Full Show Podcast: 20 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hello Chiota, good afternoon, and welcome to the Sunday edition
of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. October twenty Already,
Happy birthday to Laurie Daily, to former South African paceman
Alan Donald and of Phoenix legend Paul Eiffel. To coin
a phrase from my esteemed former colleague PJ. Montgomery, the

(00:51):
America's Cup is still New Zealand's Cup. A thirty seven
second win over Britannia and Race nine off Barcelona in
the early hours of this morning, New Zealand time has
wrapped up a very comprehensive seven two victory in the regatta.
That is back to back to back wins now fourteen
New Zealand. Dean Barker on this Shortly we'll get you

(01:12):
to Barcelona as well. Keme for your thoughts and analysis
on this too. It just never at any stage felt
like we'd lose it to me, and that was from
someone taking I guess what you'd call it, an interested
but passing interest in it. I certainly wasn't locked in,
but it just never felt as though we were going

(01:33):
to lose it. Even when any Ospretan you came back
to four to two. I never suspected that it would
become a twenty thirteen recreation. Just always felt like we
had it under control. I began to get your thoughts
and are perhaps controversial suggestion as well around Team New
Zealand to come to other matters around today the White

(01:55):
Ferns into the T twenty Cricket World Cup Final. This
is tomorrow morning at three o'clock. You've got to set
your arms for this as New Zealand chase silverware against
South Africa. All round up. Mealy kerr huge part of
this team for many years now and at this tournament
her bowling has been utterly exceptional. She's with us after
one o'clock. Melliker the Black Caps. The black Caps as well,

(02:19):
also on the cusp of a first test when in
India by my count, since nineteen eighty eight, that's an
awfully long time ago. They just need what one hundred
odd runs on day five. Apparently rain is forecast. That's
a bit nigli, but we'll drill down into that. Qualifying
for the US Grand Prix has just finished, or is
in the process of finishing, or is certainly ongoing. That

(02:42):
was pretty vague, wasn't it. Liam Lawson, as you heard
in our sports news, the third fastest time in the
first qualifying session didn't register retire in the second one,
but he knew going into qualifying he would be at
the back of the grid anyway owing to a grid
penalty for equipment changes. Now I'm not entirely across what

(03:02):
that means and how this has happened, but we will
get your to the US Grand Prix after two to
explain all of this to you. The Silver Ferns open
the four game Constellation Cup Netball series against Australia Wellington
to night mid quarter Matti Gordon and to join US
Auckland FC up and running in the A League. How
good was that yesterday? That was just a brilliant day

(03:23):
at Mount Smart. The Phoenix open their season this afternoon.
New goalkeeper Josh Olaway Yemmy on the show James Bconi
along in his regular one forty five slot Live Sport
this afternoon, while the season's collide Heartland Championship rugby the
Lahore Cup Final this afternoon in Tekowetti, King Country against
West Coast five past two, and the domestic cricket seasons underway.

(03:46):
The men's Ford Trophy competition, that's the fifty over stuff
defending champions Canterbury. They've won the toss and elected to
bowl first against Wellington at the Base and good decision
as it's turning out. Wellington's seventy five for four in
the twenty third over. Northern Districts have chosen to bowl
first against Otago and Fungaday Otago one hundred and one

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for three in the twenty first over and a slightly
delayed start in New Plymouth where the Central Stats won
the Tyson Saint Auckland and they're fifty one for one
through fifteen overs. Will keep you right up today Round
four matches and the men's and women's National Football League
as well. And of course you can join us at
any time on any topic. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 3 (04:47):
The three peat is complete and Everett's Team.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
New Zealand when the Louis Wigton thirty seventh America's Chapel.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
In the message, congratulations to all.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
The team at all. It's New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Very very well sailed. They were so impressive, weren't they.
A few times they were challenged, they just came back stronger.
Those are the sounds of elation on board Team New
Zealand after retaining the America America's Cup in Barcelona, a
commanding winning race nine over Britannia and a seven to

(05:28):
victory overall. The key center took charge of the race
after the third gate and from there did not really
look back. They won by thirty seven seconds this morning,
and with it they retained the old mug let's bring
in highly experienced New Zealand sailor, particularly in multiple America's Cups.
Dean Barker, Dean, did it feel as though Team New

(05:50):
Zealand had the faster boat. Right from the start of
the Cup match.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
I think it became clear. Yeah, I think I just
watching the first couple of races unfold that team is
definitely had an edge. And yeah, you said have always, Yeah,
you want to be measured and drawing conclusions and things
about performance, but yeah, it just seemed like they were

(06:16):
just a little bit stronger all around. And it was
surprising because you know, I think a lot had been
made about the way any of us have been improving
all the way through the Challenges series. You know, they
were incredibly Yeah, they did an incredible job. How much
they improved, and they were racing the boat really well.
At the combination of Ben and Dylan Fletcher and things
was really the way they were developing was really cool.

(06:38):
But I was super impressed with the way Team Zaling
came out of the blocks and at the beginning of
the event and cerddenly. You know that just as you
listen to more and more of the comms and things
coming off the boat, just the way that Alex and
Claire and Nathan. I think Nathan bought a lot of
discipline to the boat. You know, I'd say it was

(06:58):
a more dominant performance than it was at Auckland, you know,
which was surprising. You know, I think for a lot of.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
People, how would they have ensured Team New Zealand that
they came into the Cup match race ready having not
you know, they raced in the early part of the
Louverton of course, but any os Bretanna had been racing
the whole time, how would Team New Zealand have ensured
they were match race ready.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Well, I think a lot of it just comes to out
of the confidence. Yeah, the team, you know, the team
is Zyellen Group designed Sure Sailing team. You know, it's
it's yeah, it's very impressive what they've accomplished over since
Auckland with all these different projects and things going on,
and thens are still put the fastest seventy five on

(07:42):
the water and then and then race it. Well, I
think how your race ready? It comes down to the preferation.
You know, they knew they are going to be up
against a strong challenger when when they sort of emerged
from the Loue Veraton Challenger series. And I think it
was a surprise probably for a lot of people that
in the early format and he made it through a

(08:03):
head of Lunarrosa. But at the same time, you know,
they say deserved that they made huge games all the
way through, and I think they were the sure the
deserve challenger, but yeah, just completely outclassed by a much
much stronger team in the end.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
How delicate is the balanceding between taking risks and low
margins for.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Error the style of sailing, and I think and it's
really you know, it goes back to San Francisco days
and some of the learnings from there, and they need
to sort of move forward. It's that there is no
room to be sort of conservative and the types of sailing.
You've really got to throw the you know, throw the
ball right out there and try and try and catch up,

(08:46):
you know, with with what you create. And and I
think it's certainly been from the outside looks like, you know,
the way Team Zell has been operating, they just they
trust the technology. They've they've had a settled design group
for a number of number of years now really since
they're Bermuda days, and they know it's just it's, you know,
it's very very impressive what they've achieved. So it's going

(09:12):
to be you know, it's going to take a very
strong challenger to be able to come back and unsettle
and whatever the next event looks like.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Just to give us an idea of what is most
important here, hypothetically speaking, if the cruise, the entire operation
of both boats swapped boats, would Team New Zealand still
win In Briten Year's boat.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
I'd say no, you know, typically the fastest boat ones,
but yes, it has to be operated by good sailors,
and I think the quality of the sailors across the
top teams, it's very very hard to differentiate, you know.
I think if you've been completely honest, i'd say, and
I probably one more of the starts. You know, suddenly

(09:56):
they want to start again overnight, but they just don't
quite have the legs to make the first intersection work,
and then suddenly they're on the back fire. And I
think to even boats or if something else had a
slight speed advantage, they would have probably gone and won
that race quite easily. So it's sort of, you know,
like it's it's one of those questions it's impossible to answer,

(10:18):
but I think you know, for sure, the New Zealand
sailing team is very very strong and they as a group,
you know, particularly the Colmsyre here, between the four guys
managing the boats, it was just sounded very, very slack and.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Polished.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
So yeah, that's a huge, huge credit to the way
they are operating. But at the same time, I don't
think you can take anything away from the way that
any use guys were sailing. But they just weren't given
me the same opportunities and they're always a little bit
on the back fop just because they weren't quite as
competitive speed wise.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
When you're listening to those comms coming off the boat
is sometimes less more or is there the need to
be constantly chatting to one another and giving information?

Speaker 6 (11:01):
You know, from my own experience, you know, when you're
sailing well, was when it feels like you've got time
to make all you to visions and you know, quite
often you hear the communication that's going on on board,
you know, like the snippets that you're here on the
on the broadcast, it just sounds like they're they're very
well measured decisions when they're choosing which gate to go around,
or whether to tack at a certain time, or whether

(11:22):
they want to cover or you know, and it's just
it's just really you would expect to hear the team
at the top of the game performing and it was
really you know, it was really cool just to understand
you know, how they how they operate on board the
oddumn and you know, maybe it gets because a few
of the other teams, you know, some ideas where the

(11:42):
sort of the baseline will be for the next event.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
And just on that we we know that there will
be a cirty eighth America's Coup. We don't have any
more details about from that, Dan, do you think there's
any chance they'll defend it back home?

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Well, if you listen to what they said last when
they were trying to defend the idea of going to Barcelona,
that the reason for going there was that they could
wanted and bring it back. So yeah, it's so it
be pretty cool to have an America's Cup back and
back in New Zealand again. And I was fortunate to
be part of the selling a red bull racing teams

(12:15):
instead of a coaching capacity, and so the time in
Barcelona was great, but it certainly isn't a isn't anywhere
near what an event is like in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
All right, Well, that gives us a little bit of
hope anyway, Thanks for your insight, Dan, great, great to
tet to you. We'll give our fingers cross that we
might see at a bit closer to home next time.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Wheah, wouldn't it be great?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
All right?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Take care, Thank you you.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Have a good day than things. Indeed, Dean Barker there
with his thoughts, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
for yours on this achievement. This team is supreme, magnificent,
miles better than anyone else in America's Cup sailing right now.
So Ben Ainsley said after this morning's decisive race that

(12:58):
they are the best America's Cup team ever ever. For
the sale enthusiasts among us, please give us your view.
As I sit at the top of the show, it
never felt ever like we would lose. There was talk
I think of us being race rusty. You know, we
haven't raced the Louis Verton and we raced the early ones,

(13:20):
but pretend are race hardened. I think it's just people
trying to get us interested because they It never felt
ever as though we would lose. Breten Year's two wins
were down to Team New Zealand mistakes, make no mistakes,
win the Cup and Peter Berlin doesn't make a lot
of mistakes. They just don't. They are a well oiled

(13:43):
machine team New Zealand and I don't think there's anybody
close to them right now.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
How are you, Tim Okay?

Speaker 9 (13:54):
I just wanted to give a massive breath, a colossal
rap because he's copped it on the way through the
grass Dalton. I mean he's headed to I don't believe
they could have won the thing here. They would have
had the funds. Are up against the best technology in
the world. That's trusd always the most wealthy people in
the world won that Cup and Sir Peter Blake in

(14:14):
those amazing days. Nobody's done it three times and he
should be third. Grund Dalton all day long. It's mind blowing.
It doesn't matter what depends on you having them. He's
clearly incredible at getting funding, holding the team together. He's
been through Helen back and he should be just one
of the most revered New Zealanders in sports.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Does this. America's Cup wouldn't mean less to you because
it was a chieved in Barcelona compared to Auckland last time.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
Not one.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
But if it was an Orkland we would have gone
out on the first three races. The money is too intimidating.
And I mean, look at the old recliff. He's got
the whole merceds been left one technology behind them. It's
mind's numbing what they're up against. It's absolutely incredible that
we even managed to compete, let alone dominate them all.

(15:03):
It's mind blowing. You know, they've got every bit of technology.
Every genius in the world, every mega computer, mogal billionaire,
everybody wants that trophy, the absolute top of the line,
you know, technology money, so problem helone do anything to
get their hands on it. And that little fellow from
New Zealand, he dug it and stuck with Emirates and

(15:25):
bought Forton. Bitchton did whatever he did and got villified
and now he's walking home done. Want no man in
history's at another club. I think it's a massive, massive achievement.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
So sir Grant Dalton, for you, Tom.

Speaker 9 (15:39):
All day long. Anybody who argues it as a moron.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Thanks Tom. You might want to stay June because there
might be a few who have an opposite view, but no, look,
thank you very much, and you're right. Grant Dalton has
done a huge amount for Emirates Team New Zealand. Of
course he has. He's been the driving force and he
has polarized people. Of course he has. As soon as
he decided to take it to Barcelona, he must have known,

(16:06):
he would have known. He's not stupid. He must have
known that it would alienate a large part of the
fan base. Of course it was going to do that.
Of course it's going to be less palatable to us
at one o'clock in the morning compared to one o'clock
in the afternoon where we can go and watch it.
John says, I agree. Time for knighthoods for Dalton, Berlin

(16:29):
and Chuk. Thanks John.

Speaker 11 (16:31):
Hello, Elbie, Hello, helling.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
There, very good Albie. How are you today, mate?

Speaker 11 (16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (16:40):
A lot more on.

Speaker 11 (16:48):
Was as kiwis And that boat is a fag at
the top. It's the only.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I can't what about the sailors. What about the sailors?
They are all Kiwi's on that boat. Well, well Looksyan,
Sorry I said that again, Albi.

Speaker 11 (17:08):
One of them is some Aussie.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
A lot of them are Keywis. In fact, I think
they almost all are.

Speaker 11 (17:15):
A lot of chettywewers. But it really annoys me that
call me the loyal They have done nothing for us
kiwis to ben from it. Hits one at Bony's flag
and I don't I hate reading now being megat but

(17:35):
it's just annoys v Jason.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Now, I'll you're you're You're entitled to be annoyed by it,
and you're not alone when it comes to that. As
I said before, taking it off shore was always going
to be polarizing, always going to be polarizing. In Grant
Dalton's mind, the best possible way of defending that Cup
in twenty twenty four was to take it to Barcelona.

(17:59):
That is it, as Dean Barker said. And I hadn't
picked up on this, but you might have heard Dean
Barker at the end of our chat there say when
Grant Dalton came out with the decision they were taking
it to Barcelona. Dean Barker remembered him saying, we're taking
it there so we can defend it back home. We

(18:20):
wait and see. My gut tells me, No, my gut
tells me that now it's only going to get more
and more expensive. It's not going to get cheaper. As
these teams and Tim who was our previous caller said,
there are so many syndicates, so many teams, so many rich, rich,
rich people who want to get their hands on that
thing that it's not going to get any cheaper to defend.

(18:43):
So if they are to defend it back home, it's
going to need investment from here. And we are not
a big country and there are a lot of hands
out for things. I'm not saying that in a negative way,
but Emirates Team New Zealand are in a group of
organizations that would like some government, local government, central government assistants.

(19:07):
It's up to those organizations to plead their case. And
I get the feeling from Grunt Dalton now he won't
feel like he has to plead his case. He'll just
point to the three in a line that Team New
Zealand have achieved here and so well, if you don't
want it here, we'll just we'll go to some We'll go,
I don't know, back to Barcelona. There's been talk of

(19:28):
Saudi Arabia. There'll be any number of suitors. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten to eighty twelve, twenty six, we're back
after this. The texts are flying in. By the way,
you can correspond by text that is absolutely fine. Best
way to get your point of crosses on the phone though,
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
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Speaker 2 (19:57):
News Talks he Be twelve twenty nine four Border calls
are unsurprisingly someone's pointing out Nathan out Bridges in Australian.
Yes he is, but there are a heck of a
lot of key we on that boat. I don't want
to go down the Hellberg route. We can do that
another day. But let's not forget Team New Zealand won
the Supreme Award in nineteen ninety five and again in

(20:17):
twenty seventeen. They were Team of the Year both of
those years and in two thousand and they were a
finalist in twenty twenty one. The only reason they didn't
win in twenty twenty one was because the black Cats
were World Test champions. They've always been rewarded at the
Hellbergs when they've won the America's Cup. A lot of
support as well on the text for Grant Dalton Hello, Dallas.

Speaker 12 (20:40):
Yeah, pioneer. Yeah, congratulations to the whole team. And yeah,
Grant Dalton, what a guy. He's just such a hard
work and in never since days so you always seem
to be the same age, isn't he.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Just maybe it's the hard work. Maybe it's the hard work.
I need to give that a crack myself.

Speaker 13 (20:58):
Dellus Yeah, just hopeful as yet, but logistically it doesn't
really work in all, you know, for these teams that
have got to fly all the way from Italy or.

Speaker 12 (21:12):
Great Britain, you know, bring all their yachts down. It's
a long way to come. And then there's the time
slots which don't really work for the northern audiences, you know,
four in the morning, three in the morning, that sort
of thing. That's that's a big problem. And so no,
I think Barcelona was fantastic. It just seems just seem
to work on every level, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, it did for us, Yeah absolutely. If money wasn't
an object though, and that's a silly thing to say,
but if let's just say it was less of an object,
it would be good to have it back here, wouldn't it.

Speaker 12 (21:43):
Dyllas well, I'm sure Grant Dalton wanted that. He's you know,
he's a lot on New Zealander. I'm sure he did
his best to keep it in Auckland. But you know,
you're talking huge money, you're talking logistics, you know. I
just think he knows what he's doing. I think he
did what was best for the Cup, you know. And yeah,

(22:06):
and we did very well. We came out, we still
won the things. So how can we complain.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, he's been vindicated. His decision has been vindicated, Dallas
by that metric, absolutely, they've won the thing. You know,
if you strip everything else away, they have convincingly retained
the America's Cup. Surely that's the be all and end all.
Everything else obviously is a point of discussion and a

(22:35):
point of contention. But they retained the America's Cup. Text,
How does having or how does hosting the Cup overseas
help our tourism and our economy? Well, it's it's not
Team New Zealand's job to boost tourism in New Zealand
and our economy, is it. It's Team New Zealand's job
to win the America's Cup. It's not their job to

(22:58):
promote New Zealand on the global stage. If that is
a nice piece of collateral benefit, then sure, But I'm
pretty sure it's not written into their KPIs that they
have to help our tourism and our economy. I just
got to try and win the America's Cup.

Speaker 14 (23:14):
Hi, George Piney, how are you mate?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Good George? How are you still painting?

Speaker 14 (23:21):
Indeed, there's always something he should have done it. I
thought i'd be done.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Three weeks ago.

Speaker 14 (23:25):
So fortunately for me though, it means another weekend of view,
which is always a good thing.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Good Man.

Speaker 14 (23:31):
As you know, Pioney, I'm the sports nut and obviously
really proud this morning to see the team lift the trophy.
But hey, I don't know, you know, I like to
always be positive about these things. But do you think
there's a there's such a thing as the technology has
got so good that it's it's actually ultimately made it
a bit of a boring product, Like it's there's just
so much down to the start. And I know when

(23:53):
you had the coach on last week, he said, oh, look,
if you don't want to start, you've got to play
for a mistake, and only then he might be one
extra chance in the race. You've got to try and
stay on for For me, that's it's not compelling doing
like it's just you're kind of watching the result play
out for the next thirty minutes once you know the start.
You know, there's something quite romantic about the lead changes

(24:15):
that putting the sail up, the plastic bags getting stuck
around the keel, was that for you know, like the
I mean, don't get me wrong, these are incredibly impressive machines,
and I don't know if you get the true context
of it on the telly, but it's not unstralling viewing.
There's my summation.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, you're right, it's not the lead changes, the sense
of jeopardy around it. You're right, it's yeah, the technology
is incredible. I guess I like it in a bit
to Formula one George. You know, you look at those
the technology and the you know, the increased efficiency of
those Formula one cars, and now it's it's really a

(24:53):
who's got the better who's got the better car builder,
who's got the better boat builder, who's got the better technology.
But it was interesting they had Dean Barker say that
you still have to sail them well, and we do
have a lot of very very good America's Cup sailors, they.

Speaker 14 (25:06):
Are world class. In Berlin is just unflappable. It seems
for me, the best spawning occasion ever that I can
remember is is Cricket World Cup twenty nineteen final. Just
in terms of England Black Caps, that one day one
just in terms of sporting drama, you know, that was
edge of your seat ebbs and flows. You don't know
what's going to happen, You're riding every ball, and that's

(25:29):
you know, for me, the two criteria to make a
world class product is the best of the best competing,
which obviously the America's Cup have, but even even contests,
you know, and that Cricket kind of summed up all
the stars aligned that day to make it, you know,
one of the most memorable games ever. But even you
go Hamish care on the long jump, you know that
you're watching it and you don't know what's going to happen,

(25:51):
and anyone can win it, and it just makes it
so much more of a of a product when when
it is that even.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, and America's Cup can't rival that at the moment. George,
You're right, there's you know, I guess the last time
we had it was twenty thirteen when yeah, we memorably
lost from eight to one ahead. But you're right, like
I said that it never felt at any stage and
this is from a layperson in Middaly, it never felt

(26:19):
in any stage like ten years and then we're going
to lose, and you're right. Other sport its attractiveness is
often the sense of uncertainty about it. You just don't know.
It's like that's why the Bleader's like upersn't is interesting anymore.

Speaker 14 (26:36):
It's a bit like why Crusader's wiretas game on a
Friday night. As you're just sitting down to watch the
result play out, you know the Crusaders are going to win.
It's just a matter of by how much. I think
every sporting competition just needs to have that competitive element
at the forefront, which is where football is obviously great
because you can always score a last minute goal and

(26:56):
there's always some drama that can keep you in there.
From a spectator point of view.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, good man, George, good to chat has always mate,
Thanks for calling. In no doubt, we'll chat to get
next week. Oh one hundred eighty teen eighty, Steve says Pint.
I'm pretty sure Nathan outfredg has New Zealand citizenship. He
needed it to have to be able to sail under
the Cup's citizenship rules. There you go. So yeah, they
are key. He was on this boat. The boat was
built in Auckland. The technology behind it is largely key.

(27:24):
We engineered. This is a New Zealand operation. Jeepers, Chris,
what's going on there?

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Mate o one of my chickens.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
She's a bit plucky because she just laid eggs. Sorry
about that, mate, Yeah, yeah, I like to love the
old school life where you actually get your own eggs
for free when you throw out a letter through a
tomato and they reward you with something better. So and
she's actually one of those golden colored ones. I can't

(28:01):
remember the breed, but very short. Yeah, her name's Roasty.
She looked like a roast.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
We seem to vi it off into a very strange area. Chris.
Maybe we should bring it back to the America's Cup.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
Yeah, we should Rossie go away anyway, So swampsters, I
apologize for the background.

Speaker 15 (28:22):
Look.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
Look, this America's Cup as a whole product, right from
the Louis Vauton right through to the actual racing that
we've just gone through. I think this was one of
the best that I've seen because look, let's be honest,
everybody thought it would be Team New Zealand versus Prata,

(28:46):
you know, the Lunarossa. Sorry, yes, And when the Brits
got up and they fought their way back and through
and they and then they got there, I'm like this,
this Englishman, he wants this. And I heard a quote
that he said when he was talking in the media
and he said, we built this trophy, we gave it

(29:07):
to America and I want to bring it back to Britain,
like that's his goal. And so I've got a lot
of respect for that guy Ainsley and unfortunately for him,
but he was outsailed by some Antipedeans and long may
that last. But people are invested in this. So this

(29:30):
is a global event and when people think bring it
back down to New Zealand, oubt of everybody's timeline around
the world that care about this. So the smart thing
is to race it's up in the Northern Hemisphere, whether
it's the Barcelona or the Isle of Wight or even

(29:52):
in the United States and have the hosting rights and
make that money because we've got no money compared to
these big countries. So the idea is that we are
the hosts of the Cup, but we need to whatever
we can to make as much money as possible to
actually have a team in the event. Because we don't

(30:15):
have a billionaire backing our team. We just have a
bunch of hustlers trying to get a boat on the
water to start with, and then put a boat on
the water, whereas these guys can just pay for it
for themselves. So the fact that we've got a team
in this competition with no billionaire or millionaire backing just

(30:40):
goes to show the intense investment that goes in from
people with nothing to build something. So I'm really proud
of those guys.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Good man, Chris very Well said, very well said it
even quiet and you're chicken down in the background there
she was listening in as well. Good to chatty mate.
Thanks Indean, Hi Rojer.

Speaker 16 (31:02):
Yeah, hi piney mate. The sport is so involved as awesome. Now,
I think it should be viewed in more of a
World Cup format, whereas you know, like the FIFA World
Cup or the Rugby World Cup, where maybe if a
country or or has invested in their team for a
certain amount of years and they get a chance to
sort of you know, bid for bid for the to

(31:24):
hold the event. You know, I went to school up
in Orbnam and hawks play. Now you know, we can
all just hang out on the shore and you know,
on the harbor up at Devenport and just you know,
watch these boats go by. I think the sport's just
so much bigger now, this is up there with Formula
one to me, mate and not. I just think we
need to grow it and it needs to be offshore
and someone that you know, I've I've invested three years

(31:46):
with so many million, they deserve a shot at holding it,
whether they're the holders or not. That's my view mate, what.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
You're yeah, I think I think that's what sale GP
has done has sort of opened up something similar to
what you're suggesting there, Roger, and that you know, an
event goes around the world to a bunch of different places.
Some of them don't even have a I was gonna
say horse in the race, a boat in the race,
but they still host a sle GP event. America's Cup

(32:12):
would at work. I mean a lot of red tape
and a lot of you know, raw book stuff there.
But I think sol GP is doing what you're suggesting.

Speaker 16 (32:21):
Yeah, I'd just like to see it on the ultimate
stage made and the other Yeah, I think jealous. I
mean I think when the wind wind velocities get up,
this is just amazing. Now, these guys they fall off,
they break equipment, just because we had some lighter winds.
You know, it came down to a bit more tectives.
But ye, when that when those knots get up, man,
it's came on. I made Anything's possible, you know, good.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Man, Roger, what are you? What's going on in your background?

Speaker 10 (32:43):
Out?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I can hear noise in your background as well. You
haven't got chickens as well?

Speaker 16 (32:46):
Heavy just a nah dodgy old feed up the rock
was undred and thirty on the clips. I think I
don't know what's renting the air content or the flooding engines.
I tried to hurt my boss up for a new one,
but he just skeeps harming me off.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Brilliant, Yeah, calls the Greatness afternoon. Good on you, Roger,
Thanks mate, I appreciate it very much. Eighteen to one
back with more after the.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The Big issues on and after Fields Call eight hundred
eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Paine and GJ.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Gunner homes New Zealand's first trusted home Bilder News Talk.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Bbcord It to One, Greg says, did you notice one
of our team in zed Crewe wearing red sox? What
a great tribute to Sir Peter Blake. Yeah that was
Cameron Webster. I noticed that. Yeah, great to see him
wearing the red Sox and tribute to Sir Peter Blake.
Back to the phones, Thanks for holding angus, good afternoon.

Speaker 17 (33:37):
Yeah, finey, how you are?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You're good man, You're very good.

Speaker 17 (33:39):
Hey, I might have missed it. Did you get up
and watch it?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Did I get up and watch it?

Speaker 11 (33:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I did not, No he didn't.

Speaker 17 (33:45):
No, No, that's all good. I hate you talking about
Formula one earlier in any Formula one then will know
getting up at that hour is just absolutely so.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, no I didn't get up to watch it. I was.
I had a bit of a late one last night,
wrapping up after the football and stuff, and I had
an early flight home this morning, so I didn't. But
I'm going to get up tomorrow. I wanted to watch
the cricket. I don't mind getting up early. To watch stuff.
This one just didn't quite quite take not at all.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Bonnyman.

Speaker 17 (34:14):
The other thing I was going to say, and speaking
of kind of that coverage and whatnot, did there wasn't
much attention drawn to the fact that it was all
it was all free, you know, you can get it
on YouTube or online. And I think that was actually
really good this year. I can't recall that's always been
the case or not, but I actually thought that was
really good just to kind of build that promotion as well.
Again coming from a Formula one fan, you know you
got to pay ninety bucks a year to watch Formula

(34:35):
One or you know you got Sky Sport, so I
usually thought it was really cool just to have that
free to weird everybody, so, you know, just to build
it and stuff. And I think you're talking about Nathan
Alder's really obviously made him. He's actually but he's really
compote and he might as well be a hit, but
he's kind of like and I think a lot of
people forget it too. Just before him as well was

(34:56):
Glenn Eshby.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It was also an Australian, so you know there are
some good Australians out there. Angus. Well, the sounds of it.
Nathan Outridge is one of them. Glenn Eshby as well. Yeah,
look I totally agree with the free to air stuff
as well. Very accessible. It wasn't people had no excuse
if they wanted to watch it. They could watch it, right,
they had access to it.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (35:16):
And the other thing too, how give the graphics and
the content? Yeah again or free to wear It's kind
of something again and I'm obviously just Formula one bias here,
but that's the kind of you know, what you'd expect
from a Formula one or something.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So hey, now, well I've got you. Then can you
explain this grid penalty to me? Liam Lawson's grid penalty
or not?

Speaker 18 (35:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (35:33):
Yeah, I can real quickly. So basically, each part the
certain number of power units out or power units engines
they call them pus for short power units engines, which
just keep it easy. Engines engine components to the car,
and it's essentially part of the budget cap to make
sure that you know, back in the day Formula one
they used to put a new engine in new bi rats,
but they've gone down to sustainability routes. They don't do
that anymore. So essentially you're allowed, I believe it's four

(35:55):
ices or four p us per year. It might be five,
don't quote me on that. But basically, if you go
over your allocation because of reliability issues, basically you fit
a new engine, but you've reached the rules, gone over
your allocations, that means that you get put to the
back of the cred. You get a call it gred penalty. Basically,
you get so I think it's about five places per
per component component. Basically, if he's going to qualify a

(36:17):
him the fifteenth and the twenty place cred, you might
as well just take a sixty place grad penalty and
that will be the equivalent of about six parts five
times six. That's essentially what he's done. So they just
keep putting new pasts in it. You can't start any
further back in twenty, so you might as well.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Fit more parts, gotcha? Okay?

Speaker 17 (36:33):
In a nutshell, So does that sort of makes sense?
There's sort of the the sort of the layman stems,
but essentially it's just part of their budget cap and
the sustainability and we're not on the route they've gone down.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Makes perfect sense, thanks Angus.

Speaker 17 (36:44):
Yeah, so yes, this is the lamb because it's Daniel's
car he got, he takes the car. It doesn't matter
who the driver is.

Speaker 16 (36:50):
It's the car.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
So yeah, good man Angus, Tom Manks, Thanks, it's yeah,
no very that. I was hoping someone would explain it
to me. I was going to get an expert on
but I just had one ring up. Thanks mate, I
appreciate it very much. Really appreciate you call Fillip Hi.

Speaker 19 (37:07):
Yeah, Hi Jason, Yeah, I just want to make them.
I thought the America's Cup thing was absolutely awesome. But
I see that a lot of people don't. I don't
think they realize the male technology and design input from
New Zealand. You know, they think it's just a pretty
basic sort of but there's the technology behind it is
mind boggling as far as I'm concerned. I mean, we

(37:29):
had Old Peter on the radio this morning talking about
razine paints. You know, well, we supply the razine paint
to all those cups, all those cup boats.

Speaker 20 (37:37):
You know.

Speaker 19 (37:38):
It's just as I say, maybe you can find someone
that can say, listen, we're you know, the hydraulics, the electronics, everything,
the technical side of it. It's all yeah, New Zealand,
so much of it as New Zealand we don't really.
I don't think the average key we appreciates. You know
that anybody with any technical law engineering schools will be

(38:00):
blown away with you know, I saw them, you've seen
them smash testing the the foils. You know, they had
to test them to threety odd tons or something and
when it when it smashed a bit, they just you know,
they were in raptures that, you know, the Italians had
done that unfortunately, but the team work, the whole lot

(38:21):
was But I just think someone needs to explain to
the average t we how much input we've actually put
into it.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah. I think you've done a good job of starting
a conversation, Philip. A lot of people have texted exactly
the same thing, saying that there is I mean, we
are we are world leading when it comes to building
these things.

Speaker 19 (38:40):
Yeah, yes, yeah, it goes back to Formula one. You
know all the input from Formula one we have been there. Yeah,
you know a lot of the groundwork.

Speaker 21 (38:50):
For that fire is on today.

Speaker 19 (38:52):
So yeah, anyway, that's awesome. Nice, Uh, nice conversation.

Speaker 22 (38:57):
Just keep it up.

Speaker 19 (38:58):
But yeah, it was awesome for keeping all, for New
Zealand to win. It didn't seem to be too many
big New Zealand signs you know got don't you know
that was a little bit small, wasn't that we had
the Emirates, big Emirates and that the sponsors. But still
it was still I think everybody over there knew it
was was New Zealand was racing for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
They certainly did fill up. They centered it. Yeah, I
think I think when you when you're getting investment from
the likes of Emirates and any you also the same.
And you know, I think it's mainly the sponsor that
gets the signage rather than the rather than the country.
But you're right, everybody knew it was a key we
team Mark. I've got about ninety seconds, mate, you reckon.
You can make a point in ninety seconds.

Speaker 21 (39:38):
A couple of points by goas on the congratulations on
your call last night from the home of New Zealand Sports.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, Mount Smart loved it.

Speaker 21 (39:50):
Yeah, two football teams. You must be like a kid
in the candy story. It sounded like it last night. Hey,
it was really weird this morning, because you know, there's
a parochial sports fan. I sort of felt nothing and
it was almost a bit of sat but I just
wanted to pay homage to the crew. I mean they
are a.

Speaker 23 (40:05):
Well clime and especially Hamish Bond, you know, after been
on a hot day. I think he's one of the
best sports people ever. It's just an incredible athlete and
you know, seeing him get off that boat and I
don't know what happened during the race, and sweet was
just strippling up the poor bugger and he says, I

(40:26):
don't even know what happened, but I'm sure I'll find
out matter. Really, just it's kind of for those those
cyclaws on board and probably don't get as much as
they deserve.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh and and they don't You're right, Mark, they don't
get to see anything. They don't even put their heads up.
They just they might as well be in someone someone's basement.
Those guys just you know, just going hell for leather.
The others, Yeah, Cameron Webster, Google Allen, the former multi
sport Louis Crosby, another former cycler. Incredible the power that

(40:58):
they've generated for that boat.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Seven to one talks analyzing every view from every angle
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Speaker 2 (41:11):
Twelve fifty six News Next at One Thank you for
all your calls and correspondence on the America's Cup, a
whole heap of texts, a lot of them. I have
to say a lot in support of Grant Dalton and
what he's done, and as I said before, the ends
justifies the means in many ways. How can we retain
the America's Cup is the question at the center of

(41:34):
the conversation. He put it there, he knew it was
going to be polarizing. Now we can point to him
and say the old mug it's still in our possession.
Merely cur after.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
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Speaker 2 (41:57):
Us Talks one seven. WelCom in. This is Weekend Sport
on News Talks NB. I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald's show producer.
We're until three. Next hour, we want to talk about
a Formula one Liam Lawson. We've got a great explanation
from one of our talkback callers last hour on the
reason for his grid penalty. We'll talk to more Liam

(42:20):
Lawson slash Formula one after two o'clock and Silver Ferns
as well Meddi Gordon's on the show. Constellation Cup four
Tests series against Australia starts tonight in Wellington, Wellington Phoenix
underway as well this afternoon. As you heard a lager
saying the sports news and there season opener against Western
United this afternoon, we'll hear from the new English slash
Nigerian goalkeeper Josh Allawa. Yemmy, how good was that Auckland

(42:43):
f c occasion yesterday? By the way, So what might
open the lines on that in a little while, especially
if you were there the vibe. I was lucky enough
to be there as well, up in the commentary box
and a little bit isolated up there as far as
the actual being down and amongst its concerned, but the

(43:03):
effects coming through from our sound people on incredible. What
a day. If you were there, I'd love to hear
your experiences. We can do that. James Piconi's along at
some stay if I want to start with cricket, because
the White Ferns have made their first tea twenty Cricket
World Cup final since twenty ten.

Speaker 22 (43:23):
Not enough and New Zealand legends Susie Biggs, Sophie Divine
here to who who have turned the tables on the
Western Nies and finally they have exercised the gorse of
twenty sixteen and they are into the final of the
ICC Women's T twenty World Cup twenty.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Twenty four three o'clock tomorrow morning. They'll face South Africa
in the final. White Ferns all round. Emily Kerr has
had a superb tournament, particularly with the ball, and she
joins us now on weekend sport Melee. Thanks for taking
our call. New Zealand will play in the T twenty
World Cup final. Is that a sentence that you thought
you'd be hearing a fortnight or so ago.

Speaker 20 (44:09):
It's a great center it used to be able to
hear now that we're here and you know, obviously it's
been a tough year for us, but I think world
Cups anything can happen. There's obviously more pressure one off games,
and you know, this World Cup you've probably seen a
lot of results that haven't been expected and it's one

(44:31):
great for the women's game, I think. But we've always
had the belief that we can get to this position
and have the chance to win a World Cup with
the players we have, and yeah, to be here now
after a tough yet pretty special.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
What do you think you've done particularly well as a
team at this World Cup.

Speaker 20 (44:53):
I think one, we've taken a lot of learnings and
growth throughout the last year. We've trained really hard and
we've stayed positive despite what has said and what may
have happened. But also I think during this World Cup,
I think our bowling units really click. And I guess

(45:16):
the other thing is you've seen the likes of Eden
Cars and Georgia Plimmer as he gave three really young
players in our groups step up on the world stage
and they've been outstanding. And I think this World Cup
there's been so many different contributors throughout and that's how
it leads to the results we've had and it's been
awesome to see.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I want to talk a bit more about a couple
of those players in a seck, but can I ask
you about the semi final against the West Indies one
twenty eight for nine in your twenty overs in the
innings break Mealy, did that feel like enough?

Speaker 20 (45:51):
I mean you always want more runs to defend, but
actually I did think that will be enough and we
give ourselves a chance. I think at Chaja, the outfield
was really slow, So I think that one eight is
actually almost like a one four tea on that wicket.
And we knew if we bowled well and how we'd

(46:12):
been bowling as a group, that we were in the game.
And also, you know, you see that finals crickets those
funny things to people when there's pressure involved. You know,
you can either go within yourself or you can express yourself.
Then I thought we were outstanding to start. Obviously Dotton
gave us a bit of a skier there, and the

(46:33):
way she can strike the ball, it doesn't matter about
a slow outfield when you can hit it into the stands.
But yeah, it was it was. I thought that one
twenty eight gave us a real shot to be able
to win the game. And yeah, we got across the line,
and you always want more, but yeah, at the halfway point,
definitely believed.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, well it turned out to be enough, that's for sure.
Can I take you back to the opening game against India,
a really comprehensive fifty eight run when you bowled them
out for one hundred and two in nineteen overs. How
much confidence did that win in your opening game give you?

Speaker 20 (47:11):
Yeah, that was a huge win. We knew how important
that game was, and having India and Australia first up,
you know kind of they were huge. So to put
in there away like that was outstanding.

Speaker 24 (47:24):
I mean, Sophie was with the.

Speaker 20 (47:25):
Bat set that total up and to bowl a team
out like that was some of world class batters for
one hundred was outstanding. But I think that's been throughout
the whole world cut This bowling unit has been. Yeah,
this bowling unit has been so impressive. Everyone steps up

(47:45):
in their different roles at different times and even not
gone for many runs or keep picking up key wickets.

Speaker 24 (47:51):
And it's been so good to see.

Speaker 20 (47:54):
And yeah, come the game tomorrow, you want to express
yourself again and play like there's nothing to lose, even
though there's a whole lot of pressure and it's a big,
big day. But that's what all the hard works for
and what kind of dream over the young kid.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
We mentioned Eden Carson before three for twenty nine in
the semi final, three crucial wickets and just you know,
a further development for her. What have you seen merely
from Eden Carson in her development as a bowler.

Speaker 20 (48:25):
I think she just keeps getting better and better. We've
got great a great spin coach with us at the moment,
Paul Wiseman, and at camps, you know, they bowl a lot,
and I think she's been working on trying to turn
the ball more and getting a lot of overspin as
well as her her arm ball and you know, being

(48:45):
an off spinner bowling digovers in the power play and
the way she has is outstanding. And it's just about
backing herself and the plans we have and she's taken
it on. She's been so important for us. And it's
so often to see the young players step Park I
think of you know, Fran as well. It's just they're

(49:05):
pretty cool, calm and collected for the age they are
and the experience I've had, and they're going to have
long careers for New Zellen and it's exciting.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And what about Georgia Plummer, your blaze TEAMMATEE, can you
give us a bit of you know, a bit of
insight into what you've seen from her and her growth
as a as a T twenty opener, because it's been
what hasn't been a straight line, has it. It's been
a bit of a rocky road for Georgia Plummer.

Speaker 20 (49:33):
Yeah, I think one Georgie's resilience has been outstanding, and
you know, I get to see her a lot behind
the scenes, having getting to play with her at Wellington,
so I've always known her ability.

Speaker 24 (49:46):
And how good she is.

Speaker 20 (49:47):
She's also one of the hardest workers, and you know,
sometimes it takes an innings to help build that confidence
and I think that's fifty against Australia really really helped her.
But it's always been there. She's always played with positive
intent and I think T twenty cricket's pretty fickle, so
you know you're going to fail a little bit, especially

(50:08):
when you're being aggressive. And for her, she's stuck to
her game plan and the success and the rewards happening
for her at the moment, and that's so pleasing to see,
knowing how hard she's worked and the criticism she's faced.
But yeah, she's been so important for us up top
and the power play and she's setting the tone.

Speaker 24 (50:24):
So yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Awesome to see.

Speaker 20 (50:27):
And you know she's only twenty still, so that's another
player in our group that's got a long career ahead
of her.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Now, I know from experience you don't like talking about
yourself very much, but I'm going to ask you about
your bowling superb. The numbers themselves are terrific in terms
of the wickets you've taken. You're run spur over. What's
going well for you at the bowl increase.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Well.

Speaker 20 (50:52):
I guess over here the conditions probably suit spin a
lot more than I guess around the world and back home.
I am just really clearing my plans. I've got my
variation with my and that's been coming out really well.
And I think also games been set up well in
terms of partnership bowling, and I want to steep up

(51:15):
in the big moments and at the moment we don't
have the ball in hand, I've got a lot of
confidence and the work I've done, and also just the
spin group we have. I absolutely love bowling. I think
in my career this is the most enjoyment I've had
with my bowling, and that comes down to the coaches
and also the spin group we have because they make
it so fun.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'm trying to remember the last time you played South Africa.
It seems like an awfully long time ago in t twenty. Anyway,
I'm trying to find a frame of reference here. How
do you reckon your match up against South Africa in
t twenty.

Speaker 20 (51:50):
Yeah, we know South Africa quality cyber world class players
and we did have a series against them a year
ago where we played there's a few rainouts that we
played a couple of tea twenties and we actually played
quite well against them. Obviously, that's a year ago and
were here now in completely different conditions, so we know

(52:11):
what they are capable of. There's so much footage now
that you know they'll be scouting us, we'll be doing
the same. And at the end of the day, I
think in those big pressure moments, it's almost about who
takes the first Punch's who's going to be the most fearless,
and that's what it's going to come down to, and
backing our skills and when it gets tough, trying to
stay level and stick together, which we've done so well

(52:33):
throughout this whole tournament.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
It must be quite cool, is it, Because you know,
if you're in the final, you get to stay at
the stay at the hotel right till the end. You
know everybody else is just about god home, but you guys,
you guys are still there. It must be quite a
it must be quite a cool feeling and a fair
a fairly excited camp of players as you look forward
to the final.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
Is it.

Speaker 20 (52:55):
Definitely? I mean we have all experienced the feeling of
being knocked out and having to tack our bags and
get out the next day. So it's a much better
position to be in today where you know we've got
one more game, it's the last game, and we are
a chance to do something pretty special and yeah, who
would have thought? And it's it's awesome for I think

(53:20):
our country, for New Zealand, we've shown this fight and
this determination that I think so many Kiwis show and
the resilience which I think represents our nation in our
country so well. So bring on Sunday. It's exciting and
you know, we know that the country is behind us also,
but we also want to deal in crowd.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Well, I know there'll be a lot of alarms set
for three o'clock in the morning Monday morning, merely to
get up and see if you can take that one
final step. Thanks so much for chatting to us as always,
congratulations on when you are the team of a chief
so far. Let's hope there's one more, one more terrific
performance and you look forward to seeing how you go
in the final.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Thanks Jas, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Melee Kerr There Amelia Kur No One most commonly is
Mealy though and a big part of this New Zealand
side for quite some time. Three o'clock tomorrow morning in
New Zealand against South Africa and the T twenty Cricket
World Cup Final. I'm keening up in the lines on this.
We did this yesterday. We had a bit of chat
about it yesterday after we spoke to Katie Martin, but

(54:18):
we couldn't get everybody on the air. Basically when no
one expected this today, Nobody rarely at the start of
this tournament thought that we would be a chance of
winning the whole thing. I think we I think most
people kind of were fit well, I don't know if
we were confident, but thought okay, we could make the
semis here in a group that had Australia in it.

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It meant that we had to beat the other three,
but we did, and on any given day in T
twenty that is within the reach of this side. However,
that's a good Indian side that New Zealand beat first up,
and as merely Kurger said then, that gave them a
real confidence boost to start the tournament and they've gone
on with it to win the semi final against the

(55:01):
West Indies side. You know, West Indies are typically typically
believe a durant and unpredictable in the T twenty format,
and you know one twenty eight is not a big
score batting first. But the bowling was good, really really good.
South Africa have had a very good tournament. They have
probably been the team of the tournament. I would say,

(55:24):
I venture that would be a fairly I don't think
it's a bold claim. It's going to look at their results.
They've done extremely well. Lost to England, but other than
that they've been dominant and beat Australia in the semi finals,
so that's not to be sneezed at. They are probably favorite.
But are you going to get up? Because I'm not
sure at the start of the tournament people would have
been saying, you know what, I'm going to get up
and watch the T twenty Women's Cricket World Cup final.

(55:45):
But there'll be a lot of people sitting their alarm
tomorrow morning. You have had some nights of it, haven't we,
those of us who like our sport. On the other
side of the world, the likes of the America's Cup,
which thankfully is now over as far as the lack
of sleep is concerned. The cricket obviously, and yeah, so
if you are going to get up, if you want
to make past comments on the on the White Ferns

(56:07):
would love that and the Black Caps as well. We
could win a Test in India for the first time
since nineteen eighty eight. Now, I didn't see any of
this yesterday. Unfortunately, I've only got one set of eyes
and they weren't on the Black Caps yesterday. But if
you watched, can you just maybe unpack this for us

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as well? The fact that when play resumes on day five,
New Zealand need one hundred and seven runs with all
ten second in its wickets and hands to beat India.
India forty six and four hundred and sixty two New
Zealand four hundred and two and none for none. The

(56:51):
only sticking point here is the weather and Andy alerted
me to this that there is a eighty percent chance
of rain in ben Gilarue on day five and it
says here are forty eight percent chance of thunder storms,
but it is hours of rain. This is very very

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comprehensive weather forecast hours of rain three So there's a
predicted three hours of rain. So that's okay because there's
more than three hours in a day's test cricket as
we know, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on
one or both or either team representing us at the moment. Hey, Peter,

(57:32):
how are you.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
Well?

Speaker 15 (57:34):
I'm just tired, god smacked with the weekend. Firstly, I
watched by a Plenty play and I'm from the Bay
of Plenty, and then saw White cat O miss out
but are still great games, and then saw the America's cap,
then heard about the girls. It's just like an unbelievable weekend,

(57:57):
it really is. And I've got to get up on Monday.

Speaker 18 (58:01):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You have to get up to watch a final. You'll
have to watch the Black Caps a bit later on
this after noon. It could be one of the all
time great sporting weekends.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Peter A fantastic.

Speaker 15 (58:10):
I think it's a long week end next weekend too.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It is, it is, yes, it is, And yeah, the
All Blacks are back in action next weekend as well.
If you follow there and say it, yeah, because people
often say it. He has starting to quieten down. I
think it's the opposite, Peter. I think it's starting to
ramp up.

Speaker 15 (58:26):
Oh that's mate, No, don't go well everyone.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Good bye, good on your Peter, thanks for calling in.
Just a just a burst of enthusiasm from Peter.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
I love it. Uh that game back in nineteen eighty eight,
I sall seven, look at the scoreboard for that that
was played and where was it played? One Kedy Stadium,
November nineteen eighty eight. We'll get to that in a sec.
That you in New Zealand one hundred and seven away
from victory in this Test match. And as far as

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the White Ferns are concerned, anything can happen in the
game of T twenty cricket. As we know, they are
a red hot chance. They do the things that they're
done well consistently across the forty overs. Tomorrow morning they
can have some silverware.

Speaker 20 (59:13):
Snow.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Hello, yeah, hello, how are you very good mate?

Speaker 11 (59:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (59:19):
Well on from the Bay of Penny two. So we've
had a great weekend. Just yes, naturally it's been fantastic,
but locally it's been wonderful too.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
The lads really got up in the.

Speaker 25 (59:31):
Second half against Canterbury yesterday. It was wonderful to be
at the trone of domain watching it.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Oh you went along, yeah, went along?

Speaker 25 (59:39):
Right, Yeah, well you know we don't you know. It's
just good to see your team do well and that
NPC this year has been fantastic. But it didn't want
to call me on the cricket actually, you know the
Friday night there watching Ravender just that you know, was
just sensational, wasn't it. You know, And you see the
lineup of Indian players, I mean the world class on

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any on any stage, and you know we have humble them.
That's been really enjoyable and very very proud to Senior
Zealand do so well.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
He's an absolute gun right in Revendra, isn't he. You know,
he could be he could be anything.

Speaker 18 (01:00:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's so good because the Indians almost take them
all as one of their own.

Speaker 11 (01:00:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Ye.

Speaker 25 (01:00:24):
One thing that disappointed me a little bit yesterday was
when the when the game was called off for bad light.
The Indian players and Coley was particularly bad, were quite belligerent,
you know, and wanted them to continue. But it was
just about pitch black and only within ten minutes a thunderstorm.
Light you don't see very often I co'd so I

(01:00:44):
thought they were a little bit out of order there,
but I guess that's just the competitive nature of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Oh yeah, indeed, Yeah, no, they'll they'll do anything they can.
I mean they're behind in the test mat. It's very
much behind. One O seven is one of those nigglely totals,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
It's all like you've got to go out there and
get thirty one hundred, like if we're if we're forty
for four, then we'll start getting a bit nervous. I'm
not gonna I'm not saying that's going to happen, but
I'd also say it's very achievable, doesn't it. One O seven?
I think, okay, we can get one o seven surely,
Look they.

Speaker 25 (01:01:11):
Should get it, mate. We've got we've got some class
there in our own batting lineup, and they just need
and they'll. I think they'll do it. You know, it
won't be it won't be given, you know, like you can.

Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
Well, look, hey, look we've got a world.

Speaker 25 (01:01:23):
Class line out line up out for forty six, so anybody.
Cricket's a funny game and anything could happen. But I
think they'll do it, you know, I think they've got
the heads.

Speaker 14 (01:01:33):
In the right place.

Speaker 25 (01:01:34):
And as long as the weather holds off and we
only get the three hours of rain, I did enjoy
that weather forecast actually, But anyway, go to girls as well.
What a great weekend, wonderful. I really enjoy watching the
woman's cricket team and all the Woman the World woman teams.
They all really enjoy the game and I love the

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way they.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
Smile and laugh.

Speaker 25 (01:01:58):
And it was good to see Ravender smiling a lot
while he was batting, especially when.

Speaker 16 (01:02:02):
Sally hit that mack of six.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
You know, it's just about cracked.

Speaker 25 (01:02:05):
Up, you know, hey, it was so good.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
It was really enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah, good on your note, good comments, well made. Yeah,
good stuff mate. I'll look forward to saying your bay
of plenty against by Wellington and the NPC final next weekend.

Speaker 18 (01:02:16):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It'll be a it'll be a good one to watch.
Thanks for calling in. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Mark hold there with you. Right after this, Gavin says,
another thing in our favor is that India have already
used up one of their reviews in the second innings.
I hadn't picked up on that, Gavin. That's good and
go to the white ferns, says Gavin. As well, let's
just update some some domestic cricket while we've got the opportunity.

(01:02:40):
It's round one of the Ford Trophy today. This is
the fifty over domestic competition with games in three different centers,
including Wellington, which I have to say has turned on
an absolute pearla today. Unfortunately the Wellington Firebirds haven't taken
advantage of it at all, bowled out for one hundred
and twenty nine by Canterbury today who will shortly go

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out in the chase for one hundred and thirty. In
New Plymouth, the Central Stags won the toss in Auckland
and one thirty six for two they are after thirty
four overs. And in fargard A Northern Districts sent otago
in and in the fortieth over they are two hundred
and ten for five. So those are the four trophy
scores as we have them at the moment. One twenty eight.

(01:03:23):
Talking abut a cricket, anything you want to pick up
on with the men, with the women, and also if
you were in Auckland FC's inaugural fixture at go Media
Mount Smart yesterday, i'd love to love to hear from you,
just kid, it's quick, yell if you were there and
tell me what it was like out there in the
you know, in the general seating, if you were in
the active support behind the goal that Auckland were attacking

(01:03:46):
in the second half, or just your general experience at
the game. I'd love to hear that as well. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to a
text one twenty nine back after.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
One thirty one. James McCarney before too, Josh, did you
go along yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:04:11):
Mate?

Speaker 10 (01:04:11):
Now book on their ce today first football football game
while we've been to my life you know Rubby Rubby
man for Worriors man. And I thought, you know, Bugaret
because the young fella, you know, like they all they
were into soccer these days. Mate, you know, so I'm
not going to be a prole proud you know, so
I thought, you know, we'll go along. Luckily enough, I've
got this high role of mate, who's got for the

(01:04:32):
dollars and he actually had peace for us in the
corporate one of the corporate suits so mean. And I
tell you what, they've got all these supporters down the India.
I don't know how they jacked it up. Maybe it
was the Facebook Baseball group started up or something like that.
But they've got their champion and all that real good atmosphere.
They had this massive sly that goes down for the kids.
That was you know, probably made by the Mowbray you know,

(01:04:53):
like I don't know, mate, it was awesome. Ali Willie,
Ali Williams made some Ali Williams made some force with
our Air Force aka Body Peter Jackson's Museum Buddy split
fires fly over us. No, it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
That's I what a great ramp from your as well, Rillian.
So you reckon you might go back for a game
or two.

Speaker 10 (01:05:12):
I'm on board, mate, I'm a I'm a footage fanel
The thing is man Like, you know, I watched that
Bloody Docco. You know that Wrexham Docco. You know that's
got me into you know, probably soccer whatever whatever you
want to caught more than you know than I probably
ever was. And you know, like you know it's just
kids these days, mate, you know, like the reality is
a lot of them you're not playing contact sports and
their appearents are too soft to make them play rugby

(01:05:33):
league that kind of games. Now, we're more than happy
to watch other people do it and enjoy it, but
when it comes to their own kids, you know, a
lot of them don't want to play you know, contact sports,
or we don't want to want them to play it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
So you know it's good.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
You know, like we've got an auctand's got a team now, mate,
We're the biggest city in New Zealand.

Speaker 19 (01:05:47):
Why haven't we had a team?

Speaker 10 (01:05:48):
And I guess it takes smart people to do things
like this, and probably you know those Mowbrays and a
Mobray and and Ali Williams where she called herself now
you know in a Williams. I guess you, mate, she
knows what she's doing.

Speaker 20 (01:06:02):
I think.

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
So it's my good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Excellent, what a great call, mate, Thank you for calling in.
Call back again anytime man and you get along again.
It's I think yesterday was obviously hyped up because of
opening game. A lot of you know, a lot of
hype around about it, but the experience was terrific. And
you're right about the they're called the port the ones
who are behind the goal that that I was going
to say the Phoenix goodness mean that Auckland f C
scored into in the second half. Yeah, they got together

(01:06:27):
as a I think you're right on social media but
of a Facebook group got together, got all their chance,
they marched to the game and just yeah, just Raally
added something. And that's the thing about football that you
do get that you don't get at rugby at all.
You get it to a certain extent at rugby league typically.
You know the Warriors fans are you know, they make
a lot of noise, but football fans around the world

(01:06:50):
make a lot of noise and it's great to see
that it's happening in New Zealand as well. If you're
in the port, they stand up the whole time. You
don't sit down, You stand, you chant, you clap, you sing,
you do whatever it takes. And to watch Auckland score
their second goal in the second half in front of
that that part of the ground was just awesome. Man,

(01:07:11):
just so good. Josh, thanks for you cool. I hope
you can I hope you can get your mate to
get you back into the corporate areas again. Now, Mark,
how are you feeling about your Canterbury rugby team dipping
out in the semi finals.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Yeah, Prince's appointing. Not sorry for both, Harmon it was
this last game yesterday, so yeah, and Richard Drummond you
feel sorry for today? The sun still shine today. That's
the main thing I've got. Where we stopped on for
the America's Cup boys, that was fantastic, well done for
the Premier Seeing the black Caps, I'm look, can't wait

(01:07:49):
till four o'clock. I'll sit down and have a hold
one and watch the black Caps or not tonight and
then put asleep. Then what's the what's the arm? I'll
watch them look over, then watch the White Things tomorrow morning.
So kind of bit.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
I love more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Sports, and I know you do, Mark. I know I've seen, look,
I've seen photo evidence of that.

Speaker 20 (01:08:11):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
You you're a supporter of all of our teams. You're
on the black Caps. If it doesn't rain one hundred
and seven, it feels like that shouldn't be too difficult.
I feel like it needs someone like Conway or or
someone like that to get you know, to get thirty
quickly or something like that, and then we should be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
And Tom Lathami, oh ye're good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Canterbary boy, there you go. What are your kidnamed? One
of your Canvary men?

Speaker 11 (01:08:34):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Hey, Now you'll be able to you'll be able to
give an impartial answer to this. Who do you reckon
is going to win the n PC final? Wellington or
Bay of Plenty? Now that Canterbury aren't in it, who's
gonna win?

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I'm not since some bail plun hasn't won it for
thirty odd years. I want to see bail Plenty, you know,
someone someone different for can like the Canaries Wellington's orphans.
I want to see bilter on it next week?

Speaker 20 (01:09:02):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
All right, Mark, all right, Mark, Well, I mean, I'm
sure you can still be friends even though you know
that I'm hoping for a Wellington win. But you're right
your bay ya bay Plenty? Is it nineteen seventy three?
Does that year ring a bell? That's that's what's that?
That's that's a lot. It's fifty years ago. It's fifty
years since they won it. Have I got that right?

Speaker 22 (01:09:23):
Short?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
And they must have won it since then? Surely anyway
anyway it might It might not matter Mark, because Wellington
lines might get up and win it. We'll see goodness
yet to you mate, I hope you enjoy all the
sport that's coming your way over the next little while.
Michael sent a message about the nineteen sixty nine Test
series between New Zealand and India in India. In nineteen

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sixty nine, says Michael, New Zealand drew a series in India.
In the third Test, with the series at one all,
India was set two hundred and sixty eight to win.
On the last day they were seventy six for seven
when a thunderstorm struck early in the afternoon. The ground
staff were unwilling to assist with mopping up and the

(01:10:05):
umpires stopped the New Zealand is trying to dry out
the pitch area. Play never resumed and then there was
a crowd riot. Anyway, New Zealand was dulled out of
what would have been a first ever series win. Thanks Michael.
Just looking back at the scorecard from November of nineteen
eighty eight, thirty six years ago when New Zealand last

(01:10:28):
won a Test in India. Batting first, New Zealand two
hundred and thirty six, Mark great Batch forty six, John
Bracewell batting at number nine fifty two goodness me two
thirty six. India then bowled out for two hundred and
thirty four, so just a two run lead. Richard Hadley
Sir Richard six for forty nine. New Zealand wanted a

(01:10:51):
bat again and scored two hundred and seventy nine Andrew
Jones seventy eight, Ian Smith fifty four in little thirties
from John Right and Mark great Batch. So that set
India about two hundred and seventy seven to win. Bowled
out for one hundred and forty five, John Brace Will

(01:11:15):
six for fifty one. Richard Hadle four for thirty nine,
so what's that ten wickets for ten for eighty eight,
ten for eighty eight in the match for Sir Richard,
but he didn't get maud of the match. Brace's did
for his six for in the second innings in his fifty.
Now Sir Richard felt about that anyway. That was the

(01:11:38):
last time we beat India in India, where one hundred
and seven runs away from doing it again. Today, Dan
says I went to the Auckland f C game at
Mount smart last night, fantastic. Took my two kids under
the age of eleven, sat in the general setting right
and behind the goal. Amazing atmosphere. I watched my first

(01:12:00):
A League game when the Phoenix were in the semi
finals last year and that was where I heard about
Auckland FC starting up. I said to my son we
should go along to a game. We will definitely go
along again. Amazing experience, fantastic people and very safe with
the kids. Dan, that's great, what a great endorsement. The
great thing is, mate, that they play every other week,

(01:12:22):
not just a one off. In fact, they've got a
game this coming Sunday well or week today, so they've
got two home games to start. So if you want
to take you boys back Sunday Next Sunday Sydney FC
four o'clock, it's beang on twenty to two. Let's get
a breakaway when we come back. James mcconey, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
They'd be seventeen to two Sunday afternoons mean a few things,
but they mean James mcconey, did the Port sing your
Nando Pineker Fernando Abber crossover yesterday?

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
No, I don't know if they did. I'm not sure
because Louis Toomey wasn't playing it all my to me songs,
you know, nothing really matters to me. They didn't get
played either, so I don't know if any of the
songs that Haga do do do Push Pineakers, shake a
tree that didn't make it either. So I mean, look,
I thought the atmosphere looked incredible. But what a day

(01:13:27):
for the club and for New Zealand football.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
James so good, It was so good, and you know
in so many ways. And look you have to you
have to hand it to Walkland FC. They gave it
a lot of market and grunt. You know, they really
got out there and tried to publicize this football club
and the first game and people turned up, man, and
it was so good there yesterday. And that's a great
venue too, a rectangular ground in which to watch a

(01:13:51):
game of football.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Yeah, well it's that full and I mean this is
a thing. It was perfect with a great result. I
hear it was perfect. Commentary as well. Pine. I mean,
if you have all those stars aligned, then you'll get in.
You'll get the return crowd. There was probably I don't
know what the crowd was, but they'll definitely get ten
to twelve zerand of them coming back for game two,

(01:14:13):
won't they?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, they were. It was twenty four twenty four there yesterday,
So you're right, even if only half of them come
back for game two, if people turn up to watch
something because it was new and different and it's the
first game of the season, all that you're right, the
experience will mean that they'll I've had so many messages
from people saying they're taking their kids and their kids
go on, when's thet when's the next game? And buy

(01:14:34):
me a shirt?

Speaker 20 (01:14:36):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
And this is the thing is the recruitment. I've got
to give them a pat on the back really for that.
They need their flowers for selecting players who people may
not have heard of, but they are actually legit top
level players. So Orki Saka is a genuine international star
three World Cups for Japan, so you know he's their captain.

(01:14:58):
But also guys like Louis Vestrata, a twenty five year
old defensive midfielder. I mean, let's just be honest, Piney
number six. That position is the most important position in
your team. Generally everyone goes on about their creative players,
but if you haven't got one of those guys running
the tutter and every every top coach knows it, then
your team doesn't function.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
He was man of the match yesterday, a terrific player,
and I look, it's a leg important. We've never heard
of them, right, I'd never heard of Louis of the Strata,
but they heard him now. He looked good the yesterday.
But it was good to see the local boys too.
Logan Rogerson scoring a goal. You know, Liam Gillian a
scholarship player. You know, he sort of earned the stripes
at Auckland City now at Auckland f C. It was

(01:15:41):
just it was just a great day all round. Now
black Caps and White Ferns can they could? Can they
both win over the next sort of I don't know,
eighteen hours or so.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
Yeah, look, I think I think they can. And the
White Fans is a great story, really sort of a
Cinderella story because they were the team that was always
sort of coughing and sputtering, but looked like they had
this core of talent and what was going to you know,
when were they all going to But I just admire
the way they've kept, you know, improving and showing up

(01:16:13):
in pressure moments. But you know, someone like Amelia cur
just showing how world class she is with Badam ball,
and I mean that she's she's really sort of stood
up to the point where we've got a superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
There well, without question, without question in the Black Caps.
We're only need one hundred and seven. The rain stays away,
and you know, we could win a Test in India
for the first time since nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
James, I know, and look, I need to sorry for
quoting Alanas Morrissette, but thank you India for actually putting
us on a perch that takes seaman swing bowling for starters.
So thank you for that. But also thank you India
for playing us, giving us the respect of putting out

(01:17:00):
what is their top eleven, the first eleven really just
seeing what South Africa sent over to he' Zealand last
time I just thought was so poor, but in the
air giving us showing us the respect. This Cole header
is you know, all those big stars punts and it's
all though all there, so to beat them on their

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home turf against their best players will be will be
a massive result.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Now can I ask you about the mouses of the man.
He's really just a kid wearing the fourteen jersey for
White Cuttle in their semi final against Wellington Olie Mathis.
I believe he's out of Hamilton Boys High. I thought
he was a loose forward. Did you see that try
he scored?

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
Yeah, I know, he's a freak of nature. Oli Mathis.
If you want to go and have fun, go on
YouTube and have a look at the New Zealand Secretary
Schools game from the last year or the year before,
and Oli Mathis just puts on a clinic of tries
and assist and yeah it was a sixty meter kicking
chase where he kicked the ball and then hacked in

(01:18:02):
her head as well, sort of volleyed her head and
then won the chase an open side flanker. He's actually
from why He, so he's a why He kid. And
Wayne Smith, when he spotted him as a kid, said hey,
I've been helping out at why He Rugby club and
the best best player at the club is a fourteen
year old schoolboy, and that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Was Ali Mackin.

Speaker 7 (01:18:23):
So now he's so even the professor's going, who the
hell is this? And he's got to the point, now
where what do you do with I actually thought that
Razors should take a punt on him and take him
over there, because it's an he's an outrageous talent, but
they don't know is he going to make like Eric
Rush and Jonah Loomu start in the in the forwards

(01:18:44):
and end up in the backs. I think I've heard
from White Cuts or and Chiefs people that he should
probably play in the backs and second five or when
look to be two best options there. But look, when
you've got someone like that, with those sorts of wheels,
you know, it doesn't always translate. You need to actually
love the dark arts and you need to want to

(01:19:05):
put your head and some horrible places. And that's why
you know Sam Caine and Richard McCall were great sevens
and even Josh Cromfeld. I don't know if Oli has
that necessarily in his DNA, So let him roam free.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Let him roam free. Indeed, Hoskins Satutu, what do you
predict for Hoskins Satutu?

Speaker 7 (01:19:27):
I think Hoskin Statutu will leave. So I think that
he he does have any injury and that's and that's
ruled him out of I think Razor was going to
call him back in for the Japan Test, but look,
he probably feels aggrieved over the over the this tenure
of Raises, but also the previous coaches as well, and

(01:19:47):
so I just think he you know, he can't buy
a trick, so he's he's looking. He's got the options
of Fiji or England. He qualifies this time next year.
I think it's been a three years stand now since
his last All Blacks tests. I think the selectors have
got it wrong. I reckon that he should have been
in the All Black squad. He was the best player

(01:20:09):
in Super rugby. You have to find a way to
get the best out of him or to fit your system.
But the emergence of Wallace atiti is probably feels like
the writings on the wall that even if he came back,
he'd still be behind an outrageous talent as well. So
maybe it's his best for him to go, and I

(01:20:29):
think you will.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
I'm trying to remember if I remember this correctly. But
at the back end of Super rugby. I'm pretty sure
if you asked most rugby fans they would have about
who If it was a choice between Sotutu and Satiti,
most would have gone Hoskins Sotuta, wouldn't they?

Speaker 7 (01:20:47):
Yeah, I think so. I mean Wallaston have the absolute
barnstorm of Sebi Final. But then yes, the great thing
with Satuto is that he can play all sorts. You know,
the Blues are their best work in wet, groamy conditions,
and he played that tight game really well, which you
need in test matches right, ultum Internationals, you know, July

(01:21:09):
and New zealand all that sort of stuff. You need
to be able to play in those conditions. And I
think Hoskins is a man for all seasons and that
and the one thing about it is, and I think
I've seen this on your show a lot, Poney, you'll
you'll know I'm a Hoskins Statuotu fan. Is that are
we letting out possibly the most talented rugby player in
the world just slip from our grasp and not find

(01:21:31):
a spacer in the in the team. I know that
all those Northern Hemisphere or even South African teams will
be absolutely celebrating that we can't find a place for
Hoskins tutu because he would be their worst nightmare to face.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
James, always good to chat mate, Thanks for taking our
call as always. Let's try again next Sunday, shall we?

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:21:51):
Indeed?

Speaker 7 (01:21:51):
And yeah the America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Oh yes, you dine out on.

Speaker 7 (01:21:56):
That, mate. It's you know, he's an all time great now,
Peter Burling up there with Dennis Connor and all the
you know, all the luminaries of that. So I still
will missed the old school of laughing up and all
that sort of stuff, and you know, spinnakers and wine
glasses and all that sort of thing. But I'm sure
they'll be enjoying the wine glasses over there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I'm sure you're right, Thank you, James. James mcconey around
this time every Sunday here on Weekend Sport seven Away
from two News Talks EBB.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic field weekends
for it with Jason Hine, News Talk zemb.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Four to two after the News at two, the last
hour of the show, including some analysis of Liam Lawson
ahead of his return to a full time seat in
Formula one, well full time for the rest of this
year anyway, and all things being equal next year too.
The US Grand Prix in Texas tomorrow morning. He will
start from last on the grid, but that's due to
a grid penalty which was incurred by the team even

(01:22:55):
before Liam Lawson got back in the car. So what
does this all mean and what will success look like
for Liam Lawson both tomorrow and for the remaining races
of this year. Bob mcmurragan a chapters about that. Maddy
Gordon's on the show Silver Fern's mid quarter ahead of
Constellation Cup Test number one in Wellington tonight against Australia
and New Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper Josh Oluway Jemmy is also

(01:23:17):
on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on
Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport
News Talks at be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Welcome back into Weekend Sports. Sorry I was distracted. I
was distracted by a message I just received from Andy
about the prize money up for grabs at the T
twenty Cricket World Cup. The winners prize poul so if

(01:24:00):
New Zealand win the T twenty World Cup tomorrow morning.
The winners prize, Paul is three point eight five million
New Zealand dollars, which will we split evenly between the
fifteen players three point eight five million, and eat on
your calculator quickly. For us, what is three point eight

(01:24:21):
five million divided by fifteen? Please jeez, okay, yep, yep,
calculator five those numbers again, well you could have just
you could you could have you could have got it
off the air. But yeah, three point eight five with
six zeros.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Behind it, a right three eight five one two yep, yep,
divided by divided by fifteen two one hundred and fifty
six thousand, six hundred and sixty six point sixty six
six six sixty six seven, rounding a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Quarter of a million dollars each. For those players. That's
life changing stuff. Two hundred and fifty grand each if
they win tomorrow morning. If they don't push all clear andy,
one point nine three million, one oh jeez, one nine.

Speaker 26 (01:25:09):
One nine to three, and then you're zero zero zero
divided by fifteen, it's one hundred and twenty eight point
sixty sixty six or one hundred and twenty eight six
sixty six point sixty six six.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
That still a lot of money, isn't it. Yeah, one
hundred and twenty eight thousand still good money. So they're
guaranteed that they are guaranteed that one hundred and twenty
eight grand each New Zealand dollars. Good on them. That's
terrific if your house deposits for some of those White
Ferns players. Right where were we? I was going to

(01:25:43):
tell tell you about what was happening this hour, Now
let's do that. Josh Oliver Yemmy is the new goalkeeper
for Wellington Phoenix the mens side. He's English Nigerian by
birth and is between the sticks, presumably for the season
open of this afternoon couple of hours AWA against Western United.
He's on the show Maddie Gordon of the Silver Ferns.
They played the Constellation Cup opener against Australia in Wellington

(01:26:05):
tonight and very shortly Bob McMurray on the on the
Formula one and Kiewi Liam Lawson starting at the back
of the grid. You've heard in our sports news about
that the equipment's penalty which is sent them to the
back of the grid. Will get that explained for you
and I'll be interested from Bob as to what Liam
Lawson has to do to make sure he's got that
seat next year. It almost feels like, as long as

(01:26:26):
he doesn't have a catastrophic falling off the cliff as
far as his driving is concerned, that he should get
the full time drive for all of twenty twenty five
or am I being overly optimistic there. We'll keep an
eye on live sport as well, including Ford Trophy cricket
and the Lahure Cup final in the Heartland Championship. This
has just kicked off in Tekweedi King Country against West

(01:26:49):
Coast for the Lahure Cup. We'll keep an eye on
that for you as well. You can call us on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two
is our text line if you'd like to get in
touch with us. Coming up ten past two though, and
as we always do it around about this time on
we can sport, we like to make sure that you
haven't listening thing. We like to bring you up to

(01:27:09):
date with things that may have escaped your attention. And
as we've said a few times this afternoon, there is
a heck of a lot on, so you can't possibly
be in touch with everything. There's a new Heartland rugby champion.
This is the Meads Cup from yesterday.

Speaker 27 (01:27:23):
Superb and there's an example and they win the penalty
two to finish it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
And that is what it means. Till the swamp foxes
here and.

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
Down or hum.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Quinn Colin seventeen points in the final says it's a
touch a fleeing for the second time. Tams Vunny means
chuck champions bay of plenty meantime into their first ever
NPC Rugby Final.

Speaker 10 (01:27:53):
Taps it, hecks it deads and buy it plenty a
hitting to the NPC Final.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Next weekend and they'll match up against Here we go.

Speaker 24 (01:28:04):
That's time they've covering that back in the stead, goes
Riley Higgins on the Wellington Lions.

Speaker 11 (01:28:09):
I've gone one.

Speaker 18 (01:28:09):
Step further than I did last year.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
They are under the bummings En Preca Final Wellington. They
have plenty next Saturday. The Breakers have shaken off their
loss earlier in the week to hold off the Wildcats.
Checks and childline throwing up with the left turn tops
gol Blakers get a pat Now they'll hun to faust
Wow rang Jar Sam Monica, I.

Speaker 28 (01:28:29):
Son the odds are insurmountable now for the Wildcats.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
And it's been a great evening for Bill Foley owned
football teams. Bournemouth up ending Arsenal by Betes Christy. The
setis kiddies are undone by a setee. I'm como, Sam Shipton.

Speaker 18 (01:28:57):
It's just a second of a victory of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Arsenal and closer to home, Auckland FC find themselves for
the meantime anyway at the top of the A League
lender mister brass Rogison dabraise the provider.

Speaker 28 (01:29:14):
Rogerson with the Finnish and didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
He loved that the hometown point He's doubled Audland's money.

Speaker 19 (01:29:23):
They lead it to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Elements analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.
Weekends for It with Jason Vye.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Talks eNB thirteen past to Bob McMurray on the Formula one.
Shortly a couple of texts through. Isn't there a larger
squad to divide that money between? Ellen says don't the
coaches and managers also share in the financial winnings. I'm
just reading from the official Keyweek Cricket media release. Here
the New Zealand squad will split their prize Paul evenly

(01:29:53):
between the fifteen players in the World Cup squad. There
you go, so that's what it says. No mention of coaches, managers,
anybody like that. The fifteen players in the New Zealand
squad will it evenly? The prize Paul, if that is
a winning prize Paul, around two hundred and fifty grand each.

(01:30:15):
It's New Zealand dollars if they are runners up tomorrow morning,
around one hundred and twenty eight thousand. Big money. Big
money on offer at these tournaments if you can progress
deep into them. Formerly one driver Liam Lawson remains upbeat
despite starting from the back of the grid and tomorrow
morning's US Grand Prix in Texas, the Racing Bulls driver
posted the third fastest time in the opening qualifying session,

(01:30:37):
but failed to record a lap in the second. He
was always though, condemned to start from the back of
the grid after his team incurred a sixty place grid
penalty for exceeding the season's engine allocation. Here's Liam Lawson
after his qualifying lap.

Speaker 28 (01:30:51):
Honestly from my site, happy to put the lap together,
to put the performance there and show what I guess
the speed that I Honestly, we felt from P one
yesterday the carfel goods and I knew that being the
first session, if the speed was already there in session one,
we probably had a bit more so.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Fine Formula one expert by McMurray as whether we had
a talkback call or explain the grid penalty to us
a couple of hours ago, Bob, but can you give
us your explanation as to the reason for the grid penalty?

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
Yeah, I painty. Well, yeah, the reason is that so
many bits and pieces have been changed to the back
of the car. Pretty much all the shiny bits that
make a noise and all the shiny bits that make
battery go have been changed. And this was due to
penalties incurred by when Daniel Ricardo was driving the car.
So they're getting rid of it all now, and basically

(01:31:39):
Liam Lawson will start afresh from the next Grand Prix
in Mexico, not this Grand Prix. This grum Prix is
going to start from the back of the grid, as
you've already said. So for me to go through the
whole list, I get myself confused. It is just about
everything you can think of that they need to change
to make the car ready for the rest of the season,

(01:32:00):
and he's going to encourage. But that's no big deal,
not at this particular race, because he by studying at
the back of the grid, he has had a chance
to just get his thumb in the seat, get used
to the thing, and drive well. And as you saw,
if those who didn't see, in the first part of
qualifying for this week, for tomorrow's race, he qualified third. Now, okay,

(01:32:23):
it's only in the first qualifying section. Not everybody will
have the engines turned up, not everybody will have new
tires on. He did, but nonetheless, his teammate did not
finish anywhere near third in that same session, So from
his point of view, it's a job done. Onto the
next one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
I was going to ask you how long it'll take
him to get used to the car again, But I
think the answer is not very long at all, Bob
By the sounds of that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
No, no, I mean, I've got to say I had
every confidence in Liam, having seen him come through the
junior ranks and knowing how he drives and all that
sort of thing, but I did not think he would
be third. But it is a little bit skewed because
in the first qualifying those people who are unshre sure
of getting through the qualifying, we'll put the new tires
on and turn the engines up on all that sort

(01:33:12):
of thing. Those people who are reasonably sure of getting through,
you know, the McLarens, Ferrari's Red Bull, that sort of thing.
They will not detune the engine, but they won't wind
it all the way up. And many of them started
on used tires. But nonetheless, in Formula one, what you're
always compared against is your teammate. And in that session,

(01:33:35):
Liam Lawson finished third, as you say, and he was
with a time let me see, of just zero point
two ninety three away from Max for Staffan, but Sunoda
finished half a second. Flower. That's the thing that Red
Bull will be looking at. That's the thing that Red
Bull generally and the RB team will be very pleased

(01:33:55):
about and pleased to see. Unfortunately, Fernando Alonso wasn't very
pleased with Liam Lawson. But that's a whole other story.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Well, it wasn't Fernando Alonso very placed with Liam Lawson.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
Oh well, he's come out all saying all sorts of
nasty little things about him, because Liam Lawson was actually
he was, he was racing, shall we say?

Speaker 14 (01:34:16):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
And Fernando Alonso was trying to get past Liam Lawson
in the qualify in the sprints race, and he's said
one statement, I've got it here. He says he's got
six races to prove himself. But honestly, I'm not sure
he's approaching it the right way. It's his career on
the line, not mine. This is mainly because Liam Lawson

(01:34:37):
would not let him past, and he was fighting his
corner and he was getting in the way of Fernando
Alonso fantastically. Well, absolutely perfect. That's what you're supposed to
do as a Grand Prix driver, isn't it? Stop the
guide behind the motivation?

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
And I would have thought so finished ahead of him, Yeah,
I would have thought that. Yeah, that finishing a hit
of a guy who's behind you from a different team,
or even from your own team, as you've pointed out.
Surely that's what motor racing is, Bob. Why why is
Alonso so annoyed? Did he think that that that Lee
Mawson should bow down to him and let him pass.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Well, it's coming over a little bit like that party.
But along it was always a bit salty when he's
when he hasn't got a car operating under him as
he would like and the Acid Martins very definitely not
doing that at the moment. And and perhaps the reason
is there what he said, He's got six races to
prove himself and prove himself he needs to do. He

(01:35:34):
needs to do that sort of thing. Helmet Marco and
Christian Horner, the bosses of RB Red Bull rather not
the RB team, they will have been bringing all over
their faces. They would have been thinking it was fantastic,
and so do I. If you're going to fight with
somebody on the track, fight them. And if you're going
to choose a double world champion who's the eldest driver

(01:35:54):
on the grid and probably still one of the fastest
drivers on the grid as well, then fight him. It
doesn't matter who you're fighting and how you're fighting. As
Liam said, for the stewards didn't think anything wrong of it,
nothing was reported, he wasn't told off. I think it
was wonderful. Frankly, yeah, now I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
I love it. So what will Liam have to do
to retain the seat for twenty twenty five, Well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
There's a good example of what he did. He's fighting
for his corner and he qualified very well. Now, yes
it is third position, officially third position. That could have
been translated if everybody's on the same strategy, probably could
have been translated into being in the top ten, which
would have been absolutely a superb finish. But third is

(01:36:44):
good enough. That's what he has to do that grab
the car, grab it by the scruff of the neck,
and race as best he can. And while you're at it,
beat your teammate. Beat Yuki Sinoda who is banging on
the door and now Honda are banging on the door
for him to say that he should be replacing Perez
in the main team next year. Well, if Liam keeps

(01:37:04):
on doing what he's doing now, think they'll have a
think about that and maybe have have a think about
putting Liam in there, which I think he can handle
quite easily. Going back to his five races that he
had last year. You might might remember he actually over
took Max Withstapham in Singapore. I think it was so yeah,
he's he's got the carmonies they say in the trade,

(01:37:27):
and he's driving very well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Simple Soda a good driver.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Well, he was down here in the toy at a
racing series at the same time as Liam Lawson, and
Liam beat him flat out. He was he was in
various He's had a check at history. Shall we say,
he gets very excited in the car, but he's calmed
down a little bit. I don't particularly think he is
the stap and teammate material. He would be a good

(01:37:55):
and is quite a good midfield runner if the car
is good with him. Now it's very difficult to judge
if he's good or not because he hasn't had with Ricardo,
he hasn't had a particularly fantastic teammates to go against.
He's beaten Ricardo quite regularly when he was there first
half of the season, so I'm not so sure. I've

(01:38:18):
got serious doubts about whether he would ever be a
fantastic great guy. But the car is not that good either,
so it's difficult to judge. So now he can judge.
He's racing Snoda is racing against Liam Lawson, and Liam
Lawson is equal opportunity.

Speaker 7 (01:38:33):
Shall we say.

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
He's a young guy coming up, as is Snoda, and
as long as he beat Sunoda, then he's going to
take the whole position for being elevated, as I say,
to the main team.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
And tomorrow morning, Bob, in some ways, does this put
the fact that he's at the back of the grid.
Does it put Lim in a bit of a no
loose situation, back of the grid through no fault of
his own? So I guess no real expectation, But he's
showned that. Actually he's used to being back in the
in the seat. So is he in a bit of
a no loose situation or is you know, is there
plenty to gain as well? For for Liam tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
Morning, Well, if he's starting twin and let's say he
finishes sixteenth, that's okay. It depends how he races. If
he starts twentieth and finished his twentieth, then okay, he's
not going to make any great waves and he's not
going to throw a stone in the pubble of Formula one,
so to speak, and make ripples. He is going to
be Okay, we've done that. That's the first race out

(01:39:24):
of the way. Now your test starts, Now your examination starts.
We could say, if by some chance he gets and
he's quite capable of doing this, if the car is
operating well, and he's proven today that it is operating
pretty well, if he can get up into the top ten.
I'll tell you what contracts will be will be showing

(01:39:45):
themselves in the various motor homes up and down the
pit lane.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Just to clarify the grip penalty one more time, so
it's just for this race. The entire penalty is wiped
at this Grand Prix.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Yes, it's the penalty was. It actually adds up to
about fifty places if you add up the penalties for
of the individuals bits that have been changed, like the
battery unit, the engine unit, the all sorts of things.
I mean, it's unbelievable the list. It would add up
to a fifty place grid penalty. Now, these stupid grid

(01:40:21):
penalties were trimmed down a couple of three years ago.
You can only start at the back of the grid,
simple as that. You don't start any further back than that.
And it doesn't matter what other people do, like other
people will have penalties, he will still start behind them.
What he probably will do, though, start in front of
Lewis Hamilton, who looks like he's going to start from

(01:40:41):
the pit lane. Maybe even George Russell as well, but
certainly Lewis Hamilton will start from the pit lane. So
Liam Lawson will start ahead of him and we'll see
how that goes.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Indeed, always love chatting motorsport with you, Bob. Thanks for
your insight and the expertise. Can't wait to see how
Liam goes tomorrow morning. End for the rest of twenty
twenty four as.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Well, you and me both. Thanks Tony, good on your.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
Bob, Thanks and Dave. Bob mc murray there. You always
learn so much when you listen to talk about motorsport,
don't you. He's just so so knowledgeable. Sit there and
listen to him talk motorsport for hours. Can't wait to
see Liam Lawson tomorrow morning, six thirty. I think it
starts the US Grand Prix in Austin, Texas, two twenty four.
Updating cricket for you. Otago three hundred and sixteen for

(01:41:23):
nine from their fifty overs batting first against Northern Districts
in Fugaday, so Northern only three seventeen to win that
Ford Trophy match. Auckland are two hundred and one for
four after forty six overs against CD in New Plymouth,
and Wellington all out one twenty nine in their innings
at the Basement Reserve against Canterbury it was all over

(01:41:44):
so quickly. There r innings that the Canterbury came out
to bat even before lunch and it's clearly not the
pitch because Canterbury are forty two without loss of six overs.
So maybe just some early season rust for the Wellington Firebirds.
Canterbury forty two without loss, they need another eighty eight
runs of forty four overs. I think they should be
okay there. We'll keep you updated. Two twenty five. International

(01:42:05):
net is back in the spotlight tonight and over the
next little while with the Constellation Cup Series. The Silver
Ferns against the Australian Diamonds Test one in Wellington tesB
Arena tonight. Maddi Gordon Silver Ferns midquarter joins us right
after this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason
Kyne and GJ. Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder
News talksb.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
News Talks ab Bang. On two twenty eight, the Silver
Ferns start their four test Constellation Cup series tonight in
Wellington before tests in Auckland, then across in Perth and Melbourne.
It's the first time the Silver Ferns have taken to
the court since losing the Tiny Jamison series to England
just seconds remained, and there it is.

Speaker 22 (01:42:53):
For the Silver Ferns, they do want a chess.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Yeah, but a two to one series loss in the
Tiny Jamison against England joined ahead of the Constellation Cup
opener by Silver Ferns midquarter. Maddy Gordon, maybe before we
look ahead to the Constellation Cup, how do you reflect
back on that narrow series loss to England in the
Tiny Jemison Trophy.

Speaker 24 (01:43:14):
Definitely was a tough one. We thought leading into the
series we felt good and we thought we all had
under control, but obviously we had two losses there which
we really looked hard at. But I think the exciting
thing is we weren't far off and it's just little tweaks.
So hopefully we've worked really hard in camp and this
lead up and hopefully we've fixed that going into this
Constellation Cup series.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
All right, So just just drill down into that a
little bit for us, the tweaks that you've had to make.
What are the main things you've been focusing on between
the Tiny Jamerson and now.

Speaker 24 (01:43:44):
Yeah, I think what obviously most people would have seen
with us through court attack, which we're definitely you know,
bringing the ball down, linking our defenders into our attackers
to bring that ball down strongly. That's definitely been one
thing we've looked at, and also just tiding us on
our CPA and CPD. Obviously we had good numbers that
we were just a tiny bit off, so if we
get those all under control.

Speaker 17 (01:44:03):
We should be good.

Speaker 24 (01:44:04):
And then obviously our turnover right is been a bit
too high for us, so we've definitely worked on all
that ball position been put under SEPs of pressure steps
to hold the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Can you just just clarify those acronyms for ust, Maddie,
what's so CPA CPD.

Speaker 24 (01:44:18):
Of course yes, CPA, so that's our center pass and
then CPD is our center past defense both ends. So
how we're stopping the IV is getting fall into their
attacking in and then obviously with us fixing up on
our getting our ball into our shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
In so that heavily involves you obviously as a as
a mid quarter. So how are you feeling heading into
this Constellation Cup series?

Speaker 24 (01:44:41):
I think's feeling really good. I think this lead up
has been really good. I think I personally made a
shift a step up and hopefully people can see that
leading us into these games.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
You beat Australia in both home tests last year, and
I think in both home tests the year before that
in the Constellation Cup series. So how much confidence do
you get from results like that knowing that that beating
Australia on home soil is something that you've done pretty
regularly recently.

Speaker 24 (01:45:06):
So definitely we take a lot of confidence. And I think,
especially because it's the two new dealing games first, if
we can get those two under our beout, I think
it'll give us some really good confidence to try and
get them in Australia as well.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Yeah, well on the other side of the coin. And
I guess on the other side of the Tasman winds
have been harder to come by, haven't they, So why
is it so difficult to beat them over there?

Speaker 16 (01:45:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:45:26):
I think it comes down to a lot of it
as their crowd and their arenas, Like I think they're huge,
The crowd gets behind them and I think sometimes I
guess it could be a bit intimidating, but I think
we're just got to shut that out, Yeah, believe in
ourselves and just go out there heard and just silence them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Early, it's been a bit of a disrupted year for you.
Maddie had a prolonged stint on the sidelines during the
A and Z Premiership with an ankle injury. I believe
are you all one hundred percent right now?

Speaker 25 (01:45:53):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:45:53):
Injury is all all one hundred percent. It was kind
of good that I had a little bit of time
between A and SAD and trial to get myself one
hundred percent right. I think like most people would have
had a break because they had had the full season,
but because I kind of had my little break in
season that I was able to just carry on and
get myself right. So yeah, leading up into these camping series,
I'm one hundred percent, which is good news.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
It was ankle, wasn't it? And did the recovery go
to plan?

Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Did it?

Speaker 20 (01:46:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Did you Were you out for what a length of
time you thought you were going to be out for?

Speaker 24 (01:46:24):
Yeah, so I did my ligaments and also quite a
bad bone bruising. But yeah, going into it, I was
supposed to it was twelve weeks out, but I said
it early and I got back in ten weeks, which
is awesome. And there, Yeah, it was a little bit
of struggle obviously with bone bruising. I lost quite a
bit of mobility in my ankle, so I was really
just building that back up, which took me a while.

(01:46:45):
There's a thing called need a wall which try to
get your like me touching the wall, and I was
in the negatives and I had to be at ten
so that was a bit of a struggle. But once
I got there, it was all smooth sailing from there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Good to hear. All right, So you've got Grace Wecker
for this series, but beyond that next year she's obviously
playing her domestic netball in Australia, so you won't have
her for the Silver Ferns next year. Are you starting
to plan for life without Grace Wickett at the.

Speaker 14 (01:47:12):
Moment, No.

Speaker 24 (01:47:12):
I think we're just kind of focusing on what we
can do this year and how we can beat these Aussies.
But obviously it's definitely going to be a huge loss
when she goes. But I think at this stage we're
just focusing on the present and we can worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
And are you hearing any whispers about netball's place at
the next Commonwealth Games? We know Glasgow is going to
be a reduced games in terms of the number of sports.
Have you heard any whispers or rumors about whether the
netball's going to be there or not.

Speaker 24 (01:47:39):
No, sorry, I actually have it. I think obviously Calm
Games didn't even like, we weren't even sure it was happening.
So it's great news that it is still happening. But
I haven't heard any whispers about the netball and that
part of it, all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Right, Well, keep our ear to the ground on that one.
Just finally, Maddie, Wellington crowd. You're from Wellington, obviously you
get good energy from the crowd during the domestic netball season.
You feel as though you'll get that tonight as well
when the Australians are on the court against New Zealand.

Speaker 24 (01:48:05):
Yeah, it's great as we love the Wellington crowds and
especially just TSB itself. It just brings such a good vibe.
Sou and I have even talked to a couple of
the other girls who aren't from here and they even
said they loved playing at TSB. So I think we're
really excited to play there. I think I'm the Wellington crowd,
bring your a game, they'd rest up their super hours,
so yeah, we're really excited to play in front of them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
I bet they're excited as well. Hey, Maddie, all the
best for tonight's first Constellation Cup Test and for the
rest of the series. Appreciate you taking the time for
a chat.

Speaker 24 (01:48:31):
Awesome, No, thank you very much, No, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
You, Maddie. Maddie Gordon there midquarter for the Silver Ferns.
So four test matches against Australia. First two are here
Wellington tonight, then Auckland, Perth and Melbourne for the Constellation
Cup Netball Trophy. Final appearance on court this year for
the Silver Ferns twenty six away from three. Jason, can
you please wish the New Zealand pickleball team well, I

(01:48:55):
certainly can. They are traveling, it says here to Peru
later today to represent New Zealand in the Pickleball World Cup.
No problem at all, Tracy, happy to do that. That's
a big, well growing sport, isn't it. It gets played
at high participation obviously, but at the elite level there's
we had the bloke on, didn't we from New Zealand

(01:49:16):
pickleball earlier this year. It's professional now, but the numbers
that are playing it down at Akutangi in Wellington, the
Indoor Sports Center here, just dozens and dozens and dozens
of people playing it all the time. So yeah, good
luck to the New Zealand team as they head off

(01:49:37):
to their World Cup. We're going to take a break
when we come back at football and Josh Holloway, em
me first chance. I've had a chatter to the new
Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper, spoke to him during the week and
I play that for you shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
The Tough Questions off the turf Weekend Sport with Jason
Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder,
News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
News Talks. There be just on twenty one away from three.
It's just going to try and track down a Cup
final progress score four year ago. King Country against West
Coast at Rugby Park and t Kowiti. Currently ten all
after half an hour. Ten all between King Country and
West But and there it looks like West Coast has
just scored a dry good budding in Andy.

Speaker 29 (01:50:21):
Yes, just in the corner, so they'll make it fifteen
ten to the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
What do you predict for the conversion?

Speaker 29 (01:50:27):
It's on the side. It's a miss, it's gonna be
a message. It's a right right scored right in the corner. Mate,
But I don't know who the West Coast kicker is,
And I apologize for doubting you, but I'm doubting you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
I've gonna say, are you casting as persons on their
kicker without knowing a thing about them?

Speaker 17 (01:50:43):
Yes?

Speaker 29 (01:50:44):
Correct, It's like I couldn't do that, not but I
probably would struggle with one in front as well. But anyway,
that's that's my update for you. The kick hasn't come yet.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I'm not sure it's a fair comparison necessarily between yourself
and the West Coast kicker, but well, we'll keep an
eye on it and let you know the outcome. The
Wellington Phoenix open their A League season in just over
an hour four o'clock. They take on Western United at
Sky Stadium. They would have, I'm sure, been watching Auckland
FC start their life yesterday with a two nil win

(01:51:15):
over Brisbane Raw. For the Phoenix, off the back of
what was their best ever season last time around, they'll
be looking to well at least match that and maybe
even go one better. They've got a few new players.
Speaking of Auckland f C Alex Paulson, who was in
goal for the Phoenix last season is now an Auckland
FC player, So the Phoenix have got a new goalkeeper.
He is English Nigerian. His name is josh olaway Yemme

(01:51:39):
And earlier this week I sat down and had a
chet Tom and asked him, first of all, how the
move to Wellington had come about.

Speaker 30 (01:51:45):
So to be fair, I've played with a few A
League players who have told me about the league and
they've told me nothing but great things about it, and
they're very proud about it as well, coming from that league.
And first of all, it was Cassini Yangi at Portsmouth
who told me about it.

Speaker 18 (01:52:04):
Then I ended up going to Finland. Had two A
League teammates.

Speaker 30 (01:52:08):
There is in Dylan Fox who was here before as well,
the Fox he will yeah, and he was telling me
a lot of good things about it, and funny enough,
you end up from there to hear and yeah, Scout
came to me and asked me about the opportunity, and
because of what I've heard, I was like, do you
know what, I want to give this a shot, you know,

(01:52:29):
and yeah, that's how I ended up here.

Speaker 31 (01:52:32):
And you want to hit conversations I'm sure with people
at the club. Chief and maybe Reubin and others was
you know when you hit those conversations, was did that
reinforce you know, the feeling that this would be the
right move for you?

Speaker 18 (01:52:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:52:44):
A lot of it is how people are as well,
and I feel like they give an honest vibe, honest,
honest people.

Speaker 18 (01:52:52):
With in football. I love the way that the.

Speaker 30 (01:52:55):
Clips that they sent me about the way the team
was playing that intrigued me as well. That made me
really excited to take it on the facilities, research into
the facilities, and also the way the team did last
season as well. I felt like it was just a
very good challenge to come and continue that and even

(01:53:15):
build upon that for next season.

Speaker 18 (01:53:17):
That's what really brought me in.

Speaker 30 (01:53:20):
But as people as well, Chiefy and Reuben like, they
sold me on the way they are and it's still
the same right now.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
You know, I was going to last state.

Speaker 31 (01:53:29):
I mean, you're always in a job and of view, we're
trying to treat you like a first day, doesn't it
you know, like it come over, it's going to be
like this is it what you expected? Has it been
an easy transition for you to make?

Speaker 30 (01:53:39):
It is what I expected, But hasn't been an easy transition.
I've had two illnesses that have kept me out a
couple of weeks, but it's expected when you come from
the other side of the world, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:53:50):
So it's good.

Speaker 30 (01:53:51):
But I'm getting up to base, working really hard with
the coaches, and yeah, I'm very positive about how the
season is going to go.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
The frustrating it over here.

Speaker 31 (01:53:59):
You're physically fine, but then you're what you just get
a bad cold that sort of thing.

Speaker 30 (01:54:03):
Yeah, just cold, just a little viruses really, but it's
you can't stop it. If you stop it now, maybe
it comes later. So it's actually better now in pre
season than during the season.

Speaker 31 (01:54:17):
Have you found working with goalkeeping coach Ruben Parker?

Speaker 30 (01:54:20):
The way he sees football is extraordinary for me just
obviously I can't go into detail about the actual tactical stuff,
but he's just the way he sees it. Very demanding
as well, but very reasonable. He's got a very big
eye for detail as well, very big on those things,
you know, and helps me keep the intensity up as well.

Speaker 18 (01:54:45):
But yeah, not very good, and I feel like you
could take me to the next level.

Speaker 31 (01:54:49):
A big part of modern day goalkeeping has been out
of play with your face, you know, that hasn't always
been the case, you know, a couple of decades ago
didn't have to worry about it. Now it's a big
part of a goalkeeper's toolbox.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Is there something you work hard on?

Speaker 30 (01:55:02):
Yeah, work hard on it every training session as even
as with hands as well.

Speaker 18 (01:55:07):
We try and we always include both in trainings.

Speaker 30 (01:55:11):
But the game has changed now, so goalkeepers along all
the top five leagues, most teams are expectant of their
keeper to be able to be comfortable with their.

Speaker 18 (01:55:23):
Feet and be flexible tactically, you know.

Speaker 30 (01:55:27):
So yeah, it's something that we work on tirelessly and
try and perfect it.

Speaker 31 (01:55:33):
And whether I wanted to give the technics why last
year the Phoenix played out a lot. They use the
keeper in the back for a lot to play out.
Are we likely to see that from you guys this year?

Speaker 30 (01:55:41):
Yeah, definitely likely to see that this year as well.
And even some more weapons as well that we plan
to launch as well. Obviously I can't go into detail
about these things, but I'm very excited, you know, very excited.

Speaker 31 (01:55:56):
What do you ap pride yourself on as a goalkeeper?
Crosses shot, stopping, controlling the penalty area. What are your
real strengths as a keeper.

Speaker 18 (01:56:04):
I don't want to blow up when I say.

Speaker 31 (01:56:06):
Guys never like talking about themselves, But what would someone
say about you?

Speaker 30 (01:56:10):
I think they would say in big moments, for one
on one of the things that's something I really have on.
I'm versatile, I can play out from the back. I've
been working tirelessly on elements of my game to get
certain things in the locker for myself. Shot stopping as well,
quick reactions and these things is something that I would

(01:56:31):
pride myself on. And athleticism as well. The leap that
I possess. I feel with set pieces and highballs that
have floated up.

Speaker 18 (01:56:41):
I can really excel in that department, you know.

Speaker 30 (01:56:44):
But I think it's more about being an all rounded
keeper and fitting in and what you can do for
your team in the way that they play.

Speaker 4 (01:56:53):
You know, how vocal are you as a goalkeeper?

Speaker 18 (01:56:56):
Very very, probably annoying, But you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
Talk to any defense and that's what they want, right, Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:57:04):
That's what they want. Yeah, it's it's definitely what they want.

Speaker 27 (01:57:08):
Well.

Speaker 30 (01:57:08):
I realized though, on certain big occasions, I'm shouting and
they can't hear you because the crowd is so loud,
so it's kind of I think a lot of it
is having a relationship and how well we're drilled as
well as a team and making sure that in certain
moments you're just in unison with your defenders.

Speaker 18 (01:57:29):
That's the most important.

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Yeah, this seems like a really important relationship.

Speaker 31 (01:57:33):
You know, you look at midfield peers and striking peers,
but the relationship between yourself and your back four or
whatever it might be, back for your defensive line. How
do you solidify those relationships and make sure that they're cohesive,
especially with it, you know, coming to a new club.

Speaker 30 (01:57:46):
A lot of it is with games, Like there's certain
partnerships that you would know intuitively what people are going
to do within game scenarios, and but a lot of
it can be built in training and through conversation, you know,
and that's what can kind of bolster the connection. When
someone goes over here, you know what he's going to do,
what he likes, and what he doesn't like.

Speaker 18 (01:58:08):
It's all part of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
You know, you were at Tottenham for a while, big club.
What was it like?

Speaker 30 (01:58:14):
It was very, very demanding, very it was very educational.
I learned a lot of things that now in my
career when I look at it, I can always refer
back even though at the time I've registered it, but I.

Speaker 18 (01:58:30):
Can't really relate it to anything.

Speaker 30 (01:58:33):
A lot of you you could learn a lot from
the players, the coaches, a lot of pedigree there as well.

Speaker 27 (01:58:40):
You know.

Speaker 30 (01:58:42):
A lot of very good staffs and people with crazy experience,
like for example, working with Patch Jennens. You know, having
him by your side for training, you learn a lot
and he tells you a lot about his day and things,
and like you could.

Speaker 18 (01:58:59):
Just take that.

Speaker 30 (01:58:59):
You don't feel alone, you feel like you're not You
don't feel like you're learning every experience on the cuff.

Speaker 18 (01:59:05):
You feel like you could related back to something.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
And you head time with the Nigerian national team as well.

Speaker 31 (01:59:11):
You played age group for England, but the Nigerian national
team I think two or three years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
Do you have strong international ambitions?

Speaker 18 (01:59:18):
Yeah? I really. My upbringing, my family.

Speaker 30 (01:59:21):
Although I'm a diaspora in Nigerian is in. I've lived
in England all my life, but the culture in the
area and in my family is very strongly Nigerian. So
for me, when I went to play against went to
as a team to go and play against Mexico, it

(01:59:44):
was something like words can't describe like it makes it.
It brings back the kidding you about why you're in football,
you know, And I do want to go back and
not be on the bench but play. You know, that's
still a chapter that is unturned and I'm going to
keep working towards to try and get there and.

Speaker 31 (02:00:02):
Just to circle back to Wellington to finish out what
does a successful season look like for you personally and
for this team?

Speaker 30 (02:00:09):
For me personally, I think the personal stuff will follow
if I just keep doing focusing on every game at
a time and enjoying the club, the atmosphere and what
I need to do my job. As a team, I
really want silverware in some sort, whether it's in the

(02:00:29):
league or postseason. You know, I really want silverware in
that aspect. In terms of number, I try not to
get caught up in the numbers, but there is a
general rule of fun where I'd like to hit. And
as an individually, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
There is Josh all Away in me. He is the
new number one for Wellington Phoenix, the team actually for
this afternoon's game. He has been released and he is starting,
so he'll debut for Wellington Phoenix this afternoon in their
A League season opener against Western United at four o'clock
this afternoon. Now, did the kick go over? Did the
West Coast kicker make a liar of you or not?

Speaker 20 (02:01:09):
No?

Speaker 29 (02:01:09):
They did not missed it by quite some way, actually,
so I'm sorry for doubting them though.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Oh, looks like they've got one over. Have they got
one over?

Speaker 29 (02:01:17):
I don't know. I can't say that. The TV's sort
of not helping me out with this one. But it
looks like I'll get your score update, Piney, unless you
get one before me. Fifteen to Kent Country at half time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
I did not was a race for well done.

Speaker 29 (02:01:34):
It was going to be some tantalizingly poor radio if
it was just me sitting here and silent waiting for
the score to pop up. So I figured I'll make
a challenge out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
It's probably better than some of the stuff we come
up with. But yeah, good to know, all right. It's
a tight one in the Whare Cup Final, King Country seventeen,
West Coast fifteen at halftime in Tikowiti. Also can just
tell you on text someone's alluded me to the fact
that the under seventeen New Zealand women's side drew one
all with the hosts Dominican Republic at the Under seventeen
Women's World Cup this morning. They need to win their

(02:02:02):
final game to qualify for the next stage, that is
against Ecuador on Wednesday. It is nine and a half
away from three. News talks me.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
The Scoon from the track, Field and the Court on
your Home Lord, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
The News talksb stix away from three. That is about
us for Weekend Sport today and for the weekend. Tim
Beverage will take over after three o'clock with a Sunday
edition of the Weekend Collective. So much sport to look
forward to over the next little while. The Phoenix kicking
off in about an hour or so, and the A
League opener against Western United. We've got the Silver Ferns
tonight against Australia three o'clock tomorrow morning, the White Ferns

(02:02:42):
up against South Africa in the T twenty Cricket World
Cup Final. Liam Lawson in the US Grand Prix. I've
probably forgotten something. I may have forgotten something, but I'm
sure if it's in your wheelhouse, you'll make sure that
you get in front of a television or alongside a
radio to take it all in. We're back on Sports
Talk tomorrow night between seven and eight to cover off

(02:03:03):
everything that happens between now and then. Huge thanks to
Anny McDonell for producing the show as always, Thank you
for listening in and taking part, either today, yesterday, or whenever.
And if you just listened in then that is absolutely
fine as well. We have no qualms about you taking
an opportunity to spend some time with us. We know
how busy your lives are, so we appreciate you tuning

(02:03:24):
in at all. Exit song today is from a man
who was born on this day, October the twentieth, nineteen fifty,
passed away via cardiac arrest in twenty seventeen, but not
before putting together an absolute litany of hits as a
solo artist and with his vand the Heartbreakers in the
Traveling Wilburies as well Tom Petty Learning to Fly taking

(02:03:48):
us out seeing Tomorrow Night, A good.

Speaker 27 (02:03:53):
Well th old cloud, The one goes must come down,

(02:04:21):
raining fled laying got wings.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
Coming down. It's a hard thing. A rain flies.

Speaker 19 (02:04:42):
Lounge clouds.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
What goes up.

Speaker 18 (02:04:50):
You must come down?

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Rain fly.

Speaker 28 (02:05:02):
A brain fries

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
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