December 20, 2025 • 11 mins
Sports Journalist Andrew Alderson provided two live updates from the Bay Oval in Mount Maunganui about the West Indies vs. Black Caps test.
He chatted to Jason Pine about Conway's performance, what approach the West Indies will implement and the likelihood of a win, Jacob Duffy's contributions to the test, and Ajaz Patel's performance.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Z'B fourteen away from One Bay Oval and Mount Monganou
in New Zealand twenty five without loss in their second
innings a lead of one hundred and eighty after bowling
the West Indies out this morning in their first innings
for four hundred and twenty. Andrew Orderson is our man.
Then Mount Monganui. Before we talk about what might be
set in terms of a total orders, tell us about
the New Zealand bowling effort today to snare those last
(00:33):
four West Indies wickets fairly quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Grettings finey, yes, So I thought, well, some of the
highlights probably Jacob Duffy, who's really taken on this spearhead
roll with the attack if you like, and ending up
with what four for eighty six and his thirty five
overs for coming and giving a couple of quick clickings
so early. And then I just Betell was able to
get one Michael Ray another to wrap it up. But
(00:57):
I think Stuffy's just ended that venom. I suppose it
was needed and in a bit of impetus to move
their innings on just from a Western News perspective shape
hope coming to the wicket, tottering to the wicket if
you like. After this food poisoning bout I was only
able to add four before hooking and it was caught
by Zach Folks at a fine leg. But I think
(01:17):
if you're looking ahead in this Test match, promising science
news end have been three four, one hundred and thirteen
from forty one overs as Pattel has left arm orthodox
and the pitch at the mount end or at least
Hotel bowling from the city end towards the mount end
starting to break up now and some variable bouncy here,
(01:39):
a couple of popping couple keeping low, and I think
that bodes well for New Zealand's chances of bowling in
that four ginnings.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's a small example size only five previous Test matches
at bay Over the highest fourth innings total there is
two seventy one all out by Pakistan in late twenty
twenty the summer of twenty twenty one. What should New
Zealand look to set.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well? Look, I think it's almost the time factor Piney.
To be honest, I would think they will want at
least three and a half sessions at the West Indies
given it's meant to be fine with the tomorrow, so
I'm thinking they'd probably have an hour at the West
Indies tonight and if they go to a decent tempo
they should be able to they get another couple of
hundred from here, they'd have three eighty at least. That
(02:20):
would actually be well enough just from what you say
there with fourth in things chases and small sample sizes,
but it might be enough of a hint or a
bit of sort of a whiff or a cent for
the West Indians as well, given how well they have
battered over the course of this tour. So I would
think it's more the time based scenario.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Could the West Indies win this teast match, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Think they could. It might depend on Shay Hope's well
being or his sickness or from having overcome this food poisoning,
or you think about what Justin Graves has achieved over
the course of the series as well, with certainly some
pluck in that West Indies lineup. So that's why I
think the black Caps have want to be well assured
(03:03):
of what they have but on the board, and if
you're be able to get these runs, I mean open
it was pretty solid so far as they saw as
they were able to produce them the first thing twenty
five without Moss, Conway and Lake and Conway seventeen late
and five and I think I'll just keep on in
that manner in the next three while hitting to lunch.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And I know you have to do some lunch filing
for our ZB network, but can you just talk a
little bit about ajs pttel eighty five wickets off? Sure,
he finally got one on home sal yesterday dded another couple.
He must have been pretty pleased, was he to break
that duck of home wickets?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, I think the smile said at all at the
press conference after they's play. That's the sure for as Betel.
I mean, he's been waiting for that one for some
time and it was a real anomaly, wasn't it, just
given what he has achieved overseas and in buying New
Zealand to that Test victory in Mumbai, but also of
course with the fourteen wickets in the other game there
with in the ten for one hundred and ninety. But
(04:02):
he was just I think it had been praying on
his mind fall on time and that was just great
to semb able to actually achieve that that goal, and
I think it's unshackled them. But two and he's taken
three in the first things here, and I expect a
lot more from in the second things as well. I
think he's got them and it's sort of playing into
his strengths if you like with it, breaking.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Up orders off to other duties for you. Thanks mate
as always for joining us. We'll get you in a
couple of hours. As well as New Zealand continue to
build a lead in their second innings there twenty five
without loss or just being played through the covers, which
might reach the band of twenty nine without loss. Lay
them on five Conway, who seems to have rediscovered some
of his best forms now unbeaten on twenty one. New
(04:43):
Zealand twenty nine without loss. This is in their second innings,
of course, really impressive to get through the West Indies
for four hundred and twenty in double quick time this
morning to give themselves, as Andrews said, the most time
to set a total. So as I say, there haven't
been that many test matches at bay Oval, this is
only the sixth one and in that time clearly there
(05:06):
I've only been I don't think in fact all four
all success having gone to a fourth inning. So like
I say, Pakistan may two seventy one there in the
fourth innings in the summer of twenty twenty twenty twenty one,
as Andrew said, if New Zealand can bat through to
let's say tea or just after, they should have a
healthy lead. They lead by one to eighty four at
(05:26):
the moment, another couple of one hundred, be close to
four hundred. That should be more than enough, more than enough,
and give them what a little bit of the last
session today and all of tomorrow to try and bowl
the West and he's out eight away from one. News
Talk said, be coming up fourteen away from three. Let's
get you back to bay Oval. Andrew Ordison watching on
as New Zealand start to build a fairly sizeable lead.
(05:49):
They're having a drink at the moment you've abstained from
that for the meantime orders what's the latest the A.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Greetings, Piney, we have got to one hundred and twenty
two of our most let's all lead a two hundred
and seventy seven. It looks like that, well, it accelerated
the last out. I think eighty seven runs coming between
Tom Ways and and Devin Conway, and I will look
to him bowl again at listening tonight, probably giving themselves
bit a time here with that acceleration, and I'm thinking
they'll have at least and now possibly even more given
(06:17):
how much they've worked at it. Just from a stats
watch perspective, party this the second time in a Test
match that there's been two opening stands in the same
Tests by New Zealand openers, and the last time bit
of a family connection here Rod Latham and Mark Graybash
in bulaway Organ, Zimbabwe in nineteen ninety two. So just
(06:39):
a little bit of a point of note there for
you and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, I love the stats and just on Conway,
it seems an age ago that you've got a duck
in the first innings in christ Church. Since that thirty seven,
sixty twenty eight not out, two hundred and twenty seven
and now seventy one not out. Great to see Devin
Conway return to the form. I guess we always knew
that he had.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's certainly a purple batch, isn't it. And if you
look at Conway mean now he's moved on to seventy
one late and forty two conways to get that second
century joined a fairly a leagues club as well of
two centuries in a Test match featuring Jeff Howard, Glenn Turner,
Andrew Jones, Peter Fulton and Kine Williamson. So that's still
on the horizon this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Illustrious company indeed. So I guess it's just a guessing
game really. You mentioned to us a couple of hours
ago when we chatted that it's more about leaving enough
time rather than getting to a particular target with regards
to runs. Whatever the west end is a chasing Will
they have a go at it or would they be
more like they were on the final day in christ
Church and just sort of play out for an honorable drawer.
(07:42):
What do you think their approach will be?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Look, I think they'll probably go for it, but you've
got a sort of dangle of bait, don't you. And
I think if it goes the lead, well we're talking
about the lead of two seventy nine at the moment
with another couple of runs added, but if it's beyond
four hundred and of course there loose of four hundred
and eighteen the world record fourth of things, Chase. I
think it starts to know there's a defensive mindset. There
isn't that, although you're trying to play us a side
out of a Test. But I think if you keep
(08:06):
it under that, maybe under four hundred, there will be
some incentive there and that's what they might be looking at.
So yeah, I mean that the pitch is certainly deteriorating,
particularly as I'm looking at the moment at the mount
end if you're bowling from the city, and I think
that's probably where I'll put as Fattel heading into a
fourth innings and trying to get the most out of
the rough with those footmarks still building and going into
(08:29):
a fifth day. I mean, you see have played this
pretty tactically well, I think going into the entire duration
of the Test. If you look at it that way,
given they couldn't enforce a follow on, they've got themselves
in a pretty decent set of circumstances.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I guess you always gravitate towards the spinners, don't you
in the fourth innings on a deteriorating pitch. But you
look at Jacob Duffy's numbers in this series, Audustry I've
been impressed with them eighteen wickets. Might he also be
quite a key figure in the fourth innings of this Test?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I do, I think indeed, just just because of the
I guess the venom that he's brought really on occasion
ballocking in Jacob Duffy as he does, and just with
the variable bounce we're seeing as the Test goes on,
and it's going to be a handful regardless, and I
think you would probably bowl him if you're looking at
probably your top two bowlers in that line of Duffy,
and could tell as I'm looking at it anyway, you'd
(09:20):
take Duffy bowling from the mountain into the city and
perhaps where he's had all the success over the course
of this Test.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now, just before you go, you've been in christ Church,
in Wellington and now in Mount Monganui. And I know
you've always been a keen connoisseur of catering at test venues.
Are you able have you come up with a winner
or a podium of sorts in terms of the catering
you've availed yourself of over the last three weeks or
(09:49):
so well?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Being the self of our gourmet that I am piety
look I'm going to I'm going to say this quietly
between you and I'm giving it to the mount actually
take they take first prize, absolutely outstanding, probably Hagley second,
and I'm sorry to say but wellingson third. The that's
just thisis one man's view. But honestly then now we
(10:12):
have been absolutely treated. I think probably a standout would
be the Lamb Curry yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right, well we can't win a trick here in
the Capitol, I'll tell you well, at least we've got
a test victory here diplomatic one.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
All.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
That is great to get your reports across the across
the weekend and across the year. All the best to
you and the Ordison far No for a wonderful Christmas
and relaxing holiday season. Look forward to catching up in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Likewise of the Pines, good on you, mate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Andrew Ordison joining us from Bay Oval, New Zealand, one
twenty six without lost a lead of two hundred and
eighty one Devin Conway seventy three not out, closing in on,
as Andrew said, a fairly well rare milestone innings or sorry,
test centuries in both innings of a Test match. Only
five others have done it for New Zealand. Could Devin
(11:05):
Conway become the sixth? At the other end, Tom Latham
just a bit more sedate forty four unbeaten combo seventy
three New Zealand one twenty six without loss. That's a
lead of two hundred and eighty one. Quick check on
what's happening across the Tasman It's all sort of been
a bit deflating since the dismissal not long ago of
Jamie Smith, but will Jackson Brydon Carser giving it a
(11:26):
crack three hundred and eight for seven, three hundred and
eight for seven, one hundred and twenty seven Further runs
needed if England are to pull off the most unlikely
of Test victories. Eight Away from three News Talks EDB.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Z'B fourteen away from One Bay Oval and Mount Monganou
in New Zealand twenty five without loss in their second
innings a lead of one hundred and eighty after bowling
the West Indies out this morning in their first innings
for four hundred and twenty. Andrew Orderson is our man.
Then Mount Monganui. Before we talk about what might be
set in terms of a total orders, tell us about
the New Zealand bowling effort today to snare those last
(00:33):
four West Indies wickets fairly quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Grettings finey, yes, So I thought, well, some of the
highlights probably Jacob Duffy, who's really taken on this spearhead
roll with the attack if you like, and ending up
with what four for eighty six and his thirty five
overs for coming and giving a couple of quick clickings
so early. And then I just Betell was able to
get one Michael Ray another to wrap it up. But
(00:57):
I think Stuffy's just ended that venom. I suppose it
was needed and in a bit of impetus to move
their innings on just from a Western News perspective shape
hope coming to the wicket, tottering to the wicket if
you like. After this food poisoning bout I was only
able to add four before hooking and it was caught
by Zach Folks at a fine leg. But I think
(01:17):
if you're looking ahead in this Test match, promising science
news end have been three four, one hundred and thirteen
from forty one overs as Pattel has left arm orthodox
and the pitch at the mount end or at least
Hotel bowling from the city end towards the mount end
starting to break up now and some variable bouncy here,
(01:39):
a couple of popping couple keeping low, and I think
that bodes well for New Zealand's chances of bowling in
that four ginnings.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's a small example size only five previous Test matches
at bay Over the highest fourth innings total there is
two seventy one all out by Pakistan in late twenty
twenty the summer of twenty twenty one. What should New
Zealand look to set.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well? Look, I think it's almost the time factor Piney.
To be honest, I would think they will want at
least three and a half sessions at the West Indies
given it's meant to be fine with the tomorrow, so
I'm thinking they'd probably have an hour at the West
Indies tonight and if they go to a decent tempo
they should be able to they get another couple of
hundred from here, they'd have three eighty at least. That
(02:20):
would actually be well enough just from what you say
there with fourth in things chases and small sample sizes,
but it might be enough of a hint or a
bit of sort of a whiff or a cent for
the West Indians as well, given how well they have
battered over the course of this tour. So I would
think it's more the time based scenario.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Could the West Indies win this teast match, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Think they could. It might depend on Shay Hope's well
being or his sickness or from having overcome this food poisoning,
or you think about what Justin Graves has achieved over
the course of the series as well, with certainly some
pluck in that West Indies lineup. So that's why I
think the black Caps have want to be well assured
(03:03):
of what they have but on the board, and if
you're be able to get these runs, I mean open
it was pretty solid so far as they saw as
they were able to produce them the first thing twenty
five without Moss, Conway and Lake and Conway seventeen late
and five and I think I'll just keep on in
that manner in the next three while hitting to lunch.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And I know you have to do some lunch filing
for our ZB network, but can you just talk a
little bit about ajs pttel eighty five wickets off? Sure,
he finally got one on home sal yesterday dded another couple.
He must have been pretty pleased, was he to break
that duck of home wickets?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, I think the smile said at all at the
press conference after they's play. That's the sure for as Betel.
I mean, he's been waiting for that one for some
time and it was a real anomaly, wasn't it, just
given what he has achieved overseas and in buying New
Zealand to that Test victory in Mumbai, but also of
course with the fourteen wickets in the other game there
with in the ten for one hundred and ninety. But
(04:02):
he was just I think it had been praying on
his mind fall on time and that was just great
to semb able to actually achieve that that goal, and
I think it's unshackled them. But two and he's taken
three in the first things here, and I expect a
lot more from in the second things as well. I
think he's got them and it's sort of playing into
his strengths if you like with it, breaking.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Up orders off to other duties for you. Thanks mate
as always for joining us. We'll get you in a
couple of hours. As well as New Zealand continue to
build a lead in their second innings there twenty five
without loss or just being played through the covers, which
might reach the band of twenty nine without loss. Lay
them on five Conway, who seems to have rediscovered some
of his best forms now unbeaten on twenty one. New
(04:43):
Zealand twenty nine without loss. This is in their second innings,
of course, really impressive to get through the West Indies
for four hundred and twenty in double quick time this
morning to give themselves, as Andrews said, the most time
to set a total. So as I say, there haven't
been that many test matches at bay Oval, this is
only the sixth one and in that time clearly there
(05:06):
I've only been I don't think in fact all four
all success having gone to a fourth inning. So like
I say, Pakistan may two seventy one there in the
fourth innings in the summer of twenty twenty twenty twenty one,
as Andrew said, if New Zealand can bat through to
let's say tea or just after, they should have a
healthy lead. They lead by one to eighty four at
(05:26):
the moment, another couple of one hundred, be close to
four hundred. That should be more than enough, more than enough,
and give them what a little bit of the last
session today and all of tomorrow to try and bowl
the West and he's out eight away from one. News
Talk said, be coming up fourteen away from three. Let's
get you back to bay Oval. Andrew Ordison watching on
as New Zealand start to build a fairly sizeable lead.
(05:49):
They're having a drink at the moment you've abstained from
that for the meantime orders what's the latest the A.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Greetings, Piney, we have got to one hundred and twenty
two of our most let's all lead a two hundred
and seventy seven. It looks like that, well, it accelerated
the last out. I think eighty seven runs coming between
Tom Ways and and Devin Conway, and I will look
to him bowl again at listening tonight, probably giving themselves
bit a time here with that acceleration, and I'm thinking
they'll have at least and now possibly even more given
(06:17):
how much they've worked at it. Just from a stats
watch perspective, party this the second time in a Test
match that there's been two opening stands in the same
Tests by New Zealand openers, and the last time bit
of a family connection here Rod Latham and Mark Graybash
in bulaway Organ, Zimbabwe in nineteen ninety two. So just
(06:39):
a little bit of a point of note there for
you and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know, I love the stats and just on Conway,
it seems an age ago that you've got a duck
in the first innings in christ Church. Since that thirty seven,
sixty twenty eight not out, two hundred and twenty seven
and now seventy one not out. Great to see Devin
Conway return to the form. I guess we always knew
that he had.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's certainly a purple batch, isn't it. And if you
look at Conway mean now he's moved on to seventy
one late and forty two conways to get that second
century joined a fairly a leagues club as well of
two centuries in a Test match featuring Jeff Howard, Glenn Turner,
Andrew Jones, Peter Fulton and Kine Williamson. So that's still
on the horizon this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Illustrious company indeed. So I guess it's just a guessing
game really. You mentioned to us a couple of hours
ago when we chatted that it's more about leaving enough
time rather than getting to a particular target with regards
to runs. Whatever the west end is a chasing Will
they have a go at it or would they be
more like they were on the final day in christ
Church and just sort of play out for an honorable drawer.
(07:42):
What do you think their approach will be?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Look, I think they'll probably go for it, but you've
got a sort of dangle of bait, don't you. And
I think if it goes the lead, well we're talking
about the lead of two seventy nine at the moment
with another couple of runs added, but if it's beyond
four hundred and of course there loose of four hundred
and eighteen the world record fourth of things, Chase. I
think it starts to know there's a defensive mindset. There
isn't that, although you're trying to play us a side
out of a Test. But I think if you keep
(08:06):
it under that, maybe under four hundred, there will be
some incentive there and that's what they might be looking at.
So yeah, I mean that the pitch is certainly deteriorating,
particularly as I'm looking at the moment at the mount
end if you're bowling from the city, and I think
that's probably where I'll put as Fattel heading into a
fourth innings and trying to get the most out of
the rough with those footmarks still building and going into
(08:29):
a fifth day. I mean, you see have played this
pretty tactically well, I think going into the entire duration
of the Test. If you look at it that way,
given they couldn't enforce a follow on, they've got themselves
in a pretty decent set of circumstances.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I guess you always gravitate towards the spinners, don't you
in the fourth innings on a deteriorating pitch. But you
look at Jacob Duffy's numbers in this series, Audustry I've
been impressed with them eighteen wickets. Might he also be
quite a key figure in the fourth innings of this Test?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I do, I think indeed, just just because of the
I guess the venom that he's brought really on occasion
ballocking in Jacob Duffy as he does, and just with
the variable bounce we're seeing as the Test goes on,
and it's going to be a handful regardless, and I
think you would probably bowl him if you're looking at
probably your top two bowlers in that line of Duffy,
and could tell as I'm looking at it anyway, you'd
(09:20):
take Duffy bowling from the mountain into the city and
perhaps where he's had all the success over the course
of this Test.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now, just before you go, you've been in christ Church,
in Wellington and now in Mount Monganui. And I know
you've always been a keen connoisseur of catering at test venues.
Are you able have you come up with a winner
or a podium of sorts in terms of the catering
you've availed yourself of over the last three weeks or
(09:49):
so well?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Being the self of our gourmet that I am piety
look I'm going to I'm going to say this quietly
between you and I'm giving it to the mount actually
take they take first prize, absolutely outstanding, probably Hagley second,
and I'm sorry to say but wellingson third. The that's
just thisis one man's view. But honestly then now we
(10:12):
have been absolutely treated. I think probably a standout would
be the Lamb Curry yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right, well we can't win a trick here in
the Capitol, I'll tell you well, at least we've got
a test victory here diplomatic one.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
All.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
That is great to get your reports across the across
the weekend and across the year. All the best to
you and the Ordison far No for a wonderful Christmas
and relaxing holiday season. Look forward to catching up in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Likewise of the Pines, good on you, mate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Andrew Ordison joining us from Bay Oval, New Zealand, one
twenty six without lost a lead of two hundred and
eighty one Devin Conway seventy three not out, closing in on,
as Andrew said, a fairly well rare milestone innings or sorry,
test centuries in both innings of a Test match. Only
five others have done it for New Zealand. Could Devin
(11:05):
Conway become the sixth? At the other end, Tom Latham
just a bit more sedate forty four unbeaten combo seventy
three New Zealand one twenty six without loss. That's a
lead of two hundred and eighty one. Quick check on
what's happening across the Tasman It's all sort of been
a bit deflating since the dismissal not long ago of
Jamie Smith, but will Jackson Brydon Carser giving it a
(11:26):
crack three hundred and eight for seven, three hundred and
eight for seven, one hundred and twenty seven Further runs
needed if England are to pull off the most unlikely
of Test victories. Eight Away from three News Talks EDB.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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