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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, and in no particular order. She's down the line
actually in Wellington. She's a political commentator. She's a podcaster,
host of the Three Girls, One Beehive podcast. She's a
former advisor for the previous National government. Looks Where hasn't
she been? It is Bridget Morton? Get a Bridget?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How you going afternoon?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am well, you know, just another gray winter Wellington day.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Really Oh you're giving up the big cell anyway? Nice
Nice to hear your voice and joining me here in
the studio. He's a hospitality veteran, restaurateur, realer, state agent. Again,
where hasn't he been? Is Luke Dela? Get a Luke
going good?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Thanks to him? Very good. I've been very busy. Actually,
I have you look at the Smith and Coey's auctions
that's on Monday, so there auction off al all the
sort of all the goods memorabilia. You could say, oh really, okay,
that's interesting. I'm going for Santa Sleigh forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Seriously, they're auctioning off. They've got a sleigh there for
Santa Slay forty thousand. Where are you going to stick it?
If you win it, sell of them will beat me
at forty five? Probably forty. Are they saying expected price.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Forty grand first bid, opening bid.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Opening bird. Well, I think you should sit on it
and wait till they have to drop it a bit,
because they might not get anyone at forty, So don't
jump in there. They might go, okay, we're taking five
bucks and then you're away. I'm sure you know more
about these things. And I actually, by the way, kind
of just that's nice to be back in the studio.
I've I've been away taken about ten days skiing down
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the Mackenzie Country, which was just fantastic, the smaller ski
fields like Dobson o How and Round Hill where we
just we were so lucky and gosh, it was good.
It's always good to get away you a bit of
a skier.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Look, I do love a ski. I do love a
ski and it's good to see you've got your top
lip nice of water too, Bridget.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You can't see this, but I grow a beard when
I go skiing, and the night before we woke up
for the last day, I said good night to my
daughters and I went and shaved everything but the mustache.
So I'm looking a little bit biggles. So I promised
not to walk past Sandy Hodge, our news reader while
she's doing the news, because she's getting the giggles. So look,
(02:28):
I'm not sure whether I should be posting a photo
of it anywhere. Maybe, but what do you think, Luke?
Shall I keep it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Keep it? It looks good? Do the handlebars so you
look like a traffic cop.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I actually did start that way. Then I thought, not
too much. It's a little bit too might need some
here diye on it too, by the way, but to
nineteen I did the handlebars and it's a little bit
too dodgy movie nineteen seventies. So anyway, hey, right, let's
get into it. Let's get into the politics. We'll start
with you, bridget So. I don't know how seriously to
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take these new poles, but New Zealand first ahead that
I've had a great pole with the Taxpayer's Union's pole.
New Zealand first on the cusp of double digits. Winston
Winston and his Party ahead of Act, they've jumped three
point sent percentage points. I mean, Winston doesn't like to
talk about poles, does he, But he might like this one,
Wouldnty Bridget? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
For him where he doesn't have an electriacy to rely
on anything above that five percent, three shold as a winner.
So the further he gets away from the five percent,
he's going to take some confidence from that. I am
the same as you, though, I think these poles are
too close at the moment to really take much from them.
And ultimately the end of the day, we've got National
Act and New Zealand first looking pretty stable as a government.
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They've still got a pathway to beauty the government, you know,
the other side, it's looking a bit shaky whether or
not they'd be able to form a government. So until
they kind of get that sorted out, it's not really
a two horse race.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What do you reckon, Luke? You know you're excited by
the pole, not excited cynical.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I think it's fantastic that Shane Jones and Winston Peters
are bumped up in the poles because what they're doing
is that it's a no nonsense approach that I think
kibis want to see and hear. I think they're getting
the trust of New Zealanders, I think, I think, and
that's where I see it, and the country needs it
right now. There's no strong, sort of strong politics at
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the moment, you know, like relocate the lizards and employ people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh the lizards. Do you think that's something in that
bridget Is that Shane Jones and Winston they seem to
have the sort of the ground covered where they can
just shoot from say what they're thinking. You've got Shane
coming with the big hot takes all the time. Is
that something that's sort of resonating with voters? Do you think?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I think so, particularly in an era where we have
a lot of focus grouped political communication. You know, we
get a lot of you know, what should be said
and that sort of thing, and Shane Jones doesn't focus
group you anything. It just comes straight out, and I
think I think people just really enjoy actually that sort
of cutting through. I mean, you can't overreage it though,
because we're still talking about pushing double digits, they're still
below ten percent. That's not a mainstream view, but there's
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definitely people that that is what they want to hear
from their politicians, just straight what they're thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What about I mean, do you think that that luxem
wire taking anything positive from this bridget? But even though
their numbers are not particularly doing anything flash, but his
main thing is he wants to be in government. I
guess next time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, absolutely. And you always look at the trends with Poles,
and they are consistently There's been a couple this year
where they've fallen behind labor, but for the most part
they have sat consistently above labor. And I still go
back to the part that he's got a pretty stable government.
There's not really a stable government on the other side
to really compete with that. So until that becomes a
realistic proposition, he doesn't really have to concern himself too
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much about how low it's going computed to labor.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But according to a Pole, we had it a little
while ago. I can't remember who it was, so I
think it was one news They got all in a
lather over the fact that it could be a change
of government and we're talking about maybe they haven't got
their ducks lined up the bridget, But I mean, does
it really matter for the voters. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Look I don't think any voters, particularly at this point
in the electoral cycle, look at a pole and think, yeah,
that makes a difference to how I'm going to vote. Really,
reason where poles kind of cut through is closer to
the election, and you look at some of those miners
and you might say, vote for somebody that doesn't look
like they're going to get over that five percent threshold
because you really want them to still be in government,
or you might give them an electorate seat vote. You know,
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that's where it changes. But for the most part, this
is just noise.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, look, do you look at any particular pole
with more affection than another one? I mean, because there
seem to be so many. I can't keep up with them.
Take a couple of weeks off and I go, oh,
what's this one of one of many?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I don't try. I don't. I'm not that I don't
trust poles. I just take no notice of poles. I
mean I listened to people on the street. That's your
true pole, right, and at the polling booths, right, that's
what a true pole is. Sound like Winston Peters.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Now, Actually, funny thing is I think if you stood
for politics and you were in my electorate. I think
i'd give I'd look at giving you a nod, thank
you very much. Yeah, I don't know why I say that.
It seems like a pointless thing. Have you ever thought
of standing for politics?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Look? I have, actually I dried well, I gave it
a go. I wanted to do it, go meyalty a
couple of years go. Yeah, I'm still young though, plenty
of time.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, you're dabbled in politics. Have you ever thought
of being on the hustings yourself?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Bridget a little bit? But I think the more time
I spend around politics, I realize how hard the gig is.
I think people think that they're sort of sitting around,
you know, earning the big bucks, but it's really not.
That's not the reality. It's a really hard, stressful job.
And yeah, as I said, the more time I spend
around it, the less attractive it becomes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Hey, which poll, by the way, what's the one we
all look for a particular pole to go, oh, yeah,
we like this one? So this is the taxpayer union
curier pole? Is there a pole that Bridget Morton goes, Oh,
this is the one I've been looking forward to. What's
it going to say?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, never, because a we just don't actually have consistent
polling in the way we used to. So when I
went in Australian politics, you'd have a poll every week
and you can really measure those trends and you can
really kind of do it and reactive to what was
happening that week. We just don't have that money here
in the New Zealand political or media sector to fund
to that type of insight. As I say, it's mostly
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noise when the poles come out.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Now, by the way, a thousand people polled via landline
and mobile phone. Margin of era of plus or minus
three point one percent. And despite the fact I've discussed
this with polsters before, I still don't think I've quite
got a handle on the margin of era. But anyway,
there we go, Luke.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
If you got a favorite Poles, I don't have a
favorite pole. Okay, people of the streets they do called
me the mirror of Ponsby by the way, do that, earl?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Do they really?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Do they actually call you? Can I google that one
hundred everyone? I haven't got time to do it right now,
but if somebody is listening, can you google mirror of
Pons and b don't put in Luke Dala, just see
what it spits out. Could be eaaten like an interesting surprise. Anyway,
let's move on from Poles. There always been of fun,
they aren't they now. I missed some some of the
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coverage around this during the course of the week, so
I'll be honest with you, I did tune out from
the news. But the question around this COVID response inquiry,
the raw commission they're going to be which is looking
into the government's response. They're concentrating on the impact of
it extended lockdown and also vaccine mandates and safety. But
there's also been the question around whether Jacinda Adurn is
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going to give evidence. And look, I wouldn't be voting
and didn't vote for Gesindra I doing as Prime minister,
and I've got I could offer a lot of criticisms,
but there does seem to be amongst some people bridget
this sort of salivating it, sort of putting someone in
the stocks, and I'm frankly, I'm just not interested. I mean,
if she's going to give evidence, fine, but is there
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a bit too much lathering going on around this issue?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think so, And I do think that we need
to sort of not give a dinner break, because obviously
she is responsible for her actions. But ultimately, when it
comes upore the Royal Commission, it's not like the commissioners
are going to you know, American style litigation, you know,
drag her across every single decision she made. They're going
to be asking questions and asking for evidence about what
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led to the decisions they made, and what resources they
had and what all those kind of things to inform
actually a response. So I don't think even if she
does appear, and it does look like she might, now
I don't think people are going to get what they
want anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you reckon? Look, I think if they're ass
they should turn up, you know, should turn up and say,
well she says she will yeah, which is great but
plain and simple.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I honestly not really cares anymore. I think it's past.
You know, the bloods and the blood's on the ground,
scars remain, life moves on. What are they already going
to get out of it? Not a lot, not a
lot of all. Don't think, you know, I think there's
just more people on the gravy train trying to make
money out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think, I mean we all have. We all have opinions.
Everyone who's listening will have an opinion about something that
stands out to them from that particular period of time.
But I did take a moment to think the other
day because so there's a chat that was it a
chat with Kerry Woodaman and Chris Hipkins, which seem to
you know, be there bit at loggerheads. But I thought
to myself, actually, it's very easy for us to sit
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and by the way, the personal stake I have in
this and is that my mum died at the end
of the first lockdown and we had we had some
very difficult times to navigate. So you know, if anyone
has an extra grind, I think I could include myself
in there. But I also can sit back and think,
you know what, it was never times we'd never seen before,
and everyone's suddenly so wise in hindsight. And I think
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you're right Bridget that you know the Commission's going to
be more circumspect about things. And I think what you
touched on is that all we want to know is
what was the advice and how was it responded to?
Among other things? Is that going to be the biggest
thing for you?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Look or what. That's the biggest thing for me is
what the advice and what did they do with that
advice and where they went against that advice. That's that's
where I see it, and I think we just need
to move on. And God, it's just dragging on, isn't
it five years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How close are you following bridget recently?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I do think there is some people that do
need to be able to have their say, and I
do think that's why it's important that we have had
this second part of the inquiry and that sort of
Chris Hipkins interview you know you've responded to before where
he sort of called you know, a whole sit of
conspiracy theorists and not the mainstream. All this kind of
retoric came back up again, and I think for me
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that is the thing that is the most scarring that
is out of that COVID period is just that polarization
and how we had people that you were either in
the teen or you were completely and utterly should be
ostracized and you know, throwing down the back. And I
just didn't like that continuation of that rhetoric out of
Chris Sipkins. As someone who wants to put himself up
as a future prime minister, because it sounds to me
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like he hasn't learned any lessons from that twenty twenty
three kind of period where you know, the public told
him right pretty strongly, you haven't listened to us, particularly
in Auckland, and we're going to punish you for them.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Luke, anything to add before?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
We have nothing to add to that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Put that one to bed, gave a cup of tea
and lie down and come back after the break. Okay,
this is the panel on the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beverage.
Were with Luke Morton. Sorry, I just got suddenly Britchip
Morton and Luke Dalay. What did I do there? I
sort of made your cousins or something. Ah, back in
just a moment. It's twenty two past three, Newstalks. He'd
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be yes, welcome back twenty five and a half past
three on Tim Beverage. This is the week In Collective
panel on my panelists Bridget Morton and Luke Dello. Guys,
I cannot In preparing for the show, I did a
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bit reading about the Trump Trump tariffs, and there's more
tariffs on the way. There's tariffs coming from Brazil because
he doesn't like the prosecution of Bolsonaro, and there's Japan
and Canada everyone. I can't keep up with the tariff news.
So I'm gonna ask you, Bridget, can you explain it
to us?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In thirty seconds, I can explain everything going on in
Trump's mind.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Great hearing those people brace your sulf Highlights package, Bridget
Moreton and thirty seconds Trump tariffs go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I do have to say the underlying thing. And I
actually stolen this. I went to an A and Z
geopolitical expert, which a good job. You just well, I mean,
you just travel the world talking about politics and what's happening.
I mean that sounds pretty dreamy to me. But what
he was saying is basically what you see is a
breakdown of what was the pact that USA used to
have with the world, which is you buy all of
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our stuff and we'll look after you from a security
point of view. Now nobody's buying any of this stuff,
so the renegotiating, so you can just see through Trump's
mind what he's basically doing is going well, and you're
not buying us stuff anymore, but you still want us
to be the leaders of the free world and protect
you all and put all that leadership up. We'll actually
know you've got to pay for that benefit, and we're
going to make you do it through terriffs. I just
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don't know when Trump's voters though, we're going to click
to the fact that they the consumers, are going to
pay the cost.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't know if we've got
where's it all going to settle? Is the question, Luke,
what do you think wens when's it gonna When are
we actually gonna know what tariffs a where and who
an hour and how much.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
It's probably gonna settle when Trump's out right, that's why
it's gonna sit. Right, That's when it's gonna settle. But hey,
love will like him. He is the prison in the
United States, not the prison of the world. And he
is putting his country first. And that's a big thing
I read into this, And he's putting well and that
if you're.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
A consumer and you're paying truckloads more because he's tariff
the be Jesus out of everything. Part of my French, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But he's trying to get that manufacturing arm going in
American You know this, you know get the consumers to
spend more within the American products, and I think that's
where it's at. I think he's showing leadership, but not diplomacy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, bridget Oh, I think you're right. He's actually
just going in America first, this is how I try
and protect and grow that manufacturing sector. And he knows
that also. That's who voted for him, is are those
people that used to build the cars and make the
tires and all those big factories in rural and regional USA.
They are the ones that want him to save them,
and this is how he's saying they're going to save them.
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The problem is is that everything tells us about experience
and economics is that it's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The one that I really have a bit of disquiet
about and nothing surprises me about him because he is
who he is. Is this, you know, the fifty percent
tariff he's going to impose on Brazil because he isn't
like the fact that Jaya Belsonaro is being prosecuted, and that,
to me, I mean, that's just it's I mean, it's
Banana Republic sort of stuff, isn't, Luke.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's about personalism. Person, it's a sniper shot rather than
a shotgun's not a shot, you know. So, and you
know the only thing is really going to go up
as coffee beans, right, No? Not?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The only thing was in the number of thongs. Do
we actually I'm not sure Brazil is actually. I mean,
they might be the home of the thong, but do
they export them?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Not a lot of them, not much of them.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
My favorite, my favorite headlines from the week were he
referred to the Premier of Japan primeister of Japan. I've
got it wrong myself, actually, Shigeru Sheba as mister Japan
because he forgot his name, and he come and he
praised the head of Liberia for his excellent English when
English was actually this guy's main language. I guess you
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can't get it all right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But he is a simple man, isn't he simple? Did
he call them librarians as well Liberians?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't know, Actually, what is the name. I'm not
prim Libyans.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I would have thought Libyans.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, No, that's Libya Libraria. Yeah, Liberia. No, there would
be Liberians, wouldn't they Yeah, but not.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, it sounds like they're giving us books.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, well, in which case you shouldn't have been surprised
he has such good England. Anyway, Ah, there we go.
That's Trump out of the way for this week. Hopefully,
Now the UK and France the illegal immigration to the
UK via the small boats that they're going to be
sent back to France as part of a deal. The
government hopes to make a dent in the number of
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people crossing the channel illegally. Look, it's complex, isn't it.
I think this is going to be an ongoing issue
forever and ever, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Bridget Oh, absolutely, And I think often down here at
the bottom of the world, with this giant ocean surrounding us,
it's easy for us to cast criticisms of immigration policies
across Europe, But DA have a really difficult job about
managing who can come in, how they come in, to
make sure that they can support those people and actually,
you know whether or not therese jobs to them. Yeah,
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I'm very loth to kind of sort of make assertions
about what they should and shouldn't be doing when we
actually just have the privilege here where it's really hard
to actually illegally come to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Actually that is.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
One of the things I think it's almost difficult for
New Zealand. New Zealanders to understand, luke the challenges that
any country has, and I'm including America in the United
States with the legal border crossings and clamping down of that,
because we just don't have that easy gateway to illegal
immigrants to make their way here. So we're a little
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bit smug about it all, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You're pretty pretty coind of walled about it, aren't we
know we're protected by it. The only experience I had
was on which I was in London. The Algerians were
coming through France into London. There was a massive problem there.
But to be honest, I rather look at the spith
of Cooey's auction list.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Excuse me, is that you saying, Tim, I do not
like this topic you've chosen, heir? Can we talk about
how much I'm going to pay for Santa Slay? That's it.
We can put that out there on text, by the way,
you can text on nine two nine two. Apparently the
Smith and Coey's Santa Slay is up for auction and
they reckon a starting bit of forty thousand dollars. I
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reckon to quoite the castle, tell him he's dreaming.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I reckon if it goes for above forty thousand, that
actually the economy is doing really well, and that we
shouldn't listen to the CPI numbers anymore, because clearly, if
somebody's got their money to spend on a sleigh, they've
we've clearly got some money swimming around somewhere to Papa. Oh, oh,
I know, I don't think they've got any money either.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was going to make a very mischievous comment about
whether Papa would be interested in such an object and
why they would or wouldn't be, But I might leave
that alone. But that news in the industry. I think
that if you bought it, though, Luke, you'd be able
to say a little bit like the cast You to say,
look where do we put the sound a sleigh? Dad?
You say, look, park it behind the tarana, just in
front of the hold and whatever the quator's from. The
castle could be my mariltary slay on Ponsby Road, the
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mat slaves there. We can hands up anyone who googled
mayor Ponsonby to see whether Luke Dello featured in that
Google search. Now, this next one, the nurses striking during
to being understaffed. I can't help but feel that it's
compounding an issue with them the number of procedures that
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are going to be canceled as a result. So more
than thirty six thousand nurses are striking at the end
of the month for what they say as a failure
by Health NEWSIM to address their staffing issues. Again, you're
closer to the action politically, perhaps, Bridget. But I mean,
even if I'm not sure we could get the staff
forgetting what the money is, are there that many nurses
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available to suddenly bolster the workforce.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think that's one of the issues that we've had,
particularly since COVID is actually a workforce issue and keeping
people in the workforce. I think there is a bit
of inflation between sort of what's called safe staffing levels,
which is basically set by the unions about what they
think as the safe staffing levels, which differs in this
aspect to what Health New Zealand things. I have no idea, frankly,
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what is a safe staffing level, but those kind of
conflate together about how many people are actually on the
ward because that depends obviously how difficult a nurse's job
is from a day to day basis. Frankly, I think
this is mostly to do with pay, and if you
look at what they're offering, it is pretty low. It's
three percent over two years. But maybe that reflects what
our fischool situation is at the moment.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Luke, I mean, I stand with our frontline workers, all
frontline workers, I think, and I say staffing as an
a luxury is a necessity, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And I'd love to get my teeth into the hospital
budgets and really get into the budgets to see with
the fat is because there must be some fat and
they're going to some fat dogs, you know, these these
you know, I'm not saying the nurses are. I'm just
saying they should get all the money or the lion's
share of it, because we're going to lose them overseas,
right and we can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Ah Well, I feel that we are we strapped for cash,
Bridget we.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Must be in New Zealand and the government absolutely we're
strapped for cash. I think there's no doubt that there
is some fat within our health budget and those cuts
are being made.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It sort of started under the labor government in terms
of centralizing and getting rid of all the DHBs, and
it's continued under the current government. I think what has
happened though, is that there's still lots of pockets that
need to be dealt with. But every time that there's
some sort of cut made, surprisingly the labor opposition has
some sort of you know, loss of memory and forget
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that they were the ones that could cut started this
efficiency process, and so we end up in a political
fight rather than actually having a rational discussion about moving
some of that money out of say some I've got
to say some it support or communication stuff. Somebody's going
to message me about having a go at them, but
into nurses, which I think is where Luke wants them
to be.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Like most of us, four three hundred planned surgeries and
specialist appointments to be rescheduled. That's the problem. I mean,
is there another way that they could make their point
without striking I guess is the question that probably the
health monster would love to know as well. Bridget Well.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think we would all love them to be able
to do that, but there is pretty limited a belief
for them to make their point. They are in a negotiation.
This is the sort of biggest tactic that they have.
The question I suppose is is when those appointments, when
people get those calls to say, hey, your surgery that
you've been waiting six months for a year four is
being rescheduled again, are they going to blame the nurses
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or are they going.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
To blame the government? Who will they blame? Blame the government?
I think the government's got together. I think that you
know this, over next ten years, nursing, police, all front
line starts. That's where the budget starts, and then cut
down below.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I do sometimes wander and this is no comment on
the nurses and they strike at all. But we hear
so many negative headlines around health and New Zealand, and
yet when I've spoken to people about who've had the
procedure they've been waiting for and all that sort of
those sorts of issues, when people are actually getting I
was going to say, dealt too, dealt with by the
(24:24):
health system. I think it's worth reminding people that we
actually do have a pretty amazing We do have an
amazing health system in terms of the care that you
receive from the individuals who work in it. And do
you wonder I mean, I do wonder if we catastrophize
because every health system you look at England, Bridget, they
have the headlines about people heading elsewhere. You look at Australia,
they're complaining about nurses. Everyone seems to be moving on.
(24:46):
We seem to be short, full stop anything. In response
to those sentiments.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Once again, can we solve the health sector in thirty seconds?
No Ah, I've couldn't put the two hard basket along
with what do we do about Trump?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yes? By the way, Luke, I just have to let
you know I have I did google mayor of Ponsonby
and one two, three four. No Wayne Brown, Wayne Brown,
Wayne Brown, Wayne Brown, no mention of you, no mention
of look anyone who can find go. I'll type Luke
and see if it gives me the Dello go the
dark web. Oh yeah, work computer, perfect place to do it. Hey,
(25:24):
we're going to be back in just a moment. We're
with Luke Dello and Bridget Morton. I'm Tim Beverage. This
is the panel on the Weekend Collective. It is twenty
two minutes to four and welcome back to the week
(25:48):
Can Collective. This is the panel with Luke Dallo and
Bridget Morton. I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome back. Now, just a
couple of texts and feedback just for you, Luke. The
first one's a bit harsh. It's about Santa Slat, says
Luke's no genius is he? If he really wanted Smith
and Coey Santa Slag, wouldn't he shut up about it?
Go in under the radar to get it for a
low price and a lot of text act you're saying, Look,
(26:09):
the Smith and Kerry auction for the lot in question
includes the sleigh among all the other elements used to
create the center display and the enchanted for us, all
the pieces are in one single lot, so you just
can't buy the sleigh in isolation. So okay, would you
be in for the sleigh there? Bridget No, next.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Question looks I'm not going to compete against Luke for it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah. Good, there's one you've knocked out there, Luke. Now, look,
I did wonder when we were going to see a
complaint about this ad, so Lotto's Powerball ad which features
a naked skier, which is top the advertising authorities complaint list,
And look, it didn't bother me. I was just surprised
to see you know this guy skiing through this it
(26:56):
looks like this through the trees in Japan, and what
looks like to be a very thoroughly photoshopped bottom as
he sort of throws his knees in the air and
carries on skiing. Luke, you've seen the ad. Assume I
have seen that, and I mean, I don't want to
be offended. But but they ever all say, I don't
know your six year old's watching the news, and and
(27:17):
why is that man naked?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Daddy? Oh, I think it's a load of fun, and
it's a perky little bottom too, and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well after they photoshopped it, because you can't tell me
they haven't gone through every square millimeter of that bottom
and got rid of anything that might make it look
revolt remotely.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Male, every little bit pimple. I think it's just cheek.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's harmless, and it's a harmless add isn't it. And
all those Karen's out there clutching their pearls, relax, and
I think this has when New Zealand's.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Got a little bit too far. Just enjoy a bit
of bent, enjoy a bit of fun, and just you're.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All with it. Oho, kys, would you go steing naked
if you won lotto.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
No, but I think look except it, right, I mean,
it's a great country when the thing that people have
got to complain about is the fact that there's a
naked bottom on a TV ad, Like, let's be speak
grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Really, I'd like to see the pre edited version just
to see.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
How much Wait what why would you want to see?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
No, I just want to of course. I'm convinced that
they have used every bit of contrast and look, just
cleaning up every bit so everything looks as as unoffensive
as possible. Inoffensive. Sorry, that interesting with it's AI?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Though?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Was that maybe it's AI? Because I'd be probably cold
up there, criky. Well, they don't do a full frontal
I mean that would be that would probably be right
for a complaint, wouldn't it. Anyway, I don't know what
else to do with that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Have you ever?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Have you ever seen an ad that you have thought
was beyond the pale? You guys Bridge, I'll go with
you first.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Ones that definitely gone. I don't want to buy from
that company. And I think sometimes this is where advertising
standards authority has gone a little bit too far, Like
you know, the other week, we had that ad from
the warehouse that was calling out sort of girl math,
and I was like, oh, like, this is an awful ad.
The warehouse needs to do better. But what it tells
me is like I don't want to buy from that
company as opposed to that this is offensive. And I
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just think sometimes that we kind of go overwrought about that.
I think there's some definite things that we don't want,
particularly during when kids are watching television are more likely
watching television. But I think for the most part, stuff
like this really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I wonder if anyone who complained about the ad has
boycotted lotto tickets, because it would take a lot for
me to boycott the lotto ticket, are you guys? Lotto ticket?
Lotto bars ah.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Sometimes my dad and I go halves in the ticket.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Anything over ten miler, I'll give it a craig fair enough, well,
good luck not that much, good Luckuzobbie and the next
Obbi and for it as well. So if you want
it anyway, Hey, look this other one a bit around
the money side of things. A Dinah who was charged
two hundred and fifty dollars for canceling a table booking
(29:54):
I think it's pronounced who am I who ami hu Ami.
So an aucklander booked lunch for five people, fell sick,
canceled in the booking in a phone call to the restaurant,
and then found that their credit card a being deducted
two hundred and fifty bucks fifty dollars per diner. I
guess it doesn't feel like a great bit of good
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pr doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Terrible publicity by sky City or the I think it
was in sky City, the place with yeh does Yeah. Hey,
look we charge a bond of twenty dollars per person
for booking up over ten and look, if you cancel
on the day, will consider, but we give it back.
But what this is designed to do is over Christmas,
corporates book four or five restaurants for twenty to twenty
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five people, and on the day they decide which restaurant
they want to go to, so then they cancel four.
And that's where really I know it's so wrong out there,
and that's what happens. It does happen out there.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So it's a sunny day, they'll be out sun for
the rainy now they'll be in a cozier restaurant So
what do you make of it, Bridget? Because look as
look we're saying that they have a bond for his
new restaurant and Ponsonby Road, I should give the name
Jiji by the way, loose it. But I don't know.
I don't know what I think about this. I sort
of think, well, it's not great pr but then again,
(31:10):
if you sign up to it and you don't read
the small print, I'm not sure where I'm at with
this one. Bridget.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, well I just learned that, you know, to book
the Christmas party this year, I should be booking somewhere
that was Wellington a good day and some day it's
for raining. I didn't know that Corporus were doing that.
That is quite outrageous, and I do think there's a
lot of people that don't respect how much, you know,
restaurants in a hospitality sector invest, and if you don't
fill that space that you are, you know, they're losing
(31:35):
a lot of money. And fifty dollars a year doesn't
cover what they would have actually probably you know, spent,
had they actually been there and sat down. So I
do have a lot of sympathy for this. I think
if it's really made clear you know when you book,
and I think of like my heirdresser who's really popular.
It's really clear when I book that if I know
cancel with then I think it's forty eight hours or
something that I'll be charged for it. And I'm totally
(31:57):
comfortable for that because there is lost money that's not
going into their back pocket, particularly on like a sad
day or one of those busy sessions. So I think
people need to be as long as it's made clear,
then you know the risk is yours for the taking.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I think as well, given what you were talking about,
whether I imagine a restaurant like Kuami, maybe they do
get a lot of people booking and just not showing
and they've just said, Okay, we're going to stick with this.
So a seat's a seat, which is money, right, Yeah,
and that's where they're coming from.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
But you've got to mix it. I mean, for five people,
I wouldn't worry about it. For over ten people, yes,
I would worry about it. That takes a bagel percentage
of your seats.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
How do you actually do it as a restaurant tour
When people ring up to book, is there a conversation
that happens over the phone or is it online where
it's a conversation over the phone, So anything over ten
we just say, look, there's a deposit per person, pay here,
will confirme, you will confirm and do do people ever
balk at that? Or is they just sort of assume? Yeah,
(32:53):
of course it's GESI. It's the mere Bonsen beds.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's a sort of hat seat. Yes, it's you know,
look at the people lining up together.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Hey. By the way, I have been constantly googling mayor
of Pons and B and I'm down to page I'm
onto page four or five of my Google search. I'm
still yet to come up with Luke Dalay's name. We better,
I'm gonna have to start putting in Luke Dallo miya
PONSONB just so we can create some content for the s.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
That is d A L l O W, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, Yes, I think I've got that right. Anyway, By
the way, he's the one of the new owners of
Gigi and Pons and B. You should pop along. I
always like to get people a bit of a plug
when they take the time to come on my shade.
So good on you, Luke. Than anyway, you haven't got
a restaurant. Have you a Bridget that I'm missing out?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, No, just a law firm, okay, right, which which
I have to say sometimes we do ask for fees
in advance, we held in our trust account, which is
not that different in some ways.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, actually, yeah, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Good
on you? Right, We're gonna have another cup of teen
to light and we'll be back in just a moment's
ten minutes to four News Talk, said b I almost
(34:15):
don't want to come in on top of that. A
little bit of music there, but nevertheless, welcome back to
the panel. I'm Tim Beverage of Bridget Morton and Lukedllo
my guests, Lucky. Last topic, Well, it's the All Blacks
in France tonight, the second test to gets France. We
were supposed to take them apart last week, but we didn't.
I'm struggling to you get excited about rugby at the moment, Luke,
(34:38):
where are you at with the All Blacks and the
upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'll be honest with you, they just don't do it
for me anymore. I'll be honest with they just don't
do it for me anymore. They're just I used to
take time off to watch the All Blacks. I don't
do that anymore. I'd rather wrotch other sports that are
up and coming, like the under nineteens, the basketball team
that came forth in the world. I got up and
watch theme that was fantastic, and I just think they're
(35:01):
I don't know, I'm just they've lost his shine for me?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
What Bridget, what do you think is is that something
that you resonate with her? Are you going to be
along to the stadium tonight and with bells on?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, I'm not at the box.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I'm not at the stadium tonight. Maybe if someone will
give me a corporate box to keep away from this
fear or cold weather, I might have been to.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Keep away from the riff raft.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well, I'm on this show, aren't I? So I'm clearly not.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Okay, Yeah, but yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I haven't had a big interest was saying that All
Backs for a long time. But I mean the Black
Funds though, because I mean they're all playing also playing
this afternoon, I think they are way more exciting. I
think that's absolutely what lookes because we've actually got way
more options now for what sport we can see what
we can see live. You know, you wouldn't had Woman's
Rugby broadcast before, so that's way more. I think I'm
(35:55):
going to go home and watch that while doing some island.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's funny. I'm going to be a little bit flip
floppy on this because I do look forward to the
Northern Hemisphere to I love it when we head north
and we take on Funnily enough, we take on France
for France, AI guess, but well, you know, we take
on a variety of nations depending on what year it is.
And I'm actually quite interested in seeing the Wallabies and
the Lines series, but yeah, I'm not sure. It just
(36:19):
takes me a while to warm up. But I do
wonder if part of the problem is that there are
so many sport offerings where you can really immerse yourself
into the personalities behind it, and it still feels that
we're dealing with all blacks pr from nineteen ninety three
or something, whereas you know with Netflix, with the f one,
(36:39):
you get this window into the drivers and all the personalities.
There's a Tour de France version of where that you
get to. We get to there just doesn't seem to
be that that sort of access which really makes us
feel that we own them. Is it Fairbridge or do
you think I'm a little bit harsh?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right that we want
to see that kind of behind the scenes and get
to know them as people. So just having those sort
of stand ups and the sort of you know, a
little bit of inside and their training sessions doesn't actually
provide people with that feeling of being part of the
community or knowing people. Knowing the players about who they
are rather than just how they kick.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Still be interesting. See what happened. I mean, I think
we are probably going to take the frogs apart this time,
aren't we.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
We're definitely to take the frogs apart.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Frogs these days? Is are still politically correct bluing like
that when you when the economy wins, right, that's right there. Anyway, Hey,
thanks so much for your time, Bridget Morton and Luke Dello,
and we'll look forward to you opening your restrong Bridget,
so we can give that a plague as well, and
Luke great to having on the show mate. Thank you,
(37:42):
and people can keep googling Mayor of Ponsonby to see
if anyone can track down Luke Dello have been referred
to that at least once. Anyway, Hey, thanks guys, we'll
look forward to your company again. Next hour on the
Wondroufradio show, Brad Olsen's with us, This is news Talk,
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, and in no particular order. She's down the line
actually in Wellington. She's a political commentator. She's a podcaster,
host of the Three Girls, One Beehive podcast. She's a
former advisor for the previous National government. Looks Where hasn't
she been? It is Bridget Morton? Get a Bridget?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How you going afternoon?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am well, you know, just another gray winter Wellington day.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Really Oh you're giving up the big cell anyway? Nice
Nice to hear your voice and joining me here in
the studio. He's a hospitality veteran, restaurateur, realer, state agent. Again,
where hasn't he been? Is Luke Dela? Get a Luke
going good?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Thanks to him? Very good. I've been very busy. Actually,
I have you look at the Smith and Coey's auctions
that's on Monday, so there auction off al all the
sort of all the goods memorabilia. You could say, oh really, okay,
that's interesting. I'm going for Santa Sleigh forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Seriously, they're auctioning off. They've got a sleigh there for
Santa Slay forty thousand. Where are you going to stick it?
If you win it, sell of them will beat me
at forty five? Probably forty. Are they saying expected price.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Forty grand first bid, opening bid.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Opening bird. Well, I think you should sit on it
and wait till they have to drop it a bit,
because they might not get anyone at forty, So don't
jump in there. They might go, okay, we're taking five
bucks and then you're away. I'm sure you know more
about these things. And I actually, by the way, kind
of just that's nice to be back in the studio.
I've I've been away taken about ten days skiing down
(01:46):
the Mackenzie Country, which was just fantastic, the smaller ski
fields like Dobson o How and Round Hill where we
just we were so lucky and gosh, it was good.
It's always good to get away you a bit of
a skier.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Look, I do love a ski. I do love a
ski and it's good to see you've got your top
lip nice of water too, Bridget.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You can't see this, but I grow a beard when
I go skiing, and the night before we woke up
for the last day, I said good night to my
daughters and I went and shaved everything but the mustache.
So I'm looking a little bit biggles. So I promised
not to walk past Sandy Hodge, our news reader while
she's doing the news, because she's getting the giggles. So look,
(02:28):
I'm not sure whether I should be posting a photo
of it anywhere. Maybe, but what do you think, Luke?
Shall I keep it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Keep it? It looks good? Do the handlebars so you
look like a traffic cop.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I actually did start that way. Then I thought, not
too much. It's a little bit too might need some
here diye on it too, by the way, but to
nineteen I did the handlebars and it's a little bit
too dodgy movie nineteen seventies. So anyway, hey, right, let's
get into it. Let's get into the politics. We'll start
with you, bridget So. I don't know how seriously to
(02:58):
take these new poles, but New Zealand first ahead that
I've had a great pole with the Taxpayer's Union's pole.
New Zealand first on the cusp of double digits. Winston
Winston and his Party ahead of Act, they've jumped three
point sent percentage points. I mean, Winston doesn't like to
talk about poles, does he, But he might like this one,
Wouldnty Bridget? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
For him where he doesn't have an electriacy to rely
on anything above that five percent, three shold as a winner.
So the further he gets away from the five percent,
he's going to take some confidence from that. I am
the same as you, though, I think these poles are
too close at the moment to really take much from them.
And ultimately the end of the day, we've got National
Act and New Zealand first looking pretty stable as a government.
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They've still got a pathway to beauty the government, you know,
the other side, it's looking a bit shaky whether or
not they'd be able to form a government. So until
they kind of get that sorted out, it's not really
a two horse race.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What do you reckon, Luke? You know you're excited by
the pole, not excited cynical.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I think it's fantastic that Shane Jones and Winston Peters
are bumped up in the poles because what they're doing
is that it's a no nonsense approach that I think
kibis want to see and hear. I think they're getting
the trust of New Zealanders, I think, I think, and
that's where I see it, and the country needs it
right now. There's no strong, sort of strong politics at
(04:15):
the moment, you know, like relocate the lizards and employ people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh the lizards. Do you think that's something in that
bridget Is that Shane Jones and Winston they seem to
have the sort of the ground covered where they can
just shoot from say what they're thinking. You've got Shane
coming with the big hot takes all the time. Is
that something that's sort of resonating with voters? Do you think?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I think so, particularly in an era where we have
a lot of focus grouped political communication. You know, we
get a lot of you know, what should be said
and that sort of thing, and Shane Jones doesn't focus
group you anything. It just comes straight out, and I
think I think people just really enjoy actually that sort
of cutting through. I mean, you can't overreage it though,
because we're still talking about pushing double digits, they're still
below ten percent. That's not a mainstream view, but there's
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definitely people that that is what they want to hear
from their politicians, just straight what they're thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What about I mean, do you think that that luxem
wire taking anything positive from this bridget? But even though
their numbers are not particularly doing anything flash, but his
main thing is he wants to be in government. I
guess next time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, absolutely. And you always look at the trends with Poles,
and they are consistently There's been a couple this year
where they've fallen behind labor, but for the most part
they have sat consistently above labor. And I still go
back to the part that he's got a pretty stable government.
There's not really a stable government on the other side
to really compete with that. So until that becomes a
realistic proposition, he doesn't really have to concern himself too
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much about how low it's going computed to labor.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But according to a Pole, we had it a little
while ago. I can't remember who it was, so I
think it was one news They got all in a
lather over the fact that it could be a change
of government and we're talking about maybe they haven't got
their ducks lined up the bridget, But I mean, does
it really matter for the voters. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Look I don't think any voters, particularly at this point
in the electoral cycle, look at a pole and think, yeah,
that makes a difference to how I'm going to vote. Really,
reason where poles kind of cut through is closer to
the election, and you look at some of those miners
and you might say, vote for somebody that doesn't look
like they're going to get over that five percent threshold
because you really want them to still be in government,
or you might give them an electorate seat vote. You know,
(06:18):
that's where it changes. But for the most part, this
is just noise.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, look, do you look at any particular pole
with more affection than another one? I mean, because there
seem to be so many. I can't keep up with them.
Take a couple of weeks off and I go, oh,
what's this one of one of many?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I don't try. I don't. I'm not that I don't
trust poles. I just take no notice of poles. I
mean I listened to people on the street. That's your
true pole, right, and at the polling booths, right, that's
what a true pole is. Sound like Winston Peters.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Now, Actually, funny thing is I think if you stood
for politics and you were in my electorate. I think
i'd give I'd look at giving you a nod, thank
you very much. Yeah, I don't know why I say that.
It seems like a pointless thing. Have you ever thought
of standing for politics?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Look? I have, actually I dried well, I gave it
a go. I wanted to do it, go meyalty a
couple of years go. Yeah, I'm still young though, plenty
of time.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, you're dabbled in politics. Have you ever thought
of being on the hustings yourself?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Bridget a little bit? But I think the more time
I spend around politics, I realize how hard the gig is.
I think people think that they're sort of sitting around,
you know, earning the big bucks, but it's really not.
That's not the reality. It's a really hard, stressful job.
And yeah, as I said, the more time I spend
around it, the less attractive it becomes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Hey, which poll, by the way, what's the one we
all look for a particular pole to go, oh, yeah,
we like this one? So this is the taxpayer union
curier pole? Is there a pole that Bridget Morton goes, Oh,
this is the one I've been looking forward to. What's
it going to say?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, never, because a we just don't actually have consistent
polling in the way we used to. So when I
went in Australian politics, you'd have a poll every week
and you can really measure those trends and you can
really kind of do it and reactive to what was
happening that week. We just don't have that money here
in the New Zealand political or media sector to fund
to that type of insight. As I say, it's mostly
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noise when the poles come out.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Now, by the way, a thousand people polled via landline
and mobile phone. Margin of era of plus or minus
three point one percent. And despite the fact I've discussed
this with polsters before, I still don't think I've quite
got a handle on the margin of era. But anyway,
there we go, Luke.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
If you got a favorite Poles, I don't have a
favorite pole. Okay, people of the streets they do called
me the mirror of Ponsby by the way, do that, earl?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Do they really?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Do they actually call you? Can I google that one
hundred everyone? I haven't got time to do it right now,
but if somebody is listening, can you google mirror of
Pons and b don't put in Luke Dala, just see
what it spits out. Could be eaaten like an interesting surprise. Anyway,
let's move on from Poles. There always been of fun,
they aren't they now. I missed some some of the
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coverage around this during the course of the week, so
I'll be honest with you, I did tune out from
the news. But the question around this COVID response inquiry,
the raw commission they're going to be which is looking
into the government's response. They're concentrating on the impact of
it extended lockdown and also vaccine mandates and safety. But
there's also been the question around whether Jacinda Adurn is
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going to give evidence. And look, I wouldn't be voting
and didn't vote for Gesindra I doing as Prime minister,
and I've got I could offer a lot of criticisms,
but there does seem to be amongst some people bridget
this sort of salivating it, sort of putting someone in
the stocks, and I'm frankly, I'm just not interested. I mean,
if she's going to give evidence, fine, but is there
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a bit too much lathering going on around this issue?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think so, And I do think that we need
to sort of not give a dinner break, because obviously
she is responsible for her actions. But ultimately, when it
comes upore the Royal Commission, it's not like the commissioners
are going to you know, American style litigation, you know,
drag her across every single decision she made. They're going
to be asking questions and asking for evidence about what
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led to the decisions they made, and what resources they
had and what all those kind of things to inform
actually a response. So I don't think even if she
does appear, and it does look like she might, now
I don't think people are going to get what they
want anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you reckon? Look, I think if they're ass
they should turn up, you know, should turn up and say,
well she says she will yeah, which is great but
plain and simple.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I honestly not really cares anymore. I think it's past.
You know, the bloods and the blood's on the ground,
scars remain, life moves on. What are they already going
to get out of it? Not a lot, not a
lot of all. Don't think, you know, I think there's
just more people on the gravy train trying to make
money out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think, I mean we all have. We all have opinions.
Everyone who's listening will have an opinion about something that
stands out to them from that particular period of time.
But I did take a moment to think the other
day because so there's a chat that was it a
chat with Kerry Woodaman and Chris Hipkins, which seem to
you know, be there bit at loggerheads. But I thought
to myself, actually, it's very easy for us to sit
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and by the way, the personal stake I have in
this and is that my mum died at the end
of the first lockdown and we had we had some
very difficult times to navigate. So you know, if anyone
has an extra grind, I think I could include myself
in there. But I also can sit back and think,
you know what, it was never times we'd never seen before,
and everyone's suddenly so wise in hindsight. And I think
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you're right Bridget that you know the Commission's going to
be more circumspect about things. And I think what you
touched on is that all we want to know is
what was the advice and how was it responded to?
Among other things? Is that going to be the biggest
thing for you?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Look or what. That's the biggest thing for me is
what the advice and what did they do with that
advice and where they went against that advice. That's that's
where I see it, and I think we just need
to move on. And God, it's just dragging on, isn't
it five years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How close are you following bridget recently?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I do think there is some people that do
need to be able to have their say, and I
do think that's why it's important that we have had
this second part of the inquiry and that sort of
Chris Hipkins interview you know you've responded to before where
he sort of called you know, a whole sit of
conspiracy theorists and not the mainstream. All this kind of
retoric came back up again, and I think for me
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that is the thing that is the most scarring that
is out of that COVID period is just that polarization
and how we had people that you were either in
the teen or you were completely and utterly should be
ostracized and you know, throwing down the back. And I
just didn't like that continuation of that rhetoric out of
Chris Sipkins. As someone who wants to put himself up
as a future prime minister, because it sounds to me
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like he hasn't learned any lessons from that twenty twenty
three kind of period where you know, the public told
him right pretty strongly, you haven't listened to us, particularly
in Auckland, and we're going to punish you for them.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Luke, anything to add before?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
We have nothing to add to that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Put that one to bed, gave a cup of tea
and lie down and come back after the break. Okay,
this is the panel on the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beverage.
Were with Luke Morton. Sorry, I just got suddenly Britchip
Morton and Luke Dalay. What did I do there? I
sort of made your cousins or something. Ah, back in
just a moment. It's twenty two past three, Newstalks. He'd
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be yes, welcome back twenty five and a half past
three on Tim Beverage. This is the week In Collective
panel on my panelists Bridget Morton and Luke Dello. Guys,
I cannot In preparing for the show, I did a
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bit reading about the Trump Trump tariffs, and there's more
tariffs on the way. There's tariffs coming from Brazil because
he doesn't like the prosecution of Bolsonaro, and there's Japan
and Canada everyone. I can't keep up with the tariff news.
So I'm gonna ask you, Bridget, can you explain it
to us?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In thirty seconds, I can explain everything going on in
Trump's mind.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Great hearing those people brace your sulf Highlights package, Bridget
Moreton and thirty seconds Trump tariffs go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I do have to say the underlying thing. And I
actually stolen this. I went to an A and Z
geopolitical expert, which a good job. You just well, I mean,
you just travel the world talking about politics and what's happening.
I mean that sounds pretty dreamy to me. But what
he was saying is basically what you see is a
breakdown of what was the pact that USA used to
have with the world, which is you buy all of
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our stuff and we'll look after you from a security
point of view. Now nobody's buying any of this stuff,
so the renegotiating, so you can just see through Trump's
mind what he's basically doing is going well, and you're
not buying us stuff anymore, but you still want us
to be the leaders of the free world and protect
you all and put all that leadership up. We'll actually
know you've got to pay for that benefit, and we're
going to make you do it through terriffs. I just
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don't know when Trump's voters though, we're going to click
to the fact that they the consumers, are going to
pay the cost.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't know if we've got
where's it all going to settle? Is the question, Luke,
what do you think wens when's it gonna When are
we actually gonna know what tariffs a where and who
an hour and how much.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
It's probably gonna settle when Trump's out right, that's why
it's gonna sit. Right, That's when it's gonna settle. But hey,
love will like him. He is the prison in the
United States, not the prison of the world. And he
is putting his country first. And that's a big thing
I read into this, And he's putting well and that
if you're.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
A consumer and you're paying truckloads more because he's tariff
the be Jesus out of everything. Part of my French, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But he's trying to get that manufacturing arm going in
American You know this, you know get the consumers to
spend more within the American products, and I think that's
where it's at. I think he's showing leadership, but not diplomacy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, bridget Oh, I think you're right. He's actually
just going in America first, this is how I try
and protect and grow that manufacturing sector. And he knows
that also. That's who voted for him, is are those
people that used to build the cars and make the
tires and all those big factories in rural and regional USA.
They are the ones that want him to save them,
and this is how he's saying they're going to save them.
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The problem is is that everything tells us about experience
and economics is that it's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The one that I really have a bit of disquiet
about and nothing surprises me about him because he is
who he is. Is this, you know, the fifty percent
tariff he's going to impose on Brazil because he isn't
like the fact that Jaya Belsonaro is being prosecuted, and that,
to me, I mean, that's just it's I mean, it's
Banana Republic sort of stuff, isn't, Luke.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's about personalism. Person, it's a sniper shot rather than
a shotgun's not a shot, you know. So, and you
know the only thing is really going to go up
as coffee beans, right, No? Not?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The only thing was in the number of thongs. Do
we actually I'm not sure Brazil is actually. I mean,
they might be the home of the thong, but do
they export them?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Not a lot of them, not much of them.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
My favorite, my favorite headlines from the week were he
referred to the Premier of Japan primeister of Japan. I've
got it wrong myself, actually, Shigeru Sheba as mister Japan
because he forgot his name, and he come and he
praised the head of Liberia for his excellent English when
English was actually this guy's main language. I guess you
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can't get it all right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But he is a simple man, isn't he simple? Did
he call them librarians as well Liberians?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't know, Actually, what is the name. I'm not
prim Libyans.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I would have thought Libyans.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, No, that's Libya Libraria. Yeah, Liberia. No, there would
be Liberians, wouldn't they Yeah, but not.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, it sounds like they're giving us books.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, well, in which case you shouldn't have been surprised
he has such good England. Anyway, Ah, there we go.
That's Trump out of the way for this week. Hopefully,
Now the UK and France the illegal immigration to the
UK via the small boats that they're going to be
sent back to France as part of a deal. The
government hopes to make a dent in the number of
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people crossing the channel illegally. Look, it's complex, isn't it.
I think this is going to be an ongoing issue
forever and ever, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Bridget Oh, absolutely, And I think often down here at
the bottom of the world, with this giant ocean surrounding us,
it's easy for us to cast criticisms of immigration policies
across Europe, But DA have a really difficult job about
managing who can come in, how they come in, to
make sure that they can support those people and actually,
you know whether or not therese jobs to them. Yeah,
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I'm very loth to kind of sort of make assertions
about what they should and shouldn't be doing when we
actually just have the privilege here where it's really hard
to actually illegally come to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Actually that is.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
One of the things I think it's almost difficult for
New Zealand. New Zealanders to understand, luke the challenges that
any country has, and I'm including America in the United
States with the legal border crossings and clamping down of that,
because we just don't have that easy gateway to illegal
immigrants to make their way here. So we're a little
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bit smug about it all, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You're pretty pretty coind of walled about it, aren't we
know we're protected by it. The only experience I had
was on which I was in London. The Algerians were
coming through France into London. There was a massive problem there.
But to be honest, I rather look at the spith
of Cooey's auction list.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Excuse me, is that you saying, Tim, I do not
like this topic you've chosen, heir? Can we talk about
how much I'm going to pay for Santa Slay? That's it.
We can put that out there on text, by the way,
you can text on nine two nine two. Apparently the
Smith and Coey's Santa Slay is up for auction and
they reckon a starting bit of forty thousand dollars. I
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reckon to quoite the castle, tell him he's dreaming.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I reckon if it goes for above forty thousand, that
actually the economy is doing really well, and that we
shouldn't listen to the CPI numbers anymore, because clearly, if
somebody's got their money to spend on a sleigh, they've
we've clearly got some money swimming around somewhere to Papa. Oh, oh,
I know, I don't think they've got any money either.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was going to make a very mischievous comment about
whether Papa would be interested in such an object and
why they would or wouldn't be, But I might leave
that alone. But that news in the industry. I think
that if you bought it, though, Luke, you'd be able
to say a little bit like the cast You to say,
look where do we put the sound a sleigh? Dad?
You say, look, park it behind the tarana, just in
front of the hold and whatever the quator's from. The
castle could be my mariltary slay on Ponsby Road, the
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mat slaves there. We can hands up anyone who googled
mayor Ponsonby to see whether Luke Dello featured in that
Google search. Now, this next one, the nurses striking during
to being understaffed. I can't help but feel that it's
compounding an issue with them the number of procedures that
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are going to be canceled as a result. So more
than thirty six thousand nurses are striking at the end
of the month for what they say as a failure
by Health NEWSIM to address their staffing issues. Again, you're
closer to the action politically, perhaps, Bridget. But I mean,
even if I'm not sure we could get the staff
forgetting what the money is, are there that many nurses
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available to suddenly bolster the workforce.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think that's one of the issues that we've had,
particularly since COVID is actually a workforce issue and keeping
people in the workforce. I think there is a bit
of inflation between sort of what's called safe staffing levels,
which is basically set by the unions about what they
think as the safe staffing levels, which differs in this
aspect to what Health New Zealand things. I have no idea, frankly,
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what is a safe staffing level, but those kind of
conflate together about how many people are actually on the
ward because that depends obviously how difficult a nurse's job
is from a day to day basis. Frankly, I think
this is mostly to do with pay, and if you
look at what they're offering, it is pretty low. It's
three percent over two years. But maybe that reflects what
our fischool situation is at the moment.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Luke, I mean, I stand with our frontline workers, all
frontline workers, I think, and I say staffing as an
a luxury is a necessity, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And I'd love to get my teeth into the hospital
budgets and really get into the budgets to see with
the fat is because there must be some fat and
they're going to some fat dogs, you know, these these
you know, I'm not saying the nurses are. I'm just
saying they should get all the money or the lion's
share of it, because we're going to lose them overseas,
right and we can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Ah Well, I feel that we are we strapped for cash,
Bridget we.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Must be in New Zealand and the government absolutely we're
strapped for cash. I think there's no doubt that there
is some fat within our health budget and those cuts
are being made.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It sort of started under the labor government in terms
of centralizing and getting rid of all the DHBs, and
it's continued under the current government. I think what has
happened though, is that there's still lots of pockets that
need to be dealt with. But every time that there's
some sort of cut made, surprisingly the labor opposition has
some sort of you know, loss of memory and forget
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that they were the ones that could cut started this
efficiency process, and so we end up in a political
fight rather than actually having a rational discussion about moving
some of that money out of say some I've got
to say some it support or communication stuff. Somebody's going
to message me about having a go at them, but
into nurses, which I think is where Luke wants them
to be.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Like most of us, four three hundred planned surgeries and
specialist appointments to be rescheduled. That's the problem. I mean,
is there another way that they could make their point
without striking I guess is the question that probably the
health monster would love to know as well. Bridget Well.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think we would all love them to be able
to do that, but there is pretty limited a belief
for them to make their point. They are in a negotiation.
This is the sort of biggest tactic that they have.
The question I suppose is is when those appointments, when
people get those calls to say, hey, your surgery that
you've been waiting six months for a year four is
being rescheduled again, are they going to blame the nurses
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or are they going.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
To blame the government? Who will they blame? Blame the government?
I think the government's got together. I think that you
know this, over next ten years, nursing, police, all front
line starts. That's where the budget starts, and then cut
down below.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I do sometimes wander and this is no comment on
the nurses and they strike at all. But we hear
so many negative headlines around health and New Zealand, and
yet when I've spoken to people about who've had the
procedure they've been waiting for and all that sort of
those sorts of issues, when people are actually getting I
was going to say, dealt too, dealt with by the
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health system. I think it's worth reminding people that we
actually do have a pretty amazing We do have an
amazing health system in terms of the care that you
receive from the individuals who work in it. And do
you wonder I mean, I do wonder if we catastrophize
because every health system you look at England, Bridget, they
have the headlines about people heading elsewhere. You look at Australia,
they're complaining about nurses. Everyone seems to be moving on.
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We seem to be short, full stop anything. In response
to those sentiments.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Once again, can we solve the health sector in thirty seconds?
No Ah, I've couldn't put the two hard basket along
with what do we do about Trump?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yes? By the way, Luke, I just have to let
you know I have I did google mayor of Ponsonby
and one two, three four. No Wayne Brown, Wayne Brown,
Wayne Brown, Wayne Brown, no mention of you, no mention
of look anyone who can find go. I'll type Luke
and see if it gives me the Dello go the
dark web. Oh yeah, work computer, perfect place to do it. Hey,
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we're going to be back in just a moment. We're
with Luke Dello and Bridget Morton. I'm Tim Beverage. This
is the panel on the Weekend Collective. It is twenty
two minutes to four and welcome back to the week
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Can Collective. This is the panel with Luke Dallo and
Bridget Morton. I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome back. Now, just a
couple of texts and feedback just for you, Luke. The
first one's a bit harsh. It's about Santa Slat, says
Luke's no genius is he? If he really wanted Smith
and Coey Santa Slag, wouldn't he shut up about it?
Go in under the radar to get it for a
low price and a lot of text act you're saying, Look,
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the Smith and Kerry auction for the lot in question
includes the sleigh among all the other elements used to
create the center display and the enchanted for us, all
the pieces are in one single lot, so you just
can't buy the sleigh in isolation. So okay, would you
be in for the sleigh there? Bridget No, next.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Question looks I'm not going to compete against Luke for it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah. Good, there's one you've knocked out there, Luke. Now, look,
I did wonder when we were going to see a
complaint about this ad, so Lotto's Powerball ad which features
a naked skier, which is top the advertising authorities complaint list,
And look, it didn't bother me. I was just surprised
to see you know this guy skiing through this it
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looks like this through the trees in Japan, and what
looks like to be a very thoroughly photoshopped bottom as
he sort of throws his knees in the air and
carries on skiing. Luke, you've seen the ad. Assume I
have seen that, and I mean, I don't want to
be offended. But but they ever all say, I don't
know your six year old's watching the news, and and
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why is that man naked?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Daddy? Oh, I think it's a load of fun, and
it's a perky little bottom too, and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well after they photoshopped it, because you can't tell me
they haven't gone through every square millimeter of that bottom
and got rid of anything that might make it look
revolt remotely.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Male, every little bit pimple. I think it's just cheek.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's harmless, and it's a harmless add isn't it. And
all those Karen's out there clutching their pearls, relax, and
I think this has when New Zealand's.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Got a little bit too far. Just enjoy a bit
of bent, enjoy a bit of fun, and just you're.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All with it. Oho, kys, would you go steing naked
if you won lotto.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
No, but I think look except it, right, I mean,
it's a great country when the thing that people have
got to complain about is the fact that there's a
naked bottom on a TV ad, Like, let's be speak
grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Really, I'd like to see the pre edited version just
to see.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
How much Wait what why would you want to see?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
No, I just want to of course. I'm convinced that
they have used every bit of contrast and look, just
cleaning up every bit so everything looks as as unoffensive
as possible. Inoffensive. Sorry, that interesting with it's AI?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Though?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Was that maybe it's AI? Because I'd be probably cold
up there, criky. Well, they don't do a full frontal
I mean that would be that would probably be right
for a complaint, wouldn't it. Anyway, I don't know what
else to do with that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Have you ever?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Have you ever seen an ad that you have thought
was beyond the pale? You guys Bridge, I'll go with
you first.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Ones that definitely gone. I don't want to buy from
that company. And I think sometimes this is where advertising
standards authority has gone a little bit too far, Like
you know, the other week, we had that ad from
the warehouse that was calling out sort of girl math,
and I was like, oh, like, this is an awful ad.
The warehouse needs to do better. But what it tells
me is like I don't want to buy from that
company as opposed to that this is offensive. And I
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just think sometimes that we kind of go overwrought about that.
I think there's some definite things that we don't want,
particularly during when kids are watching television are more likely
watching television. But I think for the most part, stuff
like this really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I wonder if anyone who complained about the ad has
boycotted lotto tickets, because it would take a lot for
me to boycott the lotto ticket, are you guys? Lotto ticket?
Lotto bars ah.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Sometimes my dad and I go halves in the ticket.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Anything over ten miler, I'll give it a craig fair enough, well,
good luck not that much, good Luckuzobbie and the next
Obbi and for it as well. So if you want
it anyway, Hey, look this other one a bit around
the money side of things. A Dinah who was charged
two hundred and fifty dollars for canceling a table booking
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I think it's pronounced who am I who ami hu Ami.
So an aucklander booked lunch for five people, fell sick,
canceled in the booking in a phone call to the restaurant,
and then found that their credit card a being deducted
two hundred and fifty bucks fifty dollars per diner. I
guess it doesn't feel like a great bit of good
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pr doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Terrible publicity by sky City or the I think it
was in sky City, the place with yeh does Yeah. Hey,
look we charge a bond of twenty dollars per person
for booking up over ten and look, if you cancel
on the day, will consider, but we give it back.
But what this is designed to do is over Christmas,
corporates book four or five restaurants for twenty to twenty
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five people, and on the day they decide which restaurant
they want to go to, so then they cancel four.
And that's where really I know it's so wrong out there,
and that's what happens. It does happen out there.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So it's a sunny day, they'll be out sun for
the rainy now they'll be in a cozier restaurant So
what do you make of it, Bridget? Because look as
look we're saying that they have a bond for his
new restaurant and Ponsonby Road, I should give the name
Jiji by the way, loose it. But I don't know.
I don't know what I think about this. I sort
of think, well, it's not great pr but then again,
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if you sign up to it and you don't read
the small print, I'm not sure where I'm at with
this one. Bridget.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, well I just learned that, you know, to book
the Christmas party this year, I should be booking somewhere
that was Wellington a good day and some day it's
for raining. I didn't know that Corporus were doing that.
That is quite outrageous, and I do think there's a
lot of people that don't respect how much, you know,
restaurants in a hospitality sector invest, and if you don't
fill that space that you are, you know, they're losing
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a lot of money. And fifty dollars a year doesn't
cover what they would have actually probably you know, spent,
had they actually been there and sat down. So I
do have a lot of sympathy for this. I think
if it's really made clear you know when you book,
and I think of like my heirdresser who's really popular.
It's really clear when I book that if I know
cancel with then I think it's forty eight hours or
something that I'll be charged for it. And I'm totally
(31:57):
comfortable for that because there is lost money that's not
going into their back pocket, particularly on like a sad
day or one of those busy sessions. So I think
people need to be as long as it's made clear,
then you know the risk is yours for the taking.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I think as well, given what you were talking about,
whether I imagine a restaurant like Kuami, maybe they do
get a lot of people booking and just not showing
and they've just said, Okay, we're going to stick with this.
So a seat's a seat, which is money, right, Yeah,
and that's where they're coming from.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
But you've got to mix it. I mean, for five people,
I wouldn't worry about it. For over ten people, yes,
I would worry about it. That takes a bagel percentage
of your seats.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
How do you actually do it as a restaurant tour
When people ring up to book, is there a conversation
that happens over the phone or is it online where
it's a conversation over the phone, So anything over ten
we just say, look, there's a deposit per person, pay here,
will confirme, you will confirm and do do people ever
balk at that? Or is they just sort of assume? Yeah,
(32:53):
of course it's GESI. It's the mere Bonsen beds.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's a sort of hat seat. Yes, it's you know,
look at the people lining up together.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Hey. By the way, I have been constantly googling mayor
of Pons and B and I'm down to page I'm
onto page four or five of my Google search. I'm
still yet to come up with Luke Dalay's name. We better,
I'm gonna have to start putting in Luke Dallo miya
PONSONB just so we can create some content for the s.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
That is d A L l O W, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, Yes, I think I've got that right. Anyway, By
the way, he's the one of the new owners of
Gigi and Pons and B. You should pop along. I
always like to get people a bit of a plug
when they take the time to come on my shade.
So good on you, Luke. Than anyway, you haven't got
a restaurant. Have you a Bridget that I'm missing out?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, No, just a law firm, okay, right, which which
I have to say sometimes we do ask for fees
in advance, we held in our trust account, which is
not that different in some ways.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, actually, yeah, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Good
on you? Right, We're gonna have another cup of teen
to light and we'll be back in just a moment's
ten minutes to four News Talk, said b I almost
(34:15):
don't want to come in on top of that. A
little bit of music there, but nevertheless, welcome back to
the panel. I'm Tim Beverage of Bridget Morton and Lukedllo
my guests, Lucky. Last topic, Well, it's the All Blacks
in France tonight, the second test to gets France. We
were supposed to take them apart last week, but we didn't.
I'm struggling to you get excited about rugby at the moment, Luke,
(34:38):
where are you at with the All Blacks and the
upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'll be honest with you, they just don't do it
for me anymore. I'll be honest with they just don't
do it for me anymore. They're just I used to
take time off to watch the All Blacks. I don't
do that anymore. I'd rather wrotch other sports that are
up and coming, like the under nineteens, the basketball team
that came forth in the world. I got up and
watch theme that was fantastic, and I just think they're
(35:01):
I don't know, I'm just they've lost his shine for me?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
What Bridget, what do you think is is that something
that you resonate with her? Are you going to be
along to the stadium tonight and with bells on?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, I'm not at the box.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I'm not at the stadium tonight. Maybe if someone will
give me a corporate box to keep away from this
fear or cold weather, I might have been to.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Keep away from the riff raft.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well, I'm on this show, aren't I? So I'm clearly not.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Okay, Yeah, but yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I haven't had a big interest was saying that All
Backs for a long time. But I mean the Black
Funds though, because I mean they're all playing also playing
this afternoon, I think they are way more exciting. I
think that's absolutely what lookes because we've actually got way
more options now for what sport we can see what
we can see live. You know, you wouldn't had Woman's
Rugby broadcast before, so that's way more. I think I'm
(35:55):
going to go home and watch that while doing some island.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's funny. I'm going to be a little bit flip
floppy on this because I do look forward to the
Northern Hemisphere to I love it when we head north
and we take on Funnily enough, we take on France
for France, AI guess, but well, you know, we take
on a variety of nations depending on what year it is.
And I'm actually quite interested in seeing the Wallabies and
the Lines series, but yeah, I'm not sure. It just
(36:19):
takes me a while to warm up. But I do
wonder if part of the problem is that there are
so many sport offerings where you can really immerse yourself
into the personalities behind it, and it still feels that
we're dealing with all blacks pr from nineteen ninety three
or something, whereas you know with Netflix, with the f one,
(36:39):
you get this window into the drivers and all the personalities.
There's a Tour de France version of where that you
get to. We get to there just doesn't seem to
be that that sort of access which really makes us
feel that we own them. Is it Fairbridge or do
you think I'm a little bit harsh?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right that we want
to see that kind of behind the scenes and get
to know them as people. So just having those sort
of stand ups and the sort of you know, a
little bit of inside and their training sessions doesn't actually
provide people with that feeling of being part of the
community or knowing people. Knowing the players about who they
are rather than just how they kick.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Still be interesting. See what happened. I mean, I think
we are probably going to take the frogs apart this time,
aren't we.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
We're definitely to take the frogs apart.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Frogs these days? Is are still politically correct bluing like
that when you when the economy wins, right, that's right there. Anyway, Hey,
thanks so much for your time, Bridget Morton and Luke Dello,
and we'll look forward to you opening your restrong Bridget,
so we can give that a plague as well, and
Luke great to having on the show mate. Thank you,
(37:42):
and people can keep googling Mayor of Ponsonby to see
if anyone can track down Luke Dello have been referred
to that at least once. Anyway, Hey, thanks guys, we'll
look forward to your company again. Next hour on the
Wondroufradio show, Brad Olsen's with us, This is news Talk,
said Bill, tell you when you can go.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
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