June 19, 2024 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason Sam Hi,
thanks for listening to our Breakfast Bonus podcast. Today, we're
talking to magician Constantino. You may have seen him on
his TV specials. He's bringing his stage show to New Zealand.
We're caught up with him and asked him, what can
you expect from these shows?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I always expect the unexpected. That doesn't give you much information,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's a sticker though.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, no, because it's interesting because people always they see
the show and then they say, oh, it's not what
I expect them. I said, well, what did you expect?
Then it's a magic show. So when I say that,
I guess you think magic tricks and things appearing and
disappearing true. And then there's a lot of audience participation.
There's his crazy death defying escapes. There's very immersive, interactive,
it's a little it's quite funny.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Usually when you talk about these dittifying stunts. Right now,
this is what always blows my mind about magicians such
as yourself and these illusionists. When you rehearse those there's
clearly got to be a point where this could go wrong.
I haven't done this before. What goes through your mind?
That what makes you think I'm going to get that
a go?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah. When I film my TV shows, it's usually a
one off. You're doing it just for the TV, and
that's when it goes wrong because you haven't really rehearsed it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Time frames for TV are ridiculous. Everything's squeezed into this
short amount of time to practice and rehearse. And what
goes through my mind, I'm thinking I need more time.
That's usually what's going through my mind. But no, when
you do the escapes, you can't you can't think in
your head, oh, it's going to go wrong. You can't
have that attitude of oh, this knife is going to
(01:29):
come directly at me and that's going to be under
my career. If you think like that, you're not going
to do it. You're going to get into it. Now.
I have a team around me, and it's a calculated risk.
It's the same way that you guys bungee jump like
it's you don't it's you plan for it, but things
can go wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
There's a rest.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There are always rest and when you do it every night,
or if you're doing it for a one off, special
and you haven't kind of ironed out everything it can be.
And that's why I've been cut by knives.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And well, if you do it every night, that's when
you become complacent. People always closer to their own home.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Correct that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
True?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Do you know what I'd like to know is what
sits you apart? Because you know, I'm sure a lot
of people would want to do what you're doing for
their living, and you are so successful at it, You're
selling out places around the world. So what do you
think it is that you've got that some people don't?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So looks, look at the face on them, look at
its beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't know what the what sets it now? Look,
it's hard for me to say that. It's hard to
step back and look at it. It's a good question.
I think it's a it's a lot of things that
have to work together. First off, I broke through over
ten years ago on a show called Australia's Got Talent,
but I'd been working at it fifteen years prior to
(02:42):
Australia's Got Talent. And when I mean working, and I
don't mean like dabbling in my bedroom, I mean like
getting out there and traveling on the road and putting
on shows and putting bums in seats and selling tickets
and hustling and rejection rejection and sending out vhs videotapes,
old old school, you know, I'm thirteen four, two years old,
sending out these tapes and rejection, rejection, rejection, and flying
(03:03):
to the States and blah blah blah blah, on and on.
You noticing dragging it on. It was fifteen years. Everyone
over like, yes, but there's no such thing. So that's
the first thing, the real hustle. By the time I
got my breakelets call it, I had already been doing
my own theater shows, designing my own posters, knew how
to talk on radio. I've done it. I've done it all, literally,
just at a level that I wasn't really happy with,
(03:25):
you know, because I was trying to build up to it.
But I'd already done it all. So when I got
the break, I could literally just ride it all the
way through. And that's and then I got my first
TV special and it kind of so that's how it happened.
Through the hard work. And then in my show, there's
a combination of the slide of hand, close up magic,
the escapes, the illusions, and I think what separates it
really is the showmanship and the presentation, because anyone can
(03:48):
learn a magic trick, but not everyone can make it
look like magic. Yeah, yeah, sure, And I think that's
the big difference.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So what is the magic for you? Then? What is
driving you to continue doing this? Is it the reaction
of the crowd when you're doing a big show or
is it the construction of developing those tricks and making
like I've nailed it now that's gonna work. Like is it?
Is it the development of the show or is it
the reactions?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's just a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And you want to make that disappear.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So let me answer these guys that know, no, it is.
It's a couple of things. Well, first off, to be honest,
if I'm being really honest about it, to be able
to turn my hobby, my passion, my craft into a
profession and make a living off it, that's a really
beautiful thing. So I make fun of it. I make
fun of it, but that's actually truely to been able
(04:40):
to make a living off it, it is the creative process.
I really do enjoy coming up with ideas and testing
things out, and you know, tweaking a word and rearranging
it and going, oh that really hit. That really worked
the same way comedian would do that. And then it's
the reaction from the audience and you're bringing you're bringing joy.
And when my father's structural engineer, my mother's school prints, well,
my brothers an engineer, you know, and I get to
(05:03):
talk on radio about my show and you guys asking
it's a pretty you gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Have a lot of great but you cloned up the
family structure of it. Oh god, he's going nowhere with us.
And then all of a sudden you're a server star
from the bottom to the top of the family.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Hustle. Must have come from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, true, it's very very true. It is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So there's a great nationwide to happen a little later
on this year, November and December. The details you gotta
endeavor live fors least Constantino. But again, if you google Constantino,
New Zealand dates, you'll find it just there as well.
Because you're really good at all this. Obviously you made
a bit of living out of it, bit of a
TV show. You have heard the name. Is it possible
because your cameras in the studio. Now, is it possible
to do a little trick in front of us?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I can? I can?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that all right?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'm going to take off my headoids and you guys
can describe what's happening a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Commentation.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I got to stand up and get into it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Why do you do your things?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Sure, falls away from his chair, pulls his headphones off.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm gonna grab my very cute looking but dazzled back pep.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Now there's a pack of cards and a sharpie on
the table. Now when I look at that sharpie, I
see a black lid and and and and a red
line around it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, can you can you help me? Don't sure?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So if you need hands, all that's gonna be on
socials at Coast Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, all the cards are different. It's important, you know,
it doesn't even matter because you're just going to select
to take one any card you like. Okay, the Ace
of Diamonds. Great, So take the pen, write your name,
sign your name on it, your name on it, and
then we'll get it on camera.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Done it, bag taken away.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Tony always says, that's not a signature, that's an autograph.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I love that. So there it is Ace of Diamonds,
great card with Tony's name on it. Perfect. So Tony, Tony,
you're going to take your card and you're going to
just hold it like that. Don't do anything else to
cup it like that so everyone can can you explain?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Card has been folded? Tony's holding to four in her
pincers between her thumb and her index finger.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's it, okay. And I've just taken the top card,
the next card above, okay, and I'll do what is mine,
six of Spades, and I've done the exact same thing.
My name. Yeah, So I've got the Six of Spades
and it's got my name, my signature on it, and
you've got the Ace of Diamonds.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Has folded the card and is holding it in his pincers.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And my.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
All right, are you well okay with all COVID and everything,
you're not?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah? Hit me?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay? Do you want to just bite the card? Okay? Great? Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They're both and they've got them in their Mouths is
approaching Tony like he's going to do some kind of
card exchange. It looks like he is doing a proposal
at the stage and they're working towards each other like
they're going to go for a kiss. And and now
he's effectively whipped pistol, whipped Tony's card with Constantino's card
(08:08):
over the top.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There did not take my cargo, no worry.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
And he's moved away. It's impossible the card in Tony's
mouth has switched to Constantino's card.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was biting hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I promised.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There's no way you took that out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How on earth is slight of tongue?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yes, he just.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's remarkable.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'm not only remarkable, kind of romantic at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's a bit early for that, but I thought close
and personal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I have no idea how you did that because I
was across that whole thing and I was biting hard.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know how.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Computed it was.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It reminded me of when I was a kid at
high school playing past the record. But we did it
with our butt cheeks.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I've done that. Maybe that would been inappropriate. Is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Wow again, watch even watch it in slow motion at
Coast Breakfast on Instagram and Facebook. You won't even be
able to figure it out. Constantino, Thank you for everything,
Good luck for the tour pleasure. Thank you for having me,
Thanks for listening to the Coast Breakfast Bonus podcast, Get
your day started with Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street,
Jays Reeves, and Sam Wallace.
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason Sam Hi,
thanks for listening to our Breakfast Bonus podcast. Today, we're
talking to magician Constantino. You may have seen him on
his TV specials. He's bringing his stage show to New Zealand.
We're caught up with him and asked him, what can
you expect from these shows?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I always expect the unexpected. That doesn't give you much information,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's a sticker though.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, no, because it's interesting because people always they see
the show and then they say, oh, it's not what
I expect them. I said, well, what did you expect?
Then it's a magic show. So when I say that,
I guess you think magic tricks and things appearing and
disappearing true. And then there's a lot of audience participation.
There's his crazy death defying escapes. There's very immersive, interactive,
it's a little it's quite funny.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Usually when you talk about these dittifying stunts. Right now,
this is what always blows my mind about magicians such
as yourself and these illusionists. When you rehearse those there's
clearly got to be a point where this could go wrong.
I haven't done this before. What goes through your mind?
That what makes you think I'm going to get that
a go?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah. When I film my TV shows, it's usually a
one off. You're doing it just for the TV, and
that's when it goes wrong because you haven't really rehearsed it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Time frames for TV are ridiculous. Everything's squeezed into this
short amount of time to practice and rehearse. And what
goes through my mind, I'm thinking I need more time.
That's usually what's going through my mind. But no, when
you do the escapes, you can't you can't think in
your head, oh, it's going to go wrong. You can't
have that attitude of oh, this knife is going to
(01:29):
come directly at me and that's going to be under
my career. If you think like that, you're not going
to do it. You're going to get into it. Now.
I have a team around me, and it's a calculated risk.
It's the same way that you guys bungee jump like
it's you don't it's you plan for it, but things
can go wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
There's a rest.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There are always rest and when you do it every night,
or if you're doing it for a one off, special
and you haven't kind of ironed out everything it can be.
And that's why I've been cut by knives.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And well, if you do it every night, that's when
you become complacent. People always closer to their own home.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Correct that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
True?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Do you know what I'd like to know is what
sits you apart? Because you know, I'm sure a lot
of people would want to do what you're doing for
their living, and you are so successful at it, You're
selling out places around the world. So what do you
think it is that you've got that some people don't?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So looks, look at the face on them, look at
its beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't know what the what sets it now? Look,
it's hard for me to say that. It's hard to
step back and look at it. It's a good question.
I think it's a it's a lot of things that
have to work together. First off, I broke through over
ten years ago on a show called Australia's Got Talent,
but I'd been working at it fifteen years prior to
(02:42):
Australia's Got Talent. And when I mean working, and I
don't mean like dabbling in my bedroom, I mean like
getting out there and traveling on the road and putting
on shows and putting bums in seats and selling tickets
and hustling and rejection rejection and sending out vhs videotapes,
old old school, you know, I'm thirteen four, two years old,
sending out these tapes and rejection, rejection, rejection, and flying
(03:03):
to the States and blah blah blah blah, on and on.
You noticing dragging it on. It was fifteen years. Everyone
over like, yes, but there's no such thing. So that's
the first thing, the real hustle. By the time I
got my breakelets call it, I had already been doing
my own theater shows, designing my own posters, knew how
to talk on radio. I've done it. I've done it all, literally,
just at a level that I wasn't really happy with,
(03:25):
you know, because I was trying to build up to it.
But I'd already done it all. So when I got
the break, I could literally just ride it all the
way through. And that's and then I got my first
TV special and it kind of so that's how it happened.
Through the hard work. And then in my show, there's
a combination of the slide of hand, close up magic,
the escapes, the illusions, and I think what separates it
really is the showmanship and the presentation, because anyone can
(03:48):
learn a magic trick, but not everyone can make it
look like magic. Yeah, yeah, sure, And I think that's
the big difference.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So what is the magic for you? Then? What is
driving you to continue doing this? Is it the reaction
of the crowd when you're doing a big show or
is it the construction of developing those tricks and making
like I've nailed it now that's gonna work. Like is it?
Is it the development of the show or is it
the reactions?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's just a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And you want to make that disappear.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So let me answer these guys that know, no, it is.
It's a couple of things. Well, first off, to be honest,
if I'm being really honest about it, to be able
to turn my hobby, my passion, my craft into a
profession and make a living off it, that's a really
beautiful thing. So I make fun of it. I make
fun of it, but that's actually truely to been able
(04:40):
to make a living off it, it is the creative process.
I really do enjoy coming up with ideas and testing
things out, and you know, tweaking a word and rearranging
it and going, oh that really hit. That really worked
the same way comedian would do that. And then it's
the reaction from the audience and you're bringing you're bringing joy.
And when my father's structural engineer, my mother's school prints, well,
my brothers an engineer, you know, and I get to
(05:03):
talk on radio about my show and you guys asking
it's a pretty you gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Have a lot of great but you cloned up the
family structure of it. Oh god, he's going nowhere with us.
And then all of a sudden you're a server star
from the bottom to the top of the family.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Hustle. Must have come from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, true, it's very very true. It is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So there's a great nationwide to happen a little later
on this year, November and December. The details you gotta
endeavor live fors least Constantino. But again, if you google Constantino,
New Zealand dates, you'll find it just there as well.
Because you're really good at all this. Obviously you made
a bit of living out of it, bit of a
TV show. You have heard the name. Is it possible
because your cameras in the studio. Now, is it possible
to do a little trick in front of us?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I can? I can?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that all right?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'm going to take off my headoids and you guys
can describe what's happening a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Commentation.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I got to stand up and get into it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Why do you do your things?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Sure, falls away from his chair, pulls his headphones off.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm gonna grab my very cute looking but dazzled back pep.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Now there's a pack of cards and a sharpie on
the table. Now when I look at that sharpie, I
see a black lid and and and and a red
line around it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, can you can you help me? Don't sure?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So if you need hands, all that's gonna be on
socials at Coast Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, all the cards are different. It's important, you know,
it doesn't even matter because you're just going to select
to take one any card you like. Okay, the Ace
of Diamonds. Great, So take the pen, write your name,
sign your name on it, your name on it, and
then we'll get it on camera.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Done it, bag taken away.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Tony always says, that's not a signature, that's an autograph.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I love that. So there it is Ace of Diamonds,
great card with Tony's name on it. Perfect. So Tony, Tony,
you're going to take your card and you're going to
just hold it like that. Don't do anything else to
cup it like that so everyone can can you explain?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Card has been folded? Tony's holding to four in her
pincers between her thumb and her index finger.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's it, okay. And I've just taken the top card,
the next card above, okay, and I'll do what is mine,
six of Spades, and I've done the exact same thing.
My name. Yeah, So I've got the Six of Spades
and it's got my name, my signature on it, and
you've got the Ace of Diamonds.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Has folded the card and is holding it in his pincers.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And my.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
All right, are you well okay with all COVID and everything,
you're not?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah? Hit me?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay? Do you want to just bite the card? Okay? Great? Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They're both and they've got them in their Mouths is
approaching Tony like he's going to do some kind of
card exchange. It looks like he is doing a proposal
at the stage and they're working towards each other like
they're going to go for a kiss. And and now
he's effectively whipped pistol, whipped Tony's card with Constantino's card
(08:08):
over the top.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There did not take my cargo, no worry.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
And he's moved away. It's impossible the card in Tony's
mouth has switched to Constantino's card.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was biting hard.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I promised.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There's no way you took that out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How on earth is slight of tongue?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yes, he just.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's remarkable.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'm not only remarkable, kind of romantic at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's a bit early for that, but I thought close
and personal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I have no idea how you did that because I
was across that whole thing and I was biting hard.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know how.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Computed it was.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
It reminded me of when I was a kid at
high school playing past the record. But we did it
with our butt cheeks.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I've done that. Maybe that would been inappropriate. Is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Wow again, watch even watch it in slow motion at
Coast Breakfast on Instagram and Facebook. You won't even be
able to figure it out. Constantino, Thank you for everything,
Good luck for the tour pleasure. Thank you for having me,
Thanks for listening to the Coast Breakfast Bonus podcast, Get
your day started with Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street,
Jays Reeves, and Sam Wallace.
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