November 5, 2024 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason Sam.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, thanks for listening to our Breakfast Bonus podcast today.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're talking about, and you may have seen this in
the news as well, recruiters who come out saying that
gen Z demands or gen z demands are ridiculous. When
they're going to the workplace, they want to go, I
want to work from home, please, and I want a
six figure salary, And these recruiters are saying, hold, and
you need a bit of life experience first before you
start working from home.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I just think the needs of the young people have changed.
The modern world has changed, and I don't think employers'
perceptions have changed with that.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah maybe right, maybe I think who's the arrogant one here?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I just think it's holding on to the status quo
and the long held view that that's more productive. And
I just don't know if there's a case anymore.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, because I think I think the young people are
fairly desensitized, you know what I mean, Like de incentivized
is what I'm trying to say about.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think we're pretty sensitive, yeah, the sensitive, but d incentivized,
like imagine.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Coming to the workforce as a twenty year old right
now and going, man, I'd love to own my own home.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
How you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So, at what point does your priority in your life
become your work to get ahead when it's so de
incentivized it's impossible to own a new home or you know,
to start a new business.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's it's it's monumentally large.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Now. I do think there is also a sense of
entitlement totally. It's like, I don't know, it's never ever
crossed my mind not to work hard and to be
thankful for having.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
A job, the attitude of what can I do to
serve you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
But I think I think that may be when when
I started in the industry, that's how it was changing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's because there was a pathway, there was a pathway
to success.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Well, I think there's multiple path pathways for young people now.
I think that's the problem. There's so much choice.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's just harder to see the end result on how
you can actually succeed. That's that's my opinion. I just think,
how do you get a hit in this world?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, they're saying this, they're saying that gin z arrogant
expectations are leaving a bad taste in bosses mouths. They're
pushing for work life balance. I don't see that's a
bad thing. Work life balance is so important. Push for that, well,
they need it.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's exactly back to my point that they are prioritizing
their life because their work is not going to provide
them what they need in their life.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Felt we're still at dinosaurs at the top of these businesses.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
But who don't understand that if someone is has a
work life happy balance, they're least likely to leave their job,
that's more likely not to resident their workplace.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
But here's the really good news for young people is
that there's so many established businesses that no longer know
how to fit into this world and of marketing via
social media and setting up websites and graphic design and
getting an audience. And these young people know that stuff.
So the sooner we work out how to incorporate them
and use them for their skills, that's yeah, And that
(02:42):
means there will be business opportunities. You're taking over these
wonderful companies and culture.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's not just how you market the business and the
social media side of things, it's actually as a human
being because I mean, I think there's still a lot
of people in the workplace, and maybe I'm being a
little bit age just as well. But the older generation like, no,
you come here to work, you're here to make friends,
you here to work, whereas other people are like, well,
hold on, as you need a bit of I want
to enjoy myself at work.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yes, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, they don't. It's a two way street.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
People. These young people have these expectations, but the sooner
you kind of play it to their way and start
using their skills, the better off these kind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of aging businesses will be totally.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And that's why it's a great argument, because we need
we need to understand where young people are coming from,
and older people need to and the younger people also
need to kind of work towards setting their value set
in the same a similar place to their employers.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, but I think you know, one of the things
in the article says that they're asking for six figure jobs,
So I'm not going to get out a bid for
less than one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Don't get out of bed and see how that works
out for you.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
If there's that too exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Obviously there's a catchment or a fallback option that's too easy.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's it make it too easy.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Otherwise you just do it because you know you're not going.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
To eat, or it's easy to say our, well you
a job.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, you know, I guess it's a little bit of
reluctance even try, but a play self perhaps. But also
let's not forget the cost of living is a lot
higher now the world it used to be, so.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
You kind of do need six figures a lot more
money than used to do. What's driven up the cost
of living, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The price of everything, including labor.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Again, also New Zealand's exclusion from the rest of the world. Right,
we're a long way away, and that is what drives
it up to I still.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Think there's a there's a massive role here for beginner jobs.
And you know, when you start paying beginner jobs intermediate salaries,
you strike a problem because it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Takes away the expion but also.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Just goes infinitely higher. It's not the same incline.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But also no one will do those jobs entry level job.
We're paying entrylevel money.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Because of what Tony said, though they don't want to
do the entry level jobs. Because there is a better option,
and that is I don't need to I don't need
to work my ass off because at the worst case scenario,
I'm still getting one thousand bucks a week.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So who's more arrogant? Here the job seekers all the employers.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It's a middle ground.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I think they're both claimed.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We need to work together.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I think the systems at fault.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The system's broken.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Thanks for listening to a Coast Breakfast bonus podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Get your day started with
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street, Jason Reeves and Sam Wallace.
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason Sam.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, thanks for listening to our Breakfast Bonus podcast today.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're talking about, and you may have seen this in
the news as well, recruiters who come out saying that
gen Z demands or gen z demands are ridiculous. When
they're going to the workplace, they want to go, I
want to work from home, please, and I want a
six figure salary, And these recruiters are saying, hold, and
you need a bit of life experience first before you
start working from home.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I just think the needs of the young people have changed.
The modern world has changed, and I don't think employers'
perceptions have changed with that.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah maybe right, maybe I think who's the arrogant one here?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I just think it's holding on to the status quo
and the long held view that that's more productive. And
I just don't know if there's a case anymore.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, because I think I think the young people are
fairly desensitized, you know what I mean, Like de incentivized
is what I'm trying to say about.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think we're pretty sensitive, yeah, the sensitive, but d incentivized,
like imagine.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Coming to the workforce as a twenty year old right
now and going, man, I'd love to own my own home.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
How you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So, at what point does your priority in your life
become your work to get ahead when it's so de
incentivized it's impossible to own a new home or you know,
to start a new business.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's it's it's monumentally large.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Now. I do think there is also a sense of
entitlement totally. It's like, I don't know, it's never ever
crossed my mind not to work hard and to be
thankful for having.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
A job, the attitude of what can I do to
serve you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
But I think I think that may be when when
I started in the industry, that's how it was changing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's because there was a pathway, there was a pathway
to success.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Well, I think there's multiple path pathways for young people now.
I think that's the problem. There's so much choice.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's just harder to see the end result on how
you can actually succeed. That's that's my opinion. I just think,
how do you get a hit in this world?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, they're saying this, they're saying that gin z arrogant
expectations are leaving a bad taste in bosses mouths. They're
pushing for work life balance. I don't see that's a
bad thing. Work life balance is so important. Push for that, well,
they need it.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's exactly back to my point that they are prioritizing
their life because their work is not going to provide
them what they need in their life.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Felt we're still at dinosaurs at the top of these businesses.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
But who don't understand that if someone is has a
work life happy balance, they're least likely to leave their job,
that's more likely not to resident their workplace.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
But here's the really good news for young people is
that there's so many established businesses that no longer know
how to fit into this world and of marketing via
social media and setting up websites and graphic design and
getting an audience. And these young people know that stuff.
So the sooner we work out how to incorporate them
and use them for their skills, that's yeah, And that
(02:42):
means there will be business opportunities. You're taking over these
wonderful companies and culture.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's not just how you market the business and the
social media side of things, it's actually as a human
being because I mean, I think there's still a lot
of people in the workplace, and maybe I'm being a
little bit age just as well. But the older generation like, no,
you come here to work, you're here to make friends,
you here to work, whereas other people are like, well,
hold on, as you need a bit of I want
to enjoy myself at work.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yes, it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, they don't. It's a two way street.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
People. These young people have these expectations, but the sooner
you kind of play it to their way and start
using their skills, the better off these kind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of aging businesses will be totally.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And that's why it's a great argument, because we need
we need to understand where young people are coming from,
and older people need to and the younger people also
need to kind of work towards setting their value set
in the same a similar place to their employers.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, but I think you know, one of the things
in the article says that they're asking for six figure jobs,
So I'm not going to get out a bid for
less than one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Don't get out of bed and see how that works
out for you.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
If there's that too exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Obviously there's a catchment or a fallback option that's too easy.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's it make it too easy.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Otherwise you just do it because you know you're not going.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
To eat, or it's easy to say our, well you
a job.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, you know, I guess it's a little bit of
reluctance even try, but a play self perhaps. But also
let's not forget the cost of living is a lot
higher now the world it used to be, so.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
You kind of do need six figures a lot more
money than used to do. What's driven up the cost
of living, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
The price of everything, including labor.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Again, also New Zealand's exclusion from the rest of the world. Right,
we're a long way away, and that is what drives
it up to I still.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Think there's a there's a massive role here for beginner jobs.
And you know, when you start paying beginner jobs intermediate salaries,
you strike a problem because it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Takes away the expion but also.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Just goes infinitely higher. It's not the same incline.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But also no one will do those jobs entry level job.
We're paying entrylevel money.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Because of what Tony said, though they don't want to
do the entry level jobs. Because there is a better option,
and that is I don't need to I don't need
to work my ass off because at the worst case scenario,
I'm still getting one thousand bucks a week.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So who's more arrogant? Here the job seekers all the employers.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It's a middle ground.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I think they're both claimed.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We need to work together.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I think the systems at fault.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The system's broken.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Thanks for listening to a Coast Breakfast bonus podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Get your day started with
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street, Jason Reeves and Sam Wallace.
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