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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Now William's back onto the right for the slender goal.
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David Williams even the starting lineup for the first time
in a while and he retains the faith shown by
Mike rw Dan. David Williams played a league football for
Queensland Raw as a seventeen year old, then had time
with North Queensland Fury, Melbourne City, Wellington Phoenix and Perth Glory,
racking up two hundred and twenty eight A league matches,
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scoring fifty one goals. Also had time playing in Denmark,
Hungary and India. He also played under seventeen, under twenty
and under twenty three football for Australia and earned two
full soccero's caps. He announced this week he'll be leaving
Perth Glory, so I wanted to get him on the
air to reflect really on his time as a Phoenix player.
He's with us. David Williams, thanks for joining us, mate,
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great to have you on the show. You were here
in Wellington in twenty eighteen nineteen, so tell us about
the five or six years since that.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, thanks for having me Piney. That was you can
come up for a breath of air. Now, Okay, Look,
I was unfortunate I was injured and didn't make the
double header in New Zealand versus Auckland. Then the trip
down to Wellington up shortly after, so that would have
been my time to come back to Wellington and see
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you and catch up and you know, really enjoy that
the yellow fever.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
For you know, potentially one of the last times.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But look, it's one of those journeys that I've really
really enjoyed. And to this day, my wife and I
still speak about my time in Wellington. We speak about,
you know, we're having our first boy who was living
there with us, and you know, things pop up on
anniversaries and things like that on our phone, you know,
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and it's him and Wellington riding the bus to daycare
and all that. So a lot of fond memories of
my time in Wellington and New Zealand and yeah, long
career to think about as well.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Twitty eighteen nineteen was the season you spent with Wellington Phoenix.
Mark Rudin was the coach. How did he tempt you
to the Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, just from memory, it was just a conversation on
the phone. He was he was something that kind of
tested me. I think he was playing a few mind
games on the on the phone as well, which kind
of enticed me a little bit to.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Kind of prove him, prove him wrong. But you know,
it was just an opportunity that you know, it was
something different.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I've always loved traveling and experienced different parts of the world,
and throughout my career, you know, I've chosen a few
countries and clubs and cities that you know, I've been
able to travel. And if you can do that and
the clubs are paying for you to come over and
for visas and all this different stuff, you know, that's
one of those situations where it was an opportunity experience
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the culture and the country of New Zealand, which.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I really love.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
So yeah, I jumped at the opportunity and had a great,
great time. The club looked after me very well, it
was run really well, the fans were great, and you know,
it was something that was special throughout that time.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Through that season, even though we didn't win anything.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I felt like the club was on and the team
that year was you know, we felt like we had
kind of won something.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
A part of me thinks that looking back on it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, you arrived off the back of the previous season
which had been very challenging for the club and for
its fans, Wellington finishing just one point off the Wooden
Spoon and I know there was some scars around the
fan base. Were there any internal scars wellow when you arrived.
Did you arrive into a playing group that was still
feeling the effects of a pretty disappointing previous season.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I think the recruitment was pretty good in terms of
personalities that had come into to the team for what
we're already there as well.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I loved the dressing room. We had a great dressing room.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I mean it was Andrew Duranty there, there was Steven Taylor,
There was Olie Sale as well.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Was there a teammate of mine here at Perth as well?
You know, there was a really really good core group
as well.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Nathan Burns was a very experienced player that was in
the team too. And then you've got Libby Cacacci as well,
who was just you know, such a bright light in
that season.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Who has gone on to bigger and better things, so
I didn't notice anything.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And that's the best thing about being a player who
didn't really follow the Phoenix the previous year and not
knowing those you know, essentral scars or the way that
the club or fan base were feeling.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You can.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You know, the beauty about signing new players about that
is coming in and changing the environment. So I came
in and from day one we were laughing and everyone
getting on. So yeah, I think that set up our
preseason was really good and that set up the season
that we had, which unfortunately didn't eventuate to anything, but
there was some exciting games and I think we played
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some really really good football over that that season.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, you made the top six, which hadn't been done
for for a few years at Wellington, so that was
certainly an achievement. Just before we talk about more about
the season, you mentioned Libby there. Libby Cacaci Suprech Sing
was in that team as well, and we know they've
both gone on. Yeah, they've both gone on to to
you know, to overseas careers. They were young then, man,
was it obvious though to you, even as youngsters that
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they had a bit about them, Libby and sarp Reed.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
The thing with those two is they got opportunities regularly
as well.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They were they were backed.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
By Mark and it just made it you know, easy
for them based on who was around them in different
positions as well.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So that's very.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Important of where they're allocated on the field. With some experience,
you know. Sarpri was essentially when I was starting, he
was playing behind Roy, christna Or and I.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So with the two of us old fellows.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Up the front and Starprit doing a lot of running
for us, I think it was very handy. But also
I think with the pace that Roy and I could
kind of give, with Surpriz's through balls and his technical
ability as well, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It matched up really well.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
And Libby was a simple play He just wanted to attack, dribble,
get crosses in and he based his football around simplicity,
which he went on some amazing dribbles and some amazing
runs and got you know people you know, standing up
out of their seats holding their breath to see if
the cross was you know, going to make it.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
To a strike or if his shot was going in.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
So it was exciting and those players, you know, local well,
Libby was local, being from Wellington and sarpri Obviously I'm
pretty sure he's from Auckland, but at the time having
local boys adds so much to the team as well,
so that was inspiring for others who have also continued
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that path.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So the season just before Christmas, I remember this game
so vividly well against Brisbane Raw at what was Westpac
Stadium now Sky Stadium, and you came off the bench
and it was won all and you scored this absolute
cracker of a goal and the Phoenix went on to
win four to one. And from there, mate, it was
like I was calling you scoring goals every single week.
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You were really prolific, you know, eleven and all that season,
including a hat trick which I want to talk about
as well. But what was going so well for you
during that season as those goals started to pile up.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I just think I've got a lot of confidence from
Mark as a coach as well. He would test me,
he would push me, and training was a very very
high standard. It was you know, it was ruthless at times,
which he was with certain players. So when you're watching
your teammate, you know, getting scolded over you know something
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that happened at training or whatnot. The others kind of
you know, perk up and really start concentrating. So I
think it came down to certain you know things at
training that really kept that level high. We did a
lot of shooting a lot of games, and then putting
that into practice was the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But I really do feel like I was part of
a really good team that year as well. It was exciting.
We were really really fit, I felt.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And yeah, with the likes of playing with Roy upfront
as well, it just made things a little bit easier
for me in that sense.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, he got nineteen goals that season. I checked the
stet before I came on with you, and I mean,
what a what a season for herm Johnny Warren villist
as well. How did the combination between the two of
you work because you hadn't played together before. How did
you so quickly forge such an effective partnership.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think it was just we were just simple players really,
Like I was never one to dribble and do step
overs or do any of that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Roy wasn't really either.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He might just do one to create a yard to
shoot with, but other than that, we used our strengths
which was our pace and our shot and football is simple.
I think some people over complicated sometimes and I think
we just stuck to our guns and didn't do anything
out of the ordinary.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
We worked hard defensively, which.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Created our opportunities, and I think that's you know, Roy's
best strength is the way he worked off the ball,
created chances for himself while he was so successful as
a striker winning the ball in the box. And I remember,
even being in India as teammates with him, the amount
of goals that he would assist me based on press
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and winning it in the front third outstanding from him.
And that's why he's still playing because of the way
he trains, the way his mentality is he can be
I don't know if he's close to forty three years
old these days.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But he's.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Still playing over in India, not at the IL level,
but he's still thereabouts. So I think the simplicity of
our football was probably a reason why we connected so well.
We were very very similar players, but we also had
just a natural connection, and that's what some clubs can
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naturally and luckily get sometimes if players can just naturally connect.
We were friends off the field, you know, we were
friends on the field, and I think that really made
it a really good connection and partnership.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, one of your more memorable Knights didn't feature him.
He had been sent off the previous game against Western
Sydney back end of March around twenty three. Newcastle come
to Wellington. You score in the first minute, then a
penalty after an hour, and then you put this thing
in the top corner past Glenn Moss for your hat trick.
That goal, well, where is that? Where does that set
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in amongst all of the goals that you think.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I think that would be my number one goal I've
scored in my career. It's just just how it went
in the moment of you know, scoring a hat trick
being the third goal. You know that stadium created such
a good atmosphere as well. I've scored some great goals
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in might I say better atmospheres.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But you know in a Melbourne.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Derby when I was Melbourne Heart, this Melbourne victory that
when it was Eddie had stadium before.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I think it's now Marvel potentially, I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
What it might be called now, but you know when
we used to sell out that that game, it was
huge as well, So that that goal for me was
quite important being outside the box. And I even remember
Holy Sale he said he was on the bench and
before I even hit it, he goes that this is
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going to be a goal like a few minutes before,
because he had a feeling. Goes, there's no way a
strikers on two goals and going to pass it to someone,
and that was his basis of his call, and he goes, yeah,
it's it's going in. So you know all he's got
some good instincts about him too, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But yeah, there was one goal. Actually I.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Can't actually find vision for it because it was so
long ago as North Queensland, Fury Verse, Gold Coast and
it was in the Gold Coast as well, so I'm
not sure if cameras were even around that man.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I definitely don't think it was HD.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
But yeah, look, if there was any vision of a
goal I scored at skilled Stadium all those years ago,
that was also up there for me.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Look, there was a I scored a really good header
in India as a part of a semi final win
to get us into the Grand Final one year, which is.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Actually against Eric.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Pardalou's team Bengaloo which he doesn't like me bringing that
up every time I see him or.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Speak to him.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Look, there are good goals, but I think in terms
of you've got to put atmosphere moments, what the order
of the goal? I think, yeah, that that has to
take the cake. The Phoenix against Newcastle Jets.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Wonderful stuff. Well, you had a season here six years ago.
Well and it's still fondly remembered by Yellow Fever and
by everybody associated with a football club. It's been great
to get the chance to catch up. Made all the
best for the decision making your head and no doubt
we'll see you around the football traps in the in
the months and years to come.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
No thanks, enjoyed my time and look forward to getting
back there one day.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, look forward to seeing you David. Thanks. Indeed, David
William's there. Former Phoenix player's left Perth Glory and is
now looking for his next football club. We wait to
see where he turns up.
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