March 21, 2025 • 40 mins
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Very good afternoon. Tell you. I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome to
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in a hurry. Coming up in today's show and just
a moment, I'll be introducing myes mildly esteemed panelists. Now
actually I'm not going to mess around. They are esteemed
highly esteemed panelists, but just I'll be introducing them in
the moment in a moment, But this afternoon we're going
to be working me also a couple of new guests
on a one roof radio show and the Parents Squad.
And for the one roof Radio show, our new guest
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is Melissa Greno, and I've got to check that pronunciation
might be Greeno. Perhaps she's an interior designer. We're going
to be talking about the basics of interior design. If
you've got any questions, we'll be taking your calls on
eight hundred and eighty ten to eighty. But what are
the most important rooms in your house that you should
actually get some advice on? So we will be talking
with Melissa after four and after five another new guest.
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He is principal of Vanguard Military School, Rockley Montgomery, and
we're going to be talking about, well, what's more important
values or results? And also are parents in danger of
helicoptering too much or not enough? Among other things, And
we'll have a chat about character schools like Charter and
what perhaps what values or what they can offer that
public schools could implement peraps. So we'll be having a
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chat about that after five o'clock four the Parents Squad,
and before six Jason Pines with us to wrap sport,
looking to the final race at Western Springs, and also
previewing the Blues and the Crusaders. So I need to
take a breath after that means we've got a lot on.
So welcome to the Weekend Collective. It is nine minutes
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Parentech, property, politics, plus money, health and the week's debates.
It's all on the Weekend Collective with Tim Beveridge us
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Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yes, there we go in time to introduce, as I said,
my highly esteemed panelist, and she is. I'm not going
to mess around here. She's the voice of news. She's
the voice of breakfast news. Much love, colleague Nevaretti Mardi,
Hello Neva, how are you hello?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
To see you again? You too.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
We do pass a couple of times in the morning
at five o'clock when I'm just heading.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
To to be kind of like leaping through, always saying Tim,
let's have a ketch up, stay around, hang around after
the five o'clock news. But you have been here for
a long time ago, No, Nave, I've got to go
to sleep. I've got to go to sleep, and off
you go.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
There we go, and and look the is the old
war horse, the old Silver Fox himself esteemed highly esteemed.
Co Martyr is the word of the week. The co
Martyr were of News and Current Affairs, Mark christ Or
Home Mark.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Yes, esteemed but not stirred.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Is that it esteem but not stirred. I think that's
not shaken, not stirred, shaken. I'm not sturred. Yes, how
are you?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I'm very very well actually, and I feel I had
such an amazing night this week at the Kiwi Bank
News Inander of the Year Awards. Oh yes, And I
defy anybody to go to that and come out and
think what the hell have I been doing with my life?
Because these were the most extraordinary New Zealanders giving service
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to us, a lot of them out of the goodness
of their own hearts. Is truly truly inspirational night. And
I had the great honor of being one of the
judges this year, really in the local hero section and
just yeah, amazing night. So yeah, it actually makes you
feel very good about the country that we live in,
this beautiful country at the bottom of the world, and
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the people there, and particularly it gives me great heart
for the future. It was a full house, yeah, and
deservedly so.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It was just Povlughton. She got the big, big, big
big awards.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yes, the big, big, big big award.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah. No, incredible night and a bunch of people that
probably nobody's ever heard of before as well, although it
was incredibly moving when the Lake Alis Survivors won the
Community of the Year. It's got a big standing ovation
in the room.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I think, actually, these opportunities to just go along and
see the contributions people made, and we get that of
course in the by twice a year with the honors
lists as well, and I've been to one of those
ceremonies and to sit there and hear the recitations of
what people have done to contribute to the communities, whether
it be through their occupation or through their spare time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's it's actually and it's good to not to hear
about just the big names and all the people that
you know, you know, because there are a lot of
people that fly under the radar and that most New
Zealanders wouldn't know and they think, wow, did that person
do that?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
It's one hundred percent, it's what it's what keeps community going.
I mean, the community is at the heart of everything
that happens in our country. You know, people volunteering, helping out,
doing all those sorts of things, often most of the
time for nothing, but it's what holds us together. And
I've been to countries where that sort of thing is
broken down and it's not great.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Actually, have you been given a gong yet?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I just I've got to say this because I think
he might actually end.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I can point you to the website where you can
fill out that because but you know, too just too humble.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, a couple of days ago I looked on LinkedIn
tem and there was a post there and Mark krysl
is a finalist and will you tell the story Global
Awards please, Tip tell.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
It's the World Sports Journalism Awards basically. For the last
two stories I did on Sunday Wow, Yeah. One was
on Billy guiton the first New Zealand rugby player to
die with CTE and the other one was I thank
you I forgot to acknowledge your support.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
The other one was on a legendary reclusive photographer called
Logan Murray who was hidden his face for decades.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Fantastic. So when do you find out whether your finalist?
Have they announced the one as yet? No?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Actually, the great thing is with this is actually if
you do become you know, if you get into I'm
on the long list. If you get on the short list,
you guaranteed him an award and they fly you. Oh
wow that is and this year it's in robut in Morocco.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Get stuffed.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh I will oh, I will.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Oh that sounds that sounds great.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Stuff with.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And that was just my jealous outburst there.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, I'm not there yet.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Oh well, you know, fingers cross day. Now let's get
onto other. Well, we do have some good news to celebrate,
I think on the on the show, hopefully during the
course of our panel discussion. But GDP up point zero
point seven percent.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It could be well, thank God for that.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
We could be continuing to dig, but we're not. We've
had a I mean, who knows how long it will last.
I did think that was it. Jared Kirby, KIWI Bank economist.
I saw his comment was that we were crawling out
of recession, which was which was a colorful and sort
of cautious way of putting it. And we've still you know,
we're still behind where we want to be, but it's
a bit of good news.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What do you reckon, Mark Oh one hundred percent. I
mean any or.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Zero point seven percent.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Actually, any green shoots at the moment. Anything that makes
us feel better and shakes this out of this FuG
that we've been in is a good thing in my view.
I mean, you do have to be realistic here as well.
The economy is still shrunk by a percentage point over
the year, or the GDP has shrunk in New Zealand,
which is concerning, which means we are going backwards and
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that's growth from a negative base. So but you know
we're coming back and slowly. It's just we don't know
what the guy with the orange face in the White
House is going to do next and how that could
impact on us. Well, I think there's a tariff war
or something like that, and we're a trading nation. It
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doesn't matter how relentlessly focused the government is on growth, growth, growth,
we are. We could be dog Tucker again.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, Actually, I don't think he knows what he's going
to do. Net I did throw try and hosting on
drive and I had to editorialize about the GDP thing.
But I did add that little thing, let's not get
out the champagne. But when we do get out of
the Champa and it might be quite cheap because if
they shove a two hundred percent in the US, it
might mean that there's a bit of a bloot of
champagne coming our way. And eves you a Champagne fan.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I am Champagne. I was drinking quite a bit of
that too last night.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Were lucky to see because you're so bright.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I'll tell you a little bit more later where
I was because I was at my first cricket match
ever last night. I was there with Kerrie Woodham. I
was her plus one. Kerrie knows everything about cricket.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm there. She knows.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I said to her, you should have played as a child.
She knows everything. She was in my ear telling me
this is obviously the black Caps in Pakistan the T twenty.
She was telling me everything in the air and this happens,
this happens. But it was a stunning evening. And I mean,
bearing in mind, is a big sporting weekend, so there
was you know, I mean, it wasn't packed packed, but
there was a good crowd and yeah, you know, like
(09:52):
thoroughly enjoyed it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. But you know, back
to GDP, I mean I'm agreeing here with Mark. I
mean is we've got to take the small wins. We've
got to take the small wins. You know, I didn't
even expect that to be zero point seven, and I thought,
you know, I think everyone thought zero point two to
zero point five, and I thought, you know what, it's better,
And how all the economists are saying we're just bouncing
(10:12):
at the bottom. Well, I'd rather be bouncing on the
bottom than being in the bottom. So I know you're right,
We've still got a long way to go. But hey,
it's it's something.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
The sticky thing is is you've got to ask I
just get that close to that Mike, closer to that mike,
that big boy, thank you very much. You should be.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Looking for, ready, Hodaki.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
The sticky thing would be asking people if they feel
any better off, And I think most people would say.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No, that's the journey, because consumer confidence was down just
the day.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Before, and unemployment is high ish and probably higher than
the numbers have And you know, I because of my industry,
I know a lot of people who are looking for
jobs and finding it really hard to find them as well,
So you know that's the thing. And the government still
had there were there were surveys out this week that
shows a lot of satisfaction with the way things are
(11:04):
going at the moment with the government, and so you know,
you've got to ask out people how they meet feel.
You know, business confidence is also plateaued.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I think things like this take a while to put
to actually filter through to people feeling a bit better
because you have the GDP result than you've got to
have a bit more of a positive result and then
you feel things turn around a bit. Maybe the Reserve
Bank they went't anticipating this. Maybe we'll see some cheaper
cash rates and all of a sudden, you know, people
start going, oh, life's not so I.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Think I think people will be cautious after this. I mean,
I think if there is more money washing around, they're
not going to go out to cafes and restaurants and
different shows. They're going to hunker down and pay off debt.
Because this has been I feel that we've lost a
bit of our optimism in this country because we've had
blow after blow blow. We've had COVID, we've had the
cost of living, we've had storms, cyclones, climate, now unemployment.
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So people are feeling every time they get up off
the mat. They're going to get whacked that back down again.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And like eleven of those sixteen industries have grown. But
and you're quite right, Mark, you know it's the media,
the communications, telecommunications, you know, construction. They're the ones that
have you know, like taken a big hit.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
That's right, the real people in the media exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I worker ats yes, hey, you mind you another good
bit of news. The conversation out of India does seem
to be rather bullish, doesn't it neaves so lux and
they're talking about a matter of months or something to
I'm not sure how long it's tapen.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean I think you know, like when you see
this trip for Luxen, he it was jam packed. He
did a lot in the air and like looking at it,
he did quite a good job. You know, he was
out there, out and about looks like it was you know,
a success, like as you say with the FTA discussions
you know, hopefully going to begin next week. I mean,
(12:56):
you know, as they say that dairy was a sticking
point on you know, whether that's going to fly with
the dairy farmers in India. But also too, you know,
that was encouraging. It was the tourism numbers and hopefully
if they get this, you know, these flights direct flights,
but okay, you know, we don't have the planes for that,
and it's probably not going to happen till twenty twenty eight.
And I think, you know, sometimes that's right.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, in New Zealand and the direct flights, it's kind
of knock that hours and hours off getting here.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But I mean, you know, I think a few of
the groups and then have said, oh, twenty twenty eight,
it seems such a long way away. But at least
you know, it's it's you know, the discussion is there.
If you're not talking about it, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Well, it's the population of India. It's it's quite large,
because either of you guys been there. No, Oh my.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
God, it's the most extraordinary country. It is. It is.
I think it's I've traveled with lots of places.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
One of the great travel experiences.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, I don't think it's a first place. I overhead
culture shock and just it was like, oh my god,
because everywhere you turn there are people doing stuff, shouting, running,
going things like that. It's an incredible country. You've got
I think what four hundred million Indians who are considered
middle class, so earning over eighty thousand uyears dollars a year.
(14:12):
So there's a immense that's a massive market on its own.
You know, you've got a probably you've got a tower
block or an apartment block in Mumbai, which is the
population of one of our major cities. It's an incredible place.
I think with the free trade, I mean, it still
will be years away before we start to be from it,
(14:34):
but if it goes through, but I think it's a
good thing to diversify. We don't want it will be
in the China basket. We don't really want to be
in the American basket so much, you know, so if
we can diversify our exports derry. There is a real
success story with New Zealand trade. One in particular, it's
(14:55):
Todd McLay.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I think when I spoke to Helen Clark about her
Politician of the I think she might have had tied.
I had Helen and lockwood Smith together for the end
of the year sort of thing and it was actually
quite a fun chat. But if I remember right, she
was one of his picks for a politicians doing a
great job He's one of those sort of sales under
the radar a bit, but whenever you hear me, he's
always on task. He's a hard worker.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And you know, great delegation there too. Yeah, you know
with them Dame you know Therese Walsh was there. Oh yes, yes,
and obviously he was talking about cricket because Ross Taylor
was also saw that.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, well, speaking of cricket, you know the thing I
was thinking where things can almost go wrong. I was
watching the game of street cricket. They were showing lux
and playing on the news and he was he was
batting and I just sort of thought, you know, everything
could go everything could turn because he was trying to
hit that thing out of the park. It was there
are some kids there, and I thought, all he needs
(15:52):
to do is skew it into someone's head and and
the and the headline is negative. I was like just
just playing cautiously, but was trying.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
To remember Boris Johnson dropping his shoulder and the child
playing that's exactly. Can I just have a big shout
out there. There's a Canterbury company called wind Seed International
and they've been selling into India for about ten years now,
breeding in high quality hybrid vegetable seeds like beetroot, and
(16:22):
that's in the billions.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Now.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Wow, it's like over nine billion seeds they've sold into
India over the past ten years ago, which is like,
I don't know, two three beat root for every Indian
on the continent. So I mean they're are they based
in christ teaching, that's about down in Canterbury, so you
know there, and they're they're making you know, turning over
around one hundred and twenty four million dollars in trade
(16:44):
and things like that with India every year. So I
mean there's some really interesting countries doing things in there,
and it may not be all dairy, but there are
things that we can do to get in there like that.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hey, look we'll take quick Actually, just before we go
to the break, I thought I just mentioned some breaking
news on the boxing front that George Foreman, who famously
fought iconic battle with Mhammad Ali Rumbull in the Jungle,
he's passed away, just passed away of seventy six, as
family announcers have just announced it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
It's he was an extraordinary guy. He was a big
bruisy belt of you know, angry man. He got beaten
by Ali in Zaiea and he just grew to become
such a wonderful, warm of uncular character.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
To six did you say, yes, seventy six years old. Yes,
he passed away. Yeah, he's literally just been recently passed
away and his family has just released a statement. He
was a humanitarian and Olympian, two time heavyweight champion of
the world. For many people, they think, oh, the George
Foreman grill. Yeah, yes, one of those that one of
(17:46):
those one of those one where the fat You have
your steak and you feel like I'm having a steak,
but it's got less fat because it's all run away.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's the one.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
And then you realize the fat's the tasty and you're
not being healthy at all. But I mean, what an
incredible sort of you know, he didn't just thought he
was a legend. Wasn't just boxing Anyway, We're going to
take a quick break. This is news talk said be.
My panel is Mark krysl and never Retty Marnu. I'm
Tim Beverage. It is twenty coming out to twenty five
past three.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's such a good time. Stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
You want to have a good time. I keep wanting
to let the music roll a bit longer because I
do enjoy some of the taste some of the musical
choices of my producer Tyra. So good stuff, Tyro. Let's
keep it coming. Now, Welcome back to the Weekend Collective.
This is the panel Never, Retty Marno are my guests
Mark krysl and as well? Sorry? Did I say never?
Retty Marno are my guests that I make your a plural?
(18:53):
Never and Mark krysl are my guests?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Were they them?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Don't try and don't try and trigg in the text machine? Okay, Hey,
look the New Zealand Defense Force job cuts. They are
restructuring the civilian workforce, which could mean the reduction and
this is not so much people, but the reduction of
three hundred and seventy four rolls after one hundred and
forty four civilian workers opted for voluntary redundancy. I guess
(19:20):
the headline is it looks like they're cutting back on
things in the Defense Force as a result of budgets
and stuff, when probably the vibe around the world is
that we should all be spending more on our defense force.
I think I had an interview on a couple of
days ago about it, and I think the statement that
came out from the Defense Force was it has actually
amounted to about eighty people were going to be gone.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
But anyway, Mark, Yeah, it is on the face of
an odd one and it sounds like, I mean, all
the signs are from Winston being in Washington, and what
the Prime ministers said is that we will be lifting
our contribution in the defense area up to around two
percent of GDP, which is in line with our partners
and still quite a bit below the big guys like
(20:06):
America and Europe. But it does seem odd because a
lot of those people I know are in support roles,
which are just as important quite often as those on the.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Front It means the front line, it means that uniform staff.
I mean, I don't know how that affects their work.
We actually didn't managed to interview from the Defense Force.
They weren't talking apart from their statement.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But yeah, but you know, like every government department, every
department is it's you know, it doesn't surprise me about this,
and I think with the Defense they cannot be left
out of this. They've got to look at it. They've
got to look at it. I mean, this is just
when that when does this the Defense Force of the
capability plan nets coming out. I mean, that'll be interesting.
(20:44):
That's only in a matter of.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Weeks, and they can't be sitting on defense.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
No oh, it was a pun, by the way, that
was very good. Actually, the thing that the sorry why
you delivered it across your leagues looking at me saying, oh,
I only only because ladies, and generally if you're listening,
(21:10):
this is when I do wish it was a televised show,
because the best part of that was Mark's expression of smugness,
like and he was like better to be sitting on defense,
and then the first lips at of like ye. So
maybe we can find the footage for that. We'll sync
it up and then we'll have it. Because we do
(21:30):
have cameras. They're just not turned on. Now you tell me, oh,
no they're not. They're turned on, but they're not. They're
not running, they're not broadcasting because you know, it's just
for special occasions. And Tyra has got the footage now,
so she's gonna, oh, what.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Well, I didn't give my permission for this.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
You're sitting. Look see that camera over there with the
green light. The camera's always on Mark, as is the microphone,
except in the break the mics off behind the scenes information. Now, look,
this is an interesting one. This this question around the
Facebook group. So there's a public Facebook page which connects
flats with flat hunters. It's got over two hundred thousand
(22:10):
plus members. I don't know how many are active. But
one of the admins just was finding it too hard
to keep up with the job, and so they were
going to charge a fee of three dollars per post,
which I think goes against Facebook's policies anyway, So it's problematic.
But instead of withdrawing, that person has just closed down
the page. And it begs a couple of questions about, well,
(22:33):
it's an incredibly successful page. Where will those people go?
Probably they could have set up a website. But the
other side of it, because if you're going to spend
all that time, you probably aren't told to charge us.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
As a stupid story, I think these people are. I
really do. When I read this story, you said we're
going to do this, and I read it and I thought, oh,
for goodness sake, have you got nothing better else to do?
These people shouldn't even be on that of Facebook page,
And I thought, scammers, anything on Facebook is going to
that's where the scammers.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Level that Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Absolutely the hell would give the bank details? Oh yeah,
I mean it's three dollars. And then they came out
I think a day later and said, oh and one
dollar will go to charity.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah, right, not.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Where do charity beginning?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You know what the best, you know what their best
to do their best to say, we're it's we've been.
This is taking up so much time.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
We're closing down.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But if you want to this is our website and
if people want to connect, look, actually finding it's a
useful service.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But everyone's you know, I'm messaging and everyone's like, oh
my god. I thought, well, you know what, just cut
life life.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Life cut through to that. That's I'm with neither.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Actually, I just love the clarity with which you what
did you say? This is just such a stupid story.
How you know that? My producer, Tyre, spends a lot
of time compiling these things, And I'm going to go
out there a box of tissues at halftime because I
think you've heard her feelings. Seriously, have we got tishoes?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I should send stupid story?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I particular people? Yes, there we go, that's better. Yeah,
the damage is done. Look, look, well we were not
taking the break next. I'm just hoping she can. She'll
be all right for the next few minutes until week
in Totavia. Now the reason, by the way, actually no,
I was jumping ahead. So on the politics thing, now,
I don't know what I think. Well, I do know
(24:26):
what I think of this Act getting involved in local politics.
So David Sema wants local councilor wannabes to basically stand
under the party's banner and the October elections. Now, I'll
quickly give my opinion on this and then throw to you.
I don't think this is a bad idea for two reasons.
I don't like central government brand parties being involved with
local government politics for one. And I actually don't think
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this is David Seymour's smartest move because all he needs
is one or two dud counselors and they tarnish Act's name.
He's better to kick to stick to his knitting, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well he maybe because they had one or two dud
candidates in the last election. That that when you know,
when you shook the tree, some strange things fell out.
So I think I think one of the things that
David Seymour is very good at is keeping him and
his party in the headlines. And I think this is
another kind of brand recognition move by him, just by
(25:17):
getting people out there so people are talking about it
in the UK, for example, that a lot of the
candidates are aligned to political parties. We've just never done it.
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Good on them, Okay, I just climbing today.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know, only today. If you don't ask, you don't get.
That's why you know.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And good on him.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I think, well, you know what put your people up.
Let's see, and I mean it's a democracy. If you
don't like the personal whatever.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know, when election time comes around, we get those
booklets and this was one thing that people say. You
look at the booklet, you pick it up, you think, okay,
who am I going to vote for? Counselor? And we
I don't know any name recognition?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, no, this is what what do you vote for?
Adam Abel Bill Bauer?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No? Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Shall I get someone a little bit older between? You
read the bios, but then you think, and then you
look at the photos. I think the photos speak more
because then I look at the photos and I think, oh, okay,
I need.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Something judging a book by its cover?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Yes, are you saying you don't? Never?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
What is this chorus of disapproval?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
This is the moral majority?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That's right. Actually, I can I can contract myself on
this because we sort of do have what was it?
There's the sort of right wing conservative candidates are under
citizens and ratepayers, and there is the left wing one,
which is under vision. They've got different names, and we
know one's sort of laid when we know one.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You saw a photo of someone in one of those
booklets at head, really horrible hair, and you know.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Representing us.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
What do you do you look for someone who's got
the blue steel look?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Do you?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Or do you look for someone who looks sort of
like a little bit sort of just and the guy
next door, the gal next door? You know, the Green's
put slightly friendly, The Green's put people up, well, that's
very fun.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
For example, is a Green oh candidate.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
How is that going to play up for this election?
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
What a shame We're not down there?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
What a shame?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
That's what you should just Oh no, that's a dumb idea.
I was going to suggest something I thought was vaguely amusing,
But I'll keep it to myself now because it might
have been a clanger.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Emphasis on the vaguely, let's speak it.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm gonna have to okay, right, I'm going to go.
We have to take a break because I've got to go. Really, yes,
I have to get some tissues and some for Tira.
We'll be jack back in just a moment. I am
Tim Beveridge. This is the Weekend Collective panel. My panelists are.
If you don't recognize their wonderful tones, it's neither ready
Manu and Mark chrys And then we're back in just
a moment. It's twenty two minutes to four to sixty four.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
My love Love's going to leave.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I'm too sexy, shirt, too sexy bomb.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
My shirt so sexy it hurts.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
And I am too sexy form Land, too sexy bomb,
Lan your gander and welcome back to the Weekend Collective.
I actually I did want that song somewhere thrown in
because it's just so much fun and.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Seeing around dancing.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
So it goes like a whole minute of reasons why
white people shouldn't dance.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's what I got.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
God, someone in here has some rhythm.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No video on that one, anyway, I've instructed no video,
she's she's got mischief about it. Today, my producer, our producer. Now,
by the way, welcome back. I'm Tim Beverage, near Bretty, Marno,
Mark kras On my panelists. Now, I mentioned comatawain mischievously
in my introduction for you, Mark, because to me, com
martaware is a word that implies to me not just age,
(29:13):
but respectability and sanity. Yes, and well maybe not so
much beauty, but only in your case, Blue eyed silver Fox.
But the Greens call for Dean Wickliffe to be released,
and actually the story even rady in New Zealand Reporter
it says a comata where such and such as being
assaulted or and I thought, I'm not sure if that's
(29:33):
the word I would apply for Dean Wickliffe. But he's
back in trouble again. He's on a hunger strike, he's
lost more than seventeen seventeen kilos his lawyer and Sykes
told the Herald, what do we reckon? I'm going to
throw to because you've had enough to say, Mark, Well,
let's throw to mind. You're so of you, Neva, no
where you go, nev.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Look the thing is is why is he on this
hunger strike. He wants to be free from parole conditions
because it's resulted him being recalled to prison a number
of times for breaches.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
He's reaching.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
This is about the breaches. That's so I'm thinking, no, yeah,
you stay in there.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
But he's got he's got, he's got parole for his life.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
It never goes away and subject to conditions.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
And I think back inside because last time they led
him out. And this actually happens to lots of prisoners.
And I know this because I've done a bunch of
stories on it. And I agree with Bill English when
he said our prisons are a moral and fiscal failure.
It's because he was living in a car.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He was in the car for one night, though, wasn't he.
I mean, he's got to be at a house.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I think we are spending one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year to keep him in prison. Yeah, And
is that is that? I think good spending money. We'd
be better off spending some money to put him in
the house. He's seventy seven years old, should be really, because.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I don't care if he's seventy seventy.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
It seems a silly law.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
A second hunger strike he's ever done. I mean, he
did this back in the eighties as well. Oh he's
an attention sy cat.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I love it, go for it.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Neither nodiculous. So many of these guys who come out
really struggle to find accommodation. I mean, what's your reference
going to look like for a starter? You know? I
just think, give the guy a break, seventy seven years old.
What's he doing in prison on a hunger strike? Let
him out, pay some accommodation and you'll get a lot
(31:30):
of change out of that.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Disagree, Actually, I don't think with Dean with cleft and I'
getting a lot of change out of.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Him, But I mean changing money.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Parole conditions are parole conditions, And I think if he's
I mean, if he was, I don't know, he was
living in a car or something he had was supposed
to be living in an approved address. And to me,
if I was, if you or I or never were
somehow on parole because we've done something naughty in our life,
hopefully nothing as naughty as killing someone, then we would
probably call our parole officer and say I've been thrown
(31:59):
out of my accommodation or something. I've got a problem.
Can you help me rather than just suiting yourself and.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Saying to the rule the people that for such a
long time, and he has been probably at times our
longest serving prisoner.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Ever most successful escaper too him, Well you know, is
that something I.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Want to know what he threw at the corrections officer
that got that one of them stood down because they
did look like they give him quite a tickle up
by the look of it. Anyways, Look, but I just
love to see you because I don't like it when
you always agree. I like to see you fighting.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We can, but we do love each other.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I mean, that's the beautiful thing. Two people can have
different opinions.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yes, actually, still my favorite story about the Greens was
Tammotha Paul's TikTok video, where you see I'm having a
meeting with pea section or Tatarhi or something, and we're
going to talk about the abolition of the police force. Seriously,
she's talking about abolition to the police force. And what's
the alternative. I think it's called crime and lawlessness and chaos.
But anyway, I love that doesn't really get the headlines
(33:02):
that deserves pats. Imagine if David Seymour one of his troops.
It says we're thinking about abolishing the police. One news
would be banging on it for about a week, wouldn't they. Anyway,
there's my cheap shot there.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Got off his chess.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I've got it off your chest?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Well, I think I mentioned it because I think people
should know that. I wonder if the Greens get held
to a lower standard sometimes because they do say some
pretty silly stuff and it just sort of gets gloredous.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Being I don't think any party has any mortgage or
not saying silly stuff.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah, but no, No, they're capable of saying it. But
how much focus gets put on them when they do
say it it varies.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
It does.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Look at your face, I'm relaxed.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Look, actually, okay, we'll roll the tape on this one.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Don't make him dance.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Don't make him dance please, Okay, right, Look, here's a
nice isn't an interesting story? But that a time caps
You're buried twenty five years ago during a bathroom renovation
has been on earth, with the discovering coming on the
anniversary of the death of the father who hid it. There, Gosh,
that would be sort of a confirmed that it contains
photos and letters from local teachers. That's their three children
(34:06):
and everything. I mean, he hit it rather well. I
mean you'd think when you've.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Heard twenty five years ago.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yeah, and if it's only OnEarth during a bathroom renovation,
I mean, it could have been there for a hell
of a lot longer, didn't it or did he cleverly think, God,
you've got to renovate every I love this.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I think it's you know, the timing was perfect emotional
and you know, like having reading all those letters from
the children when the children were young. I think that's
something that they can hold on to and it's their
lovely memories. I mean, have you guys got a time
capt sure, would you bet it with your family?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
No? But it was a lovely story. My daughter got
her grandfather passed away, and about six months after he
passed away, we got a parcel that he'd sent to her,
but he'd sent it to the wrong address, and it
was a very special little book that he'd picked out
for her as a story about Picasso and she loves arts.
(34:57):
It is a kid's book and there was his handwritten
in there. And it came about six months after because
the address was wrong and they finally found us, but
it was it was such a beautiful thing, and just
that he had been so thoughtful to think about her
and after the you know, the grief of losing someone
close to you and then to understand something like that.
It's one of those tangible.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
What it reminds. It also reminds me of how these days,
so many I mean, I'm not sure if we are
preserving memories in the digital age because there's so much
you know, people don't write letters. I've still got the
letters my mom, Mom, I've got all the letters my
mum and dad wrote to me in the first year
or two when I was at university.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
But know there was shiny shoes.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
There was a funny one I can I will share
this with you, Mum. I don't ever recall Mom ever
talking about sex in front of me. Sex and when
we were One of the letters I still remember she
wrote it was back in the time when when you know,
there was some sort of sexually. I think it aids
was really the big story of the day. And she
(36:02):
wrote and she said, among other things, she is like,
you know such and such with your father and I
have been doing this and your brother was over for
over for dinner on the weekend, and we watched you know,
such and such had the dog tanged event. By the way,
we watched a she didn't say, by the way, that's right.
We had dinner. We watched a documentary about AIDS. Makes
you realize the dangers of casual sex. The weather's been great,
(36:26):
it's not funny. Just out of all those letters, and
I just remember I read it and just went, what, oh,
that's beautiful. She's telling me to Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh, that's so lovely.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You couldn't bring us ouf to this, you know that phone,
just the little sentence in there, which she might as
well have written it in vivid marker. Anyway, I kept.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
All the birthday cards that my mother sent me. But
oh my gosh, it's a spelling mistakes, typical media person,
you know, like when I read them back and okay,
frip and eggs. The only thing she spelt right was
my name.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You don't have to spell properly when you're on radio.
You just have to pronounce the words properly, don't you.
That's right, exactly right.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
We're got to take a break. Be back in just
a moment. My guests are Neva retty Mano and Mark Kreisel.
I'm Tim Beveridge. This is the week in Collective Panel
at ten minutes to four. Yes, welcome back to News
Talk to Be. This is the panel and Never retty
Mano and Mark Kreisel are my guests and guys. The
final race at Western Springs. What an end of an
era for that venue. So the engines are going to roar,
the fans are going to gather together for one night
(37:29):
of high speed spectacle. For many people, Western Springs was
the venue for them when they saw some amazing concerts.
And that's what I think of more with Western Springs,
of course, you know, because that's what I went to
sea concerts there. What about you, Mark, What do you remember.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Our concerts When I was growing up in New Plymouth.
We came up, we saw Bob Marley, Oh, which was amazing.
We bunked off school and David Bowie the biggest concert
ever in New Zealand. Eighty thousand people crammed into the
nineteen eg three. And then another one I really remember
(38:03):
is the first time Bruce Springsteen played here. And he
played at Western Springs really yeah, and it was pouring
with rain, absolutely pouring with rain, and and you know
that there was muddy and people were saturated. And he
came on and his first song he sang, is who
will Stopped the rain? By clear Water? Revive It and
(38:23):
the rain stopped?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh yeah, that's fantastic memories.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Yeah, special memories.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
You really do. I love your Your memories are way
better than mine.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Come on, let's hear.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I've only been to one concert and it wasn't even
though there were no big names. It was just one
of those local summer singings and I was only there
for an hour and I thought, oh, this sucks, but
I got a free ticket and it was I can't
even tell you who was singing because it was you know,
they weren't. It wasn't major, It wasn't a big big
names or anything.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Just talking about redeveloping it for a stadium. I think, yes,
I saw that. That's people behind.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Yeah, and paddleball and basketball.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Hasn't Brian Ally Williams or something whole a bunch of it?
Speaker 6 (39:08):
So have you performed there?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Not at Western Springs?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
No?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
No, I mean enough. Oh you know, you know, don't
get him. Bob Marley wanted me to to Bob Marley
wanted me to be opening act, but I was like,
you know, it just didn't work out my schedule wise
and age wise too. It's probably only about five. I
don't know anyway, Hey guys, thank you so much for
(39:33):
coming on the show today. Mark. When do you find
out about these whether you're shortlist, didn't get the trip
trip to where is it Morocco, Morocco?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Robert in Morocca. I don't know. Hopefully you know, within
the next few months. It'd be amazing. I mean, I
you know, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You've got two chances though, because you've got two intries.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
And you're into you've got to be into win.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
So it got to be a nice feeling to tell
everything that happened last year. That to know that your
stories were strong at the end and that you remembered
what you did.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Great to see than what you said and Nieves so
lovely to see, Thank you so much one of our
What have you got planned for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, I'm going to go home and enjoy this lovely sunshine.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Isn't it gorgeous?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
The weather?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Can I say what an aspect of privilege it is
to be on the radio with the Queen of the
Way stupid amazing, the.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Voice of news absolutely well. Good to have you both
and well anyway, we're back with a new guest, Melissa
Greeno as an interior designer. Wonder Roof Radio show will
be taking your cause and giving you a bit of
advice if you like it, whether or whether or not.
Back soon.
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Speaker 5 (00:54):
Very good afternoon. Tell you. I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome to
the show this Weekend Collective of the twenty second of March,
well and truly into autumn. I'm feeling quite smart, becaus
went for a swim today, but just keeping that between me. Anyway.
You can text your feedback on nine two nine two,
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in a hurry. Coming up in today's show and just
a moment, I'll be introducing myes mildly esteemed panelists. Now
actually I'm not going to mess around. They are esteemed
highly esteemed panelists, but just I'll be introducing them in
the moment in a moment, But this afternoon we're going
to be working me also a couple of new guests
on a one roof radio show and the Parents Squad.
And for the one roof Radio show, our new guest
(01:37):
is Melissa Greno, and I've got to check that pronunciation
might be Greeno. Perhaps she's an interior designer. We're going
to be talking about the basics of interior design. If
you've got any questions, we'll be taking your calls on
eight hundred and eighty ten to eighty. But what are
the most important rooms in your house that you should
actually get some advice on? So we will be talking
with Melissa after four and after five another new guest.
(02:00):
He is principal of Vanguard Military School, Rockley Montgomery, and
we're going to be talking about, well, what's more important
values or results? And also are parents in danger of
helicoptering too much or not enough? Among other things, And
we'll have a chat about character schools like Charter and
what perhaps what values or what they can offer that
public schools could implement peraps. So we'll be having a
(02:22):
chat about that after five o'clock four the Parents Squad,
and before six Jason Pines with us to wrap sport,
looking to the final race at Western Springs, and also
previewing the Blues and the Crusaders. So I need to
take a breath after that means we've got a lot on.
So welcome to the Weekend Collective. It is nine minutes
past three.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Parentech, property, politics, plus money, health and the week's debates.
It's all on the Weekend Collective with Tim Beveridge us
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Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yes, there we go in time to introduce, as I said,
my highly esteemed panelist, and she is. I'm not going
to mess around here. She's the voice of news. She's
the voice of breakfast news. Much love, colleague Nevaretti Mardi,
Hello Neva, how are you hello?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
To see you again? You too.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
We do pass a couple of times in the morning
at five o'clock when I'm just heading.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
To to be kind of like leaping through, always saying Tim,
let's have a ketch up, stay around, hang around after
the five o'clock news. But you have been here for
a long time ago, No, Nave, I've got to go
to sleep. I've got to go to sleep, and off
you go.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
There we go, and and look the is the old
war horse, the old Silver Fox himself esteemed highly esteemed.
Co Martyr is the word of the week. The co
Martyr were of News and Current Affairs, Mark christ Or
Home Mark.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Yes, esteemed but not stirred.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Is that it esteem but not stirred. I think that's
not shaken, not stirred, shaken. I'm not sturred. Yes, how
are you?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I'm very very well actually, and I feel I had
such an amazing night this week at the Kiwi Bank
News Inander of the Year Awards. Oh yes, And I
defy anybody to go to that and come out and
think what the hell have I been doing with my life?
Because these were the most extraordinary New Zealanders giving service
(04:11):
to us, a lot of them out of the goodness
of their own hearts. Is truly truly inspirational night. And
I had the great honor of being one of the
judges this year, really in the local hero section and
just yeah, amazing night. So yeah, it actually makes you
feel very good about the country that we live in,
this beautiful country at the bottom of the world, and
(04:32):
the people there, and particularly it gives me great heart
for the future. It was a full house, yeah, and
deservedly so.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It was just Povlughton. She got the big, big, big
big awards.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yes, the big, big, big big award.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yeah. No, incredible night and a bunch of people that
probably nobody's ever heard of before as well, although it
was incredibly moving when the Lake Alis Survivors won the
Community of the Year. It's got a big standing ovation
in the room.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I think, actually, these opportunities to just go along and
see the contributions people made, and we get that of
course in the by twice a year with the honors
lists as well, and I've been to one of those
ceremonies and to sit there and hear the recitations of
what people have done to contribute to the communities, whether
it be through their occupation or through their spare time.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's it's actually and it's good to not to hear
about just the big names and all the people that
you know, you know, because there are a lot of
people that fly under the radar and that most New
Zealanders wouldn't know and they think, wow, did that person
do that?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
It's one hundred percent, it's what it's what keeps community going.
I mean, the community is at the heart of everything
that happens in our country. You know, people volunteering, helping out,
doing all those sorts of things, often most of the
time for nothing, but it's what holds us together. And
I've been to countries where that sort of thing is
broken down and it's not great.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Actually, have you been given a gong yet?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I just I've got to say this because I think
he might actually end.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I can point you to the website where you can
fill out that because but you know, too just too humble.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, a couple of days ago I looked on LinkedIn
tem and there was a post there and Mark krysl
is a finalist and will you tell the story Global
Awards please, Tip tell.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
It's the World Sports Journalism Awards basically. For the last
two stories I did on Sunday Wow, Yeah. One was
on Billy guiton the first New Zealand rugby player to
die with CTE and the other one was I thank
you I forgot to acknowledge your support.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
The other one was on a legendary reclusive photographer called
Logan Murray who was hidden his face for decades.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Fantastic. So when do you find out whether your finalist?
Have they announced the one as yet? No?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Actually, the great thing is with this is actually if
you do become you know, if you get into I'm
on the long list. If you get on the short list,
you guaranteed him an award and they fly you. Oh
wow that is and this year it's in robut in Morocco.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Get stuffed.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh I will oh, I will.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Oh that sounds that sounds great.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Stuff with.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And that was just my jealous outburst there.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, I'm not there yet.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Oh well, you know, fingers cross day. Now let's get
onto other. Well, we do have some good news to celebrate,
I think on the on the show, hopefully during the
course of our panel discussion. But GDP up point zero
point seven percent.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It could be well, thank God for that.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
We could be continuing to dig, but we're not. We've
had a I mean, who knows how long it will last.
I did think that was it. Jared Kirby, KIWI Bank economist.
I saw his comment was that we were crawling out
of recession, which was which was a colorful and sort
of cautious way of putting it. And we've still you know,
we're still behind where we want to be, but it's
a bit of good news.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What do you reckon, Mark Oh one hundred percent. I
mean any or.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Zero point seven percent.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Actually, any green shoots at the moment. Anything that makes
us feel better and shakes this out of this FuG
that we've been in is a good thing in my view.
I mean, you do have to be realistic here as well.
The economy is still shrunk by a percentage point over
the year, or the GDP has shrunk in New Zealand,
which is concerning, which means we are going backwards and
(08:22):
that's growth from a negative base. So but you know
we're coming back and slowly. It's just we don't know
what the guy with the orange face in the White
House is going to do next and how that could
impact on us. Well, I think there's a tariff war
or something like that, and we're a trading nation. It
(08:43):
doesn't matter how relentlessly focused the government is on growth, growth, growth,
we are. We could be dog Tucker again.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, Actually, I don't think he knows what he's going
to do. Net I did throw try and hosting on
drive and I had to editorialize about the GDP thing.
But I did add that little thing, let's not get
out the champagne. But when we do get out of
the Champa and it might be quite cheap because if
they shove a two hundred percent in the US, it
might mean that there's a bit of a bloot of
champagne coming our way. And eves you a Champagne fan.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I am Champagne. I was drinking quite a bit of
that too last night.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Were lucky to see because you're so bright.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I'll tell you a little bit more later where
I was because I was at my first cricket match
ever last night. I was there with Kerrie Woodham. I
was her plus one. Kerrie knows everything about cricket.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm there. She knows.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I said to her, you should have played as a child.
She knows everything. She was in my ear telling me
this is obviously the black Caps in Pakistan the T twenty.
She was telling me everything in the air and this happens,
this happens. But it was a stunning evening. And I mean,
bearing in mind, is a big sporting weekend, so there
was you know, I mean, it wasn't packed packed, but
there was a good crowd and yeah, you know, like
(09:52):
thoroughly enjoyed it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. But you know, back
to GDP, I mean I'm agreeing here with Mark. I
mean is we've got to take the small wins. We've
got to take the small wins. You know, I didn't
even expect that to be zero point seven, and I thought,
you know, I think everyone thought zero point two to
zero point five, and I thought, you know what, it's better,
And how all the economists are saying we're just bouncing
(10:12):
at the bottom. Well, I'd rather be bouncing on the
bottom than being in the bottom. So I know you're right,
We've still got a long way to go. But hey,
it's it's something.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
The sticky thing is is you've got to ask I
just get that close to that Mike, closer to that mike,
that big boy, thank you very much. You should be.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Looking for, ready, Hodaki.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
The sticky thing would be asking people if they feel
any better off, And I think most people would say.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No, that's the journey, because consumer confidence was down just
the day.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Before, and unemployment is high ish and probably higher than
the numbers have And you know, I because of my industry,
I know a lot of people who are looking for
jobs and finding it really hard to find them as well,
So you know that's the thing. And the government still
had there were there were surveys out this week that
shows a lot of satisfaction with the way things are
(11:04):
going at the moment with the government, and so you know,
you've got to ask out people how they meet feel.
You know, business confidence is also plateaued.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I think things like this take a while to put
to actually filter through to people feeling a bit better
because you have the GDP result than you've got to
have a bit more of a positive result and then
you feel things turn around a bit. Maybe the Reserve
Bank they went't anticipating this. Maybe we'll see some cheaper
cash rates and all of a sudden, you know, people
start going, oh, life's not so I.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Think I think people will be cautious after this. I mean,
I think if there is more money washing around, they're
not going to go out to cafes and restaurants and
different shows. They're going to hunker down and pay off debt.
Because this has been I feel that we've lost a
bit of our optimism in this country because we've had
blow after blow blow. We've had COVID, we've had the
cost of living, we've had storms, cyclones, climate, now unemployment.
(11:58):
So people are feeling every time they get up off
the mat. They're going to get whacked that back down again.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And like eleven of those sixteen industries have grown. But
and you're quite right, Mark, you know it's the media,
the communications, telecommunications, you know, construction. They're the ones that
have you know, like taken a big hit.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
That's right, the real people in the media exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I worker ats yes, hey, you mind you another good
bit of news. The conversation out of India does seem
to be rather bullish, doesn't it neaves so lux and
they're talking about a matter of months or something to
I'm not sure how long it's tapen.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean I think you know, like when you see
this trip for Luxen, he it was jam packed. He
did a lot in the air and like looking at it,
he did quite a good job. You know, he was
out there, out and about looks like it was you know,
a success, like as you say with the FTA discussions
you know, hopefully going to begin next week. I mean,
(12:56):
you know, as they say that dairy was a sticking
point on you know, whether that's going to fly with
the dairy farmers in India. But also too, you know,
that was encouraging. It was the tourism numbers and hopefully
if they get this, you know, these flights direct flights,
but okay, you know, we don't have the planes for that,
and it's probably not going to happen till twenty twenty eight.
And I think, you know, sometimes that's right.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, in New Zealand and the direct flights, it's kind
of knock that hours and hours off getting here.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But I mean, you know, I think a few of
the groups and then have said, oh, twenty twenty eight,
it seems such a long way away. But at least
you know, it's it's you know, the discussion is there.
If you're not talking about it, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Well, it's the population of India. It's it's quite large,
because either of you guys been there. No, Oh my.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
God, it's the most extraordinary country. It is. It is.
I think it's I've traveled with lots of places.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
One of the great travel experiences.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, I don't think it's a first place. I overhead
culture shock and just it was like, oh my god,
because everywhere you turn there are people doing stuff, shouting, running,
going things like that. It's an incredible country. You've got
I think what four hundred million Indians who are considered
middle class, so earning over eighty thousand uyears dollars a year.
(14:12):
So there's a immense that's a massive market on its own.
You know, you've got a probably you've got a tower
block or an apartment block in Mumbai, which is the
population of one of our major cities. It's an incredible place.
I think with the free trade, I mean, it still
will be years away before we start to be from it,
(14:34):
but if it goes through, but I think it's a
good thing to diversify. We don't want it will be
in the China basket. We don't really want to be
in the American basket so much, you know, so if
we can diversify our exports derry. There is a real
success story with New Zealand trade. One in particular, it's
(14:55):
Todd McLay.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I think when I spoke to Helen Clark about her
Politician of the I think she might have had tied.
I had Helen and lockwood Smith together for the end
of the year sort of thing and it was actually
quite a fun chat. But if I remember right, she
was one of his picks for a politicians doing a
great job He's one of those sort of sales under
the radar a bit, but whenever you hear me, he's
always on task. He's a hard worker.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And you know, great delegation there too. Yeah, you know
with them Dame you know Therese Walsh was there. Oh yes, yes,
and obviously he was talking about cricket because Ross Taylor
was also saw that.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, well, speaking of cricket, you know the thing I
was thinking where things can almost go wrong. I was
watching the game of street cricket. They were showing lux
and playing on the news and he was he was
batting and I just sort of thought, you know, everything
could go everything could turn because he was trying to
hit that thing out of the park. It was there
are some kids there, and I thought, all he needs
(15:52):
to do is skew it into someone's head and and
the and the headline is negative. I was like just
just playing cautiously, but was trying.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
To remember Boris Johnson dropping his shoulder and the child
playing that's exactly. Can I just have a big shout
out there. There's a Canterbury company called wind Seed International
and they've been selling into India for about ten years now,
breeding in high quality hybrid vegetable seeds like beetroot, and
(16:22):
that's in the billions.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Now.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Wow, it's like over nine billion seeds they've sold into
India over the past ten years ago, which is like,
I don't know, two three beat root for every Indian
on the continent. So I mean they're are they based
in christ teaching, that's about down in Canterbury, so you
know there, and they're they're making you know, turning over
around one hundred and twenty four million dollars in trade
(16:44):
and things like that with India every year. So I
mean there's some really interesting countries doing things in there,
and it may not be all dairy, but there are
things that we can do to get in there like that.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hey, look we'll take quick Actually, just before we go
to the break, I thought I just mentioned some breaking
news on the boxing front that George Foreman, who famously
fought iconic battle with Mhammad Ali Rumbull in the Jungle,
he's passed away, just passed away of seventy six, as
family announcers have just announced it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
It's he was an extraordinary guy. He was a big
bruisy belt of you know, angry man. He got beaten
by Ali in Zaiea and he just grew to become
such a wonderful, warm of uncular character.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
To six did you say, yes, seventy six years old. Yes,
he passed away. Yeah, he's literally just been recently passed
away and his family has just released a statement. He
was a humanitarian and Olympian, two time heavyweight champion of
the world. For many people, they think, oh, the George
Foreman grill. Yeah, yes, one of those that one of
(17:46):
those one of those one where the fat You have
your steak and you feel like I'm having a steak,
but it's got less fat because it's all run away.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's the one.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
And then you realize the fat's the tasty and you're
not being healthy at all. But I mean, what an
incredible sort of you know, he didn't just thought he
was a legend. Wasn't just boxing Anyway, We're going to
take a quick break. This is news talk said be.
My panel is Mark krysl and never Retty Marnu. I'm
Tim Beverage. It is twenty coming out to twenty five
past three.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's such a good time. Stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
You want to have a good time. I keep wanting
to let the music roll a bit longer because I
do enjoy some of the taste some of the musical
choices of my producer Tyra. So good stuff, Tyro. Let's
keep it coming. Now, Welcome back to the Weekend Collective.
This is the panel Never, Retty Marno are my guests
Mark krysl and as well? Sorry? Did I say never?
Retty Marno are my guests that I make your a plural?
(18:53):
Never and Mark krysl are my guests?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Were they them?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Don't try and don't try and trigg in the text machine? Okay, Hey,
look the New Zealand Defense Force job cuts. They are
restructuring the civilian workforce, which could mean the reduction and
this is not so much people, but the reduction of
three hundred and seventy four rolls after one hundred and
forty four civilian workers opted for voluntary redundancy. I guess
(19:20):
the headline is it looks like they're cutting back on
things in the Defense Force as a result of budgets
and stuff, when probably the vibe around the world is
that we should all be spending more on our defense force.
I think I had an interview on a couple of
days ago about it, and I think the statement that
came out from the Defense Force was it has actually
amounted to about eighty people were going to be gone.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
But anyway, Mark, Yeah, it is on the face of
an odd one and it sounds like, I mean, all
the signs are from Winston being in Washington, and what
the Prime ministers said is that we will be lifting
our contribution in the defense area up to around two
percent of GDP, which is in line with our partners
and still quite a bit below the big guys like
(20:06):
America and Europe. But it does seem odd because a
lot of those people I know are in support roles,
which are just as important quite often as those on the.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Front It means the front line, it means that uniform staff.
I mean, I don't know how that affects their work.
We actually didn't managed to interview from the Defense Force.
They weren't talking apart from their statement.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But yeah, but you know, like every government department, every
department is it's you know, it doesn't surprise me about this,
and I think with the Defense they cannot be left
out of this. They've got to look at it. They've
got to look at it. I mean, this is just
when that when does this the Defense Force of the
capability plan nets coming out. I mean, that'll be interesting.
(20:44):
That's only in a matter of.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Weeks, and they can't be sitting on defense.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
No oh, it was a pun, by the way, that
was very good. Actually, the thing that the sorry why
you delivered it across your leagues looking at me saying, oh,
I only only because ladies, and generally if you're listening,
(21:10):
this is when I do wish it was a televised show,
because the best part of that was Mark's expression of smugness,
like and he was like better to be sitting on defense,
and then the first lips at of like ye. So
maybe we can find the footage for that. We'll sync
it up and then we'll have it. Because we do
(21:30):
have cameras. They're just not turned on. Now you tell me, oh,
no they're not. They're turned on, but they're not. They're
not running, they're not broadcasting because you know, it's just
for special occasions. And Tyra has got the footage now,
so she's gonna, oh, what.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Well, I didn't give my permission for this.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
You're sitting. Look see that camera over there with the
green light. The camera's always on Mark, as is the microphone,
except in the break the mics off behind the scenes information. Now, look,
this is an interesting one. This this question around the
Facebook group. So there's a public Facebook page which connects
flats with flat hunters. It's got over two hundred thousand
(22:10):
plus members. I don't know how many are active. But
one of the admins just was finding it too hard
to keep up with the job, and so they were
going to charge a fee of three dollars per post,
which I think goes against Facebook's policies anyway, So it's problematic.
But instead of withdrawing, that person has just closed down
the page. And it begs a couple of questions about, well,
(22:33):
it's an incredibly successful page. Where will those people go?
Probably they could have set up a website. But the
other side of it, because if you're going to spend
all that time, you probably aren't told to charge us.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
As a stupid story, I think these people are. I
really do. When I read this story, you said we're
going to do this, and I read it and I thought, oh,
for goodness sake, have you got nothing better else to do?
These people shouldn't even be on that of Facebook page,
And I thought, scammers, anything on Facebook is going to
that's where the scammers.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Level that Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Absolutely the hell would give the bank details? Oh yeah,
I mean it's three dollars. And then they came out
I think a day later and said, oh and one
dollar will go to charity.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah, right, not.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Where do charity beginning?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You know what the best, you know what their best
to do their best to say, we're it's we've been.
This is taking up so much time.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
We're closing down.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But if you want to this is our website and
if people want to connect, look, actually finding it's a
useful service.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But everyone's you know, I'm messaging and everyone's like, oh
my god. I thought, well, you know what, just cut
life life.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Life cut through to that. That's I'm with neither.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Actually, I just love the clarity with which you what
did you say? This is just such a stupid story.
How you know that? My producer, Tyre, spends a lot
of time compiling these things, And I'm going to go
out there a box of tissues at halftime because I
think you've heard her feelings. Seriously, have we got tishoes?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I should send stupid story?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I particular people? Yes, there we go, that's better. Yeah,
the damage is done. Look, look, well we were not
taking the break next. I'm just hoping she can. She'll
be all right for the next few minutes until week
in Totavia. Now the reason, by the way, actually no,
I was jumping ahead. So on the politics thing, now,
I don't know what I think. Well, I do know
(24:26):
what I think of this Act getting involved in local politics.
So David Sema wants local councilor wannabes to basically stand
under the party's banner and the October elections. Now, I'll
quickly give my opinion on this and then throw to you.
I don't think this is a bad idea for two reasons.
I don't like central government brand parties being involved with
local government politics for one. And I actually don't think
(24:47):
this is David Seymour's smartest move because all he needs
is one or two dud counselors and they tarnish Act's name.
He's better to kick to stick to his knitting, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well he maybe because they had one or two dud
candidates in the last election. That that when you know,
when you shook the tree, some strange things fell out.
So I think I think one of the things that
David Seymour is very good at is keeping him and
his party in the headlines. And I think this is
another kind of brand recognition move by him, just by
(25:17):
getting people out there so people are talking about it
in the UK, for example, that a lot of the
candidates are aligned to political parties. We've just never done it.
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Good on them, Okay, I just climbing today.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know, only today. If you don't ask, you don't get.
That's why you know.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And good on him.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I think, well, you know what put your people up.
Let's see, and I mean it's a democracy. If you
don't like the personal whatever.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know, when election time comes around, we get those
booklets and this was one thing that people say. You
look at the booklet, you pick it up, you think, okay,
who am I going to vote for? Counselor? And we
I don't know any name recognition?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, no, this is what what do you vote for?
Adam Abel Bill Bauer?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No? Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Shall I get someone a little bit older between? You
read the bios, but then you think, and then you
look at the photos. I think the photos speak more
because then I look at the photos and I think, oh, okay,
I need.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Something judging a book by its cover?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Yes, are you saying you don't? Never?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
What is this chorus of disapproval?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
This is the moral majority?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That's right. Actually, I can I can contract myself on
this because we sort of do have what was it?
There's the sort of right wing conservative candidates are under
citizens and ratepayers, and there is the left wing one,
which is under vision. They've got different names, and we
know one's sort of laid when we know one.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You saw a photo of someone in one of those
booklets at head, really horrible hair, and you know.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Representing us.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
What do you do you look for someone who's got
the blue steel look?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Do you?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Or do you look for someone who looks sort of
like a little bit sort of just and the guy
next door, the gal next door? You know, the Green's
put slightly friendly, The Green's put people up, well, that's
very fun.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
For example, is a Green oh candidate.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
How is that going to play up for this election?
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
What a shame We're not down there?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
What a shame?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
That's what you should just Oh no, that's a dumb idea.
I was going to suggest something I thought was vaguely amusing,
But I'll keep it to myself now because it might
have been a clanger.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Emphasis on the vaguely, let's speak it.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm gonna have to okay, right, I'm going to go.
We have to take a break because I've got to go. Really, yes,
I have to get some tissues and some for Tira.
We'll be jack back in just a moment. I am
Tim Beveridge. This is the Weekend Collective panel. My panelists are.
If you don't recognize their wonderful tones, it's neither ready
Manu and Mark chrys And then we're back in just
a moment. It's twenty two minutes to four to sixty four.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
My love Love's going to leave.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I'm too sexy, shirt, too sexy bomb.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
My shirt so sexy it hurts.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
And I am too sexy form Land, too sexy bomb,
Lan your gander and welcome back to the Weekend Collective.
I actually I did want that song somewhere thrown in
because it's just so much fun and.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Seeing around dancing.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
So it goes like a whole minute of reasons why
white people shouldn't dance.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's what I got.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
God, someone in here has some rhythm.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No video on that one, anyway, I've instructed no video,
she's she's got mischief about it. Today, my producer, our producer. Now,
by the way, welcome back. I'm Tim Beverage, near Bretty, Marno,
Mark kras On my panelists. Now, I mentioned comatawain mischievously
in my introduction for you, Mark, because to me, com
martaware is a word that implies to me not just age,
(29:13):
but respectability and sanity. Yes, and well maybe not so
much beauty, but only in your case, Blue eyed silver Fox.
But the Greens call for Dean Wickliffe to be released,
and actually the story even rady in New Zealand Reporter
it says a comata where such and such as being
assaulted or and I thought, I'm not sure if that's
(29:33):
the word I would apply for Dean Wickliffe. But he's
back in trouble again. He's on a hunger strike, he's
lost more than seventeen seventeen kilos his lawyer and Sykes
told the Herald, what do we reckon? I'm going to
throw to because you've had enough to say, Mark, Well,
let's throw to mind. You're so of you, Neva, no
where you go, nev.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Look the thing is is why is he on this
hunger strike. He wants to be free from parole conditions
because it's resulted him being recalled to prison a number
of times for breaches.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
He's reaching.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
This is about the breaches. That's so I'm thinking, no, yeah,
you stay in there.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
But he's got he's got, he's got parole for his life.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
It never goes away and subject to conditions.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
And I think back inside because last time they led
him out. And this actually happens to lots of prisoners.
And I know this because I've done a bunch of
stories on it. And I agree with Bill English when
he said our prisons are a moral and fiscal failure.
It's because he was living in a car.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He was in the car for one night, though, wasn't he.
I mean, he's got to be at a house.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I think we are spending one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year to keep him in prison. Yeah, And
is that is that? I think good spending money. We'd
be better off spending some money to put him in
the house. He's seventy seven years old, should be really, because.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I don't care if he's seventy seventy.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
It seems a silly law.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
A second hunger strike he's ever done. I mean, he
did this back in the eighties as well. Oh he's
an attention sy cat.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I love it, go for it.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Neither nodiculous. So many of these guys who come out
really struggle to find accommodation. I mean, what's your reference
going to look like for a starter? You know? I
just think, give the guy a break, seventy seven years old.
What's he doing in prison on a hunger strike? Let
him out, pay some accommodation and you'll get a lot
(31:30):
of change out of that.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Disagree, Actually, I don't think with Dean with cleft and I'
getting a lot of change out of.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Him, But I mean changing money.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Parole conditions are parole conditions, And I think if he's
I mean, if he was, I don't know, he was
living in a car or something he had was supposed
to be living in an approved address. And to me,
if I was, if you or I or never were
somehow on parole because we've done something naughty in our life,
hopefully nothing as naughty as killing someone, then we would
probably call our parole officer and say I've been thrown
(31:59):
out of my accommodation or something. I've got a problem.
Can you help me rather than just suiting yourself and.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Saying to the rule the people that for such a
long time, and he has been probably at times our
longest serving prisoner.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Ever most successful escaper too him, Well you know, is
that something I.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Want to know what he threw at the corrections officer
that got that one of them stood down because they
did look like they give him quite a tickle up
by the look of it. Anyways, Look, but I just
love to see you because I don't like it when
you always agree. I like to see you fighting.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We can, but we do love each other.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I mean, that's the beautiful thing. Two people can have
different opinions.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yes, actually, still my favorite story about the Greens was
Tammotha Paul's TikTok video, where you see I'm having a
meeting with pea section or Tatarhi or something, and we're
going to talk about the abolition of the police force. Seriously,
she's talking about abolition to the police force. And what's
the alternative. I think it's called crime and lawlessness and chaos.
But anyway, I love that doesn't really get the headlines
(33:02):
that deserves pats. Imagine if David Seymour one of his troops.
It says we're thinking about abolishing the police. One news
would be banging on it for about a week, wouldn't they. Anyway,
there's my cheap shot there.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Got off his chess.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I've got it off your chest?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Well, I think I mentioned it because I think people
should know that. I wonder if the Greens get held
to a lower standard sometimes because they do say some
pretty silly stuff and it just sort of gets gloredous.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Being I don't think any party has any mortgage or
not saying silly stuff.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah, but no, No, they're capable of saying it. But
how much focus gets put on them when they do
say it it varies.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
It does.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Look at your face, I'm relaxed.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Look, actually, okay, we'll roll the tape on this one.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Don't make him dance.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Don't make him dance please, Okay, right, Look, here's a
nice isn't an interesting story? But that a time caps
You're buried twenty five years ago during a bathroom renovation
has been on earth, with the discovering coming on the
anniversary of the death of the father who hid it. There, Gosh,
that would be sort of a confirmed that it contains
photos and letters from local teachers. That's their three children
(34:06):
and everything. I mean, he hit it rather well. I
mean you'd think when you've.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Heard twenty five years ago.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yeah, and if it's only OnEarth during a bathroom renovation,
I mean, it could have been there for a hell
of a lot longer, didn't it or did he cleverly think, God,
you've got to renovate every I love this.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I think it's you know, the timing was perfect emotional
and you know, like having reading all those letters from
the children when the children were young. I think that's
something that they can hold on to and it's their
lovely memories. I mean, have you guys got a time
capt sure, would you bet it with your family?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
No? But it was a lovely story. My daughter got
her grandfather passed away, and about six months after he
passed away, we got a parcel that he'd sent to her,
but he'd sent it to the wrong address, and it
was a very special little book that he'd picked out
for her as a story about Picasso and she loves arts.
(34:57):
It is a kid's book and there was his handwritten
in there. And it came about six months after because
the address was wrong and they finally found us, but
it was it was such a beautiful thing, and just
that he had been so thoughtful to think about her
and after the you know, the grief of losing someone
close to you and then to understand something like that.
It's one of those tangible.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
What it reminds. It also reminds me of how these days,
so many I mean, I'm not sure if we are
preserving memories in the digital age because there's so much
you know, people don't write letters. I've still got the
letters my mom, Mom, I've got all the letters my
mum and dad wrote to me in the first year
or two when I was at university.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
But know there was shiny shoes.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
There was a funny one I can I will share
this with you, Mum. I don't ever recall Mom ever
talking about sex in front of me. Sex and when
we were One of the letters I still remember she
wrote it was back in the time when when you know,
there was some sort of sexually. I think it aids
was really the big story of the day. And she
(36:02):
wrote and she said, among other things, she is like,
you know such and such with your father and I
have been doing this and your brother was over for
over for dinner on the weekend, and we watched you know,
such and such had the dog tanged event. By the way,
we watched a she didn't say, by the way, that's right.
We had dinner. We watched a documentary about AIDS. Makes
you realize the dangers of casual sex. The weather's been great,
(36:26):
it's not funny. Just out of all those letters, and
I just remember I read it and just went, what, oh,
that's beautiful. She's telling me to Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh, that's so lovely.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You couldn't bring us ouf to this, you know that phone,
just the little sentence in there, which she might as
well have written it in vivid marker. Anyway, I kept.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
All the birthday cards that my mother sent me. But
oh my gosh, it's a spelling mistakes, typical media person,
you know, like when I read them back and okay,
frip and eggs. The only thing she spelt right was
my name.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You don't have to spell properly when you're on radio.
You just have to pronounce the words properly, don't you.
That's right, exactly right.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
We're got to take a break. Be back in just
a moment. My guests are Neva retty Mano and Mark Kreisel.
I'm Tim Beveridge. This is the week in Collective Panel
at ten minutes to four. Yes, welcome back to News
Talk to Be. This is the panel and Never retty
Mano and Mark Kreisel are my guests and guys. The
final race at Western Springs. What an end of an
era for that venue. So the engines are going to roar,
the fans are going to gather together for one night
(37:29):
of high speed spectacle. For many people, Western Springs was
the venue for them when they saw some amazing concerts.
And that's what I think of more with Western Springs,
of course, you know, because that's what I went to
sea concerts there. What about you, Mark, What do you remember.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Our concerts When I was growing up in New Plymouth.
We came up, we saw Bob Marley, Oh, which was amazing.
We bunked off school and David Bowie the biggest concert
ever in New Zealand. Eighty thousand people crammed into the
nineteen eg three. And then another one I really remember
(38:03):
is the first time Bruce Springsteen played here. And he
played at Western Springs really yeah, and it was pouring
with rain, absolutely pouring with rain, and and you know
that there was muddy and people were saturated. And he
came on and his first song he sang, is who
will Stopped the rain? By clear Water? Revive It and
(38:23):
the rain stopped?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh yeah, that's fantastic memories.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Yeah, special memories.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
You really do. I love your Your memories are way
better than mine.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Come on, let's hear.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I've only been to one concert and it wasn't even
though there were no big names. It was just one
of those local summer singings and I was only there
for an hour and I thought, oh, this sucks, but
I got a free ticket and it was I can't
even tell you who was singing because it was you know,
they weren't. It wasn't major, It wasn't a big big
names or anything.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Just talking about redeveloping it for a stadium. I think, yes,
I saw that. That's people behind.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Yeah, and paddleball and basketball.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Hasn't Brian Ally Williams or something whole a bunch of it?
Speaker 6 (39:08):
So have you performed there?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Not at Western Springs?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
No?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
No, I mean enough. Oh you know, you know, don't
get him. Bob Marley wanted me to to Bob Marley
wanted me to be opening act, but I was like,
you know, it just didn't work out my schedule wise
and age wise too. It's probably only about five. I
don't know anyway, Hey guys, thank you so much for
(39:33):
coming on the show today. Mark. When do you find
out about these whether you're shortlist, didn't get the trip
trip to where is it Morocco, Morocco?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Robert in Morocca. I don't know. Hopefully you know, within
the next few months. It'd be amazing. I mean, I
you know, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You've got two chances though, because you've got two intries.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
And you're into you've got to be into win.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
So it got to be a nice feeling to tell
everything that happened last year. That to know that your
stories were strong at the end and that you remembered
what you did.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Great to see than what you said and Nieves so
lovely to see, Thank you so much one of our
What have you got planned for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, I'm going to go home and enjoy this lovely sunshine.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Isn't it gorgeous?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
The weather?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Can I say what an aspect of privilege it is
to be on the radio with the Queen of the
Way stupid amazing, the.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Voice of news absolutely well. Good to have you both
and well anyway, we're back with a new guest, Melissa
Greeno as an interior designer. Wonder Roof Radio show will
be taking your cause and giving you a bit of
advice if you like it, whether or whether or not.
Back soon.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
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