Fraser Auret: Kiwi horse breeder on Ka Ying Rising's victory at the Everest

Another Kiwi went on to conquer Everest - this time in Randwick.

New Zealand-bred horse Ka Ying Rising made history after he bolted ahead with the A$20 million ($22.68m) slot race in Sydney.

Fraser Auret was the horse breeder who bred and trained  Ka Ying Rising - and he joined Piney to discuss the victory.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
New Zealand bred horse Kaying Rising has confirmed his superstar
status winning the world's richest race on turf, the twenty
million dollar The Everest Race at Randwick yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Marsa winfront from Overpass Kaying Rising two links away, then
Jimmy Star clear from tempted Lady Shamanda Jolly Star down
the outside. Overpass takes the laid by length. Ka Ying
Rising stokeda curtain says, come on, boy, show the Aussies
what you've got cha. Yang Rising moved up to overpass
clear from Jimmy Star. The Ka Yang Rising champions do

(00:49):
what others caut He's the world's best spread of day
down Chai Ying Rising bon day.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Everest Indeed, Ridden superbly by his regular jockey, Hong Kong
based Australian Zach Perton, Kaying Rising settled in third, took
the lead passing the three hundred meter mark and surged
clear to towards the line for a dominant win. It
takes his record to fifteen wins from seventeen starts and
career earnings to nineteen and a half million, including seven

(01:17):
million for winning the Everest yesterday. He was bred here
in New Zealand by Fraser Aurett, who joins us now. Fraser,
tell us about your emotions as you watched the Everest
race yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh look, it's been a heck of a journey that
he's taken us all on. And you know, it seems
like yesterday it was just a cute little foal running round,
So goodness me, it's certainly a pinch yourself moment.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Can you tell us about the story of Kayan Rising?
Tell us about his journey?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yes, So I trained the mother, Missy Moo. She ended
up winning five races, and when she retired, her owner
wasn't too keen to sort of breed. He was getting
on a bit in age. And this was actually the
very first horse that we ever bred, would you believe
in We were doing some work for Windsor Park stud

(02:08):
at the time, and we've had a couple of sham
expresses through the stable that I really really liked, and
so you know, we've just sort of made the decision
to delve into it really and send her there.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is it true? Your kids nicknamed him Rocket when he
was a foal.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yes, So when we went to pick him up from
the stud when he was about two months old, he
was roaring around the paddock one hundred bars an hour,
and all the kids sort of said, Dad, we've got
to call this orce rocket. And it's so ironic that
he's actually turned out to be a rocket, isn't he?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Indeed, indeed, I've had it described to me like this phraser.
We traditionally produce middle distance runners and athletics terms Peter Snow,
John Walker, Kaying Rising is like Usain Bolt. How has
this happened?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Look, look, that's a very good question and one I
can't really answer. And I tell you why. In the
pedigree there's even a Melbourne Cup winner that was thirty
two hundred meters and Kaying's mother was definitely at her
best around a two thousand meter mark. So yes, look,
he's not really even in the frame of a sprinter.

(03:16):
So one thing you learn when you're involved in racing
is the first rule is that there isn't any rules,
and I think I think he's evidence of that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, So at what point would it have become obvious
that he was a sprinter?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Look, he's just so fast basically, you know, and right
from day dot when he had his very first sort
of gallop, you know, he just had an extra couple
of gears. I guess you would say that most horses
don't have. And you know, as he's strengthened and matured
and things, he's just actually improved each and every season.

(03:52):
And it's sort of scary to think. And he's only
really sort of hit full physical maturity now.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
So tell us then what the future might hold for him.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, like literally, to sound clear ciche, it's the world
is his oysa. And look, he's even his weight is
sort of now more now than it was last year
and the year before, and that's all sort of muscle
muscle definition and that sort of thing. So he's been
handled so beautifully by the Hayes camp. He hasn't been

(04:25):
over raced. He's been really really looked after. And look,
I still believe it's all in front of him.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
He usually races in Hong Kong. His trip down Under
to tackle the Everest was the catalyst for a lot
of questions about whether he could deliver. He did, obviously,
why was their doubt?

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Look, I think I think the big thing is if
you historically, look through traveling is not easy. It's it's
it's not easy to go to a different jurisdiction, different temperatures.
I mean, these are finally tuned athletes and you're taking
them right out of their comfort zone and that sort
of thing. You know. So for me personally, it wasn't

(05:05):
a question whether he was good enough to win the race.
It was just a question of whether you know the traveling,
the different atmosphere and all the rest of it. And look,
he really the trial. I've never ever seen a trial
that there was so much split split opinions on. You know,
half half people sort of felt like he was unbeatable

(05:25):
after that, and half the half the people felt he
was no chance at all, you know, But in some
ways it added to the theater of the of the race,
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, And just can you take us through the race?
What are your emotions as you watch your race from
start to finish like that?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Look, I guess, I guess for for for us just
watching on. You know, obviously he generally does begin really well,
so he takes a bit of luck out of the equation.
And and then when you've got someone of the of
the league of Zach Zach on board. You know, he
made sure he didn't go to the rail and risks
sort of being put in a luck type situation where

(06:04):
he needed to get out. He sort of made sure
that that he's in the clear throughout the race. And
I guess you know, that's that's what it's all about,
isn't it. But when he turned for home, you know, yeah,
you just sort of hold your breath and and things,
but he just lets go with the most magnificent sprint
and and he did that again on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Did your your phone blow up with messages afterwards?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yes, it certainly did, certainly did. And you know that's
a wonderful thing with these horses. You know, they're they're
they're very time consuming. They're a massive team, team effort.
It takes a takes a whole village, you know. And
so yeah, a lot of people have been involved with
his journey and everyone's loved every minute of it.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, well, it was majestic watching him pull away there
yesterday and the everest phrase, I thank you so much
for joining us and giving us some insight. Mate, No
doubt you'll be you'll be basking in the glory of
this one. For a little while longer.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Absolutely, I might have had to have had a penadole
or two this one.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Love it, Phraser, Thanks for your time this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Thank you, No, thank you, Fraser Fraser. Al Right, there
are Kiwi Breeder of Kaying Rising who won the Everess yesterday,
pocketing seven million for winning that race, taking career earnings
to nineteen and a half million.

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