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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Glenn Maxwell has a book out. It's called The Showman
and Charts. Has comeback from a traumatic broken leg at
the back end of twenty twenty two to being a
huge part of Australia's twenty twenty three World Cup win,
which included one of the most extraordinary one day innings
ever played, forty hairs.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
On their feet and legend unbelievable, famous, lafable thing you've
probably ever seen cricket, staggering, absolutely one bowing, what a
one and he should not have to walk off the part.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
He should be carried off.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What a performance he had two hundred and one not
out in that World Cup pull match at the back
end of last year. Woven into the story are some
brilliant sights into the events and people that have shaped
him into one of the world's premiere all round cricketers.
It is a terrific read. Glenn Maxwell is with us. Glenn,
congratulations on the book, your first one. Are you happy?
(01:19):
How happy are you with the way it's come out?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah? Extremely proud of the way it's come out.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's a lot of hard work and a lot of
time put into it, and certainly very proud of how
it's come up.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Can we start where the book starts, after the prologue
and all that sort of thing with your ankle break
November twenty twenty two, freak accident at a makes fiftieth birthday.
There's a photo. I think that photo should come with
a warning as well. Now that you're on the other
side of it, how concerned were you initially that it
would severely affect your career?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
To be honest, I was really naive to how much
dammage I'd truly done, to my thought, and had no
idea of the magnitude of effort and time that was
going to have to be put back into rehab and
owning to I suppose get it back up to speed
to even be ninety percent of what.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It once was.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
And once I suppose I got on the journey of
almost getting back and sort of having those relapses of
pain and having to go through the process all again,
it was only then that I sort of understood the
severity of what I'd done. And yeah, it's hard to
sometimes read back through and sort of remember all of that, but.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I suppose it sort of makes it all part
of your journey.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How did you navigate the darkest parts of that, the
times when you thought, Hey, there isn't a finish line
in sight here, I'm not going to be able to
do what I used to do well.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
To be honest, I never really felt like that. I
always thought that there was going to be a way
that I'd find a way through because there hadn't been.
I suppose a hurdle that I hadn't been able to
push through overcome, And I'd sort of always been driven
like that throughout my career to if you have a roadblock,
find a way to get pass and get through it.
(03:10):
And I just saw this as another hurdle, and it
just was probably took me longer to get over it
than probably some of the other hurdles that I've had
in my career. All right, let's jump forward then, because
people can read all about your rehab and the endless
stuff that you had to do to get right for
the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You got there. I want to jump to your to
one night out of that's okay, Glenn pat Cummins comes in,
You're seven for ninety one, chasing two ninety two to one,
three hours later, double one hundred, one hundred and twenty
eight balls, twenty one fours, ten six's. The last eighty
runs come when you're severely cramping, your body's basically giving
up on you. Aaroni and Smith said, the most remarkable
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thing you'll probably ever see in cricket. And you're right
so brilliantly about it.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What's it like having that moment that people will never forget?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, it's pretty surreal.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I feel like I've had moments throughout my career where
I've had flashes of really good staff, I've had incredible
teams that I've been a part of to achieve incredible stuff,
and to have.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I suppose a moment that.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
People relate to or people can sort of say that
that was there where they were moments that's going to
be forever surreal and forever something that I'll sort of
just pinch myself and can't believe I've been able to
achieve something that.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Something like that, And.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I think to be able to sort of talk people
through it and talk through the emotions almost sort of
humanizes a little bit as well. To be able to,
I suppose speak about in a bla way and sort
of explain that I was tired and I just sort
of wanted it to be all over, and I sort
of had other people willing me through and been able
(05:05):
to sort of help me get through that. It wasn't
just me on that journey. There was a lot of
people so helped me through it as well. But it
was an incredible night and one I'm very grateful for.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I've watched back the highlights just an advance of chatting
to you, and the last eighty runs. I mean, you're
just standing there and you know you're you're not moving
your feet at all, are you just you're just waving
the bed at it, but still with there's a credible timing.
What was that like, man and that last eighty runs
or so.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, I've talked about different stages of this. I reckon cricketers,
I reckon I've been lucky enough as a cricketer. I
have maybe five or six days where everything goes right,
everything hits the middle of that, things go your way,
and you're able to walk off either undefeated or walk
off at the completion.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Of the game.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
And this was just one of those days where it
just lasted for a little bit longer and to a
point where my body was exhausted, and I was able
to almost back past that point and still be there
and still not get dismissed and somehow be there standing
at the end of that game.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And yeah, it certainly wasn't the way I thought my
eatings was going to end.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think as soon as I started cramping and my
back started going, I was like, well, this.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Is going to be over soon.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
That's going to have to do a lot of this
work with Zance and Josh Hazer would but hopefully I
can get us closer and then they can do the job.
But yeah, just kept on finding gaps, had a bit
of lark and yeah, kept trying to find a way.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, remarkable stuff. I mean, earlier on in the tournament,
you'd smashed a forty ball century against the Netherlands quick
fire forty odd in the win over New Zealand, but
then you fell off a golf cart and suffered concussion,
which means you missed the Paul game against Than I'd
completely forgotten about that and everything else that happened in
that World Cup. How do you reflect on that incident?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, it was It was a strange incident because because
I was concussed and I had a bit of memory loss.
I had no idea what happened, so I sort of
got I was on the bus on the way back,
so holding my head because i'd sort of I had
this nasty cut on the back of my head, and
I had no idea what had happened, and so I
was just confused, and then got told when we got
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back to the hotel to clean it up, and they'd
sort of glue the little scratched back together, and I
still had no really, I had no memory of the incident.
I had no idea what actually happened, And.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
It was a really strange feeling, knowing that I was
can cast and having this like fifteen minute window.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Just completely gone.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
And yeah, the next few days were a bit strange.
I felt all sorts of range of emotions and then
sort of felt a bit of frustration that I was
missing out of the game and I was out for
a period of time, and just decided to do everything
possible that I could to get ready for that Afghanistan
game and make sure I didn't miss anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You won the World Cup in twenty fifteen. Was twenty
twenty three A bit more special though. I mean, you're
right so vividly about it. Was there something a bit
more special about winning it in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, I think about how much doubts there were and
how the World Cup was sort of set up to
be India's great triumph. I think the fact that there
was a lot of things against us. I think the
two games that we started off or we played against
probably the two other favorites in India and South Africa.
Losing those two and to sort of come back from
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there and win the rest of the games was something
that was pretty incredible and amazing to be a part of.
And there's so many doubts, especially from back home after
those first two games that we were in disarray, there
was turmoil and we'd hit the panic button and it
was now never and we just were able to find
a way for the rest of the tournament and once
(09:05):
we got to I suppose that final day there was
obviously only one hurdle, and it was the home the
home country and India and against all their fans, a
sea of blue, and it was supposed to be their
final triumph and their be celebration, and to I suppose
upset that have a brilliant final where Pat Cummins masterminded.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I suppose brilliant tactical changes throughout that whole whole innings
what was just made it all the more special.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Another underlying theme in the book is your relative lack
of red ball cricket for Australia. You've played over two
hundred and sixty white ball matches just the seven tiest
matches nonsense twenty seventeen, none at home. Do you still
harbor red ball ambitions for Australia?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I certainly do.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
There's a tour coming up to Sri Lanka at the
back end of our summer and.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I'm certainly keen to put my hand up for that.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's also in the lead up to the Champions Trophy,
so there's going to be a block of cricket there
with the Australian side where I'm hoping I'm involved, and
who knows what that squad's going to look like. The
conditions in chill Anchor are extremely different to anything we
have in Australia, and I'm sure that squad's going to
look completely different to what our current national side looks like,
(10:30):
and the structure of the team's going to be completely
different as well. So looking forward, I'd love to be
a part of that, but if I do miss out
on selection, it's probably not going to define how my
career is being.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Just want to ask you about a couple of incidents
or matches on this side of the Tasman. One of
my colleagues found out I was chatting to you and
he said, you got to ask him about the group
game at the twenty fifteen World Cup Eden Park. You
guys all out one fifty odd, we're cruising one thirty
one for four. Then you get Corey Anderson out and
all of a sudden we lose five for fifteen. Treat
Bolt comes in to join Kain. We lives in a
new famously gave it the choke brilliantly to our crowd.
(11:08):
Do you remember that.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I remember being on that side of the ground for
I reckon.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Fifteen hours before that, and I was just copping it relentlessly.
And then I went back out there when the I
think it was the ninth wicket was lost and they
were dead silent, and they were just staring at me,
and I was like, Jesus gone quiet over here.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And I did that, and oh my god, I just
had instant regrets.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Like just instant, I just when the things you do
when you're young and stupid around the crowd. But to
be fair, the crowd took it really well, like they
actually took it. They gave it back and end of
the game we sort of like, I gave me a
clap and said that it was pretty cool to be
a part of.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And but yeah, it's just one of those dumb things
you're doing younger.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I hadn't I don't know first thing that popped
in my mind that they were choking, and after all
the grief I've been copping for the previous I thought
it was a good chance to get it back and
then came in and just goes bang and hits it
for six in its game over No brilliant.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I think all the reactions just probably helped that we won,
but all the reaction afterwards was just brilliant, the fact
that you could give it but also take it as well.
The other one, other one was Wellington in twenty twenty one.
You smashed one of the yellow seats at Wellington Stadium
and the studium manager at the time got you to
sign it auctioned at off for a charity. Do you
remember that one?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, I do, I remember that was was that off
one mate? There might have been off Jimmy Nishan bound
to have been.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I hope it was. I got him to sign.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I got him to sign one of his shirts and
I had I think it was signed like four four
six four four six four or.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Brilliant.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
But yeah, that was a strange series that I think
that was one of our first ones post covid or.
We definitely did a We did a quarantine I think
on the way over to New Zealand, which looking seems ridiculous,
it's literally just jumping over the backfence and going to
see our neighbors.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And yeah too have that.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Series in front of no one, especially after all our
history and how much the crowd gets into those contests,
that felt like a bit of a shame that we
were playing in front of no crowds.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And I certainly remember that series being a bit of
a strange one.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And just something else you write about twenty nineteen, the
indefinite break you took from cricket streas anxiety depression. How
do you reflect on that time in your life.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah, it's obviously a difficult time, But as I stress
in the book, there's probably been other moments throughout my
career that I wasn't able to identify what was going
on in my brain and what I now know to
be clinical signs of what I was going through. And
I suppose to be able to sign it a sign
(14:06):
it a name and assign it's a place that I
now know how to identify it and how to deal
with it and adjust to life with it. It's not
going to completely disappear out of my life. It's always
going to be something I'm continually working on. And it
had to come to a head at some stage. And
I'm certainly lucky I had great people around me and
(14:27):
I was able to come back to the sport. I
know there's been people that have had it and gone
away and not been able to come back, and I
was extremely lucky to have the support around me, put
some things in place and to be able to come back.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And I suppose play the game that I grew up loving.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
To be able to I suppose get through it and
find a way to I suppose play through it as well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, it was just one example of many. In the
book of the roller Coaster that your career has been Glennett.
Like I say, it's a cracking reader. I hope you
sell heaps of these. How's your hamstring? By the way,
you're going to be okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
It should be all right.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
It's just a probably a little bit older, and it's
going to probably take me a little bit longer to
be one hundred percent. I think if I had done
this ten years ago, I would have said I'm back
playing next week, but probably going to be a bit
more cautious with this one, especially with what's to come
at the back end of the summer. So hopefully you'll
be back in a couple of weeks, but I mean,
(15:25):
no real rush at the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Good Man again, congrats on the book. I hope you
sell heaps. Thanks to having a chat to us across
New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Cheers, no, thank you, Glenn, Glenn Maxwell. There the books
called The Showman. I had the chance to read an
advanced copy. It's really good, really really good. And yeah,
that incident back at Eden Park in twenty fifteen, I
remember that so vividly. So much about that Cricket World
Cup stands out to me. For that game when Trent
Bolt basically knocked them over for one point fifty. We're cruising,
(15:56):
we lose five for not many and yeah, Glenn Maxwell
giving it the choke to the fans. What a great,
great opportunity to air his perspective on that had the
last laugh, even though came Williamson won that game. They
went on to win their Cricket World Cup and the
twenty twenty three to one as well, which forms a
big part of this book, The Showman by Glenn Maxwell.
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