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News Talks B the Black Ferns beaten by Canada in
their Rugby World Cup semifinal in Bristol this morning.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Puts it on the toe this time Perry Tessier underneath it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
One had to wait and leave it dead, Lucker thick
and go here car again, Canada pressing love you the
first points Pelty strikes. Oh is that play from Canada?
And it's just said z who gets the first try
of the semifinals.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That was the first of Canada's five tries, four of
them in the first half. They ran out thirty four
and nineteen winners over New Zealand and Bristol. This morning.
Black Fern's head coach is Alan Bunting, who joins us now, Allen,
WA's your overall assessment, first of all, of how the
semi final played out.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
You're obviously congratulations to Kevin and the Canadian woman and Sophie.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
They are really accurate today.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
And I wish him are the best of the final.
But yeah, obviously you really gut it. You got it
through our ladies and obviously our coaching and minister stuff.
There is a lot of week gone on and I
had a lot of family over here, and I know
there's going to be a pretty disappointed country back there.
So he obviously cut it first, But here kent accurate
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today and if he was going to play and made
too many years and then gave her too many penalties
and got too far on the back foot.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
But just you can't sort of fold our ladies.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
They keep trying and the effort and intent out there
to go all the way.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
And you can try and call back, and they certainly
didn't give them.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Could you have done anything differently or better?
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Oh, we don't.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Obviously don't try and make them any years, and we
try and play our game. But obviously we got caught
probably playing quite a bit in our own half, and
you didn't the sort of exit out that how we'd
like to have made it. Obviously made it many years,
and obviously they were pretty acurate once they got the
board inn And now I have.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well the errors a result of the of the scoreboard
pressure and the on field pressure that they put on you,
or or were they just errors?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Oh jeez, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Obviously trying the abasement they and trying to play our game once,
you know, once we got done on the half and
got our game game, we were pretty hard to stop,
but we there's stuff we didn't get down there enough,
and yeah, you are, ladies, intent and an effort to
try and get going, and obviously if there is, I
don't know what.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, did Canada's fast paced game, particularly at the start,
catch you on the hop a little bit?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
You will say, you going there? Pretty hard to stop,
aren't they? Once we got going, we were pretty.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Hard to stop.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
But they obviously had the ball for a bit longer
than us in our own half and that was the
chance with the end the points.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Did you suffer at all from a lack of really
competitive games before the semi final?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
No, all right, we've that was help playing from the
start and using on rugby is doing a real good
job to give us as many games as we can,
and we felt like we had enough prepression going.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
No.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
I mean, yeah, obvious it wasn't our day today.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean at the tournaments, you know, you weren't really tested,
were you? Apart from maybe a half against South Africa?
I know that's not your fault, but what was that?
Was that a factor at all?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Or probably South Africa you know, obviously tested us sort
of peace wise, but you you what, you're right there
we've probably get tested across the board Canada or pretty
solid across the board, and I'm here.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
But I'd like you can't hold you our ladies effort.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Today the playoff for third and fourth now a game
no one really wants to end up and having made
it to the semis, how will you reinvigorate the group
ahead of that game?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
This scroop's pretty tightly connected, these lord of love in
this group, and it would be pretty tough if we
didn't have another game, to be honest, you know, we
you know it's the beauty of sport.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It can break your heart.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Sometimes, but we get another you know, go at the end,
make our family and our country proud and play another game.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Have you given any thought as to how you approach
that selection wise? And there are players here who may
well be playing their last game for the Black Ferns?
Will you take that into account? Will you give other
players who haven't had the opportunity and opportunity how will
you approach it?
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Over the next day also, will definitely have a good
look at that. We you know, we've just been focused
on this week that we stayed in our week, so
you would have a look at the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Tough like Ellen, thanks for joining us this afternoon. Yep, noros,
thanks Jason, No, thank you Ellen. Ellen Bunting their head
coach of the Black Ferns, understandably downcast there searching for
some answers. Time for your thoughts on the game, if
you'd like to put them across oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty lines, open to talk some rugby. Canada
utterly exceptional, just brilliant, especially in that first half. They
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came out so fast, two tries in the first twelve minutes,
seventeen nill ahead after twenty five minutes. From there, it
was always going to be a long way back. New
Zealand did get back into the game shortly after Canada's
third tribe with one of their own, but the converted
try that Canada scored just before half time to make
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it twenty four to seven was the killer. Has Welikal made.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
The hit Beltier goes again, She's so dangerous.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Half performer the Goody charging so please supper from Canada
and Sophie the Goody.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Here's twenty four to seven going in ten points down.
Your feel would have been manageable going in seventeen points down,
much more challenging. Obviously, we outscored them in the second half,
but by that stage the damage was done. We gave
way too many penalties, made too many handling errors, but
that is a result of pressure in some ways, Canadian pressure,
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scoreboard pressure. It always felt like we were chasing the game. Honestly,
I got up this morning to watch that game. I
got up around out in a quarter to six I guests,
and when the game started it was just like Canada
were just into it straight away. The pace that they
were playing with was frightening, man frightening. And it always
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as if I felt as though we were chasing the game.
Just a little bit. Brilliant game to watch, though, can
I say, before we go to the lines, brilliant game
to watch. Both teams keeping ball in hand, very few kicks.
I can't remember a single box kick, and I'm not
upset about it. Hardly any stoppages. If you hadn't watched
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rugby before and you tuned into that to say, man,
this is a good game, this is great. There was
almost a throwback to the old days, wasn't it. Keeping
ball in hand and very very little kicking. The only kicking.
I can remember there was a bit of kicking for
the line when you're back in your own twenty two,
but in a little Chipcacks throw to try and regather.
I just thought the endeavor of both teams was really impressive.
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And just before we go to the lines, here's a
stat that I saw this morning. For the first time
in twenty seven years, New Zealand doesn't hold a senior
Rugby World Cup since the Black Ferns won it for
the first time in nineteen ninety eight. Either they or
the All Blacks have held the Rugby World Cup for
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the last twenty seven years. That has ended today. Oh,
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Speaker 9 (13:21):
But Liam laws isn't it great that how well he's doing?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Fantastic, very pleased with Liam Lawson.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Allison, Yes, indeed, yes, Now this at the end of
the day, it would beat by a better team, not
the end of the world.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Now what happens now do we pay off a third
now or are we fourth or wasn't too sure what happens?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thank yeah, yet the other semi finalists. Tonight France play England,
so the winner of that goes to the final and
we will play the loser next Sunday morning. I think
it's just after midnight next Sunday morning.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
Yep, yep, so we either get third or fourth of
what you're sort of saying there, yeap.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Depends, that's right there, that's well, it's good. Yep, yeah,
I think well, I think Hellison, thank you for your call.
I think they went there though, to win it, certainly
to make the final. I think we all knew how
good England were going to be, and that's proven to
be the case, and they should, all things being equal,
beat France tonight. But I reckon we all become Canadian
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fans now, don't we? Aren't we all Canadian fans now
hoping that they beat England if it is England in
the final next Sunday morning. I was just so impressed
by them. I hadn't watched them play. I watched the
highlights of their quarterfinal went over Australia, and I thought, man,
they look good. But then you look at Australian you think, actually,
you know, they haven't been great for a while on
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the woman's game, but man, they were something else today.
Wendy says, what an amazing game of skillful rugby. How
good to watch a game with no box kex. That
was enlightening.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I felt the same way, Wendy. I felt the same way.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Hello Chris, afternoon, Dussie.
Speaker 12 (14:55):
On this sad, sad day, I like many people, got
up and watched the rugby the black ferns and this
is what this is My view. My view was we're
missing a spark. You know when you when you start
a car and there's no spark plug. And that spark
was sitting on the sideline. I call her Georgia Miller. Now,
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she's got an incredible i Q speed, she's always there,
she's she's got ruffling through the ball. She's making those passes,
doing those runs. That's what they missed. They miss They
missed the spark plug. She was sitting on the side
with the ham string injury. Now I know a little
bit about rugby and coaching, et cetera, and when when
when some coaches are looking for an excuse to drop
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someone and if you just show any little tiny little
sign arm I've.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Got a little bit.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
We've all got niggles, especially after tournaments and playing. So
they should have sprayed a bit of French spray on
her leg, given her an egection and shucked her up
there because that was the difference. Because I believe she
will play in the third and fourth game and she
will play a big part. So that's my My bit
is that they left the Jeff Wilson of Woman's Rugby
on the sideline, that little milky bar kid.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I hear him, I hear you. But I don't think
they would. They would have done everything in their power
to get Georgia Miller out there. I'm sure. I don't
think there was any look they would have, whether it
was magic water, whether it was you know that the
best massage money can buy in terms of getting that
hamstring ready. What was odd, and I'm sure you picked
up on this as well, is that they refused to
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confirm that it was a hamstring injury at the In
the pregame press conference, they were asked, you know, hey,
what's up with Georgia Miller. What's the injury that's kept
her out? And they said something along the lines of
or Alan Bunting did we prefer to keep that private?
And I don't know the reason for that unless it's
something a lot deeper than a hamstring injury, which it
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may well be. But back to your point, I think
they would have done everything in their power to get
Georgia Miller out there. And you're right, she may well
have been the spark.
Speaker 12 (16:58):
Yeah, because that was the difference those last points that
that's where she comes into place. She says pretty much everywhere,
and you know what, I sort of think maybe Ducy,
maybe they were They might have thought, I will just
risk it for the final, or something's going on there
and that's the big question for me out of this
World Cup. And that's what that's what was myssing. And
this has come from somebody who's watched rugby evidence. Michael
(17:21):
Fox know srowing up, Michael Fox.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Michael Jones at the moment, Michael Jones, the left.
Speaker 12 (17:28):
Thing of the World Cup in nineteen eighty seven, by
the Rhodes Scholar was in the Captain.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
David kept Chruss.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Look, I've been watching for about that long as well.
And look, I thanks for your call mate, by the way,
good good thoughts, well made. Yeah, the Georgia Miller one
is interesting to me. Surely they would have got her
out there if they could. This it was just really weird.
It was a weird press conference. Well not not the
whole press conference, but that but was just a bit
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weird for me. Why wouldn't you just say, yes, she's
got a hamstring injury. I thought perhaps that they might
have been and this isn't really the key we weigh,
but I thought they might have been using a little
bit of misdirection perhaps and that she was going to play,
but they were just you know, saying, oh no, she's
she's not playing. And then they were on this morning
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when they ran out, Georgia Miller would have been there.
That wasn't the case. But if if you got a
hamstring injury, just say you got a hamstring injury. I
don't know, And part of me thinks as well, if
there is something deeper than this, if there is something
you know, more to it than this, then still say
she's got a hamstring injury and then we just move on.
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Because hamstrings can come right in a week. So if
she played next week, no one would have said, oh, hey,
I thought you said she had a hammy. Hamstrings can
come right it depending on how bad they are, how
good the treatment is. So yeah, I just thought it
was it was unnecessary and just a bit strange and
out of character for the Black Ferns, who have been
the most authentic sports team who have had for ages.
(19:02):
They always tell the truth, They're always very open and honest,
they're great to interview. Just thought it was weird. Twelve
to twenty six news talks head be free line there
if you want to make a point on this morning's game,
either the Black Ferns or actually the game itself. Very
enjoyable for me, And if you've watched this tournament from
the start, you know are Canada are chance against England.
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I look forward to watching England against France tonight. All
predictions are that they'll win that easily and then it'll
be a sold out Twicken them next Sunday morning. But Canada,
I don't know if they played their final. Getting up
for this morning was huge and it was clear how
up for it they were. That was as good a
performance against New Zealand that I've seen for a long time.
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Can they get up again next week? They'll believe they can,
of course they will. They may well take a high
degree of confidence from this. Oh eight one hundred and
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Speaker 14 (21:38):
I'm all right mate, myself a very good thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
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Speaker 14 (21:42):
Yeah, good to, good to chat mate. I just was
gonna put down the tab and put twenty bucks on
Canada to win it.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, I mean if they play late at the end
of this morning, they'll be in it, won't they.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
Yeah, definitely. Let's hope they didn't play. If they they
didn't play your final this morning, but they just we
had no answer anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I just and from sorry sorry small David. Just,
I mean from the after twenty minutes or whenever they
scored their third try seventeen nil. I know we've got
to try straight after that. But man, they were just
out of the blocks, man.
Speaker 14 (22:16):
Yeah, just, I mean we I would have expected because
we've been slow starters right through the tournament, right, I
would have expected that we would have and your previous
caller with the old spark plug analogy, it just appeared
we didn't come out of the changing roun as ready
to go. And yeah, unfortunately we ended up on the
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score wasn't too bad at the end, but I would
still call it a hiding at that level. Yeah, just
I'm not too sure, not too sure what the problem was.
Georgian Miller maybe, but yeah, we just didn't We didn't
seem like we wanted to be there, mate, to be fair,
and they've done well and let's hope they get through
and get you know, get onto the podium. Yeah, it
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just was it was it disappointing. I suppose it was
a little bit disappointment.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, it was, No, it was it was. But you
got to say the right team one smally, right, I mean,
the better team won without question a.
Speaker 14 (23:09):
No doubt, no doubt all and then that show probably
in the first ten to fifteen minutes that they were
they were up for it, and they came out. They
played positive footy, they kept the ball in hand, something
our men's team could learn from him. Yeah and yeah,
there was how many blocks kicks to just see in
that match?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, I didn't see any. I wondered what game I
was watching. I did not see a single box kick.
I might have turned away. But what we had, either
we had thirty or forty last week, not a single
one fully loved it, loved it.
Speaker 14 (23:39):
Tell you what. I was a forward in my day,
and if the first five were the half Beck kept
doing that sort of stuff, you would pull yourself out
of more and dragged them in and you've give them
a clip around the year and say, look, I've just
slaved the way to win us the ball, and all
you want to do is give it back to them.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Those were the days I would just I'd love to see.
I'd love to see Yeah, like I don't know two
ball vity or or already pull for like Christy into
the into the right class week you listen to mate,
don't do that anymore.
Speaker 14 (24:11):
You're starting to really feed me off because every time
I w slave my guts out, you kick it back
to those buggers on the other side. Yeah, so let's
let's hope there's a bit of a turnaround, because if
the bladders like carp happens to head across the ditch,
then I think we might be looking for a coach.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No pre yeah, no PreCure, no pressure. Hey, Smally, please
call back mate. I love chatting to you. Please let's
chat again, maybe even next weekend ahead of the game
or after the game. Good to chat to my friend.
Speaker 15 (24:41):
You get a pint. Yeah, it's one thing I do
love is that we're talking about footy on on the
afternoon sports show with Woman's Footy. But yeah, really really
disappointed how it all sort of went down. Really we
(25:01):
got absolutely spoiled, and I don't know where we go
with women's rugby here and probably with the men that
we think we can just run our way out of
a game of footy like you know, swing it wide
and you know, break a team down like Canada, like England.
(25:22):
Even if we got through, I don't think we would
have competed against well, assuming England get through.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Great point, Luke on a great point, mate, because I
think there's so many have come from the sevens game
that that is what you do in a game of sevens,
right you you throw it wide, you find the spaces
the where you go and look, we do have electric
outside backs. But teams have worked it out. Teams Canada
worked it out like we had Porsche, Woodman, wi Cliffe
and Braxton sirens and McGee had no space to work
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with at all on the flanks this morning.
Speaker 15 (25:53):
No, And we can't rely on her just you know
the speech used to Porsche. But we can't just swing
it to her and go run over top of them
because defenses are better now. And you know, the Canada
Canadian men seam probably look at the women's and go, oh,
how do we play like that? How do we read
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the program in the men's game there? But you know, like, yeah,
we wouldn't have had answers next week regardless, I don't think.
And you know we've probably given the French again if
there the ones we play the blueprint to shut us
down again. But like your last border there, small, he said,
you know, the Canadians probably could teach our men how
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to play, to hold on to the ball and you know,
build phases and then let you out wide through the
business at the end, you know, like a yeah, I
know it's the supported. I've got three little girls. I
sat there with one of them this morning watching it
on the phone and beard and you know, she's only
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two and a half. I'm not going to push her
to rugby. If she wants to play, she will. And
I've coached a lot of women's rugby, whether it be
here in Ireland and the States. And yeah, I don't know.
I watched the Fara Parmer Cup and it's like, do
we have a team in the Fara Parmer Cup that
actually plays a solid brand of rugby that's not just
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ahead and hope you know like that actually, yeah, gets
down plays that ten man rugby for a little bit
and actually earns the right to throw it out wide
and school tries or just beat a team up up
the middle and who cares how you win it, I guess,
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but it just is not working for us just to
constantly go out there and expect you know, the back
three to you know, finish. I'll just pass it out
into it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, great perspective you've brought, Luke, Thanks mate. Yeah, I
hope you're yeah. I mean yeah, Look, please call back
any time, mate. I've enjoyed hearing your perspective. Hope your
daughters enjoy the rest of the weekend despite the result,
and you do too, mate, I one hundred and eighty
ten outy a few more less elder before one former
Black Fern's captain with her take. Trevor, Hi, mate, how
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are you damn bunny? I'm going to callers?
Speaker 16 (28:19):
Yeah cool, the previous who callers basically what I wanted
to say. But for me, this box kick that's just
killing the game, right I used to I used to
play fullback and the only time that that kick works
for you is when they're kicking it just outside you're
twenty two and you get all the pressure on you.
You can't, you know, that's where that's where the pressure
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you put on the team, not outside of you, when
you're kicking from your twenty two or randomly and there's
a fifty to fifty who's going to get it? And
exactly like previous caller said that, the fours have just
won you hard Bowl and you're just giving it back.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
To the opposition.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Oh, you won't get an argument from me, Trevor. You
wont you will know, you won't get an argument from me.
I just it was just stood out to me this morning.
We've talked so much about the box kick over the
last three or four weeks with regards to the All
Blacks and and how much of a part of their
strategy it is. To not see any box kicking at
all was a was a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 16 (29:15):
Oh fantastic, It was fantastic. And I'll tell you what,
Doll Blacks could learn something from that, seriously, Like, you
know they strong and can get in and get the
fallback right, and it just kicking you just keep kicking away.
Was like, ah, you know, I know we've I know
we've got Will Jordan is probably the best at getting
the ball back. But that's why why why risk it
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all the time when you under pressure? I mean, it's
just drives me nuts.
Speaker 17 (29:42):
And I will say I will say though, I felt
for the girls today because they gave, you know, all
that energy.
Speaker 16 (29:52):
They just they didn't give up for one minute, not
for one minute. But I think they're out played today.
Definitely out played today, right, Trev.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That that last but yours you're so right mate, in
terms of the effort they did not give up, and
that space level for anyone who plays for New Zealand.
For me anyway, you do not give up, regardless of
the score, and they didn't. They were still going at
the end, giving it everything, and you could tell how
devastated they were. Good to chat to you, mate, Thanks indeed, Mark.
Speaker 14 (30:16):
Hi, how are we going, buddy?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm good?
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Mate? Yep, yep.
Speaker 18 (30:21):
Bar got up and watch the game, mate, And I
absolutely thoroughly enjoyed it. And I had my neighbor over
from next door and we sat there and even from
that first ten to twelve minutes, we both looked at each.
Speaker 14 (30:34):
Other and said we're gone.
Speaker 18 (30:35):
And you could tell straight away the Canadians were just
they were brilliant and so far, so far today you
have made the best comment yet. And you sort of
said the similar sort of thing, and all these people
ringing up and oh, I'm so disappointed and blah blah. Well,
the fact of the matter is you can't be on
top of the world all the time. And I think
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it's the best thing that's happened to woman trouby, any
rugby for a long time, to put a team out
that's been dominated it's good for it's.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Good for the game.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Mark, I totally agree. We don't want because really this
World Cup hasn't really started until now. You know, even
the quarter finals that were that were for a time competitive.
You know, the Black Ferns sort of had to work
for a bit in the first half against South Africa,
but always one going away. You know, Canada far too
good for Australia. We can't just have four good teams,
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you know, we can't just have a very small number
of competitive teams if we want the game to grow.
So look, we should yeah, well yeah, while we're disappointed
about the Black Ferns losing to Canada, we should we
should really admire what Canada have done. No men's program
to speak of in that country. The women's fifteen program
has grown largely out of their sevens program, but has
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been given resource, but not that much resource. Because I'm
sure you've heard this as well, that team had to
crowdfund to get to the tournament. They had to raise
money themselves. Let's hope that their national union recognizes what
they have done. Good to check Mark, Hi, Dave, Hello.
Speaker 19 (32:11):
Barn Next Saturday's final is going to be brilliant.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
You have.
Speaker 19 (32:17):
You've got the England Juggernauts against the Canadians and it
will be an absolute cracker.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I agree, I agree, I can't wait. It's interesting day.
If you've already got England in the final, I think
you're probably right, though I know a lot.
Speaker 14 (32:36):
I tell them.
Speaker 19 (32:39):
All the blokes here, England calendar right from the beginning
they'd get to the final and the way here calendar played.
And rarely speaking, if you think New Zealand, the warning
signs to me were there against South Africa, I mean
(33:01):
that first half of that much. The Keywis were absolutely
thrushed with it. But of course they grew up in
second out. But once they're mingling forward, get going forward,
it's going to be look great to watch.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, Dave, I know you'll enjoy it. Mate, got a
couple more calls to get to, but good on you
and I look, I think we can all accept that
England are firm favorites tonight against France. It would take
a monumental reversal of fortune for England not to get through.
So England Canada, I think you're right. We'll have the
two best teams in the final without a doubt. Can
I Mark.
Speaker 17 (33:41):
Hey Pany. You know, I'm quite interested in you talk
to do with the Japan South Africa. I think someone
should actually start a podcast with it, games playing on
Replete so he could sort of it as a rugby
fan player for ourselves and get some sleep at night,
you know, after these big losses. I'm not an expert
on woman's rugby, but you know, and the fact that Canada,
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you sit, had the crowd fun to get to the
World Cup is almost a bit sad, but you know,
bloody good on them, to be honest, I think England
so dominant, I'd be very surprised if Canada beat them,
to be honest that you know, the Affords are just yeah,
and I think they're probably the only true real professional
team in rugby. I think with New Zealand we suffer
(34:25):
from the fact that our players almost have to use
an awful word, but aul themselves around the world to
make a living at rugby, you know, and it's not
like the men's game where we're so focused on the
World Cup and that's what everything is almost geared towards.
They've got to hustle all over the place and you know,
getting into tend together at the end and like Wayne
(34:47):
Swift did an amazing job at the last World Cup.
But I mean you've also got to remember that England
played with fourteen players during that game. But I think
the organization, Yeah, it's just not the same focus on
the World Cup as probably the men's team has.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, it's a good point and this will be the
catalyst I'm sure for some examination of that. Thanks for
your call. Make got to move at sixteen away from one.
Les Elder, former Black fernd's captain, with her take after
this don't.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
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Speaker 2 (35:24):
MB News Dogs. Les Elder twenty two tests for New Zealand,
captain the side and won the World Cup in twenty seventeen.
Now a rugby commentator and analyst with Sky Sport. At
least can we start with Canada? How good were they?
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Well, you have to start with Canada, right, because they
were just too good. They outplayed us. They I actually
think we were out coached as well. Their game plan was,
you know, everything that you'd expect from the Black Friends.
They canceled it out and then they executed it on
the side of the board.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Can you talk a bit more about that in terms
of the game plan Canada came with on both sides
of the ball. What did you see from them that
was particularly effective.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
They flooded the edges, which is where we gain a
lot of our track and momentum. Right, We've got outstanding
outside backs and we create momentum on the edge of
the fields. They shut that down, and when they shut
that down, it means we need to adapt, and I
don't think we adapted fast enough. We did adapt at
the start of the second half by playing through the
middle of the field with our pick and goes and
(36:23):
our boards going to work, but it was probably an
adaptation that came a little bit too late.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And with ball in hand for Canada. Do you think
the Black Ferns were caught out in any way by
how high tempo the Canadian game plan was.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
Yeah, I think we were actually and I think we
were very mindful of their outside backs because they've got
some speedsters. Mikaela break off camera told us that Asia
Hogan Rochester is as fast as her, so that means
they're all faster than the Black ferns because Mikayla is
one of the fastest in New Zealand, so I think
maybe because we were aware of that speed and flare
out wide, it changed how we defended internally and they
(37:01):
took the opportunities there. And that's why justin the halfback
that Pelipier had such a great game because she's seen
our defense fanning and then she took up opportunities and
gaps through the middle.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
There were also a number of handling errors from the
black Ferns that's uncharacteristic. Really Was that a result of
the on field and scoreboard pressure Canada built?
Speaker 10 (37:21):
Quite possibly we have seen a little bit so riddled
through the black Ferns throughout the i'd say the past year.
They did seem to capitalize on that in some of
these later games, but let's be frank, we weren't tested
other than the half against South Africa. We haven't been
tested by quality side this Rugby World Cup. So yeah,
(37:42):
that pressure, not only the pressure that Canada applied on
us defensively done things to our attack, but also chasing
such a score line, right, we started too slow. They
put seventeen points on us and we were chasing the
clock for a long time.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Would Georgia Miller have made a significant difference?
Speaker 10 (38:00):
Absolutely, I do think so. It's what she creates on
the edge of the field. And like I said, they
shut down our edge. But imagine if we had Georgia
out there, it could have played games with their defense.
At least she would have beaten the first defender. So yeah,
I think losing her was a massive loss.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You talked there as well about not being tested up
until now in the tournament. The same goes for Canada though,
les you know, they sort of rolled through Paul play
put forty odd on Australia. How were they able to
keep their standards nice and high despite the fact they
weren't really tested either.
Speaker 10 (38:33):
Yeah, that's a good point you make that, and I
think again it just comes down to the quality of
the team, the quality of the coaching, the game plan
that they executed. We heard Porsha Woodman Wickliffe post game say,
we knew the game plan they were going to bring.
We knew what they were going to do. Unlike Canada,
though they didn't shut them, We didn't shut them down
knowing that game plan. So again, I'm not going to
(38:56):
take away from Canada. They outplayed us. They executed a
great game plan.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
So the Black Ferns will now play off the third
and fourth a game nobody, I'm sure once you reach
the semis once to be involved. And how challenging will
it be to get up for another game?
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Yeah, absolutely, it's going to be tough. But like I
said on air, for hours to soak it all in,
you've got to feel it. You've got to hurt it,
you know, feel the hurt. But you've got to go
again because that's that's your job. That's what you've got
to do. You don't pick and choose which moment she's
turned up for. So they'll one flick the switch and
they'll go again because they have to.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
The end of a World Cup cycle always sees the
changing of the guard in some respects, and we know
that we're likely not going to see Porsia, Woodman Wickcliffe
again beyond this World Cup obviously and maybe some others too.
Do you expect a reinvigoration of the playing group now, Well.
Speaker 10 (39:44):
I think looking at the positives of it, they have
the coaching group have done quite a good job at
bringing some depth into the side, right, So there are
players that didn't even make this World Cup still at
home who are young in their early twenties. Those girls
will start featuring in the coming years. So I think, yes,
we're going to see so the exodus of some players,
but we're going to see I think more young Braxton
(40:07):
Thornton McGee's turn up on our tellies as well.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Could Canada win the World Cup?
Speaker 10 (40:12):
Absolutely, and I hope they do. The reason why I
hope they do obviously the long rivalry with England just
sort of still sits there as an old player, but
Canada have the semi professional On top of that, they
don't have the legacy of the infrastructure of a men's game.
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New Zealand has a strong men's program, France has a
strong men's program, England have a strong men's program. Canada's
men's team and you know, we don't know much about
them leant to be honest, so they have created what
they have created. This women's team have created this of
their own back and to me is a proud female
rugby player and supporter of the women's game. It shows
(40:56):
how women can do it on their terms.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Layers have really enjoyed your analysis across the tournament on
Sky and here this afternoon. Thanks for taking our call,
no problems, thanks for having me, no thanks for job.
There's Elder, their former Black firm's captain. Seven to one
coming up three to one on Weekend Sport from Joe
on text, Joe here caught a Canadian. Go Canada. Good
on you, Joe. Yeah, I think we'll all be looking
for Canadian heritage to cheer them on. In next Sunday
(41:20):
Mornings final Tonight, the second semi is between England and France.
After one o'clock. Kyle Jamieson's on the show back in
the Black Aps, looking forward to catching up with Kyle
and Hayden Padden back in New Zealand for the Ashley
Forest Rally Sprints.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on
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Speaker 2 (41:49):
News Talks EB. This is Weekend Sport one O seven.
I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald produces the show where heads
all three, a couple of things to mop up, a
couple of really good texts. At the back end of
last hour, Hi, Jason, says Brett, I sincerely hope you
all Blacks coaches watched the Canadian women's game plan very
very reminiscence of the All Black style from the nineteen
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eighty seven World Cup. Super fast rock speed two point
three seconds, says Brett, giving the opposition no chance to
organize on defense. Thanks Brett, and Bo says afternoon piney. Well, mate,
I asked my mate yesterday to put a multi bed
on for me. He thought I was mad, says Bo.
When my bet starts with a Canadian win, now just
(42:31):
two to go. The Wallabies to win the next two
against the All Blacks. Now before you laugh, says Bo.
If they win at the Fortress, then they play a
sold out venue. In Australia, the word of the day
is believe Bo. I hope, I hope you're wrong. I
mean I hope for your sake and only your sake,
that you're right, because you'll be collecting if you've got
(42:51):
a malty on Canada, the Wallabies and the Wallabies Texas
back mate, what did you get? What odds did you get?
Speaker 8 (43:01):
Goodness?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
May I can't imagine the show we loose the next
two weekends. By the way, have to tell you next
weekend ahead of the Bledisloe Cup, Test, which is a
five o'clock kickoff at Eden Park. For the first time ever,
the All Blacks are bringing an epic sky fan zone
(43:22):
to the Kennids Outer Oval at Eden Park. That's the
that's Eden Park number two where they used to play cricket.
Don't they play there anymore? You know, just the outside field.
There's going to be a sky fan zone there, food trucks, bars,
interactive fun, homegrown, headline acts, DJ Clinton, Roberts, What a Man,
Ala Monterey and Kings bringing the energy. The fan zone
(43:45):
opens at one forty five next Saturday, ahead of a
family friendly All Blacks kickoff at five past five. Ticket
Holders can enjoy it pre and post match. It's exclusive
to ticket holders, so you've got to have a ticket
to the game to go. But the fan zone is
open from one forty five. Now, if you don't have
a ticket, we might even be able to help you
(44:08):
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not just to the fan zone, but to the game,
a double pass to next Saturdays led Uslow Cup Test
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So if you can get to the game. Here's what
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Text the word bled uslow. Now I mentioned this last hour,
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(45:12):
wrongly spelt bled uslows did we get? Yeah?
Speaker 13 (45:14):
Currently, finally we're sitting on eighty seven incorrectly spelt bletterslows,
including some including some absolute doozies like bleeds well and
and vesical was was might be might be my favorite one?
Vesical vesical LeAnn, Oh, that might just be someone saying
(45:36):
their name. So a lot of bledzo's as well.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Either. All right, you gotta spell it right, okay, So
here's how it's spelled. Okay, type of it. So I'm
saying it b l E d I s l o E.
That's it. Bled uslow. See already, since I've been talking,
I've got three four five, I've got five incorrect ones already.
Just you know, type it in.
Speaker 13 (45:58):
I founded bespoon piney Okay, glitter slow. I think someone
must have done done voice voice recognition and that didn't
pack up the accent. But that's if you can misspell
a better than glitter slow, you might you might almost
get a consolation prize.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
At this rate.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
We should actually do that one day. We should we
should do a competition like this and the most creative
misspelling of the word gets a prize.
Speaker 13 (46:24):
Well, I mean, it'd be pretty hard to be more
more creatively misspelled than glitter slow.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
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a couple of weeks ago when we played South Africa
(46:49):
at Eton Park. We did the show from the Kingslander
on New North Road. It was so good there. I
said to our bosses can we go back there for
the Bledisloe Cup and they said yeah, well if they'll
have us, and I've said, yeah, you can come back.
So we're going to go back there to do twelve
to three, the normal weekend sports show from the Kingsland,
and then at three o'clock we're going to sit round
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(47:12):
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next Saturday. Right, let's move It's thirteen past one. The
black Caps pace bowling stocks have been bolstered for the
upcoming Chapel had Lee T twenty series against Australia at
bay Oval in the first week of October. Jamison is
then outside the line of Offstar.
Speaker 20 (47:50):
Has he been taken at third slip?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That must be Tim Salvey.
Speaker 15 (47:53):
Terrific strike from Jamison.
Speaker 21 (47:55):
So he's got in the stuff as Jamison appeal for
LBW and he's given.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
He's got there at Carley and goes Jamison. Two part court.
Speaker 13 (48:04):
That's second slip outside off Jamison Jamison and he edged out.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
It's caught by Ross Taylor. He has the wickets of
he Shad Shama.
Speaker 20 (48:14):
Jamison approaches for his special Livery Angler listen and an
appeal for l b W W Gevin second consecutive wicket
for Carl Jamison.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Kyle Jamison's back, as is Ben Sears, joining Matt Henry,
Jacob Duffy and Zach Folks as the fast bowling options.
Ben Sears is back having recovered from a side strain,
and Kyle Jamison is now a dad, missing the recent
series in Zimbabweit to welcome the birth of he and
his partner's first child, Kyle Jamison, is with us. Let's
start there. Actually, how's parentshood going.
Speaker 11 (48:47):
He's been good. Has certainly been a different well, yeah,
it gives a bit of a change of pace from what
I've been used to. But now I've been loving it.
It's been lovely to be home and yeah, and to
support my partner and just be in speaking for the
first little bit of his life.
Speaker 8 (49:00):
So yeah, that's been good.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Fun top staff. Congratulations to you both. You've never played
Australia in Test or one day cricket. This will be
the first time you've played them in T twenty cricket
since twenty twenty one, so how much you're looking forward
to playing our closest neighbors again.
Speaker 8 (49:15):
Yeah, look, it will be good as off to.
Speaker 11 (49:16):
Like you said, I haven't paid them in tests already
eyes yet and you know, like growing up, it's always
you know, the thing that I guess most key week
crickets sort of watch and has.
Speaker 8 (49:25):
Has the most eyeballs on.
Speaker 11 (49:27):
So I guess to be a part of to be
part of another New Zealand Aussie series and to have
the Chapel Hadley now on the line as well, the
Ta twenties as as Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
To be called to be a part of and the
names I read about yourself, Ben Sears joining Matt Henry,
Jacob Duffy, Zach Folks. It's a pretty potent looking past
bowling quintete, isn't it. How exciting is the prospect of
bowling in tandem with those guys.
Speaker 11 (49:49):
Yeah, yeah, we're a little bit of a taste of it,
I guess in parts over the last sort of twelve months.
But yeah, like you said, there's been a a pretty
pretty exciting sort of group of bowls in the moment.
Obviously there's a few couple of guys sitting at the
moment as well. So yeah, we've got a good, good
crop of fast balls. I think we all sort of
have l sort of own unique strengths. So you'd be
(50:10):
good to get in camping and to link up with
ye think up with those boys again for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So this will be your first cricket since mid year.
You played in the Pakistan Super League and then the IPL.
It was a bit disrupted though, wasn't it paused because
of the unrest between Pakistan and India? Can you tell
us what that time was like, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 11 (50:29):
A little bit, I guess, just sort of not really
sure what's going on, and it was so I had
to just sort of roll with the punches a little bit.
But look, I love my time both in Pakistan and
in there, and it was nice to just get I guess,
a consistent runner cricket off the back of my last
couple of years. So to be back in those environments
and I love you love being back in the IPL
(50:50):
and you set the back end of that tournament with
some of those high pressure games and just fortunate that, Yeah,
I guess the way things unfolded, I was able to
go over there and just have a good runner cricket
in some of those high pressure moments.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, can you just tell us how that unfolded? Because
you were playing Pakistan Super League, you came home, went
back but to the IPL with the Punjab Kings. How
did that all play out?
Speaker 8 (51:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (51:10):
I was sort of got home from Pakistan, was obviously
a little bit unsure around you know, if things were
going to restart, and if they were, then I guess
when they were going to and I hadn't been playing
a huge amount of Pakistan and they kind of just
said look, look, if you want to stay at home
and not come back, then that's okay by us.
Speaker 8 (51:27):
And then so that kind of unfolding.
Speaker 11 (51:30):
About twelve hours later, the chance to go to India
popped up, and I was still still sort of ready
for some cricket and especially getting back to the IPL
and being a get to the back end of that tournament. Yeah,
it was too good, too good an opportunity to pass up.
So yeah, a little bit of a funny one sort
of both tournaments, but yeah, glad it kind of all
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worked out.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
And did you take Lockie Ferguson's place at Punjab?
Speaker 8 (51:54):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, It's funny how this game works sometimes, isn't it?
You know? And so you go back over there, played
the last four games, including the IPL Grand Final again
for all challenges being what was that like?
Speaker 11 (52:08):
It was actually awesome, Like I loved it, Like I
obviously had a very different experience in twenty twenty one
when I was last last at the IPL and during
COVID and a little bit of a I guess, yeah,
a slightly different situation. So to go to go over there,
I think in a far different place than I was
sort of four years ago, and just be involved in
those last four games are all sort of high pressure games,
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finals games, and I just loved it. I think off
the back of probably where I was twelve months ago
and I'm not really sure whether I was going to
be playing cricket again, to be.
Speaker 8 (52:39):
Back in that arena and back in an IPL final.
Speaker 11 (52:42):
And just found to be really present and kind of
just soak that up. I just absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Just tell us a bit more about that than Carle.
The injuries you've had. Was there a point in the
not too distant past where you thought you might not
play again?
Speaker 11 (52:55):
Well, yeah, that was a really realistic kind of I
guess place that I was in when I sort of
started last year. There wasn't really huge amount of answers
within cricket, and I was sort of staring down the
barrel of just doing the same thing and expecting some
different results. So I guess I was very fortunate that
I came across some people.
Speaker 8 (53:16):
Externally that had a fair amount of.
Speaker 11 (53:18):
Answers and just went about I guess, rebuilding, rebuilding my
body from scratch, and I guess once I sort of
linked in with him, I was pretty optimistic that I
was gonna have a different outcome, and yeah, it was
sort of going to be in a better place once
they got through that.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Is it your Is it your lower back? What has
caused you the most problems?
Speaker 11 (53:39):
Yeah, yeah, just in my love back sort of the
same sort of spot at AL four and yeah, just
a couple of couple of stresses in there, and just
I guess the nature of being tall and trying to
bowl fast and trying to do all that sort of
stuff put the pressure on there. But at the same
time it was just, yeah, my body wasn't stacked up
anywhere near.
Speaker 8 (53:57):
Where it needed to be. And you know, when you're
sort of faced with I guess the pressure the.
Speaker 11 (54:02):
Fast by it didn't didn't quite hack up, but you
certainly far a bit of place now and went back
and rebuilt everything and fix the things that I hadn't
done previously, and yeah, make sure we got it right
this time.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
So you just so there were times when when the
advice you were getting was, hey, this isn't working. We're
doing the same things, nothing's changing. So what you just
basically refuse to accept that and just sought a different
type of advice. And lucky you did, because here we are.
Speaker 11 (54:29):
Yeah, I mean, I always had a bit of a
gut feeling that there was there was more out there.
And I don't know why I did, but I just
felt like there was just something I was missing and
we kind of, you know, through the previous rehabs, it
was rest and then but just build up and do
the same thing. There was never any real focus on
trying to fix anything or find any answers. And this
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time around to kind of, you know, when there wasn't
really too much on the table to change, I sort
of felt like it was a good opportunity to try
and just seek seek some different advice. And once I did,
there was you know, a whole heap of arts and
solutions on the table that just made a whole lot
of sense to me.
Speaker 8 (55:07):
So some embarked on that and kind.
Speaker 11 (55:10):
Of, week by week each each time I sort of
I went through that process, I sort of, I guess,
grew in belief that there actually was a fair amount
of arts out there, and as long as I sort
of put the work in them and did all the
right things.
Speaker 8 (55:22):
That there was a fairly good chance I'll be back
in a far bit of place. So yeah, certainly glad
I found that at the point I did.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, have you had to make changes to your bowling action, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (55:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 11 (55:34):
I mean it was kind of I think things that
probably changed just naturally through some of the stuff I
had to do. I guess in terms of changing the
sort of foundation of my body a little bit, there's been.
Speaker 8 (55:45):
Yeah, probably some changes.
Speaker 11 (55:46):
If you if you go back and have a little
bit look at the footage, but not drastically. I think
it's just how I used my body and I guess
to the maximum effect and not trying to I guess,
find ways to compensate or putting extratress in my body
that I don't.
Speaker 8 (55:59):
Need to eat.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
How did you deal with the most frustrating times?
Speaker 8 (56:06):
That's a great question.
Speaker 11 (56:07):
It certainly had to sort of grip my teeth at times,
and yeah, it wasn't It wasn't easy by any means,
but it was just sort of focusing on the on
the endpoint, I want to get that plan and I
didn't want to.
Speaker 8 (56:21):
Be I guess done with cricket. I didn't want to
be it's the first.
Speaker 11 (56:24):
Person to sort of have the surgery and it not works.
Speaker 8 (56:28):
So yeah, there was certainly some.
Speaker 11 (56:31):
Some emotions as that are tied into the motivational piece,
but it wasn't wasn't easy by any means.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Well, it's great to have you back. And what are
you now? Thirty nearly thirty one, so you must feel
as though you've still got a few years left.
Speaker 11 (56:44):
Yeah for sure, I mean it feels like thirty now,
but I've sort of also had two years of cricket
where haven't I guess had had any years on the body.
Speaker 8 (56:53):
So now I still feel like I got a fair fair.
Speaker 11 (56:55):
Amount of hit me and got a really good team
and really good system in place. Now that I feel
like I will support my I guess body moving forward,
so lots less than the tank for sure.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
That's great now. And I was going to ask you
about Test cricket as well. I mean your Test cricket
records just brilliant. Eighty wickets and those nineteen Tests at
nineteen five five wicket bags at eleven wicket haul against Pakistan,
fifty wickets in your ninth Test. But you haven't played
Test cricket for a while, in fact, no red ball
cricket that I can see since February twenty twenty four.
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So do you still have strong red ball ambitions?
Speaker 8 (57:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (57:29):
For sure, I mean like a little bit of it
has been due to the schedule. Like I only started
playing around the super smass times. There wasn't much red
ball cricket when I've been back playing since the start
of the year.
Speaker 8 (57:39):
But yeah, it's certainly on the table.
Speaker 11 (57:41):
It's like I'm more of a chance than I would
have been if I hadn't followed the path that I have.
So look, it's on the table. It's just making sure
we did it in a smart way and not just
rush rush back because we want to win games right now.
So yeah, on the table for sure, and that's something
that I'm definitely working towards and just when it is
worth to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
So might we see you possibly in December against the
West Indies.
Speaker 11 (58:06):
Possibly, Yeah, possibly. We're just seeing sort of week to
week at the moment, and then that's the I guess.
The plan is to is to work back to red
ball cricket, and that's I guess. I guess, yeah, the
path at the moment, But where that spits out, we'll
just have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Have you been able to get in the nets and
bat as well? And we could your bat when you
were rehabbing or not really.
Speaker 11 (58:24):
Yeah, Yeah, I've done lots of it, so I sort
of you know, obviously through the rehab part you're kind
of hard to take. You take your medicine and take
a bit of rest, and but yeah, to able to
pick up the bat and put a fair amount of
work into that. So yeah, that sort of keep me
saying for a little bit of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Good stuff. Well, it stuck to have you back. Looking
forward to these Chap the Handley games just finally, I mean,
they come thick and fast and there's a three games
in four days. That's going to be an interesting challenge
for you as well, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (58:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (58:50):
Yeah, Like thankfully we're all on one spot, so we
just sort of park up at the Mount for a week,
so it'll be nice. But yeah, they do come thick
and fast in the first week of October, so hopeing
whether plays ball we ever.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
Yeah, have cracking series.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing it again. Great to
have you back, Kyle. Thanks for chatting to us today. Mate,
all the best for the series and for the rest
of the summer as well.
Speaker 8 (59:08):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
No, I appreciate your time, Kyle. Thanks indeed, Coyle Jamison there,
great to have him back. Let's just keep our fingers
crossed for for no more injuries for Kyle. It's been
such a wretched time for him and listening to him
talk there, man, it must have been. Must have been
a dark place he got to when you know, you
think that he thought that he might not play again.
You know, for a guy who just exploded onto the
Test scene, big part of our World Test Championship winning
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twenty twenty one, and to have so much trouble with
injuries must have been entirely frustrating for him. So it's
hope he's out the back of that. Keep our fingers crossed,
Stephen on Texas. Willow Rourke Jason seems to be missing
from that lineup. When would he be available again? To
add even more depth? Good questions, Steve and I can
answer it too, because Willow Rourke has yet to be
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out of action for at least three months after scans
revealed a stress fracture in his lower back. So goodness mean,
let's just hope that Willow Rourke doesn't go through the
same sort of thing that Kyle Jamison has. He's only
twenty four. Willow Rourke He sustained the injury while bowling
in the first Test Agains Zimbabwe and returned home to
undergo further assessment. A Rob Walter, the coach, says he'll
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undergo a three month strength and conditioning block before being
reassessed to ascertain a return to bowling and a return
to play. So there you go. We won't see will
I rock the side of Christmas, so that rules them
out of those Test matches against the West Indies in December,
but also all the white ball stuff to come. This
chapel hadley white ball games against England and the West Indies,
so won't see will I rock in any of that.
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Let's so we get past Christmas, the strength and conditioning
program goes well and he is back into it. In
twenty twenty six. Maddy Lee Wishy, our top Shop put
at silver medallist at Paris last year, has qualified automatically
for the final at the World Champs in Tokyo. You
had to throw nineteen point two to zero or better
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or be in the top twelve to make the final.
With her first throw, Medi Wish she has thrown at
nineteen point twenty seven one and done. She is into
the final. Terrific outcome for Maddie Wishy. She will contear
the women's shot put final at the World Track and
Field Champs. Connor Bell, our top men's discus thrower, is
in qualifying from about ten minutes from now. He's got
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His PB is three meters better than that sixty nine
to five one he's thrown as a peb. So let's
hope Connor Bell can emulate Matty Wishy and qualified directly
for that final. One twenty seven. When we come back,
we're going to relive one of the greatest upsets in
Rugby World Cup history, ten years ago to the day
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It became known as the Brighton Miracle. September nineteen twenty
fifteen September twenty here in New Zealand, Japan beating South
Africa thirty four thirty two and Brighter scoring the winning
try in the eightieth minute. Kose Ono was Japanese first
five that day, one of his thirty four test matches.
He's now head coach of Sun Tory Sun Goliath and
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he joins us, Now, Kosa, can you believe it's been
ten years since that day?
Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
No, I can't.
Speaker 24 (01:04:25):
I was actually surprised when you mentioned it or got
the call to take the call about it.
Speaker 25 (01:04:30):
He has gone like pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
What stands out most when you think back to that day.
Speaker 24 (01:04:37):
Yeah, probably thought it was a miracle really like we
tried pretty hard for about five months pre that game
with Eddie and a lot of camps in that But yeah,
if I had a spare ten dollars, I probably wouldn't
have put it on Ja Panele in that game myself.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Did you feel a degree of confidence going in though,
as you say, you'd prepared well, you had a good
coach and I want to talk about Eddie in a moment,
and some good players. Did you feel a degree of confidence.
Speaker 24 (01:05:04):
Yeah, Look, you never known you get there because you
have your Pacific Nations Cup and you have your pre
World Cup matches and things. But you never know until
you're sort of in the environment and see the spring
walk side to get named and then and then.
Speaker 25 (01:05:18):
Yes what see what.
Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
Soe?
Speaker 25 (01:05:22):
Who you're up against?
Speaker 24 (01:05:23):
So I don't know at the time, probably not, But
as the game went on, definitely you sort of saw
our confidence grow and probably there's their game sort of
made to be I don't know that.
Speaker 25 (01:05:37):
I think they started thinking about their game.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Really, it's got a South African side too, It's not
like they put out a big team against you, some
big names and there Brian Habana played that day, Scott Berger,
Victim Mattfield, many others. How did you avoid being daunted
by their lineup?
Speaker 25 (01:05:54):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 24 (01:05:55):
Well, we I played with Free Prayer and Scolpburger at
Suntory of the previous year, so we already had a
bit of an inkling of what we were up against.
And there are a lot of South Africans playing in
the Japanese League at the time, so.
Speaker 25 (01:06:07):
We knew a little bit about them.
Speaker 24 (01:06:09):
But when they turned into when they wear the green juries,
it's a little bit different. So I suppose we just
knew what our strengths were and didn't go too far
away from that. That was playing with pretty a lot
of speed and moving the ball, which seemed to work.
Speaker 25 (01:06:23):
So yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, no, sorry, So at what point during the game
did you think, actually, we're not going to get run
over the top of here? We were a chance.
Speaker 26 (01:06:34):
Oh It's always hard because even in the all black
sell Us of a Africa game the other day, like,
you just never know when one side is going to crack,
and usually the spring Wats can bring a lot of
power in the second half and when you would hang
on for a while, whether that be ten minutes.
Speaker 24 (01:06:51):
Or sixteen minutes, we just didn't know until we were
up in the game. But you know, ten minutes into
the game, we felt pretty confident, and I think our
confidence grew when we Leachi scored that try off the mall.
I think it might have been about twenty twenty five
minutes into the game. And then I think at the
point in the second half, halfway through the second half,
rather than I think that scored two more tries. Rather
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than go for the posts they are sorry, go to
the corner for another more, they opted for three points,
which is trying to build a scoreboard, rather than the
way that they'd been scoring their try. So you knew
that they were sort of almost protecting the lead as
opposed to just going for going in seven. So, yeah,
that gave us more confidence than probably what gave them
at that point in the game.
Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I'm just checking the scorecard here and it says that
you were replaced with seven minutes to go. Does that
sound right? Did you watch the last few minutes from
the sideline?
Speaker 12 (01:07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 25 (01:07:42):
Me and for me standing side beside on the.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Sideline, how was that.
Speaker 24 (01:07:47):
Yeah, Oh, we were just a spectator by then, Like
we were just riding, riding the emotions with the crowd.
Speaker 25 (01:07:55):
Probably.
Speaker 24 (01:07:55):
I just remember the crowd just being really green at
the start of the game and the warm up and things.
But as the game we're on, like I don't know,
it just started to turn red and it was almost
like the Springbok fans were sharing a good game on
but probably hoping that they didn't lose in the end. Yeah,
we were just all a part of it. So, yeah,
the seven minutes was a bit rollercoaster and such, but yeah,
the guy's out there. Yeah, it was pretty crazy finishing
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the game.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
And dat it was. Well they were South Arigara head
thirty two twenty nine. You know the hood has gone. Yeah,
you're still playing and then can't hiss Keith goes over
in the corner. What's the emotion like when that happens?
Speaker 24 (01:08:34):
Yeah, like a miracle happened. Like it's one of those
moments in life that I've had. Probably I couldn't say
how many, but a lot of people come up to
me where they knew where they were, who they were with,
and what they were doing at the time that it
happened because they were so shocked. It's one of those
a couple of events in life that people would just
remember vividly and yeah, like i've been I think how
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might've been half a dozen years ago we were down
at a sharing concert done Dunedin and a student, a
guy grabbed Karn because I was with Card at the time,
said oh, Grabdnan and the bar and said, your can't heskith.
You put me through university because I had X amount
of money on.
Speaker 25 (01:09:12):
You to score or try or something amazing.
Speaker 24 (01:09:15):
He didn't have the winning ticket, but yeah, it was
just a little stories like that that sort of pop
up every now and then, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (01:09:21):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Well you mentioned for me Aki Tanaka of course, who
was playing for the Highlanders of that time, so we
saw a lot of them over here. How influential was
he in your team at that time?
Speaker 24 (01:09:32):
Yeah, him and probably a lot of others, probably about
six others had played Super Rugby the previous year, and
obviously Forma was probably the shining light. And amongst all
those guys that had played the MPC and then represented
to Highlanders and playing alongside Aaron Smith was pretty cool
and inspiring for the rest of us to see. So yeah,
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I had a big influence in the group we've joined
post Super Rugby that that campaign, and he bought a
couple of years of Super Rugby knowledge and then a
lot of confidence that someone like his size could compete
it at that level as well, and then bring that
experience to the team, which is good.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Eddie Jones was your coach? What was he like in
that role?
Speaker 25 (01:10:14):
Awesome? Well, he's just he's just so knowledgeable about the game.
Speaker 24 (01:10:18):
And then he knew, i think a Japanese background and
his experienced coaching in Japan, knew how to get the
team prepared and play like the Japanese which is playing
quick and moving the ball, and that seemed to suit everyone,
the whole squad really well. And then we spent six
months leading into that which no other probably a team
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gets to do, which built cohesion and a lot of
trust amongst the playing group and the coaching staff. The
results are pretty cool in himself, but the prep was hard,
but when you get the fruits, it's pretty cool to
look back while we went through together and then what
we were able to achieve.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
And despite winning three of you four Paul games, you
didn't make the knockout rounds. As things turned out at
the end, at the end of Paul Play, was there
a to disappointment with that, even given what you had
achieved in Brighton?
Speaker 24 (01:11:11):
Yeah, probably on reflection at the you know, like it
would be pretty cool to get to the next stage,
which the next group we're able to do in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 25 (01:11:19):
It was just it was just really hard. Like I remember.
Speaker 24 (01:11:22):
After the Springbok game going up to Eddie and we
sort of I gave him a hug and knew.
Speaker 25 (01:11:28):
I was like, how are you well.
Speaker 24 (01:11:30):
I was like, yeah, we met the spring Box and
he goes, mate, we've got We've got Scotland in four days,
And I was like, Jesus has already moved on so quickly.
But as it turns out, like if you ask the
All Blacks to play the spring Box and then play
Scotland in four days, you know, it's a pretty mamoth
task in itself. Lead alone, Japan just been getting up
as the spring Box and then trying to beat Scotland.
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So it was a pretty Yeah, the cards were drawn
our way, but yeah, we did. We did what we
could do and put ourselves in a position to get
through and we just didn't have enough points in the end,
so that is what it is. But yeah, it would
have been called to go another game. Yeah, pretty we
did what we could I suppose.
Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
So where does that day rank in your rugby career?
Speaker 24 (01:12:15):
Yeah, it'd be number one, just pure sort of commitment
to what we were trying to achieve and then actually
being able to achieve it. Like I still have memories
of I think it was one hundred and forty five
seventeen All Blacks versus Japan and nine five coup in
my head, I was in primary school waking up to
that game, to putting on the jersey because I grew
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up in crosses and yeah, so we're actually wearing the
Japanese jersey, playing the spring box, you know, almost twenty
years after that, and then actually beating them.
Speaker 25 (01:12:49):
Yeah that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Yeah, special day, special day. So coaching these days obviously
its Tory How Sam How Sam Cane go?
Speaker 25 (01:12:58):
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 24 (01:12:59):
Yeah, this will be his third year and he's mixed
right into the group and yeah, his level of experience
in leadership voice has been awesome. So yeah, we're just
expecting another that you from him and leading from the front,
being the captain of the team this year, and you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Got cheess on Colby as well. Of course he had
a pretty good game last week and against the Hallplex.
I presume you called that. I presume you caught that one.
Speaker 8 (01:13:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 24 (01:13:24):
No, he's amazing, isn't he Like he's people will be
surprised when they stand next to him how small he
is but explosive and how efficiently he moves his body
in and around the big boys especially is unreal. So
there's a lot to take from Cheers. But yeah, having
those two guys in amongst the group less our team
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knowledge and and for the i Q a lot too.
So no, we're looking forward to having Cheers back when
he comes back. But yeah, it's good to see him
playing well for the spring.
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Absolutely right. Well, I appreciate say you're taking a bit
of a wander down memory lane with us today. Thanks
for your memories, your reflections. Hope you can you can
enjoy the rest of your day. Is as you think back,
we'll probably give you a call and ten years from
now to do it again.
Speaker 25 (01:14:08):
Yeah, no, thank you appreciate it. Now'll we have a
good day.
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Yeah, I hope you have a good day. To case owner,
there Japanese first five New Zealand raised. But these days
coach of Sun Tory Sun Goliath, Sam Kine Cheersland Colby
and others over there. Ten years ago I remember vividly
watching that game and it's only ten years ago. I
shouldn't be in the deep dark, distant past. But yeah,
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Japan getting up to beat South Africa. So interesting that
Coseono mentioned the one forty five seventeen from nineteen ninety
five and how far the team came. They didn't get
out of the pall that time, but of course in
their home tournament in twenty nineteen they did and continued
to be a rugby force to be reckoned. With seventeen
away from two when we come back across the Tasman
(01:14:51):
Our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock in his regular slot.
Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
The big issues on and after Fields Call oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Pain and GJ.
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Talk coming up fourteen to two. Connor bell, Our top
discus thrower, has had his first attempt in qualifying at
the World Champs. Got to throw sixty six point five
zero meters to automatically qualify for the final. His first
attempt sixty five point nine, so well over a meter
short of automatic qualifying. But he has a few more ghosts.
Two more. In fact, he can either throw sixty six
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point five or be one of the top twelve to
make it into the final. Let's get you across the
Tasman our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock standing by. Has your
week been mate?
Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Weather?
Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
Okay, yes, good finey Springshead in Sydney. So it's actually
beautiful this time of year. It's no humidity, clears guys, no.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Rain, unreal, absolutely brilliant. All right, Well, before you get
out to enjoy some of that, let's chat some sport.
The Roosters have handed Victor Radley a ten match suspension
without pay for bringing the club into disrepute. This is
after text messages between him and former teammate Brandon Smith
were leaked Psmith allegedly supplying Radley with a contact for
a deal. What's the reaction being.
Speaker 9 (01:16:08):
To this, Yeah, it's oddly sympathetic towards Victor Radley and
everyone can see through this soon as this dropped. The
story wasn't so much about Brandon Smith. It became about
Victor Radley and whether or not he'd get the sack
from the Roosters, holding the club chairman's words to account
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back in I think early February where he was having
a shot at the South Sydney because a couple of
Air players got caught up in a couple of scandals
last year. But Nick Politis, their chairman, basically said, if
any of our players get caught with it, we've got
a zero tolerance policy, we'll get rid of it. But
that's what he said. Now, Victor Radley has been mentioned
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in court documents and police allegations that he organized with
a dealer on the Sunshine Coast to go and pick
up some drugs. Now, the actors accusation only goes that far.
Doesn't say that he was caught taking them. There's no
hard evians that he took them. But everyone's gone wing wing, nudge, nudge.
You know what that means anyway, So then everything goes
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back to Nick Polite is going to sack him, and
now he's basically kind of taken two steps back Nick
Politis and said, oh no, well, what is zero tolerance anyway,
We've punished him as hard as any as we have
any other player in the history of our club. And
that's the end of the matter. So, yeah, that's the story.
It's not so much about Brandon Smith what he's doing
(01:17:38):
in his spare time this week.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
All right, then, well, let's move to onfield matters around
the NRL two semi finals. They're called this, of course,
is the right to go into the preliminary finals next weekend,
where the Storm and the Broncos have already taken up residents.
So a couple of knockout games effectively Raiders Sharks. The Raiders,
of course, on the wrong end of that extraordinary game
(01:18:00):
against the Broncos last weekend, how do you assess their
ability to bounce back tonight and beat the Sharks.
Speaker 9 (01:18:06):
So I'll tell you about the fifty five minute mark
if it's a close game, and then what transpires there
and if they blink twice again it was incredible, wasn't
a point? Did you catch it?
Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Absolutely? I caught it. I'm still catching my breath.
Speaker 11 (01:18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:18:21):
So it plowed through the end time and the six
o'clock news hit time for Channel Line over here, and
then kept going and going and going. It was extraordinary. Apparently,
Ricky Stewart. On the Monday night they had their awards
night and the players had a day off. They did
their own recovery after the game, and Ricky Stewart's rocked up.
(01:18:42):
And remember earlier in the year when Hutson, Young and
a teammate got in trouble for a few shenanigans in Vegas,
like hitting each other over the head. Yes, yes, yeah, anyway,
Ricky Stewart gets up and goes well. Was the effect
of yesterday was the second worst the thing that happened.
The worst thing that happened to me this year was
getting a call at five o'clock in Las Vegas saying
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huts and Young had been up.
Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
To some mischief.
Speaker 9 (01:19:05):
So apparently just broke the eye. I broke the room
up everyone. Yeah, helped everyone kind of get over it,
but we won't really know until the game starts and
those things happen. And look, I've got the feeling they
had the chance to ice the game and just lock
it away and they couldn't work out how to do that,
and that then gave Brisbane the chance to do what
(01:19:26):
they did. Cornella probably don't have the Strikers Brisbane last week.
I think Camberton bounce back and then we get to tomorrow.
I think about seventy thousand coming to watch the Dogs
in general.
Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Unbelieva boy. Yeah, Panther's doing a job on the Warriors
last Weekendn't there's any great surprise over here or probably
over there about that the Panthers have won at the
last four, but not from seventh place. But they're still
good goodn't they. I mean they've made it a bit
more difficult for themselves, but they'd be favorite to beat
the Bulldogs, wouldn't they.
Speaker 9 (01:19:53):
Yeah, Well, in horse racing terms, it runs over up
here because the Dogs have just got injuries left right
at the center. They got Toby Sexton back at half back,
which is not a bad thing. He played well last night.
But the big doubt is that they're inspirational captain and
one of the best leaders in regul league Stephen Crichton.
He's got a high ankle sprain and it looks like
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it's impossible for him to overcome that. So Penrith favorites
heavy favorites. I think under the odds. Personally, I think
they're three to one on as something ridiculous. But yeah,
they deserve to be where they are in terms of
the market and this time of year because they're just
coming good at SAMs.
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Can we finish with the World Track and Field Champs?
And the latest statement from Gout Gout he didn't make
the final of the two hundred meters but finished fourth
in the semi final. It's still pretty good for a
seventeen year old sprinter, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (01:20:44):
Outstanding? Yeah, that you're simply not seasoned at that age. Well, firstly,
there's a mental aspect of putting all your nerves aside
to compete against guys who had just been blowing straight
past twenty meters of a two hundred meter race, which
is what happened to him in the heat. And then
the physical aspect where these guys are just tuned after
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a decade at the top level of I know a
Lyle's one to two hundred overnight in a time of
nineteen fifty two, you around nineteen fifty one in the
final of Gougout is yet to legally break twenty seconds.
So this but everyone knows what's there, Like it's it's
just you can just tell he's got the personality he's got,
you know, things that work on technique wires, strength wise,
(01:21:28):
But the basis is there for a guy who's going
to be at the top level. I was thinking about Ponty.
How scary is this? There's every chance that goug Out
can be competing at the top of his game at
the twenty fortieth Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
That are scary. I wonderful still be doing what we're
doing today in twenty forty what's your what's your best guess?
Speaker 8 (01:21:50):
Ah, my mast answer me.
Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
Something's gone wrong wrong with me if I'm still doing it,
and me more importantly, something's gone wrong with the decision
makers to allow me to keep doing it. If we're
not about I don't know about you, piems just spaking
for myself.
Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
No, I think I can put myself an exigs the
same conversation. Always good chatting to you, mate, and you're
the rest of your weekend. We'll catch up again next Saturday. No,
thank you, mate. That's Adam Peacock, Australian correspondent. Seven to
two News Talks.
Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
eDV analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World.
Weekend Sport with Jason Pine Call eighty News Talks.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
eNB coming up four to two. After two o'clock we're
going to talk some breakers. I've got a new majority owner,
Mark Mitchell is his name. He's going to chat to
us after two o'clock. We'll also check in with Hayden Padden,
our greatest ever rally driver. He's back home for the
Ashley Forest Rally Sprint which is on this weekend. Now
on the order in Canterbury. We'll have a chat to
(01:22:47):
Hayden Padden, John Haggart on whether Otago can win the
Shield this afternoon and your chance to win when we
play us. Sporting Chants.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on
and after fields. It's all on week Jens Ford with
Jason Pane on your Sport.
Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Talk News Talks, Evy Wicked Sport Welcome Maker to seven,
Jason Pinne and Andy McDonald with you until three, then
Tim Beveridge with the Weekend Collective. Is the ran Furley
Shield going to have another new home a bit later
on Canterbury putting it up against Otago. Otago haven't had
it for a wee while. They haven't had a challenge
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Otago that I can see for about four years. So
good that they're going to finally get a crack at it,
and they're in pretty good form. Otago five wins from
their seven matches. Canterbury of course seven from seven. So
if we're talking about form teams, then you got to
put Canterbury in there as well. But they only just
defended it against Tamsman last week, didn't they? George Bell
(01:23:51):
with a try lately late in the piece to keep
the log in christ Church can Otago prize it away. Now,
Ironically enough, our expert comments man for christ Church Radio
commentaries on Gold Sport and I Heart Radio alongside Nick
Bill is John Hagett. Now John Haggett played one hundred
and eighteen games for Otago across eight seasons, so I
(01:24:13):
know he lives in christ chich but surely he wants
Otago to win. This afternoon we'll get a we'll get
a view from him this hour. Also going to chat
to Hayden Padden. He is back in New Zealand for
one of his favorite events. I'm told just outside of
ad Ange Order the Ashley Forest Rally Sprint is on
this weekend. We'll have a chat to Hayden Padden about
(01:24:35):
that and about how everything else is gone because he's
leading the Australian Rally Championship at the moment with just
two events to go. Mark Mitchell standing by the chat
to us the majority owner of the Breakers. They got
their season underway last night with a loss to the
Brisbane Bullets. But Keena rarely to chat to Mark Mitchell
about you know, why he's taken over the club and
(01:24:56):
why he's made the changes he has. It's almost a
back to the future kind of feel about it. He's
brought Dylan boucherback in, Tom Abercrombie's involved the Blackwells, you
know who used to be majority. They've almost gone back
to what they were. Keen to talk to Mark Mitchell
about that in case your mister coming shortly, But must
remind you that next Saturday, before the Bledisloe Cup Test,
(01:25:19):
the sky Fan Zone is going to be on the
Kennards Outer Oval at Eden Park. Food trucks, bars, interactive fun.
The homegrown headline acts like DJ Clint, Roberts Ala, Monterey
and King's Lots of Energy. It starts at one forty five,
I forget the All Blacks kick off at the family
friendly time of five past five, so from around quarter
(01:25:42):
to two. You can get into the fan zone if
you have a ticket to the game. So it's for
ticket holders to the game, and we're across the weekend.
Are giving away a double pass to bleed uslow one
Eden Park next Saturday. Can't get you to Auckland, sorry,
can't get you there. It's just the double pass. But
(01:26:03):
it's still pretty good, isn't it. And also, of course
you get in to the fan zone, the sky fan zone.
All you have to do to be in the draw
for the double pass is seeing the word bled us
slow to nine two ninety two. We don't need anything else,
just the word bled us slow. And as I mentioned
last hour, you must spell it correctly, otherwise it doesn't
(01:26:24):
get to us in the correct fashion. It gets to us,
but it doesn't get to the right place. It's got
to be spelt correctly. And don't add a full stop,
don't put your name or anything. It just has to
be bled us slow. I hate to labor the point,
but I feel like I need to given the number
of incorrect spellings we've had. Text bled us slow to
(01:26:45):
nine two nine two to get into the draw. We'll
make that draw tomorrow afternoon. Just keeping an eye on
Connor Bell and discus qualifying at the World Track and
Field Champs. He's had two attempts, hasn't thrown the automatic
qualifying distance yet, but we will keep eyes on his
third throw and whether he's one of the top twelve,
which at the moment I can tell you that he is.
(01:27:06):
So as long as one of these other athletes doesn't
throw it further, then Connor Bell will be in the
discus final. He's currently tenth and only twelve go through,
and we'll keep an eye on that. But with the
time approaching, Jee, I've talked longer than normally do. Eleven
past two, let's get you across some of the things
that you might have missed. A new little burst of
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music would suggest that it's time for in case you
missed it, another one for the Buffalo Bills in the
NFL three and zero. They will make to work for
it against the lowly Miami Dolphins until a big defensive
play sealed the wind.
Speaker 20 (01:27:44):
To god, it's an accept It's picked up and about
the twenty your line there on Bernarde with the huge
interception and Dian Walker got in his face as he
threw it to get the assist.
Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Thirty one twenty one, the final score to the Bills.
The first AFL Grand finalist meantime has been found more
passed up at mis clever.
Speaker 14 (01:28:11):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
This had really finished things off.
Speaker 20 (01:28:14):
Baily sit the recruits hell has brought smiles too many
faces in board Knights and.
Speaker 27 (01:28:24):
After a scared really the Kats of steamroll into its
twentieth Grand.
Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Final, dominant one hundred and fifteen eighty five win for
Geelong over Hawthorne, Collingwood up against the Brisbane Lions and
the other preliminary final tonight. The Grand Final next Saturday
afternoon at the MCG Tarahaki up to Seek and then
the NPC beating hawks Bay.
Speaker 20 (01:28:47):
Last night, Crowley gets it back to lord Ola Bosh
nice little pastor. Jacob external passing north Cottehill, hoping for
the line.
Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
JITs it back and tried to snailer. Staylor's still going
hiver the triney too.
Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
He's got to chick our.
Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Ceremonies, Hey, jack our ceremony riches Alan scores. Oh that's
a Champagne drive on. I loved it in the Phil
Quinny and the team and impress of thirty eight to
twenty four victory. There and another two hundred meters World
Championship gold medal for American sprinting star Noah Lyles.
Speaker 21 (01:29:18):
We'll get a very first time when Lyle's explodes out
of the block sold as patnaak and Level's going well
to to Bojo in touch as well in the middle
as they conground the band and Lyle's charging for the
line but patnarec level Tobojo still a touch, but Lyle's
coming through.
Speaker 8 (01:29:36):
Lyles takes it.
Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Breaking down the Hail Marys and the epic fields Weekend
Sport with Jason Pine, Newstalk zimb.
Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
News Talk's AB two thirteen. The New Zealand Breakers have
been beaten in their Australian National Basketball League season opener
at Spark Arena. Adams on the drive two seconds, will
put it out and he'll cast it and is that
the dagger in the hearts of the New Zealand Breakers.
(01:30:06):
Now this one's going to wrap up. Thank you a
nine point when to.
Speaker 20 (01:30:11):
The Prison Bullets the way they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Start NBL twenty six as they look to build up
on their efforts last year. Here the Breaker is going
down one O four to ninety five to the Brisbane Bullets.
Last night. The Breakers joint top scorers with sixteen were
American guards Parker Jackson Cartwright and debutant Isaiah Brockington. It's
quick turn around for the team. They travel today to
play Melbourne United tomorrow afternoon in their second match. The
(01:30:36):
Breakers are of course under new ownership. Keewe. American attorney
and businessman Mark Mitchell is now the majority owner of
the club after completing the purchase from Matt Walsh's US
based group back in March. His investment group also includes
successful keiw We entrepreneurs the Grist brothers, Leon and Stephen,
their business partner Sean Colgan, as well as former club
(01:30:58):
owners Paul and Liz Blackwell and ex Breaker and Toll
Black Tom Abercrombie and another club legend, Dylan Boucher is
the president of basketball operations. Mike Mitchell as well as Mark.
You were a lower level investor under the previous ownership,
So what leads you to seek to take a majority
stike in the Breakers.
Speaker 28 (01:31:18):
Well, it's great to be with you and thanks for
having me. I think it was a lot of things
to do with New Zealand, with the region, with the
growth of the game. I saw the opportunity to continue
to grow the sport and what we can do not
only on the court but in the community. I think
that's really important and that's what we're trying to get
back to with our roots. And so for me, it
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was a lot of things. And you know, being the
team for New Zealand as a as a country as
a whole was so attractive.
Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
You say, get back to that. Do you think the
club had moved away from that under the previous ownership group?
Speaker 28 (01:31:57):
I believe, so, you know, and and again you know,
we're thinking about the future. We're thinking about where we're
going and trying to do it our way. So you know,
I think the proofs in the pudding. We are going
to deliver on the promises that we're making. And you know,
the passes the past, but we're looking towards the future.
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
How can were you to reintegrate the likes of the Blackwells,
Tom Abercrombie, Dylan Boucher, names synonymous with the basketball club
in its past successes.
Speaker 28 (01:32:28):
It was hugely important when you have success on the
court and off the court and build culture that's so successful.
So in the way that they've done this in the
early two thousands with the championships, with being role models
in the community and for New Zealand youth, that was important.
And every single person who you mentioned, they're great people,
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they're great competitors, they're successful, but they all wanted to
be a part of this. They all understood what we're
trying to build. So for me, it would be silly
to not use those relationships and bring those people little board.
And so I'm very happy with the group that I
put together, and you know, we're just getting started as
far as that goes. But to really have that foundation
(01:33:16):
is we started in a really great place because of that.
Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
What is your vision for the Breakers long term?
Speaker 28 (01:33:23):
Again, we represent the entire country, so to be the
country's team in the league and the NBL, but to
the world. For us too, it's about leading in the
sport in general, so from grassroots all the way to
the professional level. So in between that you have all
of the youth programs and junior Breakers, but we're going
(01:33:44):
to bring back the Breakers Academy as well, and you know,
we have a nice partnership as well with basketball in
New Zealand and the Tall Blacks. I understand the importance
of making sure that the sport grows as a whole,
we will all benefit from that. So there's a lot
of crossover, as you know, with Dylan Boucher being our
president of Basketball Operations and former CEO of Basketball in
(01:34:07):
New Zealand, but Jed Flavell as our associate head coach,
so many of our players playing for the Tall Blacks.
So to grow the game and for New Zealand to
be successful both as a national team but also at
a professional level in the NBL.
Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
I want to talk a bit more about the community
stuff on a moment mark, But how important is it
that the team just wins basketball games?
Speaker 28 (01:34:30):
Very that's where it all begins.
Speaker 25 (01:34:33):
We're here to win, you know.
Speaker 28 (01:34:35):
I think we put together a very competitive team in
a very competitive league, but it all starts there.
Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
You know.
Speaker 28 (01:34:42):
That's what keeps people interested. You know, we've got great
fans in their diehards, but we all want to win.
That's where we start, and that's the conversation every day
in our facility.
Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Imports are obviously important to any roster in the Australia
National Basketball League and Pockajackson cat right, you've got one
of the best. A couple of debutants last night as well.
But how important is a strong Kiwi flavor on your roster.
Speaker 28 (01:35:06):
It's been really important. I think, you know, I defer
to Dylan on basketball decisions. He is really great at
his job. But one of the things that we talked
about very early was skinning back to that Kiwi core.
I told the story to our team at our jersey blessing.
(01:35:27):
I had a conversation with a former executive of one
of the NBL teams in Australia and he said to me,
you know, I probably shouldn't tell you this, but when
we used to play you guys, we were a little
bit scared.
Speaker 7 (01:35:39):
And I said, well, what do you mean by that?
He said, well, when New.
Speaker 28 (01:35:42):
Zealand played, they were playing for something different. They were
playing with the chip on their shoulder. They were playing
for the entire country and a level of pride that
we didn't see with the other teams. And I found
that to be so interesting. I think it's an advantage
that we have with our Kiwi Core. And so you know,
we want to, like I said, build the game, but
(01:36:02):
I think build the game in the country. But I
think it's really important. And as we've built this Kiwi cord.
It actually gives us a competitive advantage.
Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Do you think the Planers realize that? Do you think
they realized that the kywitness is a superpower?
Speaker 28 (01:36:16):
You nailed the word.
Speaker 8 (01:36:17):
That's the word that I use.
Speaker 28 (01:36:18):
I said, putting this jersey on is a superpower. And
I think that they agree. And I think we have
high level leadership. Uh you know from our kiwis. We
also have a bunch of young kiwis, So you know,
I think everybody understands that, and everybody plays with a
level of pride because they're representing the country.
Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I guess it's easy to quantify on court success with
you know, with results and stants and things like that, matK,
But how do you quantify off court success, the community
stuff you were talking about? What does off court success
look like for the Breakers?
Speaker 28 (01:36:50):
Well, it's funny, you know, we're now speaking a day
after the morning after a game. I got a text
this morning from someone who was at the game and
he said, I don't know what success looks like, but
you should look at this video. And there's a video
of his daughter shooting hoops in their yard and he said,
this is what she's been doing all morning. They were
at the game last night. She's obviously inspired. And success
(01:37:14):
comes in a lot of different ways, but that's one
of them. Can we touch the youth, can we be examples,
can we be out in the community, and can we
grow the game.
Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Do you see a tom when there's a women's team?
Speaker 28 (01:37:26):
I would love that, And so, you know, I think
there's a couple levels to look at that. There's obviously domestic,
there's a league and that's growing, and then the w
NBL as well is just getting its legs under itself.
I think that is something in the future that I
absolutely want to have as part of our program, and
(01:37:49):
so as the opportunities grow in the region, it's always
something that we'll be looking to add.
Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Would you describe yourself as a hands on owner of
this club?
Speaker 28 (01:38:01):
I am very involved, but I've hired great people and
you know, they are empowered to do their jobs, and
I feel really wonderful about our staff, our front office,
and and the playing can continue as well, and the
coaching staff, I mean all phases. I think we've we've
gotten some great people who are very talented but also
(01:38:25):
good folks. So for me, you know, it's about setting
the vision. I'm in touch with everybody all the time,
but I'll never micro manage folks.
Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
An the result you're after last night to start the season,
but it's only the first game. What did you make
of last night?
Speaker 28 (01:38:42):
Well, as as a basketball fan, you know we can
only shoot better than we did last night, so I'm
actually encouraged. You know, we played pretty well with the
shots just didn't fall. I will tell you this, it
is very different watching it from this perspective as the
owner of a team is quite nerve wracking.
Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
So it was a fun time.
Speaker 28 (01:39:03):
You know, the atmosphere in the arena was great, But
I think, you know, for the first game, not a
bad start. We have things obviously on the court we
we're going to keep working on, but are very confident
in our team and in our coaching staff that you
know we'll continue to be very competitive, uh, in every game.
And this league, like I mentioned, is so competitive top
(01:39:24):
to bottom, but you know we'll be right there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
You've landed on a red in string point. I've actually
wondered that you know, what's so much skin on the game,
you know, being the owner of this club, now, are
you able to actually enjoy a game of basketball? That
the breaker is applying what do you do?
Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
You just sitting there with a nolt in your stomach
the whole time.
Speaker 8 (01:39:39):
He'll be determined.
Speaker 28 (01:39:40):
Last nay, it was more of a of a not
in the stomach scenario. So you know, hopefully we'll ease
into this. I told my wife last night, I said,
I don't know if I can do this thirty two times,
you know, because it is very stressful. You want what's
best for the guys and you want that that result
that everybody wants, which is to win. So we'll see.
Speaker 12 (01:40:02):
We'll see how I do.
Speaker 28 (01:40:03):
But like I said, it's a new experience.
Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
But when I'm embracing I bet sounds like it. Great
to have the new season underway. Great to have you
at the hell. Mark, thanks for joining us. Look forward
to catching up across the season again sometime.
Speaker 8 (01:40:14):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Look forward to talking again. Yes so do I Mark.
Thanks indeed, Mark Mitchell there majority owner of the Breakers.
So I lost last night one four ninety five to
the Brisbane Bullets, but no time to really dwell on that.
Off they go to Melbourne where tomorrow afternoon they'll play
Melbourne United. Next home game is next Saturday at Beckett
Spark Arena, obviously against against the Perth Wildcats. Producer Andy
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went to the basketball last night despite the result, How
was the game night experience last night?
Speaker 13 (01:40:44):
Oh, it's always very fun going to going to a
Breakers game, and I give the old ownership credit for
actually maintaining that, and particularly under the new owners it
was a lot of Yeah, a lot of fun. And
basketball is a sport that actually lends itself to that
as well. So yeah, but they just need to practice
hitting their threes. Man, you can't win games shooting or
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eighteen percent three now. A lot of fun though, good advice.
So yeah, so more balls and hoops? Is that what
you're saying, More balls and hoops or just keep taking
it to the rack if it's if it's if you're
not hitting your three, So if you're shooting that poorly,
just just getting get into the paint, because that's when
they really played well. I've gone away from the game
to experience and now just critiquing them as a as
a fan of the team. But come on, guys, you
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shoot better.
Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
I don't mind that, you know, I don't mind the
use of the jargon in the paint. Take it to
the rack.
Speaker 13 (01:41:33):
I love that just as I think as my old
one of my old head coaches used to say, ed Book,
he used to say, just get the ball and lay
it in. It was just as simple as that, Piney.
They just needed to get get inside and just because
they were doing well when they were doing.
Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
That, more balls and hoops. More balls and hoops, that's
what they need. Connor Bell is through to the final
of the men's discuss at the World Track and Field
Champs in Tokyo. He has qualified eleventh with the best
throw of sixty five point nine meters in qualifying, so
he is through. Earlier today medially wish he needed just
one throw to make it through to the final of
the women's shot puts. She threw nineteen point twenty seven meters,
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seven centimeters longer than the automatic qualifying mark, and Tory
Moreby also won and done in the women's javelin. She's
into the final of that. So it's been very very
good World Track and Field Champs. We've had goals to
Hamish Kerr and Jordy Beamish, three of our pole vaulters
in the women's pole vault final, and now Connor Bell,
Tory Morby and Maddie Lee wishy all into their finals.
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Might drill down into that tomorrow just how good is
this historically but also how promising is it for what
might lie ahead to twenty six Quick check on NPC Rugby,
Bunnings MPC couple of games going on at the moment.
Auckland's miserable season is continuing in Pukakoi. Their twenty one
kneel down after twenty minutes against Counties Manico and Auckland
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have Rico Yuanni and Caleb Clark in their starting side.
Camroyguard waiting on the bench for Counties. They're going to
give him half an hour or so gets through that, okay,
which we will keep our fingers crossed that they will.
He'll be in the All Blacks next week to take
on South Africa and fourteen to five Wellington leads Southland
after eighteen minutes at Pottidoor Park. There are a few
All Blacks and the Wellington team too. Reuben Love, also
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Peter Larkeye and Kyle Preston all in the starting fifteen.
There Wellington leeds Southland fourteen points to five two twenty seven.
Going to take a break when we come back. It
is our most successful rally driver of all time Hayden Patten.
He's back in New Zealand for the Ashley Forest Rally
Sprint this weekend. We'll have it chat to him right
after this one.
Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Crutch Hold Engage weekends for It with Jason PyME and
GJ Gunners, new Zealand's most.
Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Trusted home builder News talk to Baby Bang on two thirty.
The Ashley Forest Rally sprints on this weekend now Lungy
Order in Canterbury are fast and challenging one point seven
kilometer gravel hill climb first held in nineteen seventy nine
and since then it's become one of New Zealand's most
iconic mote sport events, attracting many of the country's top
drivers as well as international names over the years. As well.
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New Zealand's most successful rally driver, Hayden Padden is a
regular competitor at Ashley Forrest. He's won at five times
more than anybody else twenty eleven twenty nineteen at each
of the last three and has the course record of
fifty two seconds flat, which he set in twenty twenty three.
Hayden Padden is with us. Is this one of your
favorite events?
Speaker 8 (01:44:33):
Hey?
Speaker 29 (01:44:34):
Yeah, it's certainly a favorite one for sure, just particlarly
with the history and it's a very different format to
the type of events we normally do, but it's a
lot of fun and a lot of adrenalins.
Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
You first competed here as a fourteen year old. That
must have been one of the first significant events in
your motorsport journey, was it.
Speaker 29 (01:44:51):
Yeah, seems like a long time ago, but posicially on
my fourteenth birthday as well, driving my dad's roller. And yes,
it's quite humbling just to remember what we've done in
the last twenty years since then, and they come back
with our own team in cars and continue to enjoy
this event.
Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
So how does it work, Hayden? Across the weekend? How
many cracks do you get at it?
Speaker 29 (01:45:09):
Yeah, so it's a different format. I rally today elimination format,
so like today is qualifying and then tomorrow we go
in and to shootout. So top thirty two, sixteen eighty
four and two. So nothing's predictable. Even if you're the
fastest car around, you still want to get to reach
around with no problems. And I guess you know that's
what adds to the excitement for the fans and for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Absolutely, So you're you're still alive as we speak, presumably.
Speaker 29 (01:45:34):
Yeah, No, everything's gone well. So we've done two qualifying
runs so far, another two to go today with it's
not looking so good tomorrow, which is which is not
good for us trying to try to beat our record,
But in saying that, you just got to play on
the conditions that we handed and you know, we're trying
to do the best job we can today while the
weather's good.
Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Ye know, well that record fifty two seconds flat in
your Hyundai I twenty eight p four and twenty twenty three.
As you as your driving, do you know your your
close to record speed or does that only occur to
you once once the clock stops.
Speaker 29 (01:46:06):
Yeah, it's difficult rallying because you're obviously on your own.
You don't have those reference points of other cars, and
there's so many variables also with the road. Conditions plays
a big part. So we can see this year, for example,
the road's not fast, so that plays a major factor
in it. So yeah, it's really hard to gauge your time,
and you know, particularly over this shorter space of road,
there's no room the era and you know every tenth
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for second becomes quite critical.
Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
I mentioned the it the Cando it I twenty AP four.
Then you've been a driving force behind some groundbreaking projects
with AP four hill climbs and n EV rally programs
as well. Can you just explain AP.
Speaker 10 (01:46:41):
Four for us?
Speaker 8 (01:46:44):
Oh?
Speaker 29 (01:46:44):
Yeah, Basically AP four is a New Zealand concept. It
pretty much is born from the International Rally too speed car,
which is the same car that we run in Europe,
but it's just sort of done on a lower budget
to try and make it more affordable for Kiwi competitors.
So the AP four concept has been around for nearly
ten years now, and the Rally two car, which is
the same as we're rallying in Australia this year and
Europe last year, is probably the more common car now.
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But the AP four allows you to use a bit
of Kvy ingenuity and number eight wire and you know,
particularly events like this where we can put nine hundred
horsecar under the engine and Bighero gives you a lot
more flexibility.
Speaker 8 (01:47:16):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
And in twenty twenty two you made history by taking
victory in this event in an electric car, first time
the event I'd ever been won in an electric car.
How significant was that huge for our team?
Speaker 29 (01:47:27):
You know, we've got the electric car here again this year,
and that was a big project for us five years
ago and we launched it and as a small team
in Central Targo, the build and design one of these
cars and be the world's first doing it was something
that we're pretty proud of. And then the're bringing that
and to win was was I guess the cherry on top.
So it's still an ongoing R and D project. We're
doing a lot with electrification and hydrogen within the industry.
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So yeah, as Paul as the big horsepower combustion cars
are and that's what we all love and motorsport, it's
actually it's a lot of fun and a good challenge. We'
dabbling with the technology as.
Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Well, so that's what you're racing this weekend. Have you
made a few changes to any modifications.
Speaker 29 (01:48:03):
Oh yeah, we're on the AP four, so we got
more power more this year. The EV is much the
same as it has been the last couple of years.
It's a pretty good platform that doesn't need a whole lot,
so but yeah, every year you're always trying to find
something more, you know, the beauty and motor support, as
if you're standing still, you're going backward. So it's always
about trying to push.
Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
The envelop So you mentioned the weather before, so are
you I mean, it's fifty two flat realistic this weekend
or might that not be possible?
Speaker 8 (01:48:28):
It may not be possible.
Speaker 29 (01:48:29):
Normally the record time always comes on the second day
as the road develops over the weekend and sweeps off
and becomes faster. So now with the rain tomorrow, we've
still got to try and do it today. So I
think it's it's a tough ass, but we will certainly
give it a crack. But you know, long term, you know,
we want to try and break the fifty second barrier.
You know, I remember when the minute barrier was broken
here some thirty five or forty years ago by Rod Millan.
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To try and do full circle and go ten seconds
quicker and get under the fifty is the ultimate goal.
So it's what we'll work towards over the next.
Speaker 8 (01:48:57):
Year or two.
Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Unreal So, I mean you mentioned before that a tenth
of a second is quite a long time and this
so to shave a couple more seconds off, where do
you find though, Where do you find that extra extra
pace or how do you shave two seconds off?
Speaker 29 (01:49:11):
Yeah, well you're right, it doesn't sound a lot two seconds,
but here it is a lot. It's a mountain of
the climb. But it's just about the accumulation of everything.
You know, the road condition's being right, we can keep
adding more power, keep adding more aero. It's just a
constant development race.
Speaker 8 (01:49:26):
You know.
Speaker 29 (01:49:26):
That's a beauty of motorsport. It is just constantly moving toward.
So yeah, we're just going to keep questioning ourselves and
the whole team and see if we can reach out target.
Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
You're such an advocate for rally driving, Hayden, You've talked
openly about the potential in years ahead to run a
top flight WRC team from New Zealand's gutter regulation changes.
Do you believe that's realistic?
Speaker 8 (01:49:47):
Oh?
Speaker 29 (01:49:47):
Yeah, certainly the goal. There's a new rule sick from
the WRC that's looking to be launched for twenty twenty seven,
and these new rules are going to give opportunities to
teams like ourselves to go out and build and prepare
our own car. And you know, my goal is about
to do that from the Zealand run on New Zealand
team A bit like what you know New Zealand doing
sale GP or America's Cup is to really take the
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you know, been proud from this country. There's a lot
of good engineers and technicians in this country and been
able to utilize that and take on the world. So yeah,
these opportunities that are going to be coming. We're still
working from the business models and how we fund it
and that's another challenge on his own. But from a
personnel side and expertise, we've certainly got the got what
we need here in jail and to do.
Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
The job outstanding. And you're currently leading the Australian Rally
Championship after four of six events, just Adelaide and Tasmania
to come. You've won the last three. Are you just
getting better the more you do this?
Speaker 8 (01:50:38):
Oh?
Speaker 29 (01:50:38):
I don't know about I'm getting older as well a
few more great heads. But yeah, obviously Australia, we're loving
the challenge over there for the first time and the
motivated fact there was obviously you know, growing up watching
poss and Born and what he did and nausey dominated
for many years and to now go over and try
and compete with the same you know that the sons
of Neil Bates, who is who possibly you to compete against?
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Brings back a lot of memory. So yeah, started off
a bit rough with the kangaroo and counter shall we say,
but we've sort of got things back on track since
then and hopefully we can continue it last two rounds.
Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
What did you have the kangaroo in the first event?
Speaker 29 (01:51:09):
Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, the kangaro ran across the road and
wiped out the car so far. Yeah, it was the
internate rally, so behave we've learned about the local wildlife
now so we can move on.
Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
See that won't happen on Ashley at Ashley Forest. No
kangaroo's up there, mate, No, all.
Speaker 29 (01:51:24):
I've seen plenty of while of the down and why
many forests actually so they come close.
Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
All right, I had a great to chat. Made awesome
to have you home. Thanks for taking the time this afternoon,
and all the best across the weekend.
Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
That's Hayden pad and joining us our best ever rally
driver at the Ashley Forest Rally Sprint on this weekend
now along the order in Canterbury. All right, I'm just
had a look up at the TV where there's an
MPC game on between Wellington and Southland half an hour gone,
Wellington thirty five five ahead. What's gone on there? Thirty
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five five Wellington ahead of Southland? Quick check on the
other game and County's Manico are twenty eight to seven
ahead of Auckland after thirty minutes. So some some optional
defending going on by the sounds of it in both
Pokacoe and Pottydoer, what are we coming up? Twenty one
to three? Can to check in with John Haggart shortly.
He is in the expert comments seat for the ran
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Furley Shield challenge from his former Otago side against Canterbury
this afternoon. Does he think that that shield might find
another new home this year? Well we'll find out from
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Okay, I'm gonna give you three options, all right, so
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It's like it's like going for the high offer on
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homes in twenty twenty five. It nearly had a fifth
one last weekend.
Speaker 27 (01:55:48):
Numbers to the left tall category. Hold on to the shelf.
George Bell writes his neighbor too readfully sheld folklore. He
flew it from Wellington this morning and he scores the betswitter.
Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
H We'll Sharon to be hoping for a lot more
of that this afternoon. With the Bell Brothers, the Red
and Blacks fending off Tasman right at the end last weekend.
Today they welcome Otago to christ Church. Four thirty five
Otago's first crack at the Loggerwood in four years. They
last held the shield in twenty twenty, but only for
a week. They beat Tattanaki thirty nineteen in Englewood, but
the following weekend Hawksby came to Dunedin and ran out
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comfortable twenty eight points to nine winners. It's been four
years since Otago even had a crack at the Shield.
They come to christ Church in good form third on
the table five wins from seven Canterbury though seven from seven.
John Haggart played one hundred and eighteen games for Otago
across eight seasons, won the NPC in nineteen ninety one.
He provides expert comments in our christ Church based commentaries
(01:56:53):
on Goldsport and iHeartRadio. Look, I know you live in
christ Church now, Hags, but surely you want Otaga to
win this.
Speaker 8 (01:57:01):
It is funny.
Speaker 5 (01:57:02):
Yeah, I'm going to put in both camps really because
the end up coaching Canterbury. The only way to get
hold of the shield and get a sniff of the
shield when I was going from a target it was
to move to christ Church. So I was fortunate enough
to challenge but never quite make it with a Targer.
But when I come to christ Church, yeah, minutes to
win it and lose it as a coach, and certainly
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tasted tasted pretty pretty nice when you had that shield
under you under your belt.
Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
You reckon otago are a chance this afternoon?
Speaker 8 (01:57:30):
Well absolutely.
Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
I think one of the things that you find with
a targer, like I think was in the fifties when
I was down there, that they hadn't won it before.
And there's a whole whole generation of people that have
never ever seen the shield, so they understand the significance
and the importance of it. And I think Mark Brown's
got got a team functioning really really well this year.
Speaker 8 (01:57:48):
Full of confidence. They'll come up.
Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
They'll give it one hundred percent. They know how important
it is for the attager public. So there'll be a
lot on the line this afternoon for those are target. Boy,
was it you know, once in a lifetime opportunity. I
know when I played down there, you know, I was
in the great Canterbury era when they held it for
twenty five I think defenses, and then in the mid
to late eighties sixty one defenses. So you know, we
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hardly ever got a challenge, So it doesn't come around
very often sometimes, and when it does, you've got to
have a real crack and I know the tagger balls
will be up for it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Yeah, from what I can see here, you had a
couple of Cracks had it while Auckland had it in
that incredible tenure of Theirs. You lost twenty seven seventeen
in nineteen eighty eight and then forty five nine in
nineteen ninety. But you look at that Auckland side in
nineteen ninety Hacks, it's just it's an all black side.
McDow fit's Patrick Brown, the Weetons, the Brooks, Michael Jones,
Grant Fox, Craig Innis vaying a Twigamala, John Kerw and
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Terry Wright. What are you supposed to do against a
team like that?
Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
Yeah, I mean yeah, fantastic team, fantastic players, and you
know why they held it for so long. They were
it was like Planiel Blacks and I remember it, you know,
very clearly as if it was yesterday. Some of those
some of those players, I think now today what we've got,
We've got players spread much more throughout the country and
it's a great sign that we got you know, size
like Southon for example, and not over a white cuttle,
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and so anyone can bet anyone on a given day.
So that's what makes the Shield so special and such
a such a fun competition to be involved in.
Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
From a sorry a challenges point of view in particular,
I know you probably say, look, it's just another week,
we do all the same things. You know, it's just
another game. But were you able to really achieve that
as a player or a coach when you knew that
there was a ran Fully Shield Challenge at the end
of that week.
Speaker 17 (01:59:33):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 8 (01:59:34):
Pine.
Speaker 5 (01:59:34):
I think everyone tries things that they think are going
to it's going to be the magic solution, and at
the end of the day, I don't think there is
actually a magic solution to unlocking the key to a
victory for the Renfully sure know, Lori mains in eighty
four was the first challenge I was involved, and luckily
I was sitting on the embankment Lancaster Park that day
and the reserves and they didn't put me on. We
got about forty odd points.
Speaker 27 (01:59:56):
His idea was.
Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
Would have a carbohydrate diet that week and would take
the train up and would all be focused and we'd
all perform well. It didn't work, So that was one
of the pieces of the magic formula that was tried
and was biffed out into the beyond. So yeah, I
think as a coach and a player, you just got
to focus on what you do well. And I think
in Targo's case this afternoon, you know, they won five
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out of seven a lot of confidence. There were some
very good players there. I love the way the likes
of Pleedger and Miller are controlling the game. They've also
got a rule of attacking mindset, so I'm looking forward
to watching them continue that this afternoon. Now if they don't,
if they don't have a crack, you know the old
saying nothing, we've meatured nothing games. So they're gonna have
a crack at Canbury this afternoon. So I think they'll
stick to their pattern, stick to how they've played this year,
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and hopefully come away with the goal at the end.
Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Absolutely, and it obviously clearly still means something, doesn't it. John.
You know, you look at the scenes of the teams
and we've had quite a few this year. The teams
that have won it, you know, when when White Cuttall
won it, when South w W. I don't think Canterbury
celebrated too much when they won it, but it clearly
means a lot to Tasman last week and they almost
won it. This log's got a special lust about it
still hasn't it.
Speaker 8 (02:01:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:01:09):
Absolutely, and long may that continue. You know, I Rember
as a young lad ninety seventy four, I was living
in Timaru and South Canterbury. We knocked over Marlborough and
they brought that home and that excitement in my life
has never never waned, and it's certainly still there for
the youngsters of today and even the old diggers that
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are watching, they love watching the shit Shield challenges. So yeah,
if you're listening and you're wanting to get along for
a game this afternoon, get along on this the christ
your son and enjoy a great, great afternoon forty.
Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
We'll tune in to you guys calling it on gold
Sport and iHeart Radio. Really good to Chad Hags, Thanks
for taking the time mate, have a great call this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (02:01:48):
Cheers, Thanks Bonie, all the.
Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Best, mate, John hag It there Otago stalwart for mc
cannbury coach of course and part of our commentary team
on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio, bringing you in PC and
in this case ran fully shield coverage this afternoon four
point thirty five in christ You just kick off time
nine to three New Stalks dB, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
Down to the line. You made a call on ten
eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pine News Talk zemb.
Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Coming up five to three. That's pretty much us updating
you on halftime scores and the Buddings MPC, Coundies, Manico
Lee Auckland thirty five fourteen and Pocka Coe and Wellington
forty two points to five ahead of Southland. Six converted
tries for Wellington in the first half at Jerry Collins
Stadium out in Pottydoor. Quick look, get to the show tomorrow.
Is the Bleddersloe Cup under threat from the Wallabyes over
(02:02:38):
the next couple of weeks and I talked to the
voice of the Wallaby Shawn Maloney tomorrow and Grace Wiky
from the Silver Ferns after what's been a pretty tumultuous
time for the team and the Tiny Jamison Trophy over
the week ahead. Thanks for listening in tim beverage after three.
Thanks to Andy McDonald for producing what is our exit
song today?
Speaker 20 (02:02:55):
Mate?
Speaker 13 (02:02:55):
Well one hundred and forty seven is the total misspelt
Bledderslow cuts that has come through on the tech on
the text machine, which I imagine would leave Lord Bleddersloy
absolutely rolling in his grave. So the the only appropriate
song I could think of was the two thousand and
eight hit from the ting Tings That's Not My Name.
Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
I Love It.
Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
Cinemark.
Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
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