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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Let's rip into its Weekend Sport Afternoon and welcome Elliott
Smith in for Jason Pine on this labor day long weekends.
Very good afternoon to you show producer Andy McDonald. The
twenty sixth of October twenty twenty five, Big Happy birthday
to Ken Rutherford and Karen Read, a couple of former

(00:51):
New Zealand captains celebrating today across their chosen sports. Twenty
eight years to the day too since the gent Ville
Nerve became the first IF one champ from Canada. Big
old show this afternoon, So Dame Nolean Toldoer gets her
job back, actually has the title again. She has been reconfirmed,
reinstated as the head coach of the siwer Ferns, but

(01:15):
won't actually be in charge of the side again until
twenty twenty six. We have a resolution to the saga
that has dragged on and on. Common sense I think
has probably prevailed. I want your thoughts though throughout the
afternoon and we'll go to Jenny Wiley soon as well,
the CEO of Netball New Zealand. She's standing by to

(01:35):
discuss how they reached the conclusion, what it means and
what changes will we made to the siwer Ferns environment
to allow Dame Noling Polder to come back. As you
heard in the news in sunder Lam's twenty twenty five minutes,
Joseph Parker suffering what we can probably term a shock
loss to Fabio Wardley in London. Wardley's a good fighter.

(01:58):
Joseph Parker, though, was expected to take this about out.
We'll get you to the od To Arena. What does
this mean for Joseph Parker his career. Liam Napier is
our man on the grounds in London. He'll tell us
exactly how it unfolded and what it means. Canterby take
out the NPC deserved one is after having the better
of the second half. But if that doesn't make you

(02:20):
fall in love with the NPC again, no matter your allegiance,
the crowd, the noise, the sunshine, the occasion will take
you to Canterbury today. I'm sure, the celebrations have been
going on heartily throughout the night the one day as
black Caps in England start today too, Let's hope we
get some cricket after the damp squib that was the

(02:40):
T twenty series. Black Caps coach Rob Walter joined us.
We'll also head inside Wellington Phoenix camp as well before
the show is out. They have their first home game
of season twenty twenty five at twenty six in the
A League as well. Phoenix captain Alex Ruffert to join
the program. Your calls and texts are encouraged right throughout

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the program. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two
ninety two a text message. We will take you rights
around the Sporting Globe this afternoon, but your calls and
texts make the show what it is. We look forward
to channing throughout the program, but as it ticks over
ten after midday, let's get into it on New Talks EDB.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
When it's down to the line. You made a call
on eight hundred ten eighty Weekend Sport News Talks VB.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well The email drops at six o'clock last night from Netburne,
New Zealand. The media release Netborne New Zealand is pleased
to confirm Dame no Ling Poldor will return as silver
Fern's head coach effective today. To minimize disruption to the
silver Ferns currently competing international internationally. Interim coaching appointments will
remain in place until the conclusion of the Northern tour.

(03:53):
Over the past two months, Netborn New Zealand and Dame
Norlean have been working on changes to the Silver Ferns
program and environment. They and it goes on, have agreed
to implement enhancements to support well being and performance, including
strengthening the player voice. Joining us now to explain what
that all means is the Chief executive Officer of the

(04:14):
Netball New Zealand, Jenny Wiley on new stalk Zebbe. Jenny,
thank you for your time this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
How did you arrive at this decision to putting Dame
Noldine Total back as silver Fern's coach.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, it's clearly something that we've been working on over
the last two months and we're just delighted that we've
been able to reach a resolution to this matter and
reinstate Dave Nolen as head.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Coach of the sil Feds.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Did you have to meet in the middle Howard negotiations.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, as you know, in a high performance environment, you're
dealing with people at the top end of the game,
whether that's coaches or athletes, and so for that very reason,
everyone wants to perform at their best and have processes
that work to allow that to happen. Both Netble, New Zealand,
Dame Nolean and for the athletes, it was important to

(05:10):
be able to ensure that we reached their common understanding
of what those things were and put the process in
place to move forward.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Your media release is Nepble and New Zealand and Dame
Nolean have agreed to implement enhancements to support well being
and performance, including strengthening the play of voice. Can you
outline what exactly that means for us, Jenny, Well, there's a.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know, I think across thought there is a heightened
awareness of the challenges of what is needed to stay
at the top of your game and how to adapt
and grow in the changing environment that we find ourselves in.
So we are looking at a working group of how
we pull those enhancements together and what they might look

(05:56):
like to make sure that going forward this environment is
fit for purpose.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Does this mean that the players basically have more say
in then how things are running the team?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well, I think for everyone to perform at your best,
you have to physically and mentally be able to be
at your best, and we've got to adapt our way
of working to make sure that we enable that. So
there will be increased level of engagement with players and
management to allow us to facilitate those changes.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Does this suggest that Dame Nolean's methods or coaching style
was maybe, I guess too old school for want of
a bit of term.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I think what this tells us is we can't we
can't rest on our laurels. We can't do what we've
done historically and moving forward, we must continue to grow
and adapt and be different so that these civil fans
can be on the you know, on the world stage
and perform.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Are you happy with the resolution that's been reached?

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, I think we.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Have every confidence that we now have agreement collectively on
the changes that are required for us to move forward,
and you know that we have a pathway to reach that.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Why is she only taking over again once the Northern
tour is completed.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, Look, it has been a really difficult time for everyone,
and we all agreed collectively to minimize.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Disruption for the Silver Ferns.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
They have a really tight turnaround off the end of
Constellation Cup, three days I think before they head up
to the Northern Tour, so we all agreed that that
was best to be able to keep the interim coaching
structure in place to minimize any further.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Disruption for them an event.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Mccaus and jury and that her assistant Leana are happy
with that as well.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, we've we've always been in contact with our coaches
to make sure that they're in a really challenging environment
with a lot of uncertainty, So it's been important to
be able to keep those lines of communications open and
they're really confident that they've got clarity of what they're
able to do in the direction of travel for that

(08:09):
Northern tour.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So Damielan's back in the job effective immediately, but not
coaching again for a few months. So what does she
do for the next few months? Is this shed plan
for the Commonwealth Games next year? What will what will
your expectations be?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Oh, in the intervening period, we will be working really
closely on the enhancements and changes in that environment. We'll
be doing that together.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Do you stand by the decision to stand her down
from the job?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Jenny, Look, we you know, I think I think we're
really clear that we could. We had concerns raised that
warranted us taking them seriously. Neple New Zealand has a
duty of care and as difficult as this has been

(08:53):
and the timing, we think NEPLE will be better for
this ultimately.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
In the media releases, says nothing was found during the
process that called her integrity into into questions. So what
did you find during that process?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Look, I think, as you will appreciate throughout, we are
not going to talk about the specifics of what those
concerns were. But what we are really confident is that
we have plans in place and we are able to
address them. And that has always been the most important
thing for us. This was always about how do we listen,

(09:31):
learn and grow.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Has trust been broken? Do you think on either side
as a result of this process?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Well, I think it's been challenging to everyone, hasn't it. Sure,
and none of us wanted to be doing this out
in the out, in the public eye, but we were
always maintained that this was always about bringing Nolline back
into the environment and in order to do that where

(10:01):
we need to be able to rebuild and move forward.
But I think what we do know is as we
have made decisions that will be important to guide the
future of this game and that in the long run
we can do that together.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Did the comments from Mark Mitchell the Sports Minister this
week and talking about Sport New Zealand coming along and
perhaps intervening or trying to get this process to a resolution,
did that expedite things over the last few days.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Look, it has been amazing to have the support of
Mark and Mark Mitchell and Sport New Zealands. But we
were really close to a resolution anyway before those comments
came out, So yeah, great to have their support along
the way.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Jenny Wiley with us. Jenny, how will you reintroduce Dame
Nolean Todo into the environment? Do you have to Well,
you know, I guess it's not until the players return
from the Northern Tour. But have you thought about that
and how you get them? Do you need to get
them around a table or into a camp or something
like that, So to reintroduce Dame Nolean into the environment.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, I think what we have got is time while
the ferns are away on the northern camp, We've got
time to sit down and really think about what that
looks like. And we'll be using that time wisely to
ensure that we give this you know, heir to these
areas of change and make sure that we put them
in place really in ansound and considered way.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
As have you spoken to any players as a result
of this and what was their reaction to this news?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, I think it was really important as key stakeholders
that players were aware they weren't surprised by any any position.
But as you will also acknowledge, they're in camp for
the Soul Ferns and they have Australia tomorrow, so they
now feel equipped to be able to address this and
then probably most of them are stoked that there's a resolution.

(11:59):
So I think that's the focus now of getting out
there and performing well against Australia.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Jenny, do you think Netborn New Zealand's reputation has taken
a hit from this whole saga and how hard has
it been because I know you as an organization have
not said a lot and you've had to watch the
public feeling around this dissipate through talk back through social
media over the last couple of months. But do you
think your organization's reputation has taken a hit.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Well, I think, as you.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Say, we're playing this out in the public eye and
generally not too many organizations need to do that. I
think what we have done is that there is a
heightened awareness of the challenges in sport now. But ultimately,
this is a game that is one hundred years old.
We're in good health, our playing numbers of women and

(12:49):
girls in this country are growing, and those young people
aspire to be silver Ferns. And if we've got a
silver ferns environment that is better for this process, then
in the long run, netball will be better for this process.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And now you can focus on the tea this afternoon
in Hamilton and hope that the still fans get back
into the series with a victory in front of their
home fans.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Oh, there's nothing better than a home crowd to support
our silver Ferns. They always rise to the occasion. So
we're looking forward to both Hamilton today and christ Church
on Wednesday to be able to put some good netball
out on court.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Ginny, appreciate your time with us on news Talk ZEBB
this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Go well, thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
That was Genny Wiley, the chief executive of Netborne, New Zealand,
joining us on news Talk ZEBB. Your reaction to that interview,
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two
for a text message. Did we get to the bottom
of anything there? I mean, Dame Nolene told her he's
got a job back, but she's not back at the

(13:56):
Helm for another few months really because she's not going
to coach on the Northern Tour, not going to coach
at the Constellation Cup. Is this the right resolution? And
are you happy that we've got Dame nolean told or
back coaching the Silver Ferns Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty nine two nine two for a text message. We
didn't learn a lot about what the enhancements to quote

(14:20):
the media release are going to be, but it sounds
like the players will have a bit more of a voice.
Is this the right resolution? Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty nine two nine two for a text message. Your
reaction to that interview with Dame nol Las. Sorry with
with Ginny Wiley, we did reach out hopefully for Dame

(14:42):
Nolan told her, I understand she might talk to the
media at some point this week. I'm still at a
loss as to why she's not taking over for the
Northern Tour. I know there's three games three days in
between the Constellation Capy ending and the players leaving for
the Northern Tour. But to me, if she's the coach,
surely you get the coach back in there. It's only

(15:07):
nine months or so to go until the Commonwealth game.
Surely you need your head coach there, regardless of us
going to be a change a new coach coming back
in for the rest of the cycle. Oh eight hundred
and eighty and eighty nine two nine two for a
text message, Let's go to the lines, afternoon, John, how
are you?

Speaker 9 (15:25):
I was good until I heard her talking right? Put
it that way, What.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Did you make of it? Is this the right resolution
for Netball New Zealand.

Speaker 9 (15:35):
It's the right resolution for Dame nor Leans first of all. Secondly,
she danced their owns the reason. What about the review
for the whole management and how it was it was
the whole the organization?

Speaker 10 (15:48):
How like?

Speaker 9 (15:49):
So if another situations up again, is that hardly going
to handle this?

Speaker 11 (15:54):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Quite possibly?

Speaker 12 (15:55):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (15:57):
Where's accountability? She danced the rounds. No one, that's that question?

Speaker 13 (16:01):
Why?

Speaker 9 (16:01):
And then why wasn't it asked.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
We didn't get to the bottom of what exactly the
complaints were. She wouldn't say that.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
We're to get we're needing to get to the bottom
of it. Otherwise we're going to what's the point.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Of a is well exactly exactly. I think they need
to be upfront now that they've got a resolution and they've.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
Well I put it this, just put the question after it.
Does anybody who trust in the Nepal.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Management judging by the judging by the text line this
afternoon probably not oh eight hundred eighty nine ninety two
for a text message. A load of texts that have
come through, and I'll get to those in a moment,
but let's go to Janey afternoon.

Speaker 14 (16:40):
Janey, Yeah, good afternoon. I've never talked to you before,
so it's it's nice to be able to do so.
Ion I reconnect women you were talking to. She needs
to go. She didn't say anything out standing. There's a
lot of just burbling. Really, we knew all what everything
she said, nothing new.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Are you happy to see Dame Nolean told her back
at the helm of this team.

Speaker 14 (17:05):
Though, Janney, I am, but I think it needs to
go and needs to be done and a bit of
digging needs to be done. And like I say, if
it's not done, that woman you spoke who needs to
needs to walk because what that lady for a woman's
been through it being shocking for her and her family.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Do you think she should be back at the helm
straight away, Janie, I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
While we're waiting, of course you should be.

Speaker 14 (17:32):
What a load of nonsense that is too, No, she
got to go.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Thank you, Janie, nice to chat with you this afternoon
one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two
for a text message, load of text messages. I did
not hear what I wanted to hear, and that is
the CEO announcing her resignation for what has been an
absolute stuffer. That's from Ross from Hamilton and other says
that she should be on the sideline today for God's sake.

(17:57):
Scott says, this, hey mate, good interview on your part. However,
all we heard was a well crafted communication piece mastering
the art of deflection. Plenty of text in on nine
two nine too I'll catch up with some of those
at a moment or two Grants afternoon.

Speaker 15 (18:13):
Yeah, Elliott, Well, Dame Nolean's old school coaching methods last
year won us the Constellation Cup off Australia for the
first time in many years. It looks like we're certainly
going to lose the Constellation Cup this year, possibly for Nol.
And you know, you've got to wonder, do you think

(18:36):
maybe old school coaching might be better?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Well, Danmelene Danelen's record speaks for itself. It's not a
perfect record, but she's won a World Cup with her
coaching methods.

Speaker 13 (18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (18:49):
Yeah, And you know, I agree with what Texas and
previous callers have said about about Jenny Wiley. I mean,
it's a waste of time coming on and talking a
lot but saying nothing. I mean that they haven't even
sorted out. It looks like the beginnings of how the
new system is going to work. They're going to form

(19:10):
a working group and what interesting turn that is a
working group to decide what they're going to do over
the next few months and how they're going to get
get players involved. And I have to think that the
best thing to get netball on the road again would
be to have Jenny Wider assigned.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Thank you, Grant. So are you happy though that Dame
Nolean's back at the Helm. I mean it feels like
a halfway house of a resolution, given that she's not
going to be coaching a netball game again until who knows,
at some point next year.

Speaker 15 (19:43):
Yeah. Well, the fact that I mean about the one
thing that she said which I agree with with Genny Wiley,
was that with only a three day turnaround, and it's
because they could have had a sort of this out,
you know, weeks ago, then there wouldn't have been a
problem with only having a three day turnaround, but having
a three day turnaround to get Nolling back for the

(20:06):
norm tour, and you know, I mean even even sort
of you know, it'll be a disaster sort of trying
to say, well, Noline come in today and coach the
team for the third Test. So but the reason of
that there is a problem with a three day turnaround
of that is because they dispersonally appeared to do nothing

(20:29):
and certainly told us nothing for the last few weeks.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's right, Grant, nice to hear from you this afternoon.
Oh eight hundred eighty nine ninety two for a text message.
We've got one line free with Grant dropping off. Let's
go to Shari afternoon. Shari Hi, I.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Heard nothing from that, absolutely, And can I just say
this that if it had not been for the Nettle
community and the fans out there, she wouldn't have been
It was our step we were pushing for her and
probably the minister. And that's the honesty behind us that
here and the chair and the whole board need to
take a long look in the mirror and say to themselves,

(21:07):
are we here for the sport? Are we here for
the good of this sport? Because nothing good came out
of this with them. It's been secrecy. She came on,
someone's written something for her to say today and I
just can't believe that she's not even on that end
of view tour?

Speaker 16 (21:24):
Is that not what the.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Whole thing is?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
The process for next year with the Commonwealth Games, with
her going there, if she's reinstated, she's reinstated as of
as of the tour.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Say the tour, well, that's right, they've got five tests
in yeah, Shari, they've got five tests in the lead
up to the Commonwealth Games next year that she won't
be there for you know, against ye in Glasgow and
these in the venues where the Commonwealth Games is going
to be held next year.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
Yeah, and didn't Gail prior to say that this whole
end of view tour was because of them preparing for
that as well. They wanted to be there to see
where they're going to be. Everything was in preparation for this.
So why is she not on that end of view tour?
Who knows they could be healing with all of that
tour as well, going away with that team of bonding.

(22:11):
You know, I just don't understand it, and I don't
understand why they think it's business as usual. Let's just
get on with it. It's not too many people's reputations
were ruined because of netball New Zealand out there and
they need to take some responsibility. And if that's us
going forward, I don't see any way that Netble's going
to get any better, not at all.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Appreciate the coltary. Nice to hear from you this afternoon.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two
for a text message, Pete, hang on there. We will
come to you after the break. And there are plenty
of text messages, but that way that I want to
get to after the break as well. This has been
an issue that has ignited the text line this afternoon
and on eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine

(22:53):
two for a text message. We do have one line
free if you want to react to that from Jinny Wiley,
the Chief executive of Netball New Zealand on the three
day eight three day turnaround thing. It's not like she's
a new face. You think of the Premier League your
second coach on a Monday, and have a new coach
for a game on a Thursday or Friday. It's not

(23:14):
like you're having to re introduce a new face into
the environment. They know who Dame Nolean told her is
I don't get that. It's coming up half past twelve
on News Dogs Pete hang on there, back with you
after this.

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Speaker 3 (23:34):
We are talking the reinstatement of Dame Nolean toldal As
silver Fern's coach. Sort of reinstatement. She has to wait
till next year, but she does have her job back. Afternoon, Pete,
thanks for hanging on here again.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
You're regarding No, she should be back in the job now,
decisions been made. No more this wokeness previously that came on.

Speaker 17 (23:55):
As you started.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
She's part of the problem. She's woke for us. I'm
con soon Mark much has made made the decision. I
think so she should be back in there. Bulls and
horns and the young these players that I don't like
who we're coaching, maybe they should be put out of
the team. Get some players that were more than wearing
the all black shirt on. If they don't like the coach,

(24:17):
omitted the coaches the coach and they don't like it,
I think some of the players should be moved on
and gets someone is willing to take the coach's advice
or what there are ways of coaching.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Is Yeah, I don't know how we've got to the
point where players and look, we don't know the nature
of these complaints, which is one of the frustrating things, Pete,
But that the players have this voice. Surely the ultimate
final say is with the coach for any high performance
team one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
You know the players don't There's too much I shouldn't
say that there's too much of this wopeness. How the
kids have been brought up today. You know in Paris
angst and the coach is the coach. You don't know
where they way of coaching, Well, move on, find another
team where you might like the coach. It's not so
soft on you. But the coach is the coach. She
makes the calls, and if you don't like the calls,

(25:03):
go and join another team. And it's quite as I
said before, in more more than other ladies were quite
wanting to wear that shirt and they respect the coach
and they're not in the co and the coach watch
how she's what he's gone through his disgusting bars on
the scene.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Pete, thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty. We do have one line three afternoon, John,
how are you.

Speaker 17 (25:23):
Yeah, afternoon? I'd just like to have my say on it.
I think that the whole thing relies or rests fairly
with the CEO. After the last World Cup netball I
think finished New Zealand netball I think finished fourth, sorry,
the fourth of the last World Cup and third at

(25:46):
the last Commonwealth Games, and there was no inquiry into
the team's contribution or any discrepancy that there might be
between the team. And we move on to twenty twenty
five when a handful of players, which seemingly and I'm
only just going on what I've heard the same, they

(26:07):
have a bit of a say about the process and
the CEO buckles down. Then the CEO, in an announcement
this morning which I agree with everyone means nothing, has
completely set day Noline up to fail by giving saying
that they shall have the team back, but just ten
minutes before they help on the plane to go back

(26:28):
to the Commonwealth Games. It's appalling. And the Commonwealth Games
are being held or this tour is being held at
the same venue. From what I understand is the Commonwealth
Games is surely, surely she should be on that plane
going to the Northern Tour. It's part of the coaching team.
If not the coaching team. I think she's been set

(26:49):
up to fail.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't get and you're right, John, I think this
is important for her to be on this too. And
games are going to be at a premium next year.
She's not going to have a lot of time coaching
this team ahead of the mid year Commonwealth Games. Surely
three days, whatever it is, get her and Cam, get
then around the table and hatch these issues out before
you jump on the plane to the northern hemisphere.

Speaker 18 (27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (27:12):
I agree that the announcement, the announcement and the acceptance
of it by netball at the high level is just
you know, out of all of this, I see one
organization that would be paved off the way this has gone,
and that would be sky Sport, Because about two or
three weeks before all this debarkle came out, they agreed

(27:34):
to an agreement with Netpork. I bet they were wishing
that they'd put it off to.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Now, John, thank you for your call this afternoon, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine, so for
a text message afternoon, Calvin.

Speaker 13 (27:46):
Yeah, very good afternoon to you. Elliott. Yet, right from
day one, I thought to myself that a lot of
young people nowadays don't like being told what to do
and what not to do. So I thought that could
have been the problem or the only alternative I thought,
which I'm sure is not the case with Dame Nolene,
who herself and the woman's age, what she is at

(28:11):
the moment, what happens to women, But I'm sure that's
not the case. But anyway, I can't understand why Dame
Nolen hasn't been put in this coach, you know, because
for the northern tour to Glasgow, and that's twenty days
or three weeks away, plenty of time. I can't see
why why she hasn't been Rion say to this coach,

(28:33):
you know almost immediately.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, that's right. She lives in Hamilton, lives in Whiteatto,
as far as I'm still aware, Calvin, they're playing in
Hamilton at four o'clock this afternoon. She probably could have
taken over this afternoon and got back into the role.
A lot of text messages here. Jenny Wiley did not
at any time in the interview support the return of

(28:56):
Dame no Lean. I fear that Dame Nolen has been
treated appallingly and some players still seem to hold too
much way. Surely says if our Dame Nolean is the coach,
then she should be back now now time for the
chair and ceo to go. And another one says, no,
it's not the right solution. My opinion, Jimmy Wiley should
be sacked. The whole saga is disgusting and too much secrecy.

(29:17):
I know my colleague Nathan Limm has spoken to Matt
Winney this morning and asked whether Jimmy Wider is going
to has the support of Netballe New Zealand's board. It
sounds like she still does. But yeah, Paula with says, Hi,
how amazing that Ms Whydy can give an interview and
not say anything, just a lot of flannel and Lorraine
great she's back. What about the contract? Isn't it meant

(29:39):
to be renewed or not in genuary? It's an interesting
point the right, I'll have the double chair. I think
she's through to the Comwalth Games, so I'm going to
double check on that for you. Let's go to Keen afternoon, Ken.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Good afternoon. Look, I think the whole thing's been fiasco.
What she needs to be held account accountable for as
well the CEO, I mean, and her board is why
it took two months and what and included in that
two months was a ten hour meeting. I mean, you know,

(30:09):
with great respect to the sport, it's not the United Nations.
They need to be more decisive because the one thing
that can affect Team Barraw is in decisiveness. They get
confidence from decisive action and knowing that you know they've
got a good organization, a strong organization behind them. To

(30:31):
be honest with you, that bore New Zealand disappearing this week. Yeah,
that's my opinion, and I'm an netball fan, but I
really feel for Dan Noline and the earlier callers said.
The way it's been structured now is she's really been
set up to sail. It's just not there.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
So you think she should be back in the job
as of today or for at least in Northern Tiloken, at.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Least in northern Northern Tour. I think today's probably at Littleston.
But yeah, but a three day turnaround that she should
be definitely installed for that.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yes, nice to talk to you this afternoon. Ken a
lot of textan on nine to nine, so I'm going
to try and catch up with them. An interesting point here,
it's not signed, but I'm going to read it out.
Neble and New Zealand have done the right thing by
standing down total as she was not accepting the new
culture rules of professional sport introduced into the Olivia Podmore case,
all professional sports bodies have to take on these new

(31:27):
rules around player safety and well being not just Netball
unfortunately told her it is also on the board. At
the time, it was acknowledged that this could prove a
difficult situation. Coaches should not also be on the Netball
New Zealand board. As a result, Netble in New Zealand,
under challenging circumstances, have been very professional in dealing with
Nolean's attitude which is old hat. Now that's an interesting
opinion which goes against the grain of what we are

(31:50):
getting this afternoon. Finn with this, Jenny Widy needs to
go and get Nolean and straight away chasing with us
high alerct congratulations on being the New AB's coach for
the Northern tour. We don't want you to attend any
of the trainings or be involved in selecting the team,
but we will call you the coach. Another with us
not convincing. CEO very poorly managed to allow the situation
to blow out the way it did and now make

(32:12):
comments that it was always about getting time. It tells
me some very poor decisions and judgment by the chief
executive or other managers that are involved in the scenario
to allow it to blow out the way it did.
And also they didn't do a thorough investigation. If they
only spoke to seven players and not the wider group
as claimed and only back seems quite lamed. Their comments
were all a bit flaky to me. Nine two nine

(32:32):
two for a text message was trying to find one
that I did stand out. This is from Jordan Elliott.
Jinny is the absolute best interviewing for fifteen minutes, not
having said anything, so hard to listen, same as last
time with Pineyer. Zero transparency, painful cheers Jordan. We'll take
a brick bake here on news Talk zib There are

(32:53):
a lot more texts that might get to to round
out the hour here on news Talk zib there's eighteen
away from one. After the break, we're going to change
tack even so slightly and talk some cricket here on
news Talk Zibbig.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Shoes on and after field call.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Gj gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home Milder News Talk ZIBB.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
It is fifteen away from one on news Talk Ziba.
The text as still flooding in. I will get to
some more before we break for the news Sport and
we're they're at one o'clock on the Netball scenari Ago
but leads to our attention to crickets and the one
day series between New Zealand and England gets underway at
Bay Oval and just over an hour's time at least
where they're permitting. Joining us now is crick and for

(33:37):
cricket journalist Camp ponsenb Cam Good afternoon, Thanks for your time.

Speaker 17 (33:43):
He h.

Speaker 16 (33:43):
How are you going on?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm good? Thank you? Well, you're in Mount mong andui.
Are we going to get some cricket today? A full match? Potentially?

Speaker 19 (33:51):
Amazingly, we're going to get a full match of cricket.

Speaker 20 (33:53):
Well, according to the weather at the moment, it's bright
sunshine space to day. There's no rain forecast. But at
the same time I've been learning never to believe any
of the New Zealand weather forecasts. So I might be
lying to everyone, but at the moment I think we're
going to play.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Haven't exactly turned it on for you the last week
or so around the country. What did England learn from
that T twenty series.

Speaker 20 (34:16):
It's going to sound a bit tweet and rubbish, but
they basically have focused on probably more of a team
team bonding. Elliott in that over the last couple of years,
the White ball team has been so kind of mismashed.
There's been a load of ODII series played when Test
series have been happening as well, so kind of a
second stream squad went out to the West Indies last year.

Speaker 19 (34:36):
There was an ODII.

Speaker 20 (34:36):
Series against the Netherlands a few years ago when they
were also playing a Test match in Manchester.

Speaker 19 (34:42):
So basically Brendan.

Speaker 20 (34:43):
McCullum and Harry Brook got the squad together a few
days in advance. They went down to Queenstown, they played golf,
they had a few beers and the idea is basically
trying to create a stable, settled tea. So on the
pitch they learned pretty much nothing because they only played
about six year olds of cricket.

Speaker 19 (34:58):
But they are saying, and they said this ahead of time, that.

Speaker 20 (35:00):
The point of this trip is as much to kind
of gel together as a group and actually get a
bit of a settled eleven as much as it is
winning on.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
The pitch because England haven't been vets convincing it one
day international level under Britain mccallumis you'd have They.

Speaker 20 (35:17):
Well, it's amazing kind of without any nuance, you don't
need any caveats England have just been bad at ODII
cricket for a couple of years now.

Speaker 11 (35:24):
I think the.

Speaker 19 (35:25):
Stat is they've won eight of their last twenty three.

Speaker 20 (35:29):
So T twenty cricket they've actually be pretty good but
ODII cricket because again, like the squad's been subject to
so much change. They'd never read out their first eleven
until kind of this summer when Brook and McCollum took
over as a pair. They beat the West Indies at
the West Indies are pretty week and then South Africa.

Speaker 19 (35:46):
Turned them over. England are.

Speaker 20 (35:49):
They'll have to change today because Will Jackson's injured, so
probably we're expecting Sam Carnal come in. But they've gone
for this like hyper aggressive tactic of basically having seven
specialist batters and four specialist bowlers and making up the
last ten overs with.

Speaker 19 (36:03):
Basically just like whoever is available, and that kind of
of kicked.

Speaker 20 (36:07):
Him in the backside against Africa because Jacob Bethel and
Will Jackson bowling like this part time spin and South
Africa absolutely whacked it. So they're going to have to
change it a little bit for you guys. This afternoon'll
probably be a bit more Banns for the bowling lineup.

Speaker 18 (36:23):
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 19 (36:25):
They on paper they're good. They should be really good.

Speaker 20 (36:28):
They've got amazing players, but they've just really enjoyed losing
of late, so we'll see.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I know this is a different format, but how important
is this for some of these players like Joe Root,
Jeoff Ratcher. I don't think he's playing today some others
to get some game time ahead of the series.

Speaker 19 (36:45):
Yeah, we asked yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 20 (36:47):
We asked Joe Route this yesterday and I was ready
and rare to him to be like, it's all good preparation.
I just don't want to get the mind adjusted and
settled into into international cricket, and then unfortunately just went Nah.

Speaker 19 (36:59):
Doesn't help battle.

Speaker 20 (37:00):
Completely different format, different country, different teams. There's no translation
with how I'm going to do here of how things
are going to go in the.

Speaker 19 (37:08):
Ashes, which I think.

Speaker 20 (37:10):
I think that's an honest answer, because I don't think
he has anything to gain by saying it one way
or the other. It is partly the media's fault and
me is one of them out here that every time
we speak to England player, realistically, we are all a
bit obsessed with the Ashes at the moment. So we're
asking them questions about Australia and they're giving us answers about
New Zealand. But yeah, there's no way, there's no way

(37:32):
if Joe Root and Harry Brooks scores some runs that
can bear bad thing for first a month's.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Time And Cameron give us the English perspective on New Zealand.
What are you expecting from the black Caps over this
one day series.

Speaker 20 (37:45):
Well, it's a bit of a mystery because that you
guys haven't played since the Champions Trophy about six months ago.
And to be honest, I've I've been having a bit
of a crash course in kind of New Zealand cricket. While
so I've been over here, I've been learning all about
how October is not the traditional cricket season, and that
is well it's spring basically and it keeps raining for
that reason, and the kind of sparsity of cricket over
the summer there's no more. There's no international home cricket

(38:08):
in January or February here this year in parts of
the World Cup, and that's the second year in a
row on pay for you guys, Like it's one of
those weird ones. I think everyone kind of bullies or
things they can bully, using them a little bit, and
then they always end up in an ICC final and
then they beat England and England museums like really historic
matches in the recent past. So I'm expected one team

(38:29):
is going to win too. One that is that set
on the fence enough.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I think that's good. I think that's good. Camera, appreciate
your time and look, we'll catch up, I'm sure again sooner.
Enjoy the cricket the stafter the camera and pons from
crick and Foe and you can catch them on at
cameraon pontibly around the trips as well first balls at two.
Roll Walser, the Black keeps coach, is going to join
us next hour as well as we talk a bit
more cricket ahead of the one day series that was

(38:55):
the England perspective. We'll take a break, come back wrap
up the hour. Few more ticks that I want to
get to before we wrap things up at for the
New Sport and with it at one. It's coming up
nine away from.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Once analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Weekend Sport Call eighty us talk zby.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
We are rapidly approaching the New Sports and with at
one o'clock Tony with this on nine two nine two.
Now that's all sorted. When can we hear from Dame
nol Lean Tony. My information is that she is going
to front media at some point this week. Couldn't give
you a date, but she was unavailable for us today, unfortunately,
would have been great to get both sides of the story.

(39:38):
Hamish with this high Alliott, you want to waste of
it until you talk to Jimmy Wiley. A bunch of
cliche one line has joined together to make a sentence
told her last six months with the players getting more safe,
she wants them fitter, but some of them don't like it.
That's always been Dame Noling Podo's thing is that the
fitness level ever since she I think she went when
she was with the Magic, the way kind of Bay
of plenty magic. She she instilled that into them and

(39:59):
she took it across the Tasman to the Sunshine Coast,
Lightning and the silver Fins. This is there been players
that have missed out on opportunities because of this, because
of her fitness standards. Yet her results speak for itself.
Now the World Cup in twenty three. They obviously finished
fourth there, but she won in twenty nineteen. You've got
to back the results at that point. Now the text

(40:23):
on nine two nine two Alli, Yet nothing's been said.
Will Nolin retained the same assistant coaches Chris. My understanding
is yes, but we'll watch the space on that front.
I guess that's one for Dame Nolean to answer. Another
one with Rick says Knickbourne, New Zealand are guilty of
micro managing Dame Nolean and the silver fans. The saga
has achieved mistrust and amplified how dysfunctional the woke New

(40:46):
Zealand borders. The board chair and CEO should resign. Afternoon, Elli,
get get rid of them all the boards Nolan told
her are bringing you blood. Watch the space that is
from Flora and hot good afternoon. If nickbol New Zealand
thinks this miss is going to disappear with their announcement,
they are wrong, not until there are some answers or

(41:08):
someone is held to account. Another one says, did they
get those questions in advance? I can tell you that
they didn't, but I think we got some fairly standard
responses that may have you some similar words throughout some
of the questions that I asked this afternoon, pretty frustrating News,

(41:31):
Sport and weather. Next on News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Which is the only place to discuss the biggest sports
issues on and after field. It's all on we join
sport on your home resport News Talks MB were going on.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, welcome back in coming up seven after one on
news Talk see. We just want to close the loop
before we get into things. I got w Liam Napier
standing by to talk boxing. He was at the O
two arena as Joseph Parker lost TKO to Farigo Wardley.
He's going to join the program in a moment or two.
Rob Walter ahead of first ball in the one day

(42:08):
series at two o'clock as well, and James mcconey will
join us before the hour is happened. As I say,
a lot of text on nine two nine two before
we finish up on the netball. Peter with this, mcausden
jury was put in with only a few days notice
and she had no pre established platform, So the argument
against putting Noeline in with three days notice is a nonsense.

(42:29):
Good point, Paul, Peter, rob So with this under no
Lean's coaching, silver Fans won bronze medal at the twenty
twenty two Birmingham Commonwealth Games and at twenty twenty three
Netbow World Cup the Silver Fans finished fourth there wast
ever in history. I thought she would have been replaced them.
Good listening, she is Sue Nathan see his total guests
work from the callers. The reality is we have no

(42:50):
idea what's happened. Well, you're right, and I thought this
would have been the opportunity to at least outline that
from netball in New Zealand, but they didn't. Last text
on the matter. This is from jan High, my first
time on here. I wonder if some players will sit
down after the Northern tour with Knoles coming back, which
is why they won't bring you in now, because if

(43:11):
Gils decide not to play now we will know exactly
who's been at the forefront of this. Such a shame.
Nols will be going into the combath Games not having
coached any previous tests following this absolute debarkle. If we
have more time, might get to a few more a
bit later on, but it is ignited. The text line
on nine to nine two this afternoon. We'll keep you
up to that with World A Game two of the

(43:33):
World Series. Paul Cole is also in action in the
US Open squash. I think it's a semi finals stage.
We'll keep across that for you as well until we
wrap up at three here on news talk zbe where
it is eight after one. Let's go to the O
two Arena in London. These the stunning scenes this morning, heavy.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Way platters away sers Savage.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
U Beta and that's the opportunity challenging from the upscute
of Heavyweight Championship.

Speaker 19 (44:27):
Of the.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
That was on design this morning. Joseph Parker beat him
this morning and stunning scenes at the OTO Arena in
London against Farbio Wardley. This is obviously a vital fight
for Parker and Wardley of course says to whether who
was going to get that spot for the world title
fight against Alexander Usik and Joseph Parker loses in the

(44:52):
eleventh round via t k Oh. Joining us now from
the go to arena in London is Liam Napier, who
was on the ground. Liam.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Thanks for your time afternoon, Elliott.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Were you stunned by that result?

Speaker 21 (45:07):
Well, it's heavyweight boxing. Anything's possible, but there was certainly
an upset. Joe Parker was a hot favorite with the bookies,
and on paper he had all the experience and he
was widely considered to be the superior skilled boxer. But
everyone also knew that Fabia Wadley has equalizing power, devastating

(45:28):
right hands, and that's ultimately how he got the job done.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It felt like Parker and looking at the scoring, at
least they were doing un design with the commentator, is
that Parker was ahead of the game to that point,
at least on points late in the fight.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
Was that right?

Speaker 22 (45:43):
That's all right?

Speaker 21 (45:44):
Yes, I think he was well up on all cards,
probably four, maybe even five rounds with the judges.

Speaker 18 (45:54):
But look, it was a very back and forth contest.

Speaker 21 (45:57):
Joe came out with a flurry in the first round,
but then he was stunned in the second and actually
lost his mouth guard which allowed him time to recover.
Then I think he dominated largely the middle rounds and
then Fabio Wadley Justice he did in his last fight
against Australian Justice Hooney rallied late, landed those devastating punches
and Joe was stopped. I think it was one minute's

(46:21):
fifty odd seconds into the penultimate round.

Speaker 11 (46:23):
Too.

Speaker 21 (46:25):
Yeah, rob him, well, not rob him to take away
that elusive crack at the undisputed heavyweight king Alexander Usik.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Were you surprised by the decision to wave off the fight,
given Parker was ahead on points at that point and
there was no eight count, it was basically fights done.

Speaker 18 (46:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (46:44):
Look, I think it wasn't early stoppage. I don't think
there's any disputing that, but.

Speaker 18 (46:49):
Was on the ropes. He was taking a lot of
punishment and he wasn't firing a lot back.

Speaker 21 (46:54):
I think one of the issues, one of the question
marks is Wadley's last little flurry. Probably his last three
punches were blocked, they didn't actually connect. Maybe in hindsight,
Parker could have should have taken a knee that would
have allowed him time to recover. And he was a
hit on all the cards, so he still could have
won the fights. But I think when you look around

(47:17):
the world that there is a bit of an outcry
from a lot of noted but boxing pundits and certainly
New Zealand fans who felt that stoppage was too early.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Have you spoken to the Parker camp, what's their reaction
to the defeat.

Speaker 21 (47:31):
Yeah, I've just emerged from the post fight press conferences
and lot Parker's obviously very disappointed with the result. He
was he credited Fabia Wadley with the victory and committed
him on that, but he said he felt fine that
he wanted to carry on at the time of the stoppage.
So I guess you could say he was disappointed or

(47:53):
begrudging of the way the fight finished, but I guess
it was taken out of his hands.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
So we're too now for Joseph Parker. Do you think
Liam that was a shots at the undisputed heavy wet
World Champampionship about against Alexanders. So where does Joseph Parker
go now?

Speaker 21 (48:12):
Look, it is a devastating blow outlet because Parker, over
the course of since twenty twenty two has last lost
to Joe Joyce, has gone on a six fight wind streak.
He's beaten some of the most vaunted avoided heavyweights to put.

Speaker 18 (48:27):
Himself right in the queue for that shot.

Speaker 21 (48:31):
At USIK, he was undeniably the second best heavyweight on
the planet in terms of his status at least, and
now he really does go back to the pack, and
it is a very congested pack.

Speaker 18 (48:42):
He has one more fight on his contract with Frank
Warren and Queensburry Promotions and Parker at the press, Currant said,
he still has a hunger and heart and desire.

Speaker 21 (48:54):
To carry on, but he's been in a lot of wars,
and he's thirty three years old, and while he's probably
in the prime of his career, he also has his
faculties and everything to consider.

Speaker 18 (49:06):
He's got five kids and a wife.

Speaker 21 (49:08):
So I think he'll have one more fight and depending
on that, how that goes will very much determine his future.
But it is hard to see him, you know, going
back and trying to go on another run to get
a second crack at another world title shot.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Will we see what's he going to do? I mean,
what's the quality of fighter he's going to have to
fight in that next fight to put himself back up there?
Can he do it on one fighter line? Or is
it back to the bottom of the pack for Joseph Parker.

Speaker 21 (49:37):
Potentially, I don't think he goes back to the bottom
of the packwayny stretch, but it is a big setback.

Speaker 18 (49:43):
Look, there's a number of desirable fights out there he.

Speaker 21 (49:48):
From a rematch perspective, there's marketable fights potentially against guys
like Joshua, Dillian White, a number of those British fighters,
Derek Tasaura, he's fought twice before, and that was mentioned
of a potential rematch with Waterlely at some point. I
think it was an amazing fight, back and forth, brilliant,

(50:09):
absorbing contest. I think people would love to see it again.
But who knows what happens between Wadley and Usik. So
for now, Joe, I guess we'll take time to recover
and take stock and we will see him again, but
it'll probably take him some time to get over this
first and foremost, and it is a major, major setback
for his career.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
And will we get that Wardley fight after all?

Speaker 18 (50:33):
I think we will. Yes, there's no one else really.

Speaker 21 (50:37):
That's Usik could fight, and if he doesn't, then he
will have to vacate the WBO title. Wardley will probably
be elevated straight to champion. Joe was that the interim champion,
so he's lost that status. But I think now particularly
Wardley's a very exciting fighter and he's someone that people
want to see, and I think that fights could easily

(51:00):
be put at a stadium like Wembley Usiks, he's fought
in the UK number of times. In many ways, it's
a much easier fight to market than a park of
the Usak fight. And Usik has come out and said
that he wants to fight on for another couple of years,
that he wants to remain undisputed.

Speaker 18 (51:17):
So if he's a man of his words, he will
fight Wardley.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Well, it's gonna be fascinated to see what happens with
both of those fighters. Legham. Napier thanks so much for
joining us the early hours of the morning in London.
Save travels. We'll see you in Chicago in a few days.

Speaker 18 (51:32):
Well in the cheers, Elliott.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Thank you very much, sir Liam Napier joining us on
the program this afternoon. He has covered at for the
New Zealand Herald as well, and you can view as
match report from the Two Arena or the fight report
i should say from the Two Arena in London, trans
for you to have your say. If you watch the
fight this morning, maybe you've seen the highlights. Everyone it
seems up in arms around the intervention from the referee

(51:58):
in the eleventh round. Just looking at some of the
responses from people that cover boxing on a regular basis,
Dan Rafael watching the replan. This stoppage is even worse
than I thought in Parker wardly terrible, says Dan RAPHAELI
Wicks for espn Ariohbani. I'm livid. WTF. Fantastic fight, but
awful stoppage.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Run it back. That is not right.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Did Joseph Parker get dutted this morning? And we're too
now for him? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine
two niney two for a text message, Brian says this
on nine two nine two. Great pure boxing today. Parker
was impressive, but the farbio hook speed got him in
the end. Could have gone either way. Thanks Brian. Oh

(52:40):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for
a text message if you want to get in touch
with the the program. It seems like there will be
a bit of debate about that stoppage. I don't know
that they've got it right. Look like Parker was as
I say, head on points to that point. And where
does Joseph Parker go to now in his career? That

(53:00):
another loss? As Liam mentioned thees you know thirty three,
which isn't necessarily old when you consider some of the
boxes that have been around the traps, but he's had
a few losses to this point. Can he reinvent himself again?
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty nine two for a
text message, afternoon, Tony, how are you?

Speaker 17 (53:18):
I'm very well?

Speaker 22 (53:19):
Thank Yeah.

Speaker 23 (53:20):
I had a look at the fight and I think,
in all honest to the fight should have been stopped.
And the reason I say that is because Parker was
not returning any punches. He would just continuously be being
and the dealers with referees today especially, they don't want
to see somebody with a brain injury or really badly hurt.
And I think that was the right decision. But I'll
tell you something that Usik will be jumping for joy

(53:43):
to fight that guy, and that gentleman wart Yardley has
got no chance in hell of beating music. He's not
as skilled. He will he'll give it a shot and
he'll be throwing haymakers, but Usic is far too classy
and he's got no show of winning against someone of

(54:04):
the skill level of Music.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
There was a moment that fight, Tony, where I thought
Parker was about to knock out wardly about the ninth rounder.
You had a flurry of punches, but he couldn't just
land the knockout. Belond that's probably been there, say. The
issue for Parker in his career is getting those knockouts.

Speaker 23 (54:20):
Yeah, I've always I've always thought when I watched park
and I followed the righteous career.

Speaker 12 (54:25):
To me, he's never really had.

Speaker 23 (54:27):
The he's a great salesman and he's not a great
cloth I don't. To me, he doesn't really have that
that really tice and killer instinct, and I don't think
he'll ever have it, and it's unfortunate, whereas this guy does.
But the problem he's got is Yusic is too skilled.
He won't be able to hit him. It may go
the distance, but us will beat him on points, and

(54:48):
Usic will be quite happy to fight him with no
problem at all.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Thank you very much, Tony Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine two nine two for a text message
one line free on the boxing Dan, Good afternoon.

Speaker 17 (54:59):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
How are you today?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I'm great, yourself very good.

Speaker 24 (55:04):
Now I'm going to steer the pot and I'm going
to say I'm glad that Parker lost, because he seems
very mouthy and according to Parker, he was going to
teach this guy a lesson. Well, all I could say is, well, Joseph.

Speaker 17 (55:24):
How did that go for you?

Speaker 24 (55:26):
And really, he hasn't got the skill to be fighting
in that realm and he should give up. Why he's ahead,
you reckon.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
That's the end of him, Dan, for his career. I
think if I was.

Speaker 24 (55:43):
Joseph Parker, I would say, well, I'm not going to
get any further.

Speaker 17 (55:48):
I'm a good fighter, but I'm not.

Speaker 24 (55:50):
Good enough to take the next level and get on
and do something else.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Dan, appreciate it. Thank you very much for your call
this afternoon. Yeah, Parker, I mean, he's never struck me
as the guy overly comfortable of the show. Birding is
probably not the right word, but the trash talk pre fight,
he's always felt very uncomfortable. And when he does throw
something out, you sit up and listen because he clearly
means it, clearly does have some belief behind it, because

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he's never has been the guy that throws around the
trash talk that we've so commonly associated with boxing, you know,
through the likes of you know, through the years, it
hasn't felt like his game. But one line three, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two for a
text message Lyle.

Speaker 12 (56:38):
You're God when watching boxing since the Thriller in Manila,
to give you an idea of the age. That's things.
Unlike a couple of corners said back earlier, it was
pulled up way too early. Watching it on replay, a
lot of them shots were just glancing blows. Having said that,
Parker didn't help himself because he wasn't throwing anything back,

(56:59):
I'd say that's why the referee had pulled it up.
Otherwise it was a fix on. But the biggest problem
park has now got right. The bloke that he fought.
He was losing every round in the previous fights against
one of our Australian fighters, Justin Hooney, and he knocked
him out in the last round. He got it done. Now,
Honey's several ranks below Parker. Right, the guy at Yardley,

(57:24):
he fought the fight of his life today in good
luck to him. Now he is where the real problem
is for our poor old Parker. Right, it's all about
markability and fighting. This guy had eighteen wins prior to
today's right and four he had no amateur career, and
four of them were against corporate fighters before he just

(57:45):
started to set on the real So unless this Yardley
comes out and knocks Oosik out, which I can't see
happening at all, I think it could be way too good.
You've got Parker, whether he got robbed today or not,
You lost to a bloke that there's only really fourteen
professional fights, I'd say, yeah, it's probably the end.

Speaker 22 (58:05):
Of the road, Joseph.

Speaker 12 (58:07):
As for the trash talk, he doesn't normally do it,
as you said. I did hear him being quite cocky
on the radio the other day, And with all due
respect to Parker, I think Parker and his camp may
have taken this floke way too lightly. Of course I'll
never admit to that, but I think that you're probably
looking past the fight. He should have had it done

(58:27):
in six rounds. He had him wobbling a couple of times,
but he just couldn't go on with it. And Parker, yeah,
he's a skillful fighter, but he just hasn't really got
the knockout power of a tour.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Well, look at you're right boxing trades and those KOs,
and it feels like Parker, as you say, is a
good technical fighter, but he's never been able to get
those ko's on a regular basis against the top fighters
in the world.

Speaker 12 (58:53):
He's had a lovely career the five kids. I think
he would have probably been a bit smarter than David
two with this money. They disrespected David, but it probably
a time maybe take the last fight for a payday
and then hang up the gloves. You know, unless, of course,
this Yardley guy goes on and isis USA curly, then
I might say, hey, park is not too bad. He

(59:14):
eventually went the distance, but there's a lot of real
submotion there so and Boxy being the murky world it is. Yeah,
it's unfortunate, but never mind.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Appreciate the call Isle in your analysis of that fight.
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two ninety
two for a text message, Joseph Parker, where does he
go to from here? After his defeat to Fabia Wardley
this morning? Hi, Steve, Hey doing He's good?

Speaker 16 (59:41):
After the Elliott Elliott absolutely devastated for Joseph Parker. I
thought it would stop way too earlier. I looked at
those last two punches. You know that that left hook
Parker rolled it, and then that's straight right. It glumped
off the side of his head after grunting off the
gloves and then the rest stopped at I'm thinking, what

(01:00:03):
are you doing? But look, here's the here's the problem
on the school board. There's nothing you can do about it.
And uh look that. Yeah, where does Parker go from here?
You know, like that was has ever really was and
it's going to be a long road if the even
is THEO. But in saying all of that, you know,

(01:00:27):
Woodley Man, he might just do it if if Usak
fights him and he goes on to do the same
thing that he just finished doing in his last two fights,
he could literally be the one to beat Usak, who
knows that the Lusik fights them, and it might be
one of those things he has to. He has toy now,

(01:00:48):
otherwise he'll be stripped of the WBO. So he devastated
for park of that.

Speaker 25 (01:00:54):
Oh hey, one last thing. The reason why he doesn't
trash talk is because of who he is is, because
of the status, like he's a chief that can sound
more and he's I think he's a bishop chi and
that's why he doesn't. It's because of his mother. You know,
he can't talk like a child. You just got too

(01:01:14):
much woman respects and prestige.

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
He has to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Represent you know, not absolutely, Steve. Nice to hear from
you this afternoon. I think it's a very very good point.
It's never sat comfortably, has it. And the trash talk
is well boxing has traded on for so many years.
That sells the pay per views, it gets the interest,
and we know that Joseph Parker hasn't been able to
get those big fights probably because he hasn't been able

(01:01:37):
to do the trash talk. And that's the kind of
person that he is. He's a lovely guy. Spoken to
him a couple of times throughout my broadcasting career and
covering various events. Lovely guy, you know, it's kind of
guy that you you wouldn't think would hurt a fly
doesn't talk like that. And then in the ring he's
obviously got the ability to fight very very well, but

(01:01:58):
the promotional side has never really sat that well with him.
Nice to talk to you this afternoon, Steve. A couple
of text in on two nine two. Stop it with
the excuses you're trying to make up a storyline he lost.
Roy says, Joe's too soon on and New Zealander to
do the trash talk. He wouldn't have liked that. I Reckon,
says Roy, who also says at least he wents eleven rounds.

(01:02:22):
I readA the Parker match. He was the book's favorite,
which means there was a beating scandal involved. Boxing has
never been an honest sport. We'll see it might be
his best hope now Parker to hitch his wagon, so
to speak to the Fabio Wardley train, and hope that
Wardley does well against Uzik. And therefore this morning's defeat
doesn't look that bad. But hard to see Usik being

(01:02:45):
too troubled unless Wardley does improve. Maybe he's got it
m to go with eleven rounds and then catch them
right at the very end. Perhaps that's the game plan
for the fight against Usik. Henry says this Parker has
no power in his past his best, he just can't
punch people out. And Jason with this one, is there

(01:03:06):
any young heavyweights coming up in the ranks in New Zealand?
Who is the next Joe Parker? Don't know. Not hearing
a lot of names coming through. I'm not sure if
there's anyone coming up through the ranks, because if they have,
they haven't been able to register so many results that
have taken the attention at least of casual observers like myself,

(01:03:29):
So I might have a few names to throt us
on nine two nine two that are up and coming
around the ranks. So it's twenty eight and a half
after one on news Talk ZEBB. We'll take you to
bay Oval. Shortly, we'll stand by and have a chat
with the coach of the black Caps, Rob Bolter. After
this on news talk ZEBB twenty nine after one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
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Gugnomes New Zealand's most trusted no will learn News Talk ZIBB.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Well, the black Cats are about twenty nine minutes away
from starting their one day International series against England and
as we discussed with Cameron Pont's the last hour for cricket.
Infoe not looking too bad at bay Oval at mart
mong Anuly. The coach of the black Caps is Rob Walter,
who joins us now on news Talk z B. Rob,
you'll be hoping for perhaps some more cricket than what

(01:04:18):
you got in the T twenty series. So what did
you get out of that series despite all the rain.

Speaker 26 (01:04:24):
Yeah, because that's part of the international scene, you sort
of get to move on pretty quickly, you know, when
all loose. So unfortunately we know sort of didn't get
to play as much keed as you would have hoped for,
but into a different format now, a couple of changes
in personnel, and I know the guys and use are
wearing to go so looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Is there anything you did take out of that series
as you move into the T twenty World Cup.

Speaker 26 (01:04:51):
I suppose you're always, you know, picking up little things,
whether that's affirmations on some of the stuff you've been
working on or highlighted areas that you that you want
to keep chipping away at, but nothing significant little bits.

Speaker 27 (01:05:04):
Of our game, do you know? I always evolving and
we've got.

Speaker 26 (01:05:08):
A couple of opportunities to sort of explore that. Albeit
there was a couple of runners.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
One day is now the focus so obviously, Rob, Yeah,
it's a format that has been squeezed. I guess in
the international schedules, as the black Caps coach, what importance
do you place on one day cricket?

Speaker 26 (01:05:27):
You know, any game for the black Caps is hugely important,
So any international you know holds us weight for sure.
You know, one day cricket is you know, part of
a sort of a cycle that builds up to a
one day We'll Cup in twenty twenty seven the latter
parts of the year, so you know, for us, it's
a format really that we've played very well and you know,

(01:05:49):
a Champions Trophy final not too long ago and some
success against Pakistan. So we certainly want to keep playing
good cricket obviously or ever evolving as a team, so
you know, to keep on that journey.

Speaker 27 (01:06:03):
But yeah, really to just to get back into, you know,
playing great cricket. It's a very good one outfit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Okay, Williamson coming back into the squad, what kind of
boost does he give your team?

Speaker 26 (01:06:14):
Oh, I mean it sort of goes without something really,
you know that he hears an icon really already that
is still playing and obviously great having back in the environment,
you know, beyond obviously the runs that he brings, his
experience and his leadership and yeah, just his sort of
overall presence in the team.

Speaker 27 (01:06:33):
So I'm looking forward to having back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Given the uncertainty about how often he plays now and
when is it important that I don't know how you
do this, but it's more on him, but make the
most of his presence and his time.

Speaker 28 (01:06:44):
With the team.

Speaker 26 (01:06:47):
Yeah, I mean there's no sort of need to really,
you know, make a big thing of it because he's
fully invested. So whenever he's he is around the group
obviously you know, we went to it as a group
to him Springs prior to the start of the t
twenties and you know, going just great out of his insight,
his clarity, you know, around purpose and obviously being a

(01:07:08):
leader for this team for so long.

Speaker 27 (01:07:10):
But he but you know, he sort of steps straight
back into it.

Speaker 26 (01:07:13):
You know, I don't have to speak to him about
what his responsibilities are because he already knows any cares
so deeply for the team that he you know that
he finds his way into into the conversations and into
the discussions because you know, just really that's that's who
he is as a human.

Speaker 27 (01:07:28):
So yeah, I mean it's wonderful having him in the
environment for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Do you look too much into the future about when
he's going to be available, when he might retire, or
do you try and live in the presence and just
go right, this is a series we're focusing on Kaine. See,
we don't need to worry about what's down the track
in six twelve months time.

Speaker 26 (01:07:45):
No, yeah, I don't think. You know, it's really sort
of doing exactly that, you know, being present for this series.
You know, our conversations are ongoing. Like I keep saying,
you know, there's no doubt in his you know, and
his keenness to play and his investment in the team.
So you know, we just keep building on that. But
when we just keep chatting to each other and take

(01:08:06):
a series at a time, what do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
You expect from England across this one day series? You know,
they've obviously had some success in the format, but maybe
fifty over wise they aren't as strong as they have
been previously. So so what do you expect from England
over these three games?

Speaker 26 (01:08:22):
I look there again, a very attacking one day unit,
you know they so you kind of know what you're
going to get from them. They I think they are
a very good one day outfit. I've got you know,
a lot of all rounders that give them great balance
in their team. So from that point of view, expecting
a really tough series and a tough arting and looking
forward to because you know, these are the type of

(01:08:44):
series that you know, really stretch you as a team
and going to give you good insight as to the
areas that you are doing well in certain the areas
that need to get evolved and improved on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
What's your mindset around the style of one day cricket?
Is there any changes that are needed from the black Caps?
Obviously a Champions Trophy final earlier as well? Is it
Are they on the right track with with now you
at the helm, you can see where they're going to
in the one day format of the game.

Speaker 26 (01:09:11):
I mean, yeah, as you said, I mean they're a
very successful one day outfit. So it's really not for
me to step in and try and change a huge
amount of, you know, of the way that we do
play because it has been successful. I think the game
sort of guides as to we might you know, want
to evolve because cricket is ever evolving, so you know,

(01:09:32):
but the book in the of the fundamentals and the
pillars of the team are there. So it's really just
resting on that, just encouraging the guys to continue to
be the best versions of themselves and we just sort
of keep pushing the needle a little bit as a
team and trying to see where that leaves us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Do you see the series has been effectively the start
of the preparations for the twenty twenty seven World Cup.

Speaker 26 (01:09:56):
I suppose yes or no in that you know, it
is a fairly experienced and settle group, so it's really
just a continution on But yes, it is the build
up and obviously the last fifty over competition was a
champions trophy sort of sort of neck if he's into
building for the next pinnacle event, which is at will Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Obviously a big diet of white bull cricket at the moment,
rob But how much you at the back of your
mind thinking about that that Test series against the West
and is coming up in December, late November early December.

Speaker 26 (01:10:27):
Yeah, it is very important to us, and obviously it
is part of the World Test Championship, the start of
the World Test Championship cycle, So for us it is
in the back of my mind. You know, there's obviously
a lot of sort of preparation and thinking that goes
into it, whiles still focusing on what's in front of
us right now, so you know, it's sort of a

(01:10:47):
secondary thought, but obviously of great importance.

Speaker 27 (01:10:51):
So you know, to around.

Speaker 26 (01:10:53):
Managing players making sure that it's already and fit and
firing for that series. But again not overlooking what's in
front of us at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Rob Walder with us a couple of fine questions, Rob,
if I can before we finish off, what you've been
the job for a few months now and head a
little bit of home cricket, what's been the thing you've
learned the most or the best thing you've learned over
the last few months and stacking on this job.

Speaker 26 (01:11:14):
Well, I suppose it's probably more an affirmation really of
you know, just the group and the way that the
group operates. So obviously being part of New Zealand cricket
in some respects in the provincial space, but then you know,
playing against the Black Apps whilst coaching South Africa, so
just prepping against the black Caps, but then being sort

(01:11:35):
of on the other side of the ropen part of
the group internally, it's just an affirmation of you know,
the tightness of the group, real willingness to grow and learn,
you know, a great connectedness together and a real nice
team unit. So yeah, it's been sort of everything I'd
expect it would be and really enjoying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
It and just hope that weather holds out for this.
This one day series has been the greatest of October weather.
What is this stuff far exactly?

Speaker 26 (01:12:05):
But I suppose you controller so just hoping for good
days as the summer progressive for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Sure, Rob Walter, will you the best luck on this
one day series and across the summer. Thanks for joining
us on News Talk ZIB this Sunday afternoon. Appreciate it. Yes,
Rob Walter joining us on News Talk zb the coach
of the black Caps who are in action from two
o'clock bay Ovl the Mount Mongernuie weathers looking pretty good.
I can tell you that the black Caps have won
the toss and will bowl first. First ball is at

(01:12:33):
two o'clock. We'll keep a close eye on that for you.
After two I can tell you as well. It was
the US Open Final that Paul Cole was and I
had a noted down as the semi final, but regardless,
unfortunately he has lost in three game straight games eleven nine, eleven, three,
eleven three to a sal who was playing at the moment.
So not to be for Paul Cole in the US

(01:12:53):
Open final unfortunately, and the La Dodgers one nill up
in the Game two of the World Series Baseball Top
of the second Toronto winning yesterday in game one. We
will take a break after this. James mcconey joins us
on News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You be the TMO. Have your say on eighty eighty
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Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Talks B sixteen away from two. On News TALKSB after two,
we'll take you into the Canterbury camp after the NPC
title when yesterday Alex drou fro out of the Phoenix
to join us as well. But as we do this
time on a Sunday afternoon, we welcome James mccony into
Weekend Sport Afternoon, James afternoon.

Speaker 22 (01:13:40):
Elliott ET.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Great movie, great movie, absolutely named after Elliott from Et incidentally,
which I think I've told you before in PC final yesterday.
How good was that?

Speaker 22 (01:13:57):
Unbelievable? Wait a second, wait a second, have you done
your full disclosure of where or from Elliott? Because yeah,
it was. It was a great occasion. Where are you
just play it out there right now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
I am from the Canterbury region that is the NPC
champions as of use today. There we go done.

Speaker 22 (01:14:13):
Yes, Yeah, it was nice and we witnessed the suffocation,
that's what it was. You know, Canterbury spwards and their
defense were impressive and actually the few times they threw
it through the ball wide at work, So you can't
fault it really in terms of winning finals. That region
know exactly what they're doing and they stuck to their knitting. Really,
even though it was a sunny day, they assessed the

(01:14:36):
conditions and that win. The Otago team should have made
more of it, but in the middle of the first half,
I think Otaga had thirty phases and didn't go anywhere
and that was pivotal because they couldn't amassed enough points
with that win. And even Thomas Umonger Jetson who gave
a beautiful interview at the end of the game to
Taylor Johnson on Sky whereas in tears, but basically giving

(01:15:00):
that exact analysis, which is they were just shut out
of the game at a critical.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Time they weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I just love the occasion though, the noise from the
Otago fans that had made their way up. It was
four o'clock, the weather played ball apart from a little
bit of wind as well. It just made you love
the NBC and what it stands for.

Speaker 22 (01:15:18):
Yeah, that it was just so nice wasn't it just
seeing that festival atmosphere that I mean, look, let's talk
about it now. The Larry the Lamb winning the mascot race.
There needs to be an investigation. Get Jeff Tuvy on
it because he was a rapid and I have it
on good authority that he's actually a spreader. I thought
it might be Tim Welton, you know New Zealand's fastest man,

(01:15:41):
underneath the Larry's mask, but it was it was a
sprinter who plays in the local under eighty five's competition.

Speaker 12 (01:15:48):
So look for this.

Speaker 22 (01:15:50):
We haven't heard the end of this and I'm hoping
that New Stalks at be that you've got your best
journalist on this, because that was If anyone saw that
mascot race, he won it in a cant just.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Another title for Canterbury. I've got Tony small On, who's
the Cannabi Rugby Union chief executive, so I'll put that
to him after two o'clock and see if we can
get to the bottom of that, because boy, he showed
some toe.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Maybe before we.

Speaker 22 (01:16:15):
Move on for rugby, I just wanted to say Dylan Pleager,
who is the young up and coming halfback. I felt
for him, because he sort of did all his core
roles really well for Otago, but he probably just didn't
run enough, and that is it's a bit like having
someone with that with the acceleration of Ree Walsh and
not seeing them really chance their arm. And it's tough
for him, but one of those games where he'll learn

(01:16:37):
a lot from that, so you know. And also Chafe
Hackey come on six foot four runs like the wind
kicks goals. He needs to work out whether he wants
to sit behind the All Blacks or make himself available
for Fiji or Tonga because he has Test match potential.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
He does it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
I like the high potential in the way that rugby's
going at the moment in Test rugby. Speaking of All
Blacks and Ireland in Chicago this time next week or
nine o'clock next week, what are you expecting out of that?
You've been to Chicago before, Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:17:06):
So I'm expecting you and I will have a beer,
maybe go to a comedy club or something Elliott. But
I also think that Ireland are hoping for an ambush,
but their plans have been thwarted somewhat. Big Lock. Joe
McCarthy is out. Mackanson the very versatile winger Australian is
out as well. Bundy k and Robbie hensch Or are doubtful.

(01:17:27):
So this is the issue for them is coming over
a sort of mid season really, so they all Blacks
in a really good position and I think the team
that played in Perth should get a start. Maybe Caleb
Clark comes back for finding a nukoup just because of that.
You know the constant aerial threat of Test rugby. But
how are you feeling about that as well? Elliott?

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
I think you're right. I think I'd roll out the
same team again. I don't see too many reasons to
change necessarily the obviously two Pivi's gone for the season
to Logs who's not there, So maybe there's a tweak
that needs to be made to the bench. Do you
look at a Dowry potentially off the bench or a
female to cover lock six? Be interesting? But I think
what they struck on there, especially at midfield, is what

(01:18:10):
I'd go for for this tester. I like the Barrett
too pie A combination. I think it's worthy of sticking
with for a few more tests.

Speaker 22 (01:18:17):
Yes, I think so too. And look at the all Blacks.
The issue for them is that they haven't mastered the
art of taking the referee out of the game, so
that they need to sort of I guess work on
that was a game management playing style. They've got Jason
Holland who's pretty much announced that he's leaving, So where
does that leave the players in terms of their attack strategy?

(01:18:39):
Does he still have control over that? So there are
a few intriguing points to look at. And of course
in Chicago in November it can be ice cold, and
what's called of than being cool?

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Elliott ice cold? To quote my man Andre three thousand
and finally, James International Rugby League, it has been hectic.
Tongusarm Ola today across the ditch is going to be
absolutely huge from what I'm.

Speaker 22 (01:19:03):
Hearingily out here in West Aukland, there are utes going
around with the biggest tongue and flags I've ever seen,
and I'll send you a photo if I can get
close to them. It's already reached fever pitch here. So
I hope that sun Corp is absolutely heaving. The International
Rugby League is alive and well, and you can tell
that league needs to keep on moving to new territories.

(01:19:25):
And I look at rugby and rugby so lucky. It's
got Argentina and it's got France. He's just a bit
of variety. So league really they need to go and say,
you've got Argentina, will take Brazil. You've got France. We're
going to Germany. You've got Japan, how about China. It's
time for that sport to expand because I love International League,
proper tests and long mate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Last, absolutely and just finally in time for a quick word.
The NBA has shown both sides of it this week,
the good, the bad, and perhaps the ugly as well.

Speaker 22 (01:19:57):
Yeah, it's right. The match fixing is a real talking point.
And when they show some highlights low lights of Terry
Rosie just passing the ball away, I think he's going
to struggle to avoid jail time. Chauncey Billups, he's the
coach of my favorite team, the Portland Trailblazers. He was
always making some questionable cause. His main thing though, is

(01:20:19):
that it's an illegal gambling sort of rigged poker matches
run by the mafia that he's been alluring in rich punters,
and so I mean, yeah, he's on massively thin ice,
but it does expose the fact that basketball is probably
one of the easier games to rig because I think
there's other players, Malik Beasley, these other names that will

(01:20:40):
probably emerge in the media again and will be under
the spotlight. But on the highlight side, go and have
a look at Victor Wembin Yama Wemby. He's grown and
then I think he's seven foot three. Now he's seven
foot four and he got nine blocks yesterday in a game,
and there's just an absolute freak. So there's some pretty
cool stuff happening on court as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Have you seen the movie The Sting James from the
nineteen seventies, Because the X ray glasses or the X
ray that they're using under the table the stud they
just get someone fake drunk on gin and pretend they're
drunk while they're playing poker. That was what they did
back in the day.

Speaker 28 (01:21:15):
I know.

Speaker 22 (01:21:15):
Now there's there's all this technology and it's a bit.
It's pretty shameful stuff, isn't it Like, And anyone who
cheats like that, and any match fixing is just abhurrent,
and especially if you've got if you're painting on it, Elliott,
it could be very frustrating. But they were and they
had a short term gain and now they're feeling the pain.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
They are indeed, James mcconey, appreciate your time. Look forward
to seeing you in Chicago next week.

Speaker 22 (01:21:42):
Cheers Elliott. I'll shout you b a mate, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Hold you to that. James mccony, thank you very much
for your time this afternoon, and I'm sure all the
touch based Piney from Chicago next weekend. Here on news
Talk zeb Rapidly approaching two o'clock, we'll come back wrap
up the hour after this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic field
weekend Sport news Talk Zen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
It is coming up four away from two on News
Talk zebb Ash on the boxing Joseph Parker high alligant.
Devastated for Joe Parker. I only read the live updates
around by rounds. I had to know if it stopped
to early, probably bookies were involved. Jayoppetize one to keep
an eye on. He is a different white division, but
boy does v gumption. He's not a sarm and is
not ruled out moving to heavyweight. Undefeated, knockout artist and

(01:22:29):
what a warrior. Cheers Ash. Nice to hear from you
this afternoon. Another one says to all those who say
is no good, can't punch et cetera. Can I just
say get in the ring and do better. Had he won,
those same people would have said he is the best
thing since slice bread. After two o'clock on news Talk ZEBB,
we dig into the NPC final. Tony Smell, the chief
executive of Canterbury Rugby, joins us. We also check in

(01:22:52):
with the Phoenix as well, and Corey Peter's New Zealand
Paraskia on the program as well. But your news, sport
and weather coming up very shortly on News Talk zeb.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Talks on what we're going back into the last hour
of weekend sports for Sunday afternoon on your Labor Day
long weekend Delegate Smith, Andy McDonald, Jason Pine back next weekend,
enjoying a well deserved long weekends off already a breakthrough
in the cricket black Cats getting one first ball. That's

(01:23:34):
how unfolded curts our friends on the ACC Jamie Smith,
Hi lo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Stop seem out of Jamie Smith.

Speaker 29 (01:23:46):
Straight between bat and pad and rocks the middle sou back.
What a ginger shot from Jamie Smith and New Zealand
strike ball one. Indeed they did ball one. Black Caps
get the Wickeds. Matt Henry takes out Jamie Smith. England
now three for one in one point one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Overs down route and duckets at the crease for all
the black Cats. So keep an eye on that for
you over at the next hour. Coming up this out
on the program, ann A b CEO. Tony Smail joins
us after the NPC victory yesterday, fairwelling a few people.
Tom Christy, their captain is leaving, Their coach, Marty Burke

(01:24:30):
is leaving. Their stadium is also leaving. I think that's
the one they're least sad about. Tony Smile joins the
program in a few moments time to reflect on yesterday's
NPC final. Alex through for the Phoenix Skipper on the
way as well they play They play the Brisbane Raw
from three this afternoon. We'll catch up with him as
they prepare for their home season start. Only won the

(01:24:54):
one home game last year, so what do they need
to improve? And we'll also catch up with Corey Peters
New Zealand sit skip on the program as the countdown
to the Paralympics Milan Cortina continue and Michael Burg is
out of the New Zealand. Herold's written a great piece
that the only one of the only high school All

(01:25:15):
blacks Burg will join us to explain all. We can
read this piece on the Insied Herald as well. But
as we always do this time on a Saturday and
Sunday after two o'clock, we get the rocky music going,
Yes we do. In Casabiston at eight after two to

(01:25:37):
the Premier League first and Sunderland shocked Chelsea at home.
Honey engineers something here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Brian Robick rolls it across towby strike. Honey might just
have warning for Sunderland.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Shensteen Telby with his first Sunderland girl.

Speaker 30 (01:25:57):
On a season in which they've surprised so many, they
might just be.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Doing it again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
The Lake goal handing him at two one, where they
now move up to second on the Premier League table.
Brentford handing Liverpool their fourth straight league loss.

Speaker 31 (01:26:12):
Big moment for Brentford and Igor Chiago puts them three
one up against the champions and this could bear seven
or night for the Piasa Brentford for Liverpool it's won
at the moment of misery three to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
The final score to the A League. AUCKLANDFC gotta win
on the ledger well Wistern Sydney had given the ball
away again three in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
And Jessey Randall slots home the opening goal of Auckland
f C season. Randall writes his name in the history book.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
The goal was the defriends who has won nil over
Western Sydney. It's the rugby league. In the Rugby League
Ashes the first Test has been a romp for the
Kangaroos wash.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Shiva sucky to really put the dagger to a great
hosts your res loss England a big trust.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
By their versus rivals twenty six sixth of the final
score and that one it did end up being on
Sky Sport as well. They bought the rights very very late,
and I mentioned yesterday I was on in our old
dot com. Sky apparently did a deal late yesterday so
it was on there and I think the rest of
the series will be as well as convincing. We're the
Wallabies against Japan.

Speaker 31 (01:27:33):
Though unsurprising reminder from the referee to Japan about their
disciplined turns.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Wanted to try and get his hands on that.

Speaker 20 (01:27:40):
But as they competed at the line out, there had
nowhere on the ground to Scotland amension, and there is
that ementsion, and there is the score.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
It's tritime.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Australia wasn't overly impressive, was it? Nineteen fifteen? They won
in Tokyo and the Toronto Blue Jay stunned the Dodgers
to take a one new lead in Baseball's World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
All the shix to t great sofields go.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Churches, indeed blowing open with a benchhip branch slab analyzing
every view from every angle in the sporting world weekends
for its talk.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
It's one all in the middle of the fourth in
Game two. Incidentally, England have lost another one. In the cricket.
They are now five for two, having lost both of
their openers in quick succession. Ducket has gone in fact,
make that three. Joe Root's gone for two off the
bowlinger Zach Folks, who has two for the over. England

(01:28:46):
five for three in Mount Monganui after two over's disastrous
start for the tourists to this one day series. Will
keep an eye on that. They might even lose a
few more. We will see let's take it though to
the scenes yesterday afternoon at Apollo Project Stadium in Christchurch,

(01:29:06):
and there's Todd Kristin to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
The Northern stance, Apollo Chaplet Channbury into their tenure and
Apollo Project Stadium as champion.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Indeed they do with their victory over Otago yesterday afternoon.
The Canterbury Rugby CEO is Tony Small. He joins us now,
Tony good afternoon.

Speaker 11 (01:29:32):
Yeah, good afternoon, Eli, wonderful day here in christ Church.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Well, I'm sure the celebrations have been in full swing
as well after what was a pretty special occasion yesterday too.

Speaker 11 (01:29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:29:42):
Ye, it was a reasonably late night later for some
than me, but I'm sure they'll go on for a
couple of days yet.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Yeah, pretty special occasion. Otago obviously the Southern Classic, the rivalry,
but the match delivered as well for a sold out crowd.

Speaker 30 (01:29:58):
Yeah, I mean, can't underestimate that crowd of blue and
gold and red and black. It was just a magnificent occasion.
And the two teams have played a pretty a pretty
crowd for end the start of rugby all year, so
couldn't have had a better final.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
It was right in the balance. Of course later on,
how you as a CEO feeling with the game and
the balance.

Speaker 30 (01:30:21):
I'm generally pretty good, but I knew yesterday it would
be a little bit different, so it spend a bit
of time pacing up and down.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Yeah, how do you bottle that? I guess for the
NPC what we saw yesterday, eighteen thousand fans and the
Sunshine and christ Church supporting. They had seen plenty of
passion in the stands as well. How do we bottle
that as a rugby country for future NPCs?

Speaker 30 (01:30:44):
Yeah, well, I think the thing is the NBC's built
on those rivalries, doesn't it, and they stand the test
of time. We've been going over one hundred years and
those passions still exist. So it's up to us as
leaders in our game to make sure we keep that alive.

Speaker 11 (01:31:03):
What was the magic bullet?

Speaker 19 (01:31:04):
You just?

Speaker 10 (01:31:04):
I think.

Speaker 30 (01:31:06):
What can we What our organization has prided itself on
this year is trying to connect back to those fans
to make sure that we're at the part of the game.
And yeah, it's just an awesome occasion yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Yeah, speaking to Itiger as well, they talked about connection.
Do you feel that maybe it's been lost over the
last few years and now it's important to restore that
that local connection.

Speaker 30 (01:31:28):
I think the break off COVID definitely put it into
that and it is if you've watched the NBC for
the last couple of years, all of the unions have
made it a focus of trying to connect, making sure
that connection is strong. So it has It's not by accident.
It's been deliberate and we've just got to keep doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
You would have seen Tom Christy up close for it
for a number of years. Now what does he mean
to Canterbury And look he put in a heck of
a performance again yesterday and that final and his last
game for the side before he heads up to the
Northern Hemisphere.

Speaker 11 (01:32:01):
Yeah, like pretty special for Tom.

Speaker 30 (01:32:03):
We started off with Cullen as our captain who only
last one game I think maybe two, maybe even only one.
But Tom stepped up and when he said about his
journey for this season, it was so important and you
could tell to him just giving back to Canterbury and
then with it being there last season at that stadium,

(01:32:25):
it just meant everything to him personally and he watch
his performances over the whole season being absolutely outstanding and
a great leader.

Speaker 11 (01:32:34):
The boys love it and I couldn't ask for more
from the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Man mentioned that stadium obviously a temporary one, but for
players like Tom Christy and you know most of all
this generation really it's all the Nolan Apollo Projects stadium.
So how important was it to sign off with a
victory like that?

Speaker 30 (01:32:54):
Well, the yes, most of those players have only played
at that stadium, so they know nothing different.

Speaker 11 (01:33:00):
For Canterbury.

Speaker 30 (01:33:02):
We set out in theme and the organization's theme that
this year was all about signing off at Apollo as
we head to one New Zealand stadium. So it became
a key part of the whole campaign and for ourselves
as an organization it served us well. But boy, we
are looking forward to what the new one will bring.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
I was going to say, will will you miss it?
Or you quite content to be heading to that new
stadium which every time I'm in christ Church looks like
it's coming along very very nicely.

Speaker 30 (01:33:29):
Yeah, it has been in a couple of times to
have a lock and it's looking magnificent. But I can't
underestimate how good that stadium has been, particularly for NPC.
The fact of if you remember Lancaster Park, it was.
It was one of the old round stadiums who played
cricket in it. This is a rectangular stadium. The team

(01:33:52):
is up close to our closest fans and they both
sides love it. The fans like being close to the
action and the players love being close to the to
the fans. So it's actually served us really well. And
if you look at the design of the new stadium,
it's it's for rugby and football and all the other
rectangular codes.

Speaker 11 (01:34:11):
There will be no cricket in it, so it's going
to be magnificent.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
How will you approach that new stadium as an MPC side,
because it is bigger than a polyprojects stadium, the more capacity,
how do you approach that? I guess given the challenges
around getting in PC crowds, although used today was a
fantastic crowd obviously, have you thought about how you might
approach that.

Speaker 30 (01:34:30):
You know, we definitely have and we talked about it
at the game with all the people who are there.
We will have an accessible, an accessible entry point into
that stadium and our plan is to encourage and join
as much of the community as we can so that.

Speaker 11 (01:34:47):
Absolutely we know it's sitting there and it's coming at us.

Speaker 30 (01:34:50):
It is bigger, but we have a deliberate pain to
make sure that anyone who wants to come to this
stadium and be a part of that action will encourage it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Marty Burke's final game is Canterbury coach as well before
he takes on other challenges. What's he been able to
do with this very young team? And you know MPC
is often in your players come in and change every year,
you have to change and remold the team. How important
has he been in connecting these players together?

Speaker 30 (01:35:20):
Yeah, Marty, Marty and his wife Kate just been magnificent
supporters of the game, is what I would say.

Speaker 11 (01:35:28):
Marty has.

Speaker 30 (01:35:28):
Mardy shares similar views to myself. The game is about
our community and making sure we build that connection to it.

Speaker 11 (01:35:36):
So it was quite a perfect alignment. But he has
spent his time in the community game.

Speaker 30 (01:35:41):
He's out there with the club coaches, making himself visible
and that's that's pretty important in the job that I
need to do, which has encouraged people into the game.

Speaker 11 (01:35:50):
We need to be can be.

Speaker 30 (01:35:52):
Rugby needs to be seen out there and so Marty's
brought that not only to the rugby community but also
to the fans.

Speaker 11 (01:35:59):
So just been magnificent.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
How will you go about replacing him for twenty twenty
six and beyond it.

Speaker 11 (01:36:06):
We're undertaking the reviews.

Speaker 30 (01:36:08):
They'll start next week and then we will be formerly
out in the market seeking applications.

Speaker 11 (01:36:14):
For a head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Tony Smail Canniby CEO with us. Tony, look, let's talk
the important question the mascot race, Larry the Lamb. That
was quite the effort from your mascot to win that
mascot race yesterday. You must be pretty proud to add
that title to the province as well.

Speaker 11 (01:36:31):
Absolutely, we haven't. We haven't performed very well in that
in recent years. But just magnificent.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
I'm hearing all sorts of rumors. I'm hearing rumors Tony
about who might have been in that suit. Can you
confirm clarify anything for us this afternoon.

Speaker 11 (01:36:46):
Well, just that the man had a bit of pace,
It's all I can say.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
He may have represented New Zealand maybe is that? Is
that possibly to be truthful?

Speaker 30 (01:36:57):
I actually don't know who it was. But what was
very clear was they were they were blessed with some speed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
They certainly were well. Tony and Joy the celebrations and congratulations.
Are NPC champions for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 11 (01:37:11):
Well done, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Tony Smile joining us on news Talk zeb You might've
heard last hour James mconiy sugues. Think it was Tiarn Welpdon,
the New Zealand sprinter in that suit. If you did
see the mascot race yesterday, Basically Larry the Lamb, the
Canterbury mascot, is about ten meters behind early on and
then just surges to the front and wins it with
about no one within thirty meters of them. Maybe a

(01:37:34):
little bit more could be t r Weldon. If it
was Tirn, we saw what a if of that is.
But I'm not sure they should be substituting next year.
We're gonna have someone's gonna try and get Usain Bolt down,
aren't they. Next year one of the big unions might
be Auckland, maybe North Harbor. There'll be a way they

(01:37:55):
could get a win. Just get Usain Bolt into the
mascot for the mascot race. Good fun. Nonetheless, let's go
to the lines afternoon. Graham good a here he is,
I'm good. We talked to you today. Did you enjoy
the occasion.

Speaker 32 (01:38:10):
I loved it. Like Tony Smail said, it was a
very very special afternoon one of my I've seen a
lot of great rugby and a lot of great results,
you know, but that that was up there with the
best of them, just in terms of the fact afternoon
rugby Canterbury at Targo, red and Black versus Blue and Gold,

(01:38:31):
and our boys really dug deep. And I think Tom Christie,
not single handedly, but he certainly played a huge role
in getting us over the line. And so pleased. I'm
and Marty Burke and we say, Zach Gallagher he's heading
the overs with France. He's played a great season and
Manassa Matli possibly too, He's played some of his best rugby.

(01:38:56):
So I'm just really delighted he got the win. Elliott, yep, yeah,
I think a tough opposition.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Oh absolutely, Look and you mentioned Zach Dellagher. I'm disappointed
he's going because I think moving to Blindside it was
by accident with all the injuries, but it's been kind
of the making of him.

Speaker 32 (01:39:13):
Well, yeah, I sort of came by accident and Dominic
Gardner then when he came back went to number eight,
and I think he's flourished and that with us and
told you so. Yeah, it's a real shame because I
think Zach played I think some of his besh rugby
played very well before for Canterbury and at times with
the Crusaders and the Hurricanes earlier this year. But yeah,

(01:39:35):
I think it was his best season. And hope he
comes back to the only young man and and he's
playing great.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Yeah, he certainly is. Graham nice hear from you. Enjoy
the celebrations as you claim the NPC title. Aiden with
this from Dunedin driving home to Duneda after pilgrimage for
the final. A great final to close out one of
the best NPCs for some time. Otago played as to
have all seasons, tack early lead but couldn't take advantage
of a thirteen to fifteen point in Northwestern against the

(01:40:02):
Canterbury team who played as they have all season and
defended resolutely. Then Candy produced a clinical eighteen minutes to
round kick off the second half and effectively close out
the game. I'm excited for the super NPC seasons and
twenty six given the emergence of so many young players.
Look forward to seeing several push for World Cup jerseys.
And twenty seven look forward to the battle between the
Warriors and Otago to claim the next year is our

(01:40:25):
slogan have the Warrior's trademark that thank you very much,
aid and Save travels back to Toned and here it
was a special occasion, John, with us though sorry but
not sure what game you and James are watching. The
NPC final didn't live up to expectations, Candory playing their
boring pick and go rugby style and Otaga moving away
from what got them there and poor decision making like
kicking possession away against the wind. The Semis were a

(01:40:46):
better spectacle. Cheers John, We will take a break here
on news Dog ZB, come back and talk a league.
On the other side, it is twenty four after two.

Speaker 22 (01:40:55):
It's more than just a game.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Another one gone at bay Oval, j Bethel's gone for
two bowl by Folks and absolute peachave delivery from Zach Folks,
who now has the figures of three for three in
his third over quite remarkable England ten for four in
the sixth over Keep a close eye on that for
you over the next week, while black Caps having a

(01:41:26):
storm at Bay Oval in the opening one day, the
Wellington Phoenix back home for the first time this season
in the A League. They have the Brisbane Raw kickoff
just over half an hour away at sky Stadium. Their
captain is Alex Ruferm and he joins me now on
news Talk ZEBB. Alex, how thrilled are you to be

(01:41:48):
back at home in front of your home fans?

Speaker 10 (01:41:51):
Of course, Look, we're really excited and looking forward to
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
How much is on the mind that you want to
repay the faith of the fans. So what was a
tough season at home last year? Just the one win?

Speaker 10 (01:42:03):
Yeah, look coming, we've we're spoken about d and we
want to make sky Stadium our fortress again and like
you said, repay, repay the face that the fans have
shown us and give them something to smile about.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
How do you go about rebuilding that?

Speaker 10 (01:42:17):
I think we need to make sure that we make
it a fortress and make it really really tough, tough
for teams to come here and then play and attacking
aggressive style of football, which we have been doing. And
I think you know, the last game in pers showed
that note all that we started slowly and we were
turned all down. The boys never gave up and we
fought back some tonal and then got a decent result.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
How pleased were you with that character to earn a
point last week, as you say, turnle down to get
a too two drawl?

Speaker 11 (01:42:47):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:42:47):
Look, extremely happy. Anyone who's done that trip knows how
difficult it is, and you know they're a good team.
Obviously there's time difference, but look, we didn't worry about
those things that we couldn't control. We worried about ourselves
and like I said, really really happy and I'm really
proud of the team with the way we fought back
and got back into the game.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
As captain of this team, has obviously been some changes,
as there are after grevery a league season, but changes,
you know, imports, players coming in from different cultures. How
much leadership do you have to show at the start
of each season to get these players and assimilate them
into the Phoenix environment.

Speaker 10 (01:43:21):
Oh, look, we've got a very welcoming environment.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:43:24):
Obviously when they come in, you sit them down, you
talk to them, You need to know them a little bit,
and obviously throughout pre season you learn about them more
and you you know, start to build connections and then
from there it's just about showing them every day and
making sure they feel comfortable to express themselves on and
off the field.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
And obviously got some some quality imports. We saw that
last week. That felt like they slotted them pretty quickly
into the team.

Speaker 10 (01:43:49):
Yeah, exactly. Look, that's what you want. You want your
especially your foreign players to settle quickly and perform well.
And all of them did that, you know, also the
all the Kiwi players as well, and all the new
Ozzie imports as well, they've got have come in. Everyone
settled nicely and everyone you know, showed what they're are,
what they can.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
What do you expect from the rule this afternoon?

Speaker 10 (01:44:11):
Oh look, that'll be very very aggressive. We've seen that
they're a good team. The coach is also a good
coach from Europe, so he's got them playing in an
aggressive way. So we need to make sure we match
that and then play our game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Do you get the sense that you know this this
competition looks pretty even. I know we're only one and
a bit runs through, but it feels like it's a
pretty even competition this year.

Speaker 10 (01:44:34):
Yeah, it looks like you said it. It is early
in the in the season to start obviously making comparisons
and looking at other teams. But I do think it's
going to be close. And I think after you know,
first four to six games, you kind of start to
see a.

Speaker 12 (01:44:49):
Little bit more.

Speaker 10 (01:44:50):
But at the moment, look, it looks very, very tight,
and it's it's close and looks like it's going to
be a tough, tough season for every team.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
We saw the team play last week with a pretty
high defensive line. How much of a mindset change has
that been through the preseason and last week getting used
to that style?

Speaker 10 (01:45:07):
Yeah, Look, we worked on a little pre season. I
wouldn't say it's a mindset change. I'd just say it's
more of a tactical change. I think, you know, the
players have adapted well to it, and you know, now
our mindset is we need to make sure that we
do it well, we train well during the week, and
make sure that we we're smart enough to know when
to do it and.

Speaker 12 (01:45:24):
When not to do it.

Speaker 10 (01:45:26):
But look, it was really positive. It did cause us
problems at the start of the game. I think there's
a few teething issues that you know, first game, it's
obviously a little bit of pressure, and it took us
time to adapt, but once we did, I thought it
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
How much does that take confidence that it is the
right style and I guess patients that it is going
to work and be the style that is going to
deliver results of this team.

Speaker 10 (01:45:49):
Well, look, we have to believe in every player. Does
we believe in the coach, We believe in each other,
and that's the most important thing. These things do take time.
It's not something that you can you know, perfect overnight
per se. But look, like I said, we believe in
the system, we believe in each other. We believe and
the coach and the staff, and you know, we're in
a positive heading, in a positive direction.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
And maintaining position comes with its rewards as well. It
can frustrate the opposition. I think last week he had
seventy percent position, So you know, it does have obviously
benefits in terms of just you know, creating a little
bit of frustrating for the team that's having to play
up against it.

Speaker 10 (01:46:28):
Yeah, exactly. Look, we dominated the game, you know, with
the ball, obviously, but I think the funny thing is
is that the first half we actually weren't that great
with the ball, so there's still areas to improve, and
I think once we really find out and figure out
you know, where to hurt teams will be much more
effective and create more chances.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
And once your message finally, Alex ru to the Phoenix
fans and the capital is they obviously had a frustrating
season last year as we touched on before, but to
get them along and buying tickets and seeing you guys
in action this afternoon and for your home games over
the next few weeks as well, just.

Speaker 10 (01:47:01):
To support us like they always as they're extra man.
I believe we've got the best fans in the league.
You know, the Yellow Fever are an amazing force and
like I said, when they're there in full force, loud
and proud and makes all the difference for us. So
get behind the lads, you know, be as loud as
possible and enjoy the game. Good man.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Hey Alex wis you the best of luck this afternoon.
Appreciate your time on on News Talk ZBB.

Speaker 10 (01:47:24):
Awesome mate, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Thank you, Alex Riifer. The Phoenix and Action this afternoon
three o'clock at Sky Stadium they played the Brisbane Raw
one home win last year. Hopefully better days ahead, for
the Wellington Phoenix at home in season twenty twenty five
twenty six. We're going to change tech completely now and
talk about the Winter Paralympics which are early parts of

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next year. And Corey Peters has been selected for his
next games. He's got a very very successful record. In fact,
he's won four Paralympic medals. He won gold last time
at Beijing on the sitski and he joins us now
on News Talk ZEBB as we count down to the
Winter Power Olympics next year. Corey, thank you as so
much for your time this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:48:10):
Yeah, no worries, thanks for having me.

Speaker 18 (01:48:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Count down to Milan Courtsina early next year, of course.
How a preparation's going as you get ready for this event.

Speaker 6 (01:48:21):
Yeah, preparations are going well. Had a good season here
in New Zealand, a nice training camp over in Chile. Yeah,
just feeling you know, what's feeling good? Mine's feeling good.
So yeah, ready to kick into it in about three
weeks when we get off to Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Can you believe that it's already been three in a
bit years since that golden twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (01:48:43):
Yeah, it definitely goes fast, you know, it goes by
in a flash. Risk you know, it's pretty crazy, but yeah,
they come around quick, and yeah, like I said, we're
ready to go again and feeling in a good position,
feeling confident that gold medal.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Do you go back and watch it? I know you've
sort of described it as one of the best runs
of your life. Do you go back often and watch
that means Downhill, Gold Middle.

Speaker 6 (01:49:09):
Yeah, to be honest, I do, actually like every once
in a while, I'll flick back and watch it, and
it kind of almost gives myself a little bit of,
you know, extra motivation and inspiration. You had to kind
of push forward and hopefully we can do it again.
It's obviously not going to be an easy feat. The
competition seems to get better and better every year. So
we'll just go out there and I'll do my best

(01:49:31):
and hopefully try and replicate it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
What went so right that day to create that run
of your life?

Speaker 6 (01:49:37):
As you said, I think you know what they're talking
about with that flow state, you know, like athletes and
not get into that flow state.

Speaker 22 (01:49:45):
It kind of felt like that for me.

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
It just really felt like everything slowed down and I
was just in the zone, just tunnel vision. Every turn
was felt perfect, and it just felt like I had
a lot of time to react, even though you know
you're going to one hundred odd.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
K and now, and you backed it up the next
day with the silver and the super g as well
as it was it hard to back up the next
day after that gold.

Speaker 6 (01:50:11):
Yeah, I guess you've got a lot of adrenaline going right,
and even until the next day it's still there. You're
still on a high. So I guess confidence just breeds
more confidence in a way coming off of gold. You
just you know, it's kind of what we trained for.
You just come back the next day and do it again. Yeah,
it was sort of pipped up the post. I guess
by half a second. Would have been nice to get

(01:50:32):
the double gold, but you know that's all history now
and we move forward and try and do it again,
this time with two golds.

Speaker 10 (01:50:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Absolutely, Fingers crossed. How tricky is the build up being
this time? I know you just look at it your
shoulder a couple of years back. How much did that,
I guess derail or change your plans as you build
into this premier event.

Speaker 29 (01:50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:50:56):
So after Beijing, I had the birth of my daughter,
so I took that year off actually, and then the
following year was, like you said, I had the shoulder
dessication and that's the second time that shoulder's been out,
So it was that rehab took a lot longer than
I expected, probably a good twelve months. And then there
was a bit of a I guess psychological element to

(01:51:17):
it as well, coming back. I guess having you know,
extra responsibilities at home. Now you know, you start questioning,
you know, re injuries and you know, how how much
do you want to push? So there was, yeah, that
psychological element to it, which you know, I had a
little bit of work with the sports I can got
back into it with the competition season last Northern Hemisphere,

(01:51:40):
which wasn't my greatest season, but I feel like we've
sort of turned the corner nout And yeah, having that
camp in Chile this year was a real confidence booster
for me, and I feel I've turned the corner and
you know, I'm one hundred percent ready to go now,
like the shoulders back to normal, it's not really an
issue anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
It's positive. With the moments though that you were thinking
about checking it in given the amount of rehab that
so you seid to get Yeah, for a year, were
at the moments where you thought, maybe, you know, I
don't need to come back, I don't want to come back.

Speaker 6 (01:52:12):
Oh no, it's always you know, you always want to
for me, like it was always there, I was always
going to come back. There's no question about you know, quitting.
I think it's I've learned.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Over the years.

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
You know, you're always going to face adversity. Athletes, you know,
always going through injuries and stuff, and it's just a
matter of picking yourself back up and you know, working
with a medical team and the strength and conditioning coaches
to get back to one hundred percent. And that's where
we're at now. So yeah, ready to go.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
You mentioned that you've become a dad obviously in the
last couple of years since the last Paralympics as well.
Has that changed your perspective on racing and your preparations
and training and everything like that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
I guess a little bit. And also in a way
it's sort of motivating as well. You're not just doing
it for yourself anymore. You're doing it for the family
and a little young one now, So yeah, gives me
inspiration and motivation to keep pushing forward and yeah, just
give it my all. Really, But I guess that there
is that little bit of element of you know, re

(01:53:17):
injuries and things like that. But I think every athlete
you know has has that. But you know, we put
on the training, we work on the technique and stuff
like that, so hopefully, you know, all that comes into
play and it won't happen again.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Absolutely, Corey tell me to you talk to me about
your set ski. Now, what goes into getting that piece
of equipment right? How much sake can you have? What
are the regulations? Are there any regulations around it for
what you are using as you prepare for the Olympics.

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
Yeah, so my six keys quite highly motivated, not motivated modified.
We work closely with the Crisis Canterbury University and their team.
They have worked on making it an dynamic as possible
in terms of like the leg fairing and the camtail
on the back of the seat. So that's sort of

(01:54:12):
like a one off, one of a common thing. Nobody
else is really doing it and it just helps reduce
the drag when I'm coming down the mountain.

Speaker 11 (01:54:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:54:22):
I guess it's much like a final these sports, we're
looking for fractions of a second you know, it all counts.

Speaker 32 (01:54:28):
So yeah, it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:30):
Hugely grateful for you know, the support that I've had
through Cannobi University and the team there that have ensured
that I'm pretty much, you know, and one of the
best kids six kis in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
How much has that changed since twenty eleven when you
took up the sport. How much is the technology and
things that go into a change and what you use
since you first picked it up.

Speaker 6 (01:54:54):
Yeah, I think the sport's hugely progressed. You know, like
especially with the technology side of it. There's a lot
more science and you know, collecting data and all that
sort of thing now going on. Everybody is looking for,
you know, those extra little games when you're you know,
like I said earlier, losing, you know, getting second by

(01:55:15):
less than half a second or whatever it was. It's
you know, everybody's just looking for those extra little fractions
of second. And I think you're just with all the
technology and you know, the data collection, it's the competitions
just got different stuff as the years have gone on.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Take me to the top of the mountain. I guess
I was watching you go been to run last night
as I was preparing to chat to you and what's
going through your mind as you prepare to drop in.
I guess that's the terminology. I hope it's the terminology
for you. You're sitting downhill race like you did at
the at the Paralympics in Beijing.

Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
Yeah, I think with that that particular event, the downhill,
it's the only event that we get to have to
training run then just because of the risk and the
dangers involved with this higher speed. So that allows you
to kind of build, you know, say training run one
in two and just continue to keep building till race day. Unfortunately,

(01:56:09):
I crashed in both those training runs, so I didn't
actually get to finish the whole course as such. So yeah,
there's a little bit of nerves obviously in the stargate,
you know, knowing that you hadn't actually finished the whole
course or put it all together. But I think, you know,
we train all the time like this, Like I said,
you kind of once you break that wand and you're

(01:56:31):
on course, it's just like a tunnel vision, you know,
like everything else just I guess disappears, you know, and
you've just got that one focus and obviously, you know,
because of the speed you going, the risk you know,
it makes sense to just be in the zone and
fully focused. You know, if you laps that concentration, then

(01:56:52):
you know obviously it's not going to end well and
you'll probably end up crashing. So yeah, just full concentration,
full focus on each gate in front of you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Corey Peters with US New Zealand ski Rice a Paralympian,
full time medalist, a couple of final questions.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Corey.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
The Paralympics starts in early March. So what does the
next few months look like. You mentioned you're off for
the Norn the Hemisphere soon.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
Yeah, so we're heading off in about three weeks to
Italy to start our preparations, final preparations or final push.

Speaker 11 (01:57:22):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:57:25):
We're predominantly going to be based in Italy fairly close
to Courtina, but from there where we'll travel and follow
the World Cup circuit as well, so we'll have World
Cup preparation races prior to the Games, and I guess
that'll give us obviously good preparation, but we'll also kind
of benchmark of where you're at with your competition as well,

(01:57:46):
and the leader to Courtina and.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
How confident at this point. You mentioned obviously it's been
a rocky sort of build up, but that you know,
might be able to add to those four medals that
you've got for New Zeald.

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
Yeah, that's obviously the goal. I've had one hundred percent
success right with my Paralympic campaigns with a middle every
game I've attended, so I want to continue that Patsy
aldomate goal. And yeah, I guess just go there and
give it your role and just be proud of the

(01:58:18):
effort that you put in and see where you kind
of end up in a way.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Absolutely well. We look forward to that early next year
and following your progress and the lead up to the Paralympics. Corey,
thanks so much of your time on news Talk zeb
last chatting.

Speaker 6 (01:58:31):
Thanks a lot, awesome for Henry. Thanks appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:58:34):
Corey.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Peter's joining us on Newstalk ZIBB on a Sunday afternoon
weekend Sport New Zealand. Sis Skier heading for the Paralympics
is fourth next year. Grateful for his time this afternoon.
Another one's gone at bay Oval Josh Butler gone thirty
three for five. England Harry Brooks is the only player
that has scored double figures as yet he's not out

(01:58:55):
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the ninth ive back with more on Weekend Sport after this.

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Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
MB twelve away from three great piece on the New
Zealand Here All week in Herald this weekend about Craig Wicks,
who helped Unto Orzu win the NPC and made his
all Blacks debut in nineteen eighty aged eighteen. And as
the story goes on, then just as quickly he disappeared.
The remarkable story of the only schoolboy all Black, Craig Wicks.

(01:59:35):
The man that wrote the article is New Zealand Herald
sports journalist Michael Burgess, and he joins us now, Michael,
had this story been percolating for a while, he'd have
actually writing it.

Speaker 28 (01:59:46):
It had actually alit. I came across it in twenty twenty.
I was doing a story on Schoolboy Rugby, talking to
some of the Super eight schools, which of course of
the big boys schools around the North island outside Auckland
and just talking to someone at Palmerston North Boys High
and he just casually mentioned I think it was a
sports director casually mention when I was talking about some

(02:00:07):
famous six pupils. He said, oh, we had a kid
here once who played for the All Blacks while he
was still at school. And I said, really, that can't
be possible, get it? And I wanted to know more.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Apart from that, what did you find out that surprised
you Over the course of putting to the story together.

Speaker 28 (02:00:24):
I think the most amazing thing about his story is
what he achieved in such a small space of time,
because getting picked for the All Blacks as a schoolboy
as remarkable and as we said the story, it's never
happened before.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
It never happened again, obviously, but he was a regular.

Speaker 28 (02:00:41):
In the Muna We two team back in the days
Elliott when NPC was everything, there's no Super Rugby, there
were All Blacks playing in every team. I think there
were seven All Blacks in that Mona Were two team
in nineteen eighty that went on to win the NPC
for the only time in their history. They beat everyone,
They beat Canterbury, they breat Auckland, they beat all the
big provinces to win the NPC.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
He's a regular in that team.

Speaker 28 (02:01:03):
He gets elective for the North Island team, gets elect
of the New Zealand Colts. And if you look back
at that colts team in nineteen eighty that went to
play Australia, that was a who's who you got the
you got the Wetton brothers, you got Karen Crowley, you've
got Rock Taylor, Arthur Stone. So the schoolboy, the only
school bearing that colts team as well, was just mixing
it with guys who would all go on to have

(02:01:28):
pretty amazing careers. Unfortunately he didn't, but the fact he
finn heads so quickly across the rugby nation was quite amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:01:37):
You spoke to some of his contemporaries as well. What
kind of a steam was he held in Craig Wicks.

Speaker 28 (02:01:44):
Yeah, I think that's the other thing that comes across
when you speak to guys like Mark Donaldson, who you know,
listeners remember great All Blacks half back sort of dueling
with Dave Loverage for a long time for that number
nine spot. Who's nickname Bullet? Who's the one or two captain?
He said great things about Craig Wigs. He said, one
thing that stood out was he came into the team

(02:02:05):
just didn't need any looking after. He just sort of
fitted in straight away into a man's game, a tough
man's game. He got this seventeen year old, eighteen year
old kid fitting in. And I love the comments too
from Mark Shaw Cowboy, who is an absolute legend, and
he just said, oh, you know, the boy was outstanding.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
No one could catch him.

Speaker 11 (02:02:27):
He was just, you know, just a standing bastard.

Speaker 28 (02:02:31):
I think, make sure said in his own way. So yeah,
I think his contemporaries all rated him pretty highly and
that shows I guess how good he was.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
And obviously, as you alluded to before, it didn't all
go to plan and unfortunately didn't have perhaps the All
Blacks career that he envisaged through injuries. And that's probably
also what makes the story so fascinating as well.

Speaker 28 (02:02:57):
It's a pretty big what might have been story, Elliott,
because it wasn't just he didn't have the All Blacks
crew might have been that he might have had. He
didn't have the rugby crew he might have had he
played that nineteen eighty season. I mentioned all the things
he did there nineteen eighty one, there were a few
niggling injuries, but he's still at that stage. He's nineteen,
he's still good enough. He was an Ill Blacks trial,
he was in the Colts again. He played for one

(02:03:19):
or two against the spring Box that controversial tour, so
he's still very much up there. And then the start
of the nineteen eighty two season, in pre season, i
think before his twentieth birthday, had this horrific knee injury
similar to the Michael Jones injury of nine eighty nine
where he ruptured both major cruciates in his knee and back.

(02:03:42):
Then in nineteen eighty two, they really didn't know how
to fix it. Compared to it by the time Michael
Jones did it, they obviously had much better technology and
they kind of bungled the surgery as well. He had
repeated operation of the next three or four years, but
just never came right and had to pull the pin.
So never really played again. So very big what might

(02:04:04):
have been. Is quite philosophical about it. He's in a
ways happy he had, he had the time he did
and he got the chance to shine when he did,
although I'm sure he wonders what earth and what what
he could have done if things had it turned out differently,
as a lot of his teammates from back then seemed
to wonder as well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
Michael Burgess, thank you for your time this afternoon on
the story of Craig Wix. You can read it on
the New Zealand Herald. Back to wrap the show after this,
it is for away from three on Weekend Sport thanks
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