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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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you proud to be my dreaming back and you're blown me?
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Now my escape of telling you where you can go?
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Welcome to the Weekend Collective, the seven of the twenty oh.
I've got an interesting little bit of payback coming back
on me at the moment. I might just get my producer,
who will have heard that reverb going on that's sat there? No,
it's still quite weird. Can you hear that little echo there?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We might just that is really strange. I'm not sure
if you can hear it on radio. You got always
text me on nine. Right now, I've got this stadium
sort of reburb and I think it might be something
bouncing back from brad Olsen, So we might just who's
down the line. We're going to introduce him in a second. Ah,
you're right, that's well, that's better. That's better for me.
(01:38):
We've solved it, Thank goodness. Who that was? That was interesting?
You may have not heard any of that in radio land.
You might be like, what's Tim talking about? He says
he sounds weird, but he sounds fine. But I was
hearing myself back about about zero point twenty five of
a second later and the most weird reverbs. So I
think we've solved that one. Oh that's relief. Anyway, Welcome, Welcome, Hello,
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not to her, but anyone. I said, tell me why
the property market doesn't suck right now? Because it just
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or if not, why or why not? That was confusing,
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wasn't it? And also what renovations give best bang for buck?
Because I get the feeling that when the market sucks,
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of Barradina, she's an educations consultant. Now Sandy Pasley joins us,
and I'm sort of asking for a end on this one.
(03:05):
But accountability, when do we actually if your kids do
something wrong or they break something, when do you say, well, okay,
we'll repair it. We'll get it repaired, but guess what
you're paying for some of it? Give me your pocket
money right now, hand it over because one of mine,
and I guess is now anonymity. A couple of screen
breaks of the same laptop have added up to over
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one thousand bucks. So I've said, right, how much have
you got in your pocket money? So we're going to
talk about that. Also, the speed dating of teaching, which
is parent teacher interviews. What are they for? What shall
would be asking? Should we care? Should you get along
and do those people go. They're the ones who have
probably got no problems because they're the diligent parents who participate.
It's the parents who don't turn up. Maybe we'll talk
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about that with Sandy as well. That's five o'clock for
the parents squad, and we'll be also wrapping sport and
looking what's in the next twenty four hours. I see them.
Lianniwson had quite a good couple of practices anyway, lots.
Isn't it Welcome to the Weekend Collective? It is ten
parts three debating all the issues and more. It's the
panel on the Weekend Collective on news talks hedb Yes,
(04:14):
welcome and down the line. Well, of course we know
who it is because we heard me mention him briefly.
He is he's the busiest man in show business. Was
that was just the description to me. Somebody said, he
has got to be the busiest man in showbis. He's
also dabbles and economics generally, I think twenty four to seven.
Brad Olsen gea, Brad, how are you going?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Good afternoon? I'm well, I'm hoping I'm not causing reverb
across the across the airwaves. This time. I was I've
been trying to be a bit more techy as well
in my various pursuits, and I'm not sure if that
pulled off particularly well this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, look, just to put it gently, you blew it.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I look to my day job job.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nice to have you on the down the line there
coming to us from Wellington in the studio with me.
He's oh, look, I mean I've tried to describe him
in all sorts of ways. I think he is this
man who said you're the busy us man and show
Brad Olson. But in fact I suspect that in his
time that is an epithet you could attach to Mark
Kreis or a broadcast a presenter, journalist, lawnmarer, concrete, a bricklayer, fencer.
(05:17):
There's something else I learned about him the other time.
But Mark, hello hello.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, No, And can I just say, for the record,
you always sound weird to me, especially the introduction Mark,
I Brad down the line, I did say you were
the hardest working man in show business. I also think
you're kind of like the James Brown of economics.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Is that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Was I alive when this James Brown fellow.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Was hang on, whoa have you not heard of James Brown?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
James Brown?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
You know, I'm searching my current brain and nothing's.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, My goodness, Isaiah, can we have for the next break?
I feel like a sex machine? Okay, it's one of
his songs. Not I don't know why I thought of that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
One of the greatest soul singer's soul singers sold on
feel Good.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I'm a top forty music listener, like come, I didn't,
so I've just had a look. He passed away in
two thousand and six. According to Yes Google, I was
not particularly starting to listen to a lot of stuff
at that point, so generationally, I think I'm just I'm
missing out clean.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I know what happens is as you go through your
teens and twenties, then one day someone wakes you up
to a few other styles of music, and then you
suddenly become someone who's trawling the sixties, seventies, eighties soul blues.
I'll send him a playlist.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The exciting thing about this brand is that you give
a chance to discover James Brown, and let me tell you,
it's a wonderful journey.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So yeah, we're live at the Apollo you'll be getting
some samples this hour. Anyway, I think we should get
on to talking about what we're here for, shouldn't we.
Now Look, I'm first solemn things first. The MP's paying
a tribute to Tapati Murra MP. Take a timelined Natasha Camp.
I think the thing that worries I think the thing
(07:06):
that everyone resonates is just someone who's fifty years old
who was having coffee with her friends and has got
a kidney's disorder. Next day she's gone. That was that
is a shock. Fifty is young? Young, young, isn't it Mark?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, it's an awful shock actually, and it appears maybe
that she was a lot sicker than everybody realized. I mean,
one of the things that is apparent with something like
this is how everybody came together to mourn her in
unity in parliament. That all is bickering and nasty stuff,
and it's just a realization that someone who's a mum,
(07:41):
who's a sister, who's a partner, you know, who had
a very strong impact in her community. I've been out
to money. I did amazing things during COVID in terms
of vaccinations and looking after that community.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Has passed away.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So yeah, yeah, really really sad and lots of love
to the Farno and the people.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Now, Brad, what are your thoughts about it? Fifty years Oh,
I'll tell you what. Definitely too young, certainly too young.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And I think, like Mark said that, just the surprise
really that it came through. You know, it didn't seem
like it was something well signaled. It wasn't, you know,
like she was out there doing anything different, and then
all of a sudden the news broke that she had
passed away overnight. I mean desperately said grateful that parliamentarians
could put their bickering aside for the time. But also
(08:32):
I think given that Tomacky Mikoto was I think one
of the most marginal seats in the last election, politics
does come through very quickly. You know. I saw a
lot of people saying, what does this mean? What's coming
through next? And so although it's absolutely appropriate that we
mourn the loss of someone who was very very keen
to give her time to make sure that the people
that she represented got the affair Jews got talked about,
(08:54):
got the attention they deserved, life does seem to move
on very quickly. Because we're already talking about a by election.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, and that was so close last one. Yeah, something
like that and after a recount. But also all the
controversy around the use of the census starter and how
that was used to target voters and things in that
that electure as well.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So that'll be definitely one to.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Watch onto slightly here, onto slightly more cynical, or well,
onto the lighter side of politics. I guess I say
this as the lighter side. So x speaker, Well, he's
been sued as the speaker, the officer of the Speaker,
Trevor Maillard is being sued by a child over Parliament's
protest music. And I heard the interview with the lawyer
for the child tutor Tally trying to convince Heather that
(09:37):
there was there was a case to be heard here.
He also talked about, you know that they were pumping
water into the lawn and travel and new rope had
excrement on it or something like that. I don't get it, Mark,
what do you think the point of this is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
No? I don't get it either. I mean I I yeah,
I mean what was a child doing in that place?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Anyway? Wow, that wasn't a great place for a child
to be quite honestly.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But well, you know, if Trevor wanted, if the speaker
officer the speaker wanted to be mischievous, they could probably
enjoying the child's family for endangering them in something that
they were aware of the data.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't think it's going to go very far, to
be honest. I mean, it was a stupid thing to
do at the time. Those are crazy times when I
think back, but to blast them with water and music
and things like that. I actually think Trevor Mallard thought
he was being funny, but.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Everybody else thought maybe being a bit of a dick.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Really stick to being speaking, not a comedian at that point.
I mean it clearly. I mean it was ridiculous. Let's
pea clear from all sides. Everyone I think at that
time didn't do themselves well, the protesters or the likes
of the speaker at the time. What I found sort
of more surprising was that part of this lawsuit seems
to be not only the use of music and sprinklers,
(10:49):
but the fact that the music was quote bad and
that one of the songs was the likes of Baby Shark.
I mean, like, surely this sort of gets thrown out
as vexatious and court because it just wastes everyone's time.
I mean, if you go to a protest, you know
they were going to be some things and some responses
you probably don't like. Does it Has it really caused
mental anguish, humiliation, degradation and dehumanization? I mean, let's get real.
(11:13):
The courts have got a lot of stuff they need
to do, and they should concentrate on the important stuff
because it's already way too long of a wait, we
shouldn't be wasting our time on it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, what if they dismissed the case and they and
there's costs waded against the claimant, what's the lawyer going
to do?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Then?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't know it does it's a look, it's fun
for us to talk about it, but that's about as
much as it should go in the public vein, isn't it. Yeah?
Examining the playlist?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, well obviously no James Brown, then I think.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
No, No, We'll put Brad in charge of the of
the playlist next time we need to get rid of people.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
If I'll put baby shark Beck on them.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Anyway. So, I don't know, it's just it's a funny
old reminder of a funny old time and it's like
every time I see a story. I was on the
net the other day and I just saw some clips
of something and everyone's wearing face marks and masks, and.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I was like, what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We have ah COVID times. That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think it's something.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's it's it's a I think we'd all rather forget.
And actually, when you think back on it, it's easy
to forget because we didn't do anything. We just sat
around waiting for the things to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Maybe a little longer in Auckland, of course.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
But yeah, sorry, Tom. Can we just go back to
the fact that you said that you were on the net?
Who says on the net these days?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Good point, Brad. What am I supposed to say? I
was surfing?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Well, I mean I would have expected surfing the internet
or something from you on the net. I don't know
if that. I think that's too new school or old school.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You can text on nine two nine two people as
that new school or old school, as Brad being mean
to the host, as Brad being mean to me. I
think Brad, I think he's got it in him. He
could be in his passive sort of smiley way. It's
like the smiling assassin. He puts a jab and you
don't really realize until someone says, did you hear what?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Actually, it's mine and Brad's job to gang up on you. Okay,
thanks guys and saw I'm on your side on this.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Brad who says that on the net, I don't know
by the way he interwear, isn't it. The good news
is that this is how wonderful the text system works.
I've had a truckload of texts saying yes, we all
heard that weird echo on your voice time. So there
we go. Thank you people, thank you for that. Speaking
of politics, Winston Peters has apologized. Look, I mentioned it
because it's funny sort of that he's apologized for calling
(13:23):
to party Mara MP target to feris a dickhead in
the house. He obviously it's one of those things where
the hand sad. People go, oh, I heard that, I'm
gonna type it in and they have to refer to
the record and they go he did say that under
his breath. But I guess that the bigger question is
parliamentary standards. Dickhead? Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, he's been pretty staunch. He was outraged at
the use of the C word and and stuff. I mean,
you know, you've got to you've got to sort of
show consistency here, the right Honorable Winston Peters, because I
think you know, everybody's frustrated and angry at the moment.
(14:02):
I remember, remember we're just just Sinder returned that it
was arrogant prick was it about Seymour?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And then they signed with some sort of yeah, is gederate.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I mean, if people are getting frustrated, and if you
look at question time, if you look at at behavior
in the house, it's it's it's pretty, it's pretty school
yard nonsense.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I do want to get them, Okay, they do behave
like school children and the bickering is but I do
want them to keep their language up, don't you, Brad?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yes, But I guess well, I'm trying to figure out
we like to say that word on the radio. Is
that allowed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What dickhead?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I just used the word dick before.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh my god, So this is canceled of control.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
This is my question though, right, is that like sort
of you see this evolution over time in terms of
what's acceptable or not. And although I'm certainly not going
to read them out on the radio because someone would
have to press the dump button. There is this interesting
analysis that comes out for that. The Broadcasting Standards authlorready
does every sort of five to ten years around basically
like how bad a word can you get away with
at what time from sort of what sort of person?
(15:04):
And to be fair, dick and dickhead seems to not
even be bad enough to be on the list. So
I think we're fine. But again, you couldn't say it
on the six PM news, I don't think. I don't
think you necessarily hear it on the lakes of fulling
shows and that, so there's there's a limit there. I think,
probably more importantly is that the best that Winston Peters
can do.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So I've heard hosts on this station. You took us
the S word the other morning, s.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
H one T. Yeah, I've used it, especially now because
I don't know because it's it's three o'clock in the afternoon,
whereas you know, two o'clock in the morning, I mean
in the like, okay, so I had no idea who
you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So I have heard it, and I agree it's very
interesting that evolution isn't Brad because there was a time
when the word bugger, which is the classic example. I
mean that you know that you couldn't say that in public,
and then there was the ad and then changed and
we're all a lot more relaxed about it now. I
was explaining to my daughter the other day that you
can actually still get a fine for using offensive language
(16:15):
in public if they really want to.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think that that's pretty It's pretty difficult to establish
that you can. But yeah, those laws are harder to
prove now. I think they've loosened to.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's still a law.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's all about context and intention. Like
I've had callers on my and I'm going to say
the B words, you know, so I don't have to
flock shoved down everyone's throat. I'm just going to say
literally the B words. I had a call once who
was using you know, B words to describe everything, and
his manner was aggressive, and in the end I said, hey,
can you just call it with the language, whereas if
(16:47):
somebody goes casually lets it slip by. I've had callers
who accidentally and I haven't had the delay set, who
have actually said the F word, but they didn't mean
it in a way that was aggressive and not a
single complaint or text because everyone realized that it was
sort of just slipped out, whereas if somebody had come
on and gone boom boom with the word intention as.
(17:09):
I think nine tenths of it isn't it, Brad certainly?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And I think that's also what you see in a
lot of the analysis writers that people have a very
different view in terms of like you say, what time
of the day, the context, if it's the host saying it, verse,
if it's you know, a caller that's come through, and
a whole bunch more. I guess the point though, for
the likes of Parliament is that surely they can come
up with better things. They've been much much better over
time at coming up with insults. I mean, you can't
(17:32):
call someone a liar in the chamber like that is
a straight up. You either apologize, you get turfed out.
Now if you can't say the word liar, but you
can say the word dickhead. I sort of suggest just
get better with your lads. You are literally paid as
an MP to go and debate in the chamber. Come
up with some better zingers, man.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But to be fair, but to be fair Brad that
it was kind of like he was sitting down.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It was he wasn't paid.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I did say, Look, Peter said, no such pledgue was
made by any such country as named by that questioner.
Parris says, are you sure, and he goes, yes, I'm positive,
I'm like your dickhead.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But he was sitting down it finished speaking, because you
can see it he's kind of slumped in his gym.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Wouldn't be annoying if we've made a whole lot of
work for our management today with somebody who's like, I mean,
I blame brad Ols.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
This is job creation scheme.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh, it is quite funny. Anyway. Somebody has reminded me
I have used some strong language. Just said a text saying, Tim,
you regularly use a particular word. And they've told me
what it is when talking about Donald Trump. And then
I think the rest of the text it cuts off.
But he put me on intrigued.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
What that word is?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Now? Well it rhymes with old, it's two syllables. Anyway,
I tell you what I think. I need to go
and have a cup of teen, lie down, and everyone
can just regroup. Mums, you can turn mums and dads
turn the radio. What No, I'm going to take a break.
We'll be back after. We'll be back after this message
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Speaker 5 (18:55):
Machine.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, welcome back to.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The Weekend Collective. Well, I think that's a little bit
of James Brown, just to just to initiate Brad Olsen
one of our panelists today and Mark Kreisel. But what
do you think? All right? Slightly interesting Brad?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Oh yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't pick it myself
as my outro song or ething, but yeah, it was,
it was. It was good. You know, no Maroon five.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Next time you, next time you MC or give a speech,
I want you to walk up to that number. Okay,
I reckon you get you would.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Own that room, Brad, you would own that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Where he comes mic drop moment on the politics. Look,
Luxeon has left the NATO summit without meeting Trump. Probably
not the most lucky not probably not the most interesting
thing that happened at NATO. Probably the most interesting thing
was Mark Rutto referring to Trumps. Daddy has to sort
out the fight. And I think especially his Dutch accent
(19:49):
sort of really makes it resonate, doesn't it. He's got
that sort of you know, and then Daddy has to
come and sort to Dale.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And they're completely obsequious message that he's sent to Trump,
mister President, dear Donald, you know, congratulations, thank you for
your just of action in Iran. You're truly extraordinary. You've
done things that no one else has dead to do.
You make it all safe.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know, it's well smart politics, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I mean I did hear somebody who'd worked in
Trump's White House before, Scaramuci's saying he loves it, but.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
He also thinks he doesn't respect you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You don't get any respect for doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yea, is it? What do you think? Brad?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Look, I found it a bit weird, to be honest.
This week I was going through and the number of
times that I had to check social media and go
is this a meme that someone's made up or is
it real life? Was scary the number of times that happened.
I mean, also, over the last sort of seven days,
we've gone from the brink of World War three to apparently,
you know, a ceasefire in the Middle East. Then we've
(20:53):
got the head of NATO calling the US president daddy.
I mean, you couldn't script this sort of stuff like
it was just I think, if I'm the Prime Minister,
if I'm Christopher Luxon, I'm actually fairly happy with how
things went through. I showed up, I made sure that
New Zealand's interests are there, you know what's happening. You've
got a bit of FaceTime with all the important leaders,
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and he didn't get drawn into any weird stuff. I mean,
that's got to be a win.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
The biggest thing that came out of it for me
with Christopher Luxen is that he needs to get his
tailor to update his suitect. He was meeting the Chinese
premiere and the button was sort of it just didn't
look it looked like he got it from sort of
the op shop. And this is the guy I think
you can get a well fitting suit. I'm not going
to talk to you about that, Brad, because you buy
your suits. That's you told me last time we spoke
(21:38):
that you never spend more than two hundred bucks on
a suit, So i'd be.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I was wondering where that was going about to sort of,
you know, absolutely go me about my fashion choices. But yes,
I mean I'm an economist. We've talked about this before
I go to spend huge amounts. Yes, I mean the
Prime Minister. Well, look, honestly, I never look at that
sort of stuff in any great regard. If he's wearing
a bright pink suit, maybe i'd care a bit more,
but honestly, it's not the biggest thing on my ran.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, the only reason I mentioned it was because I
watching the news and my wife doesn't really pay a
lot of attention to the news, and she mentioned it.
But I think even before she did, my daughter, who
wouldn't care to unless she goes as Jack, is not
fitting very well daddy, and I looked and I went, oh,
my goodness, I can meet in the Chinese premiere.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If you measured you look at prime minister's the evolution
of time, and you look at them when they first
came in and when they are getting well into the job,
and that, yeah, they they become incredibly unhealthy. That it's
a it's a horrendous job. I mean, I remember talking
to Chris Hipkins once and I said, what's your day
look like? And he said, well, we start the day
(22:40):
around six o'clock. We've got an agenda and everything that
we're going to do by Haapas six. We've torn it
up and we start all over again. You know, it's
constant crisis coming at you from from media.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
From you know.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, I actually going back to NATO, though I'm surprised
that Luxeon wasn't in greater demand because he's just he
just sat down with Chi and you know, it's a
it's a it's a delicate balance that New Zealand plays
with our trade with China but also alliances with the
rest of the world. And I think people will have
(23:14):
been interested in his perspective of what was happening in China.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Probably gazumped by what was going on round with bunker busting,
bombs and all that. But actually thought, I thought that
one of the nicer and more interesting moments and was
Trump's I thought genuine response to that Ukrainian reporter about
her family and she became a bit of a in
the spotlight for a second when he was taking a
question of her name's Miroslava Petza the BBC Ukrainian Service,
(23:40):
and he asked where she was from and took an
interest and said, as your husband a soldier, and she
said yes, and he did. I actually think that he
does get affected by often the most person he's most
recently seen. But I was thinking it was interesting, wasn't it,
Brad to see his response to her and some empathy,
And I thought, if that leads to him saying, yeah,
(24:00):
you can have our patriot missile defense system, then that's
a big one.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Indeed, And it was quite heartfelt, you know, he sort
of he said, look, I wish you a lot of luck,
and you know that it's very upsetting and to basically
give give my regards to your husband. I guess the challenge,
right is that at the same time as all of that,
And yes, it was clearly a nice gesture. And some
of this is also coming from the President who said
he had solved it all on day one, and when
(24:25):
now a long way past day one, we've had more
conflict come through. There's no action that seems to be
happening on Russia Ukraine, so platitudes great action would be
a whole lot better.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, Sam and Gaza, I think Brad, I mean, he
he you know, he talked about solving these things straight away.
You have to give him some credit. I think for Iran,
I think he stopped that really fast speaking of bad language,
the way he actually showed his displeasure.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I was sort of with him on that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, and I think and I think you know you
should I mean sometime and there is that it was
a it would have been a very tough thing for
him to do, to go on those bunker buster bombs,
because Americans are very good at getting into wars, they're
not good at getting out of them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yea, what was your take on all that?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, I mean, I don't know if sending a few
stuff fighters to drop some bombs is getting into wars
like that. There's two very different approaches, right, you have
boots on the ground and you don't. And this was
nowhere near boots on the ground. There was never any
uttering of doing something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So, yes, Brad, But what about if the retaliation there
was a calculation of what that retaliation would.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Be in the end, it was orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But if they had lobbs and bombs into a military
base or taken out some of the American fleet in
the in the Gulf, and American soldiers went home and
body bags, all of a sudden, the equation changes.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think that I would say that that calculated that
Iran's military and their ability to respond. I mean the
skies Israel removed, you know, had had whatever the word
is over the skies. I think it was well that's
where it does.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But let's remember as well, what was the purpose of
it was to you know, get rid of the nuclear
program and similar and depending on if you're talking you
know who you're talking to, you apparently the outcome was
anywhere from absolutely nothing to absolutely everything. And the fact
that it's not conclusive enough from any source as to
exactly what we ended up with there, I guess I
just worry that, you know, it was a big move
to make. Yes, this seems to become for the moment,
(26:28):
surely there is some further retaliation to go. That seems
to be how the Middle East works is that people
can and will buy their time until there's further retaliation
that comes through. It's just one of those things that
I sort of worry that, you know, that there was
a complete breach of international law if you want to
go look at it in the details, that that's a
worrying place to start to get to.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And echoes of the Iraq war with the you know,
arguing over whether the whether the intelligence was correct or not,
whether they are close to making a bomb or not.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
And also it seems pretty.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Obvious that they actually spirited it away, the enriched uranium,
which is somewhere hidden somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well that's probably why. Look, I actually, broadly speaking, I
agree with them, making sure you know, I didn't. I
didn't particularly mind the striker, just wanted it to be effective.
But ultimately there has to you know, you can't just
pretend that the only solution is military. In the end,
you need the I A E A. Isn't that right,
the E I E IO. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You need Winston.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Church will say George Jaw is better than war war.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's the one. Yeah, we'll go with Winston.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, hey, which one?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well he was named one was named after the other,
so we can yeah, Winston Winston Peter's wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But he was? I assume, so yeah, no, he was,
that's what he's claimed. Anyway, Look, we have jumped from
topic to topic. Let's let's get back on track in
just a moment. It's we're going to have a chat
about the Oh it's more politically heavy stuff, but we'll
get onto something a little bit cheerful. As well during
before we wrap it all up, it is twenty two,
it's four News Talks. He'd be.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no no,
no no no no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
No no.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is not James Brown.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
This is Henri Salvador. And it's just a little bit
of musical trivia because I was playing a bit of
the Muppets to them kids, you know, the Manama Up,
which is what this is. But guess what it was
actually a song before this, in fact, by someone else,
the Pierro someone it's an Italian song that this is
Henri Salvador in ninety sixty nine, before the Muppets created it,
and that's this is the sort of original one. And
(28:46):
Brad brad Olsen, who's with me now, was a bit
nervous that I was playing some more James Brown and
you were thinking, that's.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Definitely I Look, I was going, look, I realized that
I don't know enough about music, but clearly I'm way
behind and on where I thought I was. So oh,
I don't know if that makes me feel better or
worse that I sort of got the song but knew
it wasn't the version that I'd heard, or that I
was completely lost on where it was from.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
There was absolutely no relevance to it. It was just
a little bit of musical trivia I introduced because everyone
I was thinking, who doesn't know them? Upets theme? And
then I thought, but how many people don't know that? Actually?
Originally it was something well I'm not sure, more serious,
but slightly different French is in the Italians. Now, look,
I don't get too excited about this. So James Cook
(29:30):
High is changing its name to a Terreo Mari name.
A next student has said, it's like it's just window dressing.
But it's going to be renamed to Haikura a Kiwa
in twenty twenty seven, and the idea had consultants, consultation
with local ee, and approval from the Mari queen. It's
sort of it's one of those things that would be
(29:51):
great for talkback. But it's a school. They want to
change their name. I'm not sure about the necessity to
arrange to erase James Cook either, but it's a school
who cares.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's very sensitive now to a lot of people, the
name of James Cook very different to the way that
I was brought up and that he was he's an explorer.
He was an explorer and he came to New Zealand.
But for a whole lot of people, they just see
it as a time that there will turned to helen
(30:24):
a handcart basically, you know, and it's I can understand,
because it could become a bit of a lightning rod
in that community, and the last thing you want is
your school being intacked or for.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, it becomes a lightning ride when you sort of
change the name.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I guess, yeah, but that'll pass, That will pass.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Clay, what do you reckon, brad Well?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I mean, yeah, I don't think it deserves a huge
amount of time. I mean, the local community sound like
they've been involved as well. If they want to go
and change it, then sort of all power to them.
It doesn't it doesn't matter hugely in my mind. And
probably more importantly, I'm still a bit surprised coming from
Fungy Day, when basically every school was you know, every
state school at least was named after an area. You know.
(31:04):
I went to Funy Day Boys who was along the road.
There was Tekipunga, there was come or High. You know,
I don't know. I just actually found it strange to go. Actually,
there are clearly schools out there that are not just
geographically located or called based on where they're from. So
oh again, not a big one for me. If the
community is up for it, if the community wants to
change it, then go hard. I guess the only question
(31:24):
is when do you what threshold, because if you give
the community a full on go, they'd probably start to
call it school in mixed school face.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So I think it is interesting. It's one of those topics.
And the topic of James Cook is something that we
don't really talk about so much now anyway, and maybe
it is something that's worth kicking around from time to time.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Was was it good? What happened?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Was it or was it both?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Or everyone in this country pretty much probably owes the
fact that they're here to the history that we all share,
good and bad, so we should be able to.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, But likewise, it's worth remembering he wasn't some sort
of colonie. So he was an explorer who sailed to
the ends of the world to where where no other
European had had from the literally Entipodes apart from Mabel Tasman. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And what was it that the Royal Society. This is
what I was learned something. Don't you when these stories
(32:21):
come up? Have you been on the He was spurred
up while I was on the news article. It talks
about this renaming spurred by the Royal Society of London's
want of an observation of the transit of Venus across
the Sun from Tahiti. It's worth re memory. He was
an explorer, despite the fact that everyone wants to you know.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I think even more of a fun fact that I
don't think they got to witness the transit either because
it was too cloudy.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That is like the millennium, remember that that was so
Sorry Brad, you probably don't, but the night of the Millennium,
it was so cloudy that no one saw the sun
come up.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Brad was born in the Mili.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I was alive. I don't have particularly good memories of
when I was a couple of years old, sure, but
it was a good to be able to claim that
I lived through the millennium. A millennium. That that's a
good one. I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, and then be I'm to say the word millennium.
Well done. Sorry, we are trolling each other a bit today.
I love you guys. Now this Greg Murphy as having
a crack at the government's plan to remove restricted license tests.
So at the moment I gather, in fact, I had
to brush up on this one. You have to sit
a couple of tes practical tests, but now it'll just
be one. Back in my day, I got it when
(33:29):
I was fifteen, and you did it written. Then you
went for a drive around the block with a local
cop and away you go, and ye.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Toodu waited driver's license at that time. No fifteen, you
know we're restricted.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Your second test, you got it and away you went.
I got mine on my fifteenth birthday. Wow, that is
that's and all I had to do was.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Drive around the block in New Plymouth and then I
drove off and I got a flat tight. I had
no idea, just keep driving, Brad.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I got mine quite late in life, relatively speaking, but
importantly I went through it, probably a whole lot more
recently than both of you, so I've had to do
the whole graduated thing. You go in and get your
you do your your original test, You go and do that,
then you go and do the restricted Eventually after you've
sort of you know, made sure that you're to that
point restricted In my mind, like was way, way, way
(34:20):
harder than the fall, and then for the fall, I
think when I did it, I did a defensive driving
course first because I wanted to speed it up. I
had to wait a whole year before I did the full,
and the full did feel for most of it like
an absolute tikbox exercise, as though were making sure that
I hadn't become a complete idiot between the time that
I did the really hard restricted test and the time
that I was at now. So I'm I'm more for
(34:41):
it only because, look, I get Greg Murphy's point that
actually this stuff is pretty vital. You know, you can't
just stuff it up and have it as a pure tikbox.
But in my mind, the full licensed test is a
whole lot easier than the restricted one. So if that's
the case, I'm just not sure you get a whole
lot more from doing the full in the way it's
currently I understand.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I mean, it seems to me like a money saving exercise,
and you have to be careful.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
There's a very.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It's a delicate balance that you have to get when
you start doing these things, Like there's a rolling backer.
I see in terms of safety rigs and the way
they're policed and things.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Like that with work safe.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
And I'm just I'm old enough to remember the nineties
and Cave Creek and things like that when governments start
cutting money and all you know, and bad things start
to happen, and then the whole cycle starts again. We
talk it up.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The best thing I ever did. I was talking about
this literally with my daughter today, and it would be
decades since I did this course. But school, our school
at the time, Western Heights High School area, we all
had to sit a defensive driving test and we had
the course, and I still remember. It must have been
very well taught, but I still remember the lessons I learned.
(35:53):
So when I'm driving down a busy street, I think
how I look for the look for the kid coming
out from a driveway or the ball or whatever that
I'm constantly it was the best thing I ever did
for safe driving was not so much. The test was
defensive driving. So everyone do your defensive drive and put
your kids through it. Whatever what do you reckon? Mark?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
So I think we.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Could only get better at driving. I actually tend to
think New Zealanders are probably the worst drivers in the
western world.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
They could come across.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think we're shocking, we're rude, we're impatient, and we
could slow down.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I just yeah, I do have a funny story and
my driver's test. It was we literally drove round a
couple of side streets and down Fenton Street, which is
the main drag, and a pedestrian was looking the wrong
way and stepped out right in front of me, and
I banged on my brakes and came to a huge, staggering,
squeally halt in the traffic office. So just go emergency stop.
(36:53):
I thought I was in trouble because of the squealing,
and He's like, that was great, mate, he says, you're
home and host.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
I mean, look good. Good instincts. Clearly to Mark's point though,
we not only are we rubbish drivers on the whole,
but we also thinking that we're God's gift to driving
at the same time. And that's that's the concern I
think across the board. It's interesting. I've just been having
a look while we've been talking, trying to figure out
if a few numbers around the likes of your restricted
and full license on the test results on the on
the net on the interwebs. You know, I've sent my
(37:21):
carrier pigeon to go and find find some access to
the Internet that's plugged unneath in it for me. And
I'm a little bit sorry that.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I thought that was very good.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Brad.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've had text telling me that on the net is modern,
it's it's new, it's all new.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
I'm gonna I'll go back to my young friends.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Thirty seconds before we take the break.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Just just interesting that that our full pass rates are
still not nearly good enough to think that maybe we
can fully get rid of it. So I guess the
question is is there a middle ground? Maybe you don't
get rid of the full license, but realize that it's
not quite as strict as they're restricted.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, round safe, Yeah, well everything in moderation, let's take
the middle ground. Indeed, indeed, it's eight and a half
minutes to four on New Stalks.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
D be streaming live on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The Weekend Collective call eight hundred ten eighty on News
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Speaker 2 (38:14):
B Yes, welcome back. This is the Weekend Collective. The
panel and it's Brad Olsen, Mark Krasl and Meat and beverage,
Lucky last guys, Jeff Bezos and his fiance and now wife,
Laurence Sanchez. The Venice thing, it just seemed everything's sort
of coincided with people being anti tourists, anti rich people
(38:37):
and that sort of being. I think Venice has put
them up, all right, But are you you're thrilled about
the young people's nuptials? They're they're brad Olsen. Hang on,
you've started talking. We can't hear you.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Oh what about now there we are? We got you perfect?
Sorry did you say young people's wedding?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, I'm joking. No, it's being ironic.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Sorry, I was gonna say your sack is a measure that. Look,
you're clearly doing far too well for me. I guess
I just thought it was another very rich person completely
not reading the room at a time when there's clearly
a lot of concerns. Why do you have to sort
of go and make it so big and fancy and
then everyone's face if they've done it like most of
the big rich people seem to do, which is sort
(39:19):
of you keep it on the down low and continues, Well,
I mean, you leak the photos to one of the tabloids,
to sort of control the story. Instead, this just seemed
to be I'm going to punch you in the face
with just how sort of vicious it is in terms
of its profile.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I mean, so wasteful as well. I mean, you know,
the amount of money that they're throwing around is actually
kind of obscene. Ninety private jets flying in for the events.
It was just it's like, I don't know, I find
it a little bit revolting, to be honest. But on
the other hand, I think Venice complaining about people, you know,
tourism is kind of really nowadays. That's the only reason
(39:52):
that Venice is there. It's it's a tourist destination when
you walk around there. The few times I've been there
a few times, and each time I think, I can't
believe people actually live here.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Gosh, we've only got sorry, guys, wet ten seconds. We
have to say goodbye. I wasn't watching the clock. Mike Kreisel,
Brad Olsen. Go and check out the podcast everyone. We'll
be back very shortly.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Good wrap Up also works with us to talk property.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
James Brown.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Welcome to the Weekend Collective, the seven of the twenty oh.
I've got an interesting little bit of payback coming back
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who will have heard that reverb going on that's sat there? No,
it's still quite weird. Can you hear that little echo there?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We might just that is really strange. I'm not sure
if you can hear it on radio. You got always
text me on nine. Right now, I've got this stadium
sort of reburb and I think it might be something
bouncing back from brad Olsen, So we might just who's
down the line. We're going to introduce him in a second. Ah,
you're right, that's well, that's better. That's better for me.
(01:38):
We've solved it, Thank goodness. Who that was? That was interesting?
You may have not heard any of that in radio land.
You might be like, what's Tim talking about? He says
he sounds weird, but he sounds fine. But I was
hearing myself back about about zero point twenty five of
a second later and the most weird reverbs. So I
think we've solved that one. Oh that's relief. Anyway, Welcome, Welcome, Hello,
(02:01):
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Coming up in today's show, We've got our panel who'll
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after four for the one roof radio show, we are
(02:23):
joined by Ilse Wolf and she's a property investment advisor.
And I've got a simple question for Elsa because it's
one other void. Because I don't want to be rude,
not to her, but anyone. I said, tell me why
the property market doesn't suck right now? Because it just
feels that the property market sucks and I want her
to tell me if I'm right rom and if so
or if not, why or why not? That was confusing,
(02:45):
wasn't it? And also what renovations give best bang for buck?
Because I get the feeling that when the market sucks,
people are looking to add value in other clever sort
of ways. So we'll talk about where you can give
you best bang for buck in after five former principal
of Barradina, she's an educations consultant. Now Sandy Pasley joins us,
and I'm sort of asking for a end on this one.
(03:05):
But accountability, when do we actually if your kids do
something wrong or they break something, when do you say, well, okay,
we'll repair it. We'll get it repaired, but guess what
you're paying for some of it? Give me your pocket
money right now, hand it over because one of mine,
and I guess is now anonymity. A couple of screen
breaks of the same laptop have added up to over
(03:27):
one thousand bucks. So I've said, right, how much have
you got in your pocket money? So we're going to
talk about that. Also, the speed dating of teaching, which
is parent teacher interviews. What are they for? What shall
would be asking? Should we care? Should you get along
and do those people go. They're the ones who have
probably got no problems because they're the diligent parents who participate.
It's the parents who don't turn up. Maybe we'll talk
(03:49):
about that with Sandy as well. That's five o'clock for
the parents squad, and we'll be also wrapping sport and
looking what's in the next twenty four hours. I see them.
Lianniwson had quite a good couple of practices anyway, lots.
Isn't it Welcome to the Weekend Collective? It is ten
parts three debating all the issues and more. It's the
panel on the Weekend Collective on news talks hedb Yes,
(04:14):
welcome and down the line. Well, of course we know
who it is because we heard me mention him briefly.
He is he's the busiest man in show business. Was
that was just the description to me. Somebody said, he
has got to be the busiest man in showbis. He's
also dabbles and economics generally, I think twenty four to seven.
Brad Olsen gea, Brad, how are you going?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Good afternoon? I'm well, I'm hoping I'm not causing reverb
across the across the airwaves. This time. I was I've
been trying to be a bit more techy as well
in my various pursuits, and I'm not sure if that
pulled off particularly well this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, look, just to put it gently, you blew it.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I look to my day job job.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nice to have you on the down the line there
coming to us from Wellington in the studio with me.
He's oh, look, I mean I've tried to describe him
in all sorts of ways. I think he is this
man who said you're the busy us man and show
Brad Olson. But in fact I suspect that in his
time that is an epithet you could attach to Mark
Kreis or a broadcast a presenter, journalist, lawnmarer, concrete, a bricklayer, fencer.
(05:17):
There's something else I learned about him the other time.
But Mark, hello hello.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, No, And can I just say, for the record,
you always sound weird to me, especially the introduction Mark,
I Brad down the line, I did say you were
the hardest working man in show business. I also think
you're kind of like the James Brown of economics.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Is that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Was I alive when this James Brown fellow.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Was hang on, whoa have you not heard of James Brown?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
James Brown?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
You know, I'm searching my current brain and nothing's.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, My goodness, Isaiah, can we have for the next break?
I feel like a sex machine? Okay, it's one of
his songs. Not I don't know why I thought of that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
One of the greatest soul singer's soul singers sold on
feel Good.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I'm a top forty music listener, like come, I didn't,
so I've just had a look. He passed away in
two thousand and six. According to Yes Google, I was
not particularly starting to listen to a lot of stuff
at that point, so generationally, I think I'm just I'm
missing out clean.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I know what happens is as you go through your
teens and twenties, then one day someone wakes you up
to a few other styles of music, and then you
suddenly become someone who's trawling the sixties, seventies, eighties soul blues.
I'll send him a playlist.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The exciting thing about this brand is that you give
a chance to discover James Brown, and let me tell you,
it's a wonderful journey.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So yeah, we're live at the Apollo you'll be getting
some samples this hour. Anyway, I think we should get
on to talking about what we're here for, shouldn't we.
Now Look, I'm first solemn things first. The MP's paying
a tribute to Tapati Murra MP. Take a timelined Natasha Camp.
I think the thing that worries I think the thing
(07:06):
that everyone resonates is just someone who's fifty years old
who was having coffee with her friends and has got
a kidney's disorder. Next day she's gone. That was that
is a shock. Fifty is young? Young, young, isn't it Mark?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, it's an awful shock actually, and it appears maybe
that she was a lot sicker than everybody realized. I mean,
one of the things that is apparent with something like
this is how everybody came together to mourn her in
unity in parliament. That all is bickering and nasty stuff,
and it's just a realization that someone who's a mum,
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who's a sister, who's a partner, you know, who had
a very strong impact in her community. I've been out
to money. I did amazing things during COVID in terms
of vaccinations and looking after that community.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Has passed away.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So yeah, yeah, really really sad and lots of love
to the Farno and the people.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Now, Brad, what are your thoughts about it? Fifty years Oh,
I'll tell you what. Definitely too young, certainly too young.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And I think, like Mark said that, just the surprise
really that it came through. You know, it didn't seem
like it was something well signaled. It wasn't, you know,
like she was out there doing anything different, and then
all of a sudden the news broke that she had
passed away overnight. I mean desperately said grateful that parliamentarians
could put their bickering aside for the time. But also
(08:32):
I think given that Tomacky Mikoto was I think one
of the most marginal seats in the last election, politics
does come through very quickly. You know. I saw a
lot of people saying, what does this mean? What's coming
through next? And so although it's absolutely appropriate that we
mourn the loss of someone who was very very keen
to give her time to make sure that the people
that she represented got the affair Jews got talked about,
(08:54):
got the attention they deserved, life does seem to move
on very quickly. Because we're already talking about a by election.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, and that was so close last one. Yeah, something
like that and after a recount. But also all the
controversy around the use of the census starter and how
that was used to target voters and things in that
that electure as well.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So that'll be definitely one to.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Watch onto slightly here, onto slightly more cynical, or well,
onto the lighter side of politics. I guess I say
this as the lighter side. So x speaker, Well, he's
been sued as the speaker, the officer of the Speaker,
Trevor Maillard is being sued by a child over Parliament's
protest music. And I heard the interview with the lawyer
for the child tutor Tally trying to convince Heather that
(09:37):
there was there was a case to be heard here.
He also talked about, you know that they were pumping
water into the lawn and travel and new rope had
excrement on it or something like that. I don't get it, Mark,
what do you think the point of this is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
No? I don't get it either. I mean I I yeah,
I mean what was a child doing in that place?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Anyway? Wow, that wasn't a great place for a child
to be quite honestly.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But well, you know, if Trevor wanted, if the speaker
officer the speaker wanted to be mischievous, they could probably
enjoying the child's family for endangering them in something that
they were aware of the data.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't think it's going to go very far, to
be honest. I mean, it was a stupid thing to
do at the time. Those are crazy times when I
think back, but to blast them with water and music
and things like that. I actually think Trevor Mallard thought
he was being funny, but.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Everybody else thought maybe being a bit of a dick.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Really stick to being speaking, not a comedian at that point.
I mean it clearly. I mean it was ridiculous. Let's
pea clear from all sides. Everyone I think at that
time didn't do themselves well, the protesters or the likes
of the speaker at the time. What I found sort
of more surprising was that part of this lawsuit seems
to be not only the use of music and sprinklers,
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but the fact that the music was quote bad and
that one of the songs was the likes of Baby Shark.
I mean, like, surely this sort of gets thrown out
as vexatious and court because it just wastes everyone's time.
I mean, if you go to a protest, you know
they were going to be some things and some responses
you probably don't like. Does it Has it really caused
mental anguish, humiliation, degradation and dehumanization? I mean, let's get real.
(11:13):
The courts have got a lot of stuff they need
to do, and they should concentrate on the important stuff
because it's already way too long of a wait, we
shouldn't be wasting our time on it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, what if they dismissed the case and they and
there's costs waded against the claimant, what's the lawyer going
to do?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Then?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't know it does it's a look, it's fun
for us to talk about it, but that's about as
much as it should go in the public vein, isn't it. Yeah?
Examining the playlist?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, well obviously no James Brown, then I think.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
No, No, We'll put Brad in charge of the of
the playlist next time we need to get rid of people.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
If I'll put baby shark Beck on them.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Anyway. So, I don't know, it's just it's a funny
old reminder of a funny old time and it's like
every time I see a story. I was on the
net the other day and I just saw some clips
of something and everyone's wearing face marks and masks, and.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I was like, what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We have ah COVID times. That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think it's something.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's it's it's a I think we'd all rather forget.
And actually, when you think back on it, it's easy
to forget because we didn't do anything. We just sat
around waiting for the things to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Maybe a little longer in Auckland, of course.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
But yeah, sorry, Tom. Can we just go back to
the fact that you said that you were on the net?
Who says on the net these days?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Good point, Brad. What am I supposed to say? I
was surfing?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Well, I mean I would have expected surfing the internet
or something from you on the net. I don't know
if that. I think that's too new school or old school.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You can text on nine two nine two people as
that new school or old school, as Brad being mean
to the host, as Brad being mean to me. I
think Brad, I think he's got it in him. He
could be in his passive sort of smiley way. It's
like the smiling assassin. He puts a jab and you
don't really realize until someone says, did you hear what?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Actually, it's mine and Brad's job to gang up on you. Okay,
thanks guys and saw I'm on your side on this.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Brad who says that on the net, I don't know
by the way he interwear, isn't it. The good news
is that this is how wonderful the text system works.
I've had a truckload of texts saying yes, we all
heard that weird echo on your voice time. So there
we go. Thank you people, thank you for that. Speaking
of politics, Winston Peters has apologized. Look, I mentioned it
because it's funny sort of that he's apologized for calling
(13:23):
to party Mara MP target to feris a dickhead in
the house. He obviously it's one of those things where
the hand sad. People go, oh, I heard that, I'm
gonna type it in and they have to refer to
the record and they go he did say that under
his breath. But I guess that the bigger question is
parliamentary standards. Dickhead? Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, he's been pretty staunch. He was outraged at
the use of the C word and and stuff. I mean,
you know, you've got to you've got to sort of
show consistency here, the right Honorable Winston Peters, because I
think you know, everybody's frustrated and angry at the moment.
(14:02):
I remember, remember we're just just Sinder returned that it
was arrogant prick was it about Seymour?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And then they signed with some sort of yeah, is gederate.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I mean, if people are getting frustrated, and if you
look at question time, if you look at at behavior
in the house, it's it's it's pretty, it's pretty school
yard nonsense.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I do want to get them, Okay, they do behave
like school children and the bickering is but I do
want them to keep their language up, don't you, Brad?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yes, But I guess well, I'm trying to figure out
we like to say that word on the radio. Is
that allowed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What dickhead?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I just used the word dick before.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh my god, So this is canceled of control.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
This is my question though, right, is that like sort
of you see this evolution over time in terms of
what's acceptable or not. And although I'm certainly not going
to read them out on the radio because someone would
have to press the dump button. There is this interesting
analysis that comes out for that. The Broadcasting Standards authlorready
does every sort of five to ten years around basically
like how bad a word can you get away with
at what time from sort of what sort of person?
(15:04):
And to be fair, dick and dickhead seems to not
even be bad enough to be on the list. So
I think we're fine. But again, you couldn't say it
on the six PM news, I don't think. I don't
think you necessarily hear it on the lakes of fulling
shows and that, so there's there's a limit there. I think,
probably more importantly is that the best that Winston Peters
can do.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So I've heard hosts on this station. You took us
the S word the other morning, s.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
H one T. Yeah, I've used it, especially now because
I don't know because it's it's three o'clock in the afternoon,
whereas you know, two o'clock in the morning, I mean
in the like, okay, so I had no idea who
you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So I have heard it, and I agree it's very
interesting that evolution isn't Brad because there was a time
when the word bugger, which is the classic example. I
mean that you know that you couldn't say that in public,
and then there was the ad and then changed and
we're all a lot more relaxed about it now. I
was explaining to my daughter the other day that you
can actually still get a fine for using offensive language
(16:15):
in public if they really want to.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think that that's pretty It's pretty difficult to establish
that you can. But yeah, those laws are harder to
prove now. I think they've loosened to.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's still a law.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's all about context and intention. Like
I've had callers on my and I'm going to say
the B words, you know, so I don't have to
flock shoved down everyone's throat. I'm just going to say
literally the B words. I had a call once who
was using you know, B words to describe everything, and
his manner was aggressive, and in the end I said, hey,
can you just call it with the language, whereas if
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somebody goes casually lets it slip by. I've had callers
who accidentally and I haven't had the delay set, who
have actually said the F word, but they didn't mean
it in a way that was aggressive and not a
single complaint or text because everyone realized that it was
sort of just slipped out, whereas if somebody had come
on and gone boom boom with the word intention as.
(17:09):
I think nine tenths of it isn't it, Brad certainly?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
And I think that's also what you see in a
lot of the analysis writers that people have a very
different view in terms of like you say, what time
of the day, the context, if it's the host saying it, verse,
if it's you know, a caller that's come through, and
a whole bunch more. I guess the point though, for
the likes of Parliament is that surely they can come
up with better things. They've been much much better over
time at coming up with insults. I mean, you can't
(17:32):
call someone a liar in the chamber like that is
a straight up. You either apologize, you get turfed out.
Now if you can't say the word liar, but you
can say the word dickhead. I sort of suggest just
get better with your lads. You are literally paid as
an MP to go and debate in the chamber. Come
up with some better zingers, man.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But to be fair, but to be fair Brad that
it was kind of like he was sitting down.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It was he wasn't paid.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I did say, Look, Peter said, no such pledgue was
made by any such country as named by that questioner.
Parris says, are you sure, and he goes, yes, I'm positive,
I'm like your dickhead.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But he was sitting down it finished speaking, because you
can see it he's kind of slumped in his gym.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Wouldn't be annoying if we've made a whole lot of
work for our management today with somebody who's like, I mean,
I blame brad Ols.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
This is job creation scheme.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh, it is quite funny. Anyway. Somebody has reminded me
I have used some strong language. Just said a text saying, Tim,
you regularly use a particular word. And they've told me
what it is when talking about Donald Trump. And then
I think the rest of the text it cuts off.
But he put me on intrigued.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
What that word is?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Now? Well it rhymes with old, it's two syllables. Anyway,
I tell you what I think. I need to go
and have a cup of teen, lie down, and everyone
can just regroup. Mums, you can turn mums and dads
turn the radio. What No, I'm going to take a break.
We'll be back after. We'll be back after this message
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Speaker 5 (18:55):
Machine.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, welcome back to.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
The Weekend Collective. Well, I think that's a little bit
of James Brown, just to just to initiate Brad Olsen
one of our panelists today and Mark Kreisel. But what
do you think? All right? Slightly interesting Brad?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Oh yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't pick it myself
as my outro song or ething, but yeah, it was,
it was. It was good. You know, no Maroon five.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Next time you, next time you MC or give a speech,
I want you to walk up to that number. Okay,
I reckon you get you would.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Own that room, Brad, you would own that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Where he comes mic drop moment on the politics. Look,
Luxeon has left the NATO summit without meeting Trump. Probably
not the most lucky not probably not the most interesting
thing that happened at NATO. Probably the most interesting thing
was Mark Rutto referring to Trumps. Daddy has to sort
out the fight. And I think especially his Dutch accent
(19:49):
sort of really makes it resonate, doesn't it. He's got
that sort of you know, and then Daddy has to
come and sort to Dale.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And they're completely obsequious message that he's sent to Trump,
mister President, dear Donald, you know, congratulations, thank you for
your just of action in Iran. You're truly extraordinary. You've
done things that no one else has dead to do.
You make it all safe.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know, it's well smart politics, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I mean I did hear somebody who'd worked in
Trump's White House before, Scaramuci's saying he loves it, but.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
He also thinks he doesn't respect you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You don't get any respect for doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yea, is it? What do you think? Brad?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Look, I found it a bit weird, to be honest.
This week I was going through and the number of
times that I had to check social media and go
is this a meme that someone's made up or is
it real life? Was scary the number of times that happened.
I mean, also, over the last sort of seven days,
we've gone from the brink of World War three to apparently,
you know, a ceasefire in the Middle East. Then we've
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got the head of NATO calling the US president daddy.
I mean, you couldn't script this sort of stuff like
it was just I think, if I'm the Prime Minister,
if I'm Christopher Luxon, I'm actually fairly happy with how
things went through. I showed up, I made sure that
New Zealand's interests are there, you know what's happening. You've
got a bit of FaceTime with all the important leaders,
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and he didn't get drawn into any weird stuff. I mean,
that's got to be a win.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
The biggest thing that came out of it for me
with Christopher Luxen is that he needs to get his
tailor to update his suitect. He was meeting the Chinese
premiere and the button was sort of it just didn't
look it looked like he got it from sort of
the op shop. And this is the guy I think
you can get a well fitting suit. I'm not going
to talk to you about that, Brad, because you buy
your suits. That's you told me last time we spoke
(21:38):
that you never spend more than two hundred bucks on
a suit, So i'd be.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I was wondering where that was going about to sort of,
you know, absolutely go me about my fashion choices. But yes,
I mean I'm an economist. We've talked about this before
I go to spend huge amounts. Yes, I mean the
Prime Minister. Well, look, honestly, I never look at that
sort of stuff in any great regard. If he's wearing
a bright pink suit, maybe i'd care a bit more,
but honestly, it's not the biggest thing on my ran.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, the only reason I mentioned it was because I
watching the news and my wife doesn't really pay a
lot of attention to the news, and she mentioned it.
But I think even before she did, my daughter, who
wouldn't care to unless she goes as Jack, is not
fitting very well daddy, and I looked and I went, oh,
my goodness, I can meet in the Chinese premiere.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If you measured you look at prime minister's the evolution
of time, and you look at them when they first
came in and when they are getting well into the job,
and that, yeah, they they become incredibly unhealthy. That it's
a it's a horrendous job. I mean, I remember talking
to Chris Hipkins once and I said, what's your day
look like? And he said, well, we start the day
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around six o'clock. We've got an agenda and everything that
we're going to do by Haapas six. We've torn it
up and we start all over again. You know, it's
constant crisis coming at you from from media.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
From you know.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, I actually going back to NATO, though I'm surprised
that Luxeon wasn't in greater demand because he's just he
just sat down with Chi and you know, it's a
it's a it's a delicate balance that New Zealand plays
with our trade with China but also alliances with the
rest of the world. And I think people will have
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been interested in his perspective of what was happening in China.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Probably gazumped by what was going on round with bunker busting,
bombs and all that. But actually thought, I thought that
one of the nicer and more interesting moments and was
Trump's I thought genuine response to that Ukrainian reporter about
her family and she became a bit of a in
the spotlight for a second when he was taking a
question of her name's Miroslava Petza the BBC Ukrainian Service,
(23:40):
and he asked where she was from and took an
interest and said, as your husband a soldier, and she
said yes, and he did. I actually think that he
does get affected by often the most person he's most
recently seen. But I was thinking it was interesting, wasn't it,
Brad to see his response to her and some empathy,
And I thought, if that leads to him saying, yeah,
(24:00):
you can have our patriot missile defense system, then that's
a big one.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Indeed, And it was quite heartfelt, you know, he sort
of he said, look, I wish you a lot of luck,
and you know that it's very upsetting and to basically
give give my regards to your husband. I guess the challenge,
right is that at the same time as all of that,
And yes, it was clearly a nice gesture. And some
of this is also coming from the President who said
he had solved it all on day one, and when
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now a long way past day one, we've had more
conflict come through. There's no action that seems to be
happening on Russia Ukraine, so platitudes great action would be
a whole lot better.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, Sam and Gaza, I think Brad, I mean, he
he you know, he talked about solving these things straight away.
You have to give him some credit. I think for Iran,
I think he stopped that really fast speaking of bad language,
the way he actually showed his displeasure.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I was sort of with him on that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, and I think and I think you know you
should I mean sometime and there is that it was
a it would have been a very tough thing for
him to do, to go on those bunker buster bombs,
because Americans are very good at getting into wars, they're
not good at getting out of them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yea, what was your take on all that?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, I mean, I don't know if sending a few
stuff fighters to drop some bombs is getting into wars
like that. There's two very different approaches, right, you have
boots on the ground and you don't. And this was
nowhere near boots on the ground. There was never any
uttering of doing something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So, yes, Brad, But what about if the retaliation there
was a calculation of what that retaliation would.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Be in the end, it was orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But if they had lobbs and bombs into a military
base or taken out some of the American fleet in
the in the Gulf, and American soldiers went home and
body bags, all of a sudden, the equation changes.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think that I would say that that calculated that
Iran's military and their ability to respond. I mean the
skies Israel removed, you know, had had whatever the word
is over the skies. I think it was well that's
where it does.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But let's remember as well, what was the purpose of
it was to you know, get rid of the nuclear
program and similar and depending on if you're talking you
know who you're talking to, you apparently the outcome was
anywhere from absolutely nothing to absolutely everything. And the fact
that it's not conclusive enough from any source as to
exactly what we ended up with there, I guess I
just worry that, you know, it was a big move
to make. Yes, this seems to become for the moment,
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surely there is some further retaliation to go. That seems
to be how the Middle East works is that people
can and will buy their time until there's further retaliation
that comes through. It's just one of those things that
I sort of worry that, you know, that there was
a complete breach of international law if you want to
go look at it in the details, that that's a
worrying place to start to get to.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And echoes of the Iraq war with the you know,
arguing over whether the whether the intelligence was correct or not,
whether they are close to making a bomb or not.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
And also it seems pretty.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Obvious that they actually spirited it away, the enriched uranium,
which is somewhere hidden somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well that's probably why. Look, I actually, broadly speaking, I
agree with them, making sure you know, I didn't. I
didn't particularly mind the striker, just wanted it to be effective.
But ultimately there has to you know, you can't just
pretend that the only solution is military. In the end,
you need the I A E A. Isn't that right,
the E I E IO. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You need Winston.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Church will say George Jaw is better than war war.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's the one. Yeah, we'll go with Winston.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, hey, which one?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well he was named one was named after the other,
so we can yeah, Winston Winston Peter's wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But he was? I assume, so yeah, no, he was,
that's what he's claimed. Anyway, Look, we have jumped from
topic to topic. Let's let's get back on track in
just a moment. It's we're going to have a chat
about the Oh it's more politically heavy stuff, but we'll
get onto something a little bit cheerful. As well during
before we wrap it all up, it is twenty two,
it's four News Talks. He'd be.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no no,
no no no no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
No no.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is not James Brown.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
This is Henri Salvador. And it's just a little bit
of musical trivia because I was playing a bit of
the Muppets to them kids, you know, the Manama Up,
which is what this is. But guess what it was
actually a song before this, in fact, by someone else,
the Pierro someone it's an Italian song that this is
Henri Salvador in ninety sixty nine, before the Muppets created it,
and that's this is the sort of original one. And
(28:46):
Brad brad Olsen, who's with me now, was a bit
nervous that I was playing some more James Brown and
you were thinking, that's.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Definitely I Look, I was going, look, I realized that
I don't know enough about music, but clearly I'm way
behind and on where I thought I was. So oh,
I don't know if that makes me feel better or
worse that I sort of got the song but knew
it wasn't the version that I'd heard, or that I
was completely lost on where it was from.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
There was absolutely no relevance to it. It was just
a little bit of musical trivia I introduced because everyone
I was thinking, who doesn't know them? Upets theme? And
then I thought, but how many people don't know that? Actually?
Originally it was something well I'm not sure, more serious,
but slightly different French is in the Italians. Now, look,
I don't get too excited about this. So James Cook
(29:30):
High is changing its name to a Terreo Mari name.
A next student has said, it's like it's just window dressing.
But it's going to be renamed to Haikura a Kiwa
in twenty twenty seven, and the idea had consultants, consultation
with local ee, and approval from the Mari queen. It's
sort of it's one of those things that would be
(29:51):
great for talkback. But it's a school. They want to
change their name. I'm not sure about the necessity to
arrange to erase James Cook either, but it's a school
who cares.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's very sensitive now to a lot of people, the
name of James Cook very different to the way that
I was brought up and that he was he's an explorer.
He was an explorer and he came to New Zealand.
But for a whole lot of people, they just see
it as a time that there will turned to helen
(30:24):
a handcart basically, you know, and it's I can understand,
because it could become a bit of a lightning rod
in that community, and the last thing you want is
your school being intacked or for.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, it becomes a lightning ride when you sort of
change the name.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I guess, yeah, but that'll pass, That will pass.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Clay, what do you reckon, brad Well?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I mean, yeah, I don't think it deserves a huge
amount of time. I mean, the local community sound like
they've been involved as well. If they want to go
and change it, then sort of all power to them.
It doesn't it doesn't matter hugely in my mind. And
probably more importantly, I'm still a bit surprised coming from
Fungy Day, when basically every school was you know, every
state school at least was named after an area. You know.
(31:04):
I went to Funy Day Boys who was along the road.
There was Tekipunga, there was come or High. You know,
I don't know. I just actually found it strange to go. Actually,
there are clearly schools out there that are not just
geographically located or called based on where they're from. So
oh again, not a big one for me. If the
community is up for it, if the community wants to
change it, then go hard. I guess the only question
(31:24):
is when do you what threshold, because if you give
the community a full on go, they'd probably start to
call it school in mixed school face.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So I think it is interesting. It's one of those topics.
And the topic of James Cook is something that we
don't really talk about so much now anyway, and maybe
it is something that's worth kicking around from time to time.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Was was it good? What happened?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Was it or was it both?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Or everyone in this country pretty much probably owes the
fact that they're here to the history that we all share,
good and bad, so we should be able to.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, But likewise, it's worth remembering he wasn't some sort
of colonie. So he was an explorer who sailed to
the ends of the world to where where no other
European had had from the literally Entipodes apart from Mabel Tasman. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And what was it that the Royal Society. This is
what I was learned something. Don't you when these stories
(32:21):
come up? Have you been on the He was spurred
up while I was on the news article. It talks
about this renaming spurred by the Royal Society of London's
want of an observation of the transit of Venus across
the Sun from Tahiti. It's worth re memory. He was
an explorer, despite the fact that everyone wants to you know.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I think even more of a fun fact that I
don't think they got to witness the transit either because
it was too cloudy.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That is like the millennium, remember that that was so
Sorry Brad, you probably don't, but the night of the Millennium,
it was so cloudy that no one saw the sun
come up.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Brad was born in the Mili.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I was alive. I don't have particularly good memories of
when I was a couple of years old, sure, but
it was a good to be able to claim that
I lived through the millennium. A millennium. That that's a
good one. I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, and then be I'm to say the word millennium.
Well done. Sorry, we are trolling each other a bit today.
I love you guys. Now this Greg Murphy as having
a crack at the government's plan to remove restricted license tests.
So at the moment I gather, in fact, I had
to brush up on this one. You have to sit
a couple of tes practical tests, but now it'll just
be one. Back in my day, I got it when
(33:29):
I was fifteen, and you did it written. Then you
went for a drive around the block with a local
cop and away you go, and ye.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Toodu waited driver's license at that time. No fifteen, you
know we're restricted.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Your second test, you got it and away you went.
I got mine on my fifteenth birthday. Wow, that is
that's and all I had to do was.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Drive around the block in New Plymouth and then I
drove off and I got a flat tight. I had
no idea, just keep driving, Brad.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I got mine quite late in life, relatively speaking, but
importantly I went through it, probably a whole lot more
recently than both of you, so I've had to do
the whole graduated thing. You go in and get your
you do your your original test, You go and do that,
then you go and do the restricted Eventually after you've
sort of you know, made sure that you're to that
point restricted In my mind, like was way, way, way
(34:20):
harder than the fall, and then for the fall, I
think when I did it, I did a defensive driving
course first because I wanted to speed it up. I
had to wait a whole year before I did the full,
and the full did feel for most of it like
an absolute tikbox exercise, as though were making sure that
I hadn't become a complete idiot between the time that
I did the really hard restricted test and the time
that I was at now. So I'm I'm more for
(34:41):
it only because, look, I get Greg Murphy's point that
actually this stuff is pretty vital. You know, you can't
just stuff it up and have it as a pure tikbox.
But in my mind, the full licensed test is a
whole lot easier than the restricted one. So if that's
the case, I'm just not sure you get a whole
lot more from doing the full in the way it's
currently I understand.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I mean, it seems to me like a money saving exercise,
and you have to be careful.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
There's a very.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It's a delicate balance that you have to get when
you start doing these things, Like there's a rolling backer.
I see in terms of safety rigs and the way
they're policed and things.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Like that with work safe.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
And I'm just I'm old enough to remember the nineties
and Cave Creek and things like that when governments start
cutting money and all you know, and bad things start
to happen, and then the whole cycle starts again. We
talk it up.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The best thing I ever did. I was talking about
this literally with my daughter today, and it would be
decades since I did this course. But school, our school
at the time, Western Heights High School area, we all
had to sit a defensive driving test and we had
the course, and I still remember. It must have been
very well taught, but I still remember the lessons I learned.
(35:53):
So when I'm driving down a busy street, I think
how I look for the look for the kid coming
out from a driveway or the ball or whatever that
I'm constantly it was the best thing I ever did
for safe driving was not so much. The test was
defensive driving. So everyone do your defensive drive and put
your kids through it. Whatever what do you reckon? Mark?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
So I think we.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Could only get better at driving. I actually tend to
think New Zealanders are probably the worst drivers in the
western world.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
They could come across.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think we're shocking, we're rude, we're impatient, and we
could slow down.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I just yeah, I do have a funny story and
my driver's test. It was we literally drove round a
couple of side streets and down Fenton Street, which is
the main drag, and a pedestrian was looking the wrong
way and stepped out right in front of me, and
I banged on my brakes and came to a huge, staggering,
squeally halt in the traffic office. So just go emergency stop.
(36:53):
I thought I was in trouble because of the squealing,
and He's like, that was great, mate, he says, you're
home and host.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
I mean, look good. Good instincts. Clearly to Mark's point though,
we not only are we rubbish drivers on the whole,
but we also thinking that we're God's gift to driving
at the same time. And that's that's the concern I
think across the board. It's interesting. I've just been having
a look while we've been talking, trying to figure out
if a few numbers around the likes of your restricted
and full license on the test results on the on
the net on the interwebs. You know, I've sent my
(37:21):
carrier pigeon to go and find find some access to
the Internet that's plugged unneath in it for me. And
I'm a little bit sorry that.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I thought that was very good.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Brad.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've had text telling me that on the net is modern,
it's it's new, it's all new.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
I'm gonna I'll go back to my young friends.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Thirty seconds before we take the break.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Just just interesting that that our full pass rates are
still not nearly good enough to think that maybe we
can fully get rid of it. So I guess the
question is is there a middle ground? Maybe you don't
get rid of the full license, but realize that it's
not quite as strict as they're restricted.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, round safe, Yeah, well everything in moderation, let's take
the middle ground. Indeed, indeed, it's eight and a half
minutes to four on New Stalks.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
D be streaming live on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The Weekend Collective call eight hundred ten eighty on News
Talk said.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
B Yes, welcome back. This is the Weekend Collective. The
panel and it's Brad Olsen, Mark Krasl and Meat and beverage,
Lucky last guys, Jeff Bezos and his fiance and now wife,
Laurence Sanchez. The Venice thing, it just seemed everything's sort
of coincided with people being anti tourists, anti rich people
(38:37):
and that sort of being. I think Venice has put
them up, all right, But are you you're thrilled about
the young people's nuptials? They're they're brad Olsen. Hang on,
you've started talking. We can't hear you.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Oh what about now there we are? We got you perfect?
Sorry did you say young people's wedding?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, I'm joking. No, it's being ironic.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Sorry, I was gonna say your sack is a measure that. Look,
you're clearly doing far too well for me. I guess
I just thought it was another very rich person completely
not reading the room at a time when there's clearly
a lot of concerns. Why do you have to sort
of go and make it so big and fancy and
then everyone's face if they've done it like most of
the big rich people seem to do, which is sort
(39:19):
of you keep it on the down low and continues, Well,
I mean, you leak the photos to one of the tabloids,
to sort of control the story. Instead, this just seemed
to be I'm going to punch you in the face
with just how sort of vicious it is in terms
of its profile.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I mean, so wasteful as well. I mean, you know,
the amount of money that they're throwing around is actually
kind of obscene. Ninety private jets flying in for the events.
It was just it's like, I don't know, I find
it a little bit revolting, to be honest. But on
the other hand, I think Venice complaining about people, you know,
tourism is kind of really nowadays. That's the only reason
(39:52):
that Venice is there. It's it's a tourist destination when
you walk around there. The few times I've been there
a few times, and each time I think, I can't
believe people actually live here.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Gosh, we've only got sorry, guys, wet ten seconds. We
have to say goodbye. I wasn't watching the clock. Mike Kreisel,
Brad Olsen. Go and check out the podcast everyone. We'll
be back very shortly.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Good wrap Up also works with us to talk property.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
James Brown.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
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