who had a residence
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visa for more than ten years for serious crimes and
things like that. There's a bunch of things they can
do offense is committed before a rival can count towards deportation.
There's nearly twenty one thousand overstayers. I don't get too
excited about this because I think it's a really easy
political football to bounce around. But if you haven't come
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in legitimately, I don't mind the government tossing out do
you mind? Ellen?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, I was astonished to hear that number, I mean
twenty what was yeah? And aways wondered that you know,
if you do come in on let's visit as visa,
how are we sure that you leave you know, presumably
there's a record of you coming in and presumably they
know what flight you're going to be out of, presumably.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And what I found interesting was where they were coming,
where they're from. That Tom was first, finally was second.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And the US was the US.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, that that astonished and.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Very similar numbers. And then even the UK was sixth
and twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So it's not your stereotypical overstay, no indeed, But.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You know, I think I think we will agree. I mean,
you know, immigration zones had to, you know, do some adjustments,
do some resetting in terms of their compliance and just
getting home with it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, you know, it's just making it worse for the
for the honest but for the legitimate people and then
they are going to find themselves subject to more and
more sort of hassles and stuff, and it comes to
try and getting visa and it just makes.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Us look bad. Unsurprisingly, the Greens don't like this. Rakada
Mens's March says that the figures show the need for
the government government to offer a pathway to residency to
many of those who are falling through the cracks.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No, no, I don't, I don't see that at all. Really,
you know you are violating the law. You're breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, look at us, we're all I was waiting. I
was thinking one of us has got to be a
screaming left, haven't we. I don't think it's not left
to right common sense, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It kind of is, really, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I can't see. I think the reason it's such an
it's it's one of these things that can be because
of what we see is the sort of xenophobia that
exists in other parts of the world without mention any
names around at different situations. It's difficult to compare ours
with the problem that America has had with immigrants and overstays,
when in fact they've built a whole economy based on
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people who are illegitimate. And it is a difficult one,
but it's such a big, potentially big political football, and
I'm hopefully, I'm hoping we don't really fall in to
the same sort of trapid debating it in such a
cheap way.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
What do you think, Well, you know, again, I'm concerned
about the real people who you know, your refugees and
your people who are escaping, you know, just horrible conditions
and horrible countries and stuff like that. We've got a
moral obligation to take people like that, but for goodness sake,
you know, this sort of stuff just makes the cleanness
much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I've had a bit to do with immigration is in
the last couple of years and different work environments, and
got to say it's one of the government departments I've
been impressed with. You know, put you onto it corrective.
I'm giving a shout out Riichi.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course they've been migration but kicking.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And getting a compliment for me. Yeah, new talent, but
they know they do a good job. And I think
just resetting you know, some of those frameworks is important
and a big support of this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Hey, by the way, just before you go to the break.
I know we didn't have the slater to talk about it,
but and I'm not not someone who's I don't follow
the Kingy Tongue movement. It's not, you know, not something
I'm particularly interested in. But I did notice last night
the chause the new Mary Queen has given her first speech,
and you know, I think that it's a role that
(25:20):
you know, people wanting to see how she would step
into it. And I've got to say that I thought
she spoke really well, and I was actually really quite impressed.
She also as a human being, talked about the loss
of her father and she got a bit emotional. But
then the thing that really that I noticed, she was
talking about what it means to be Mary, and she said,
being Marie doesn't mean having an enemy, and I just
(25:41):
thought she just had this. It did seem to be
consistent with, you know, the I remember the late Marie
Queen as well, and it did seem that she was
embracing a role which is maybe talking, you know, looking
at a more unified and a bit spread the love
a little bit actually, to be honest, did you see
any of that Allan?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, No, I can't say it. I did, But they
sound like great words.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, because Richard, you were saying in your neck
of the woods with mystery creeking and everything. But there
was a lot of activity and why cut obviously.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, I mean, I firsonally impressed with her words, reading
the room well, and she just kind of that aspirational
inspirational stuff is needed, So I really impressed.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It was busy.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Hamilton was really busy during the coronation week. Lot lots
of people in town, good positive vibe.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So yeah, going on, I saw the Vatican representative was there?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Really, yes, it was John Actually, to be honest, they
probably would have spent their time better if they're turned
up to that one anyway. But in terms of I mean,
it's a big moment for the big moment for a
young woman thrust into this role where you are just
thereby virtue of who you're related to. And I got
to say, you've got to give her an a Yeah, absolutely,
(26:56):
maybe even an A plus.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well, let's see, you know, she'll be out again speaking.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We'll see meanwhile on to slightly more well, actually tell
you what we going to take a moment then guess
what big news IKEA is coming to New Zealand. And
I'm sure there are a lot of people who say,
I can't wait. I'm not sure if it'd be the
warehouse would be saying that they've embraced in the challenge.
But we'll talk about that in just a moment among
other things. That's twenty to four news talks.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He'd be.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh, yes, welcome back. This is the Weekend Collective and
we are talking with Alan Blackman. He's one of my
panelists along with Richard Lyndrew's and we're talking about well
it's moving on to new topics. The reason we're playing
a bit of abber there is I was wondering if
they're going to play a bit of abb of being
Swedish because it is a Swedish company. When Ikea opens
and it's not far away, I imagine that a lot
(28:08):
of New Zealand consumers are quite excited, enthralled. What do
you reckon, Richard, Hang on a second, let me just
turn your microphone on. It's on.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I know where the Prome minise will be on decemb of.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The fourth where there he will be there absolutely.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And look it's great. You know my view consumerism, jobs, competitiveness.
I don't know if it'll be great in terms of traffic, but.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, well speak speaking of traffic and stuff. I just
went out to Westgate this morning because there was a
certain shop opening there and they had big sales and everything.
You were looking quizically costco No no, no, no, what
Jbiehi THI.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh, okay, you can't mention it if you're not paid here.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And they'd have to have been I don't know, five
hundred people on the qeue. Probably it took me forty
five minutes to get in the door, and then I
end up not buying bloody anything.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So I had a whole lot of Ikea stuff because
from when I was living in Australia. And I think
it's probably I think it's all gone now. Eventually it's
the process of getting married and amalgamating with this longings.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
But there's going to be more people quelling an ike
key on December of the fourth that will vote today
as a Timmicky Makaula election.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, we're not really supposed to talk about that broken anyway.
By the way. With with Ikea, you know, there's questions
about whether it's going to make a difference to competitiveness
(29:46):
and how it might be problems for the warehouse and things.
But this is exactly what we're looking for, but just
in a different area apart from supermarkets.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Where's where's New Zealand's Ikea? You know, Sweden's not that
much bigger than us. I don't know, they might have
ten minutes, I'm not sure, but they're not a massive country.
And yet they've got this absolutely global thing, you know,
and and it's right around the world. Why why haven't
we got something that can do the same. Where are
our entrepreneurs that can do all this sort of stuff
(30:14):
and whatever?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But I mean for the New Zealand consumer, it's the
competition that we're looking for. And I just don't hope
there aren't any complaints. I tell you what we will be.
It's going to be a boon for talkback because there's
going to be so many people talking about, you know,
are you better to follow the instructions when you assemble
your flat pack furniture or not, And there's it's just
going to be hours and hours of people deciding I
don't need to follow the instructions and their partners going, yes,
(30:37):
you do. Open the instructions, start with letter A and
go from there.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Swedish people's.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Remember we did have that one sort of out Westgate
there was a there was a big shop and that
was a sort of an Ikea type place that sold
a whole lot of flat packs up and that went
busting one a year or a couple of years, and
that was that was a really nice shot.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I don't think Okare is going to have a problem here.
I think we're going to c ques for a long
time in the traffic build up around when Wellington. I mean,
I think with the thirty first country to have I care,
so we've made it into the top the world.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We basically last in the OECD. I think that sounds
like it, doesn't it. Well, we'll take it. And actually
I've forgotten that they'd already been building, it was coming,
and now it's finally opening. I thought it was an
announcement for something in a few years, and they went, oh,
that's right, it's going to be a month or two
or three, and yeah about that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And you know the five hundred jobs they said on
the TV from twenty five thousand applicants.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Hey, by the way, there is a bit of breaking
news I might just get. I'm not sure how excited
I want to get about this, but I thought I
might just share it with you guys that the apparently, apparently,
and this is no surprise, Stuart Nash has just made
a pitch to become a New Zealand first MP. I mean,
it's hardly a surprise. He's been bagging everyone who's not
(32:00):
in New Zealand First MP on Heather's Huddle and finally
he's made a play for it. I'm not sure if
this is going to be a draw card for for
New Zealand First or not?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Was it? He'll be a list m P when he
won't be a literal Oh well, I mean you have
to be otherwise.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So is he a draw Do you think he would
be a draw card?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Need somebody to take over when Winston inevitably expires, you know,
that might be might be a succession thing.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He's relatively young.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, he might be trying to bring it back to
the middle a bit his views.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I can't remember. Why did he leave? No, that's right.
He breached the cabinet cabin didn't he So well, you'd
have to be minister outside cabinet for a start if
he ever was in a part of the government, because
he's got form on that one has been announced. That's
just it's just there's a New Zealand Herald story that's
just come out a few minutes a few minutes ago
that he's made a pitchure to become a New Zealand
(32:56):
First MPs. Winston Peters says Nash would be a seamless
addition to the party. So no hands up. Who's surprised
on the text. If you've ever listen to him on Heathers.
I mean, Heather's just like God you want to call
it now, Stewart just banging on about everything that was
pro Winston and anti everything that wasn't Anyway, We're going
to take a quick moment because we've got to come
(33:17):
back and have a bit of a chat about the
spring Box and Father's Day as well as ten and
a half minutes to poor News Talks. He'd be okay, well,
welcome back to the Weekend Collective that there's a song
that is chosen by my producer Die Award. She's going
to a bride tonight and she's using the music for
that little bit of because the spring Box is coming
up back with they're playing the Oblix at Eden Park.
(33:42):
You're with Tim Bevera, Gellen Blackman and Richard Lindrew's are
my guests. Allen who's going to win?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Oh? Well, I have absolutely no idea And to tell
you they're really honest truth, I really don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I used to be a Rugby bloody fanatic, absolute fanatic.
I was at Kara's Brook and eighty five O Targo
beat Auckland twelve to ten after Auckland won the ran
fairly shield the previous week. Was there in ninety three
when they won twenty five twenty one and Goldie scored
in the corner and then converted.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh yeah, no, I reckon, what could get you back
on board? I reckon what could get you back on
board is the fact that the spring Box really think
they're going to win, and I reckon that we're going
to say. I don't think the All Blacks have been
looking great. I think I think Scott Robertson looks about
(34:35):
our sorts at the press conference and so they're under
a bit of pressure. But I actually think that they're
going to do the spring Box Richard.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
You agree, yeah, they're going to win. They need to win.
Defining Testy, they really lack cohesion and I let a
lot of things, the foremost like the right points on
the school board.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
There is that, yes, but.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think the one yeah and well done in your
South African accent.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I didn't even know I was doing it. It's just
it's sounding fictious when I hear that song and died
remember doing the breaks, and I just luck, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
But before the All Black Springboks, we have another game
coming on the Rampley field.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh yes, in fact, yeah, back to keew accents because
Southland are defending the ranshield against Canterbury down South and
you know, I mean they might only hold it for
six Canterbury's. They're up against it, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Richard?
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, I think the stakes did so well Bening. Why
keddo Away last week? But to come up against Canterbury
in your first defense.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But then if I lose it to Canterbury, then Canterby
player tager the week after that, well I'll be happy.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well we're worried out. How you'll be happy? You worked
down the draw hit your tiger boy? What a tiger
boy or a tiger university?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Good on you. Oh well look look if Canterbury, when
I don't think it's I don't think it's tiger is
going to take it off. In fact, I'm saying right
now if the Tiger are not going to be taking
it off them, But I could I could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
The score tonight thought.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Twenty five fifteen, Okay, twenty six fifteen. There we go,
That's what I'm going with. I'm not sure if I've
got the multiples of different score per mutations right, Maybe
maybe fifteen's But how let me think? No, I reckon,
spare no twenty six sixteen. There we go to the
all Black ring.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I think there'll be more points in it.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I reckon, Oh, well, come on, you can just say
I think there's going to be more points in it.
What sort of prediction is that I.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Go?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I'll go thirty five twenty nine to the Blacks?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think, I think I think that's a close one,
high scoring. Yeah, it's going to be close. Of course,
it's going to be coy. I've asked Tyer to she's
got a bye tonight. I said, bring me. She's going
to bring I said, can you? She asked her what
meat was like. She said, the meat's amazing, And so
I said, you've got to bring me a cup tomorrow.
So if you're a member of Tyra's family, make sure
you leave some steak aside or something for her to
bring it in. I don't mind a cold cut. Hey, Richard,
(36:58):
great TV on the show mate Father's Father's Day. Yes,
Happy Father's Day for tomorrow and to me and all
you out there, but we got no time to comment
on it allan. Yeah, it's all chemistry, it is. Everything
is Yes, finally stop talking. I wonder if Friday your
show's Nick.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, and joining me for the panel in no particular order.
He is a professor of chemistry at au T and
he's Alan Blackman. Good Allen. How are you going?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey, Tim?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Very good, thank you, and just quickly that we still
haven't resolved the question what came first, physics or chemistry.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We did resolve that last time. The chemistry, I'm not
sure we did.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
With a little smile on your face, as if you
didn't really believe your own case. Oh no, I believe it.
What's new in the world of chemistry at the moment?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Everything I could, I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We don't want to start, we don't have the time.
And joining me, joining us on the panel. He's a
new guest for us. He's the CEO of New Zealand
National Field Day Society. I think we got that writers
and it's Richard Lindrew's gooday, Richard, How are you going?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Good afternoon? Tim?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
How are you? Yeah? Very good, Edge, excellent, Nice to
have you on the show. Actually I thought you tell
I thought you were a sort of boss of Mystery
Creek as well or something.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Or is that a different No, No, same thing, same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, is that the official name New Zealand National Field Days?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It is?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, Actually, we'll mention this and we'll mention this in
just but our first thing we're gonna kick off with
is you have something in common actually at field Days.
But the Ames Games has finished up and it's the
biggest edition yet, fourteen thousand. Im I didn't know much
about this until my daughter went this year. Fourteen thousand
(01:39):
Intermediate age children taking part in Toldranger everything from three
by three basketball, ripper, rugby, netball, hockey, surfing, swimming, BMX
and they have also won and award This z Sbam's
Game have won an award for the best Nonprofit or
Community Event for the last year's event. It was at
(02:01):
the NZA Event Awards. If you had any involved with Aim.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Richard Well, I had a daughter who competed. I mean
Aimes is fantastic. You know that intermediate age kids in
New Zealand have been catered for and it's it's grown.
I think it's about twenty years old been around for
a while, but you know this Spawning event is, you know,
kind of dominates Towering before that that week, really and
(02:27):
well done. You know, all the volunteers and all the sponsors,
zespri another farming products sponsoring and the regent.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We're going to get some good strong or representation I
think on the panel today.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But a great sports and they've introduced some new sports
the last couple of years too, so giving up with
the play. So well done to Ames for winning an award.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Actually I didn't really know much about it. But then
as soon as you obviously you have kids and their
competitive and they're involved in sport, and my daughter went
this year. But did you know it know much about
the house game.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The first thing about it, I've got to say. And
it took me forever to find out what the acronym
actually stood for. So the Association of Intermediate in Middle Schools. Yeah,
I did not know that. Well done at thousand people,
How in the hell does Towering accommodate fourteen thousand people?
Auckland I think would be hard pressed host to host
(03:15):
a major sporting event that has fourteen thousand people. I
think that would be tough.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's a great location for it as well, Chris Well,
I think actually probably there's quite a few people who
have worked out that it's probably worth them taking a
little bit of a holiday for a week in airb
and being their house. Oh yeah. In fact, I think
the school that my daughter goes to, they have the
same houses for their various sporting events booked up the year.
They basically just book it for the next year and
(03:41):
the next year. But I actually the observation I would
have because with fourteen thousand kids, there's only going to
be so many winners, and I just look at the participation,
in the enthusiasm, and there's so much you know, this
is such a formative age at the age of twelve.
You know, the kids are going through, you know, good
changes physically and emotionally, they're growing up. But just the
(04:03):
opportunity for them to get a a for some of
the first time away from home, being in a team environment.
I just think it's an absolutely brilliant idea and if
it you know, if it hadn't been thought of, you'd
want to invent it, I guess Richard.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it's one of those rights of
passage from medio intermediate school right through the high school
and it kind of the stepping stone into school sport,
which we know is you know, real feature of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
To be a good thing.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It does.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then at the other end of the scale you
have the Master's Games. You do so between Wanganui and Dunedin,
you know, but again they're you know, they're accommodating a
heck of a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I like a house and regional New Zealand. Yes, yes,
that's actually part.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of me was thinking, I wonder how long it is
it's going to be to one of the other cities
tries to proach it, but I just don't think it's
ever going to depart from it.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It was established by the principles, the three principles of
the intermediates there. That's how it started off. So I
was kind of the meaning and need of supply and
demand and then it just grew and grew, and then
they got some community support and again zespri coming on
board to support it just shows the and it's now
a year round business for the organizers, so well done
to them.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, So if you ever get a chance, if you're
listening to this and you've got kids who are and
the I mean, not every sporting team of a school
gets to go. It's usually in the top team or two,
or generally own the top team. But if you get
a chance for your child to go, then you should
grab it with both hands. What was your daughter playing?
She is playing netball. She's in the hockey team as well,
(05:31):
but she had to choose one, so she went with
the netball team. But actually they had It's funny because
they had a sort of bit of a seesawing tournament
where they actually beat one of the schools they've played regularly,
which was their nemesis that you used to always do
them quite you know, defeat them, and they actually beat them.
But then the next game one of the girls roll
(05:52):
an ankle. Another one rolling ankle so badly the doctor
said it would have been better if you'd broken it.
And then another one got second before you know it,
So you know, they just hung on by the skin
of their teeth. So they had the highs, the lows,
the emotions, the tears. Anyway, I must have met when
I'd heard they've beaten that team, the nemesis team. I
did get a bit of motion on myself, but just
because I thrilled for them to have a bit of
(06:13):
good news. So there we go now speaking of God
and how to segue unto this are the large events.
They're probably more than fourteen thousand people at the China
Military Parade now Xijinping. It was supposed to be the
eighty year commemoration of the victory against the Japanese and
(06:35):
World War II and things like that. It didn't seem
to me to be much of that. It seemed to
me to be just a display of power. But the
quick key question that we might have a bit of
a look at today as Helen Clark and John Key
also attending alongside alongside is it the right word Kim
Jong un, the Prime Minister of Iran as well and
(06:58):
of Vladimir Putin? Should they have gone Alan?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Jeez?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, I know, you know they are basically private citizens now,
aren't they, So they can pretty much do whatever they
can go. Yeah, yeah, you should still on the payroll it,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Actually you get a stype En doesn't former Prime.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Minister still Yeah, but that's not a wage or whatever.
But yeah, it's not there's not conditions attached. No, I
don't know, I don't think it's a fabulous look. I've
got to say, but are you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Reluctant to criticize them? And if so, why you reluctant
to because you're just such a lovely go on chemistry
as you think.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, I mean, the weird thing, I think that they're
both very sensible people, extremely sensible people, and so I'm
sort of a bit of a loss to figure out
why they went. But then they're sort of saying that,
you know, they they developed the trading relationship that we
have with China now, and China's our biggest trading partner,
so you know, I can see why they went in
(08:00):
that case. But my question is did luxe and get invited?
And if so, why didn't he go? I mean, or
if not, why didn't he get invited? That seemed to
me to be sort of a little bit unusual that
they're inviting our ex politicians, as it were, but not
our current ones.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't know the answer to that, actually, but no
Western leaders were going anyway, Yeah, Richard, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Well, I thought it was a bit odd, you know,
I just did. It was a bit strange to see,
you know, if you thought about two new zors we're
going to go to it. Would they be the first two?
You think they wouldn't be?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You think, oh, I mean versus current politicians. I mean, yeah,
the I thought was strange. I can understand the rationale
for being inside the tent of influence.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He's got to be there, and they did make some
compelling argams were Helen did it anyway? In terms of
her rationale, she said on the fence for a while,
what does she say?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What was her compelling argument for you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Exactly? That's just saying you need to be there. It's
just part of the journey with the Chinese, and felt
that it was important to be in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And they both kept away from Putin And.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, it did Kim, so you know, but there's also
the counter plus, there's also the counter you know, And
it was it was a show and teal for Chinese
military power, trying to get the credibility.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And yeah, you see, I think that when they were
invited would have been couched by the Chinese as a
commemoration of the end of World War Two. So the hindsight,
although before it happened, I sat on air that I
thought it was a really bad idea that they're going
and then I saw them there, and I saw Putin
arrive and the leaders all sort of you know, being
(09:36):
chummy chummy, And I think the disturbing thing was the
Prime Minister of India being there and smiling and holding
Vladimir Putin's hand, and as I thought, saw it all unfolding.
And then you see Yanaman Square where you know, three
decades ago they ruthlessly crushed a protest with that very
(09:57):
powerful image of the sole person in front of the tank,
and I thought, I wondered if when they were there
and it showed Helen Clark and John Key there with
military parade which bore bugger or resemblance to a commemoration
and everything to do with a gesticulation of power, I
wonder if they were thinking, I'm not sure we read
this one right.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, it was a meeting of the under democratic leaders
of the world. Yeah, and then you had the democratic
I mean they even had Daniel Andrews from Australia, the
former premier. Oh well, okay, it was just random some
of the selections outside the you know, the North Korean Iran.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So when Trump had his big parade, yea, did the
New Zealand ambassador go to that the ambassador, yeah, or
did any New Zealand representatives go to the I don't know,
because really it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Democracy and the other who I mean they seriously you look,
I actually look back at the Townman Square thing because
I thought I need to remind myself about exactly what
went on and to see the images of hundreds of
thousands of people protesting for a change government and how
you know, allegedly thousands were killed, imprisoned and locked up
by their own regime. I just don't think you can
(11:13):
quite cast the same comparison in terms of America, you know,
you might want to be and even in your most
cynical moments, and at least in World War two, I
think we're on the right side of that one, as
was China. But was yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then they were busy, bloody fighting at these at that stage.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Actually, quirky fact. Did you see old Kim Jong? And
he has all every surface he touches after me that
gets wiped.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Down, so he doesn't leave his DNA anywhere. Yeah, for
god knows what reason that is, I don't know, I
don't know. And the other one, well, the other special.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
One, well, the other disturbing one was the hot mic
moment I caught on where the leaders were joking about
how with organ transplants and things they can they can
stay young forever. I thought that was pretty That was
putin and moody and and I can't remember. Yeah, it's
like I was in this organ transplant things, we can
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stay young forever. So what a what a great collection
of of loving human beings, so well balanced and democratic.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We'll let you moving on to the next.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yet that well, that's the thing, so we just had
to include this Donald Trump. He's going to be signing
an executive order, sign an executive order too, and has
done so to re brand the Department of Defense as
the Department of War. And I just wonder what the
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little games they're playing. It just seems so a mixture
of puole as well as what.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Else is it out your petty worries?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is it worriesome? God?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Of course it is because the man is senile.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm sorry if you don't need.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Any further proof, you know, good God, you know him
and then RFK during I mean whole they just make
a perfect pair, don't they.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
God?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, you know, interesting how it happened the same week.
I think I think it's this game plan. He's trying
to make a grand standing position, credibility.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I can't keep up with it all, but it is.
It does seem of all the things you can be
addressing in the States and in the world, calling your
Department of Defense the Department of War, it just seems like, well,
it's a bit of a dick move.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
His argument was about being the offensive defense position, you know,
that's what he said. And also it was interesting in
his press conference the press a round post he was
saying that, you know, the Department of Wars has a
responsibility for the maintenance of peace.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Should they call it department of peace? God, he'd never
called it.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
That's too woke.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Good gre she said that didn't It was just it
was actually he said, that's the reason they changed it,
because it was woke.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Department of Defense was two whit.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, I don't has to say because there's there's really
nothing really is there.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Pete Hexeth look very excited about it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Spoiled child. He was jumping up and down, loving it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's got it on his door already. That was unread.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, what top quality of people they've got anyway, look,
we've got other things to get on too, but we're
just gonna have a cup of tea to lie down
and reflect on that for a moment. We'll be back
in just to take where you're with the panel. My
guests Alan Blackman, he's a professor of chemistry at au
T and Richard Landry's CEO of New Zealand National Field
Days back and own. His talk said, you see you
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belong to.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Move You imagine how the world people very fine, so
happy to be.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
D welcome back news talks. There'd be This is the
Padel I'mpton Beverage. My guest Sir Alan Blackman, he's a
professor of chemistry at aut and Richard Lindru's City of
New Zealand National Field Days. Hey, by the way, we
started the show talking about AIMES and I mentioned how
AIMES had actually won the best nonprofit or Community Event
for the twenty twenty four Games, and I forgot actually
because Field Days that's another huge event, which of course
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you've been involved with. Richard. What was the award that
you guys won at the NZDA Awards.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Won the Business Event of the Year, which was you know,
a real testament to the staff and volunteers of the Association.
But it's quite a competitive category, so absolutely please for
the society.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And yeah, how actually, because you're quite recent, you're quite
new to the role at Field Days. How much of
a roller coaster has it been getting involved? And because
you know, not long after you're in the role, all
of a sudden the Field Days are on and you're away.
How big was that?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
It's a machine, massive machine of people and staff and
fifty eight years of history. So it just fit in
the end, you wanting to ad value you can and
you know four months later that we went an award,
So nothing to do with me really.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But it sounds like a Barma and the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
But but what it does mean is we have to
win again.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We have to win again. So you do you do? Indeed?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Hey, now speaking of someone I think deserves some I
think that Judith Collins and her quiet visit to Ukraine
when I main quietly she had to keep it under
the on the down low until it was revealed that
she'd done it, and she traveled to Ukraine to meet
her counterpart. And I'm actually I must love to just
have a chat one on one with Judith what it
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was like. It's one thing to see it on the news.
It's another thing, Richard, to go and see the places,
you know, as she was quite affected, I think by
some of the buildings which had been torn open by
explosions with family portraits on the wall. And I think
good on her for going.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I agree, kudos the right thing to do. Well done, Yeah, Ellen, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
She's gone very far up in my estimation having done this.
I think that's a fabulous thing to do. It's obviously
it's purely symbolic, but it's extraordinarily brave. I mean, this
is a this is a country at war, you know,
any at any time Putin could have lobbed over whatever
and she could be.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right in there.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So it's important in New Zealand this sort of thing
we should do. Support the people.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And and remind me again, why is the Russian embassy
still open in Wellington?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I don't know, but honestly, come on, I don't know
where it's going to go with this conflict, because of
course they've Ukraine is just taking delivery of a bunch
of more missiles, a lot more that have been purchased
by Europe from the States. So, I mean, Putin's talking
a big game, like if they don't negotiate, it's going
to end on his terms. But I don't know. I'm
not sure it's all going his way.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It's going to keep going. That's his strategy time. And
you know, we've just seen them in the last week.
You know, twenty six European nations signed a cord to
put troops on the ground. That's the next step. So
and the calling it out, calling it out, actually saying well,
they're fair game. So this is this is going to
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keep going. Despite Trump's words the last few weeks, I think, oh, well.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He was going to have it all finished in a day,
wasn't he? Remember that?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Everybody? Yeah, words words, words to quote Hamlet Act once
out of the Paris Agreement. Now there's a bit a
lot more to this issue in a way, because it's
it's is it about them just saying we don't like
the Paris Accord? Or is it because they don't think
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that it's fair and the way it measures methans and
other sort of and our community and how efficient they
are with farming and things like that. Anyway, I can't
get my head around it. But what do you make
of it, Richard.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean act was the signatory to get us
into the Paris Agreement with National and Mighty Party in
twenty fifteen. I mean, I think this is just positioning
for next year's election. Look, the actual new Zeale first
came out, Whinston Peters was saying that let's look at this.
There's some complexities around the Paris Agreement because it's been
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written into a lot of our trade agreements. That's that's
the issue here, So there's some uncoupling this. It's not easy.
And having seen and work with the Minister Tom McLay,
who's a very impressive trade negotiator, on the back of
what Damien Damian a conative previously, I'd actually continue with
the current government position. But there does need to be
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questions of this and what obligations and duties as sign using.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
On that to Are they just pushing for a tweak
or something do you think ultimately or is this just
about next year's election?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Richard, Yeah, probably both. I think it was about positioning.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Well going out of it is hardly a tweak, is it.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, it's not a tweet?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, no, no, what I mean is it? They say
they want out. But is it about ultimately you want
one thing that you settle for something else. Is this
about sort of some adjustment or pressuring? Well, I think
I think.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Dare I say that our deputy Prime minister is just
doing it too as a cabin copy of Donald Trump
and pulling out of Paris, which was about the first
thing that they did when they got into power.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, it's got a hot topic in the in my
world and.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What's the vibe? Yeah, I can't difficult to distill it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think this will be an election issue.
I think there's other things in their in their world,
but it's it's got legs.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, it's probably an election issue for the Greens, let's
say probably. But to quote our deputy Prime minister, the
Paris Agreement demands targets that are disconnected from science. Sorry,
Deputy Prime minister, you're disconnected from reality if you think
that's the case. This was born on the best scientific
evidence of the time. For goodness sake, Now, you shouldn't
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be able to get away with saying stuff like that
because that's what Trump does.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And actually, when you said it's got legs, Richard, I
almost thought of playing some more zz but of course
it's she's got legs? Is that crazy top, isn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Umm?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So look the other thing that government, well this is
a completely different issue, of course, but the government is
cracking down on serious immigration breaches. So it's going to
strengthen deportation settings. And this is on the same day
that Immigration in New Zealand revealed there on more than
twenty thousand people have overstayed their visa and they're making
changes so you can deport people who had a residence
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visa for more than ten years for serious crimes and
things like that. There's a bunch of things they can
do offense is committed before a rival can count towards deportation.
There's nearly twenty one thousand overstayers. I don't get too
excited about this because I think it's a really easy
political football to bounce around. But if you haven't come
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in legitimately, I don't mind the government tossing out do
you mind? Ellen?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, I was astonished to hear that number, I mean
twenty what was yeah? And aways wondered that you know,
if you do come in on let's visit as visa,
how are we sure that you leave you know, presumably
there's a record of you coming in and presumably they
know what flight you're going to be out of, presumably.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And what I found interesting was where they were coming,
where they're from. That Tom was first, finally was second.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And the US was the US.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, that that astonished and.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Very similar numbers. And then even the UK was sixth
and twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So it's not your stereotypical overstay, no indeed, But.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You know, I think I think we will agree. I mean,
you know, immigration zones had to, you know, do some adjustments,
do some resetting in terms of their compliance and just
getting home with it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, you know, it's just making it worse for the
for the honest but for the legitimate people and then
they are going to find themselves subject to more and
more sort of hassles and stuff, and it comes to
try and getting visa and it just makes.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Us look bad. Unsurprisingly, the Greens don't like this. Rakada
Mens's March says that the figures show the need for
the government government to offer a pathway to residency to
many of those who are falling through the cracks.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No, no, I don't, I don't see that at all. Really,
you know you are violating the law. You're breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, look at us, we're all I was waiting. I
was thinking one of us has got to be a
screaming left, haven't we. I don't think it's not left
to right common sense, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It kind of is, really, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I can't see. I think the reason it's such an
it's it's one of these things that can be because
of what we see is the sort of xenophobia that
exists in other parts of the world without mention any
names around at different situations. It's difficult to compare ours
with the problem that America has had with immigrants and overstays,
when in fact they've built a whole economy based on
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people who are illegitimate. And it is a difficult one,
but it's such a big, potentially big political football, and
I'm hopefully, I'm hoping we don't really fall in to
the same sort of trapid debating it in such a
cheap way.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
What do you think, Well, you know, again, I'm concerned
about the real people who you know, your refugees and
your people who are escaping, you know, just horrible conditions
and horrible countries and stuff like that. We've got a
moral obligation to take people like that, but for goodness sake,
you know, this sort of stuff just makes the cleanness
much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I've had a bit to do with immigration is in
the last couple of years and different work environments, and
got to say it's one of the government departments I've
been impressed with. You know, put you onto it corrective.
I'm giving a shout out Riichi.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course they've been migration but kicking.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And getting a compliment for me. Yeah, new talent, but
they know they do a good job. And I think
just resetting you know, some of those frameworks is important
and a big support of this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Hey, by the way, just before you go to the break.
I know we didn't have the slater to talk about it,
but and I'm not not someone who's I don't follow
the Kingy Tongue movement. It's not, you know, not something
I'm particularly interested in. But I did notice last night
the chause the new Mary Queen has given her first speech,
and you know, I think that it's a role that
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you know, people wanting to see how she would step
into it. And I've got to say that I thought
she spoke really well, and I was actually really quite impressed.
She also as a human being, talked about the loss
of her father and she got a bit emotional. But
then the thing that really that I noticed, she was
talking about what it means to be Mary, and she said,
being Marie doesn't mean having an enemy, and I just
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thought she just had this. It did seem to be
consistent with, you know, the I remember the late Marie
Queen as well, and it did seem that she was
embracing a role which is maybe talking, you know, looking
at a more unified and a bit spread the love
a little bit actually, to be honest, did you see
any of that Allan?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, No, I can't say it. I did, But they
sound like great words.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, because Richard, you were saying in your neck
of the woods with mystery creeking and everything. But there
was a lot of activity and why cut obviously.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, I mean, I firsonally impressed with her words, reading
the room well, and she just kind of that aspirational
inspirational stuff is needed, So I really impressed.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It was busy.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Hamilton was really busy during the coronation week. Lot lots
of people in town, good positive vibe.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So yeah, going on, I saw the Vatican representative was there?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Really, yes, it was John Actually, to be honest, they
probably would have spent their time better if they're turned
up to that one anyway. But in terms of I mean,
it's a big moment for the big moment for a
young woman thrust into this role where you are just
thereby virtue of who you're related to. And I got
to say, you've got to give her an a Yeah, absolutely,
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maybe even an A plus.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well, let's see, you know, she'll be out again speaking.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We'll see meanwhile on to slightly more well, actually tell
you what we going to take a moment then guess
what big news IKEA is coming to New Zealand. And
I'm sure there are a lot of people who say,
I can't wait. I'm not sure if it'd be the
warehouse would be saying that they've embraced in the challenge.
But we'll talk about that in just a moment among
other things. That's twenty to four news talks.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He'd be.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh, yes, welcome back. This is the Weekend Collective and
we are talking with Alan Blackman. He's one of my
panelists along with Richard Lyndrew's and we're talking about well
it's moving on to new topics. The reason we're playing
a bit of abber there is I was wondering if
they're going to play a bit of abb of being
Swedish because it is a Swedish company. When Ikea opens
and it's not far away, I imagine that a lot
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of New Zealand consumers are quite excited, enthralled. What do
you reckon, Richard, Hang on a second, let me just
turn your microphone on. It's on.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I know where the Prome minise will be on decemb of.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The fourth where there he will be there absolutely.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And look it's great. You know my view consumerism, jobs, competitiveness.
I don't know if it'll be great in terms of traffic, but.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, well speak speaking of traffic and stuff. I just
went out to Westgate this morning because there was a
certain shop opening there and they had big sales and everything.
You were looking quizically costco No no, no, no, what
Jbiehi THI.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh, okay, you can't mention it if you're not paid here.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And they'd have to have been I don't know, five
hundred people on the qeue. Probably it took me forty
five minutes to get in the door, and then I
end up not buying bloody anything.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So I had a whole lot of Ikea stuff because
from when I was living in Australia. And I think
it's probably I think it's all gone now. Eventually it's
the process of getting married and amalgamating with this longings.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
But there's going to be more people quelling an ike
key on December of the fourth that will vote today
as a Timmicky Makaula election.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, we're not really supposed to talk about that broken anyway.
By the way. With with Ikea, you know, there's questions
about whether it's going to make a difference to competitiveness
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and how it might be problems for the warehouse and things.
But this is exactly what we're looking for, but just
in a different area apart from supermarkets.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Where's where's New Zealand's Ikea? You know, Sweden's not that
much bigger than us. I don't know, they might have
ten minutes, I'm not sure, but they're not a massive country.
And yet they've got this absolutely global thing, you know,
and and it's right around the world. Why why haven't
we got something that can do the same. Where are
our entrepreneurs that can do all this sort of stuff
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and whatever?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But I mean for the New Zealand consumer, it's the
competition that we're looking for. And I just don't hope
there aren't any complaints. I tell you what we will be.
It's going to be a boon for talkback because there's
going to be so many people talking about, you know,
are you better to follow the instructions when you assemble
your flat pack furniture or not, And there's it's just
going to be hours and hours of people deciding I
don't need to follow the instructions and their partners going, yes,
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you do. Open the instructions, start with letter A and
go from there.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Swedish people's.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Remember we did have that one sort of out Westgate
there was a there was a big shop and that
was a sort of an Ikea type place that sold
a whole lot of flat packs up and that went
busting one a year or a couple of years, and
that was that was a really nice shot.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I don't think Okare is going to have a problem here.
I think we're going to c ques for a long
time in the traffic build up around when Wellington. I mean,
I think with the thirty first country to have I care,
so we've made it into the top the world.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We basically last in the OECD. I think that sounds
like it, doesn't it. Well, we'll take it. And actually
I've forgotten that they'd already been building, it was coming,
and now it's finally opening. I thought it was an
announcement for something in a few years, and they went, oh,
that's right, it's going to be a month or two
or three, and yeah about that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And you know the five hundred jobs they said on
the TV from twenty five thousand applicants.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Hey, by the way, there is a bit of breaking
news I might just get. I'm not sure how excited
I want to get about this, but I thought I
might just share it with you guys that the apparently, apparently,
and this is no surprise, Stuart Nash has just made
a pitch to become a New Zealand first MP. I mean,
it's hardly a surprise. He's been bagging everyone who's not
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in New Zealand First MP on Heather's Huddle and finally
he's made a play for it. I'm not sure if
this is going to be a draw card for for
New Zealand First or not?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Was it? He'll be a list m P when he
won't be a literal Oh well, I mean you have
to be otherwise.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So is he a draw Do you think he would
be a draw card?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Need somebody to take over when Winston inevitably expires, you know,
that might be might be a succession thing.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He's relatively young.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, he might be trying to bring it back to
the middle a bit his views.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I can't remember. Why did he leave? No, that's right.
He breached the cabinet cabin didn't he So well, you'd
have to be minister outside cabinet for a start if
he ever was in a part of the government, because
he's got form on that one has been announced. That's
just it's just there's a New Zealand Herald story that's
just come out a few minutes a few minutes ago
that he's made a pitchure to become a New Zealand
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First MPs. Winston Peters says Nash would be a seamless
addition to the party. So no hands up. Who's surprised
on the text. If you've ever listen to him on Heathers.
I mean, Heather's just like God you want to call
it now, Stewart just banging on about everything that was
pro Winston and anti everything that wasn't Anyway, We're going
to take a quick moment because we've got to come
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back and have a bit of a chat about the
spring Box and Father's Day as well as ten and
a half minutes to poor News Talks. He'd be okay, well,
welcome back to the Weekend Collective that there's a song
that is chosen by my producer Die Award. She's going
to a bride tonight and she's using the music for
that little bit of because the spring Box is coming
up back with they're playing the Oblix at Eden Park.
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You're with Tim Bevera, Gellen Blackman and Richard Lindrew's are
my guests. Allen who's going to win?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Oh? Well, I have absolutely no idea And to tell
you they're really honest truth, I really don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I used to be a Rugby bloody fanatic, absolute fanatic.
I was at Kara's Brook and eighty five O Targo
beat Auckland twelve to ten after Auckland won the ran
fairly shield the previous week. Was there in ninety three
when they won twenty five twenty one and Goldie scored
in the corner and then converted.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh yeah, no, I reckon, what could get you back
on board? I reckon what could get you back on
board is the fact that the spring Box really think
they're going to win, and I reckon that we're going
to say. I don't think the All Blacks have been
looking great. I think I think Scott Robertson looks about
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our sorts at the press conference and so they're under
a bit of pressure. But I actually think that they're
going to do the spring Box Richard.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
You agree, yeah, they're going to win. They need to win.
Defining Testy, they really lack cohesion and I let a
lot of things, the foremost like the right points on
the school board.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
There is that, yes, but.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think the one yeah and well done in your
South African accent.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I didn't even know I was doing it. It's just
it's sounding fictious when I hear that song and died
remember doing the breaks, and I just luck, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
But before the All Black Springboks, we have another game
coming on the Rampley field.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh yes, in fact, yeah, back to keew accents because
Southland are defending the ranshield against Canterbury down South and
you know, I mean they might only hold it for
six Canterbury's. They're up against it, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Richard?
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, I think the stakes did so well Bening. Why
keddo Away last week? But to come up against Canterbury
in your first defense.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But then if I lose it to Canterbury, then Canterby
player tager the week after that, well I'll be happy.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well we're worried out. How you'll be happy? You worked
down the draw hit your tiger boy? What a tiger
boy or a tiger university?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Good on you. Oh well look look if Canterbury, when
I don't think it's I don't think it's tiger is
going to take it off. In fact, I'm saying right
now if the Tiger are not going to be taking
it off them, But I could I could be wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
The score tonight thought.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Twenty five fifteen, Okay, twenty six fifteen. There we go,
That's what I'm going with. I'm not sure if I've
got the multiples of different score per mutations right, Maybe
maybe fifteen's But how let me think? No, I reckon,
spare no twenty six sixteen. There we go to the
all Black ring.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I think there'll be more points in it.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I reckon, Oh, well, come on, you can just say
I think there's going to be more points in it.
What sort of prediction is that I.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Go?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I'll go thirty five twenty nine to the Blacks?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think, I think I think that's a close one,
high scoring. Yeah, it's going to be close. Of course,
it's going to be coy. I've asked Tyer to she's
got a bye tonight. I said, bring me. She's going
to bring I said, can you? She asked her what
meat was like. She said, the meat's amazing, And so
I said, you've got to bring me a cup tomorrow.
So if you're a member of Tyra's family, make sure
you leave some steak aside or something for her to
bring it in. I don't mind a cold cut. Hey, Richard,
(36:58):
great TV on the show mate Father's Father's Day. Yes,
Happy Father's Day for tomorrow and to me and all
you out there, but we got no time to comment
on it allan. Yeah, it's all chemistry, it is. Everything
is Yes, finally stop talking. I wonder if Friday your
show's Nick.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
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