September 14, 2024 • 5 mins
The Wellington Lions are ready to challenge the Tasman Mako for the Ranfurly Shield.
The Lions will play against the Mako in NPC's round six that doubles as a Shield game.
Wellington's Jackson Garden-Bachop joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks, ed b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Pen Oct Wellington and Bet.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I figure this came over they know, but they have
won the ran Furley Shield.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh, they are lugging big time.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Nineteen twelve Wellington over hawks By.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, so that was Wellington winning the Ranfurley Shield almost
exactly two years to the day ago. Actually beating hawks
Bay nineteen twelve in Napier a couple of years ago.
They fended off six challenges before hawks By eventually won
it back off them last year. Now the Lions get
another crack this afternoon. Wellington first five Jackson Garden bashop
(00:49):
as whether Sar Jackson, thanks for taking the call, Oat
of know you're getting close to kick off down. They're
six from six for Wellington the season. What's beaten behind
your excellent consistency?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, I don't know if we've been anywhere near consistent yet.
There's been some pretty ugly wins, but we've been finding
a way, which is a good thing. And we've gone
pretty deep into our squad over the last couple of games.
So you know, it hasn't always been pretty, but you're
not finding away to win. It's good.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Why do you think that beautiful rugby has been a
bit harsh to come by.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
A lot due to weather for our home games, some
of them more exciting way we played against Canterbury when
it was the first funny day that we had, first
game against Auckland, we defended really well, had to come
from behind against Mono too, So there's been a couple
of different situations that we've have been put in so
far and we're sort of managed to find a way.
So that's a that's a positive for us, but you know,
(01:42):
we would like to start playing some consistently good rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You mentioned going deep into your squadron storm week. Of course,
this is your third game in eight days. Uh could
that be a factor or did you did enough if
you get a rest on Wednesday night to make sure
that it's not a factor.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think we've been managed pretty well by the coaching starts.
So they put a lot of faith in any young
squad on Wednesday night against against Otago and they did
a job. And I think only two of the boys
that started that game are starting today, so everyone should
should be ready to go. I think have you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Tried to treat this like a normal game, or have
you in fact embraced the fact that it's a shield challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think you've definitely just got to embrace it early,
acknowledged how big the occasion is, how exciting it is,
how awesome is going to be to play in front
of a sold our park. But then just as quickly
you need to take it back to what's important, which
is our process, our game, because you know, outside the lines,
nothing is going to contribute to the win other than
(02:42):
the twenty three that are taking the part.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You were part of, the seller of the side, the
Wellington side that won it a couple of years back,
first time that have been in the Capital for ages
since about nine. I think how special a moment is
it to win the RN Fairly Shield.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's awesome. It's hard enough to get a game where
we get to play for it, let alone win it.
When we won it last time, that was our third
crack at Hawk's Bay for the shield, so you know,
it was really exciting and you know, really satisfying.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know a few of the team were around when
you won it, and then we're there last year when
there were you know a bunch of defenses. But is
a true Brad Shields has never had it.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He's never held the shield. I think he's played one
game for it in twenty fourteen. But he's pretty pump.
He's pretty pumped for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's going to say, guys done so much in his
rugby career, be like a little kid, wouldn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, Well, that's the thing. You there's so many good
players that have played for such a long, long amount
of time and you know, never win it or never
even get to play for it. So we're lucky that
Tasman got it off Falk's Day last week and now
and now we've we've stumbled up on a on a challenge,
so it's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You've got Billy Proctor and Ruben Love back for this
one as well, is there there's no danger of disruption
with those guys coming back as there.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now they've been a part of this team for for
a long time, you know, and you know we're pretty
we're pretty tight off the field as a group and
they're and they're they're a big part of that. So
it's more about just getting getting over a little bit
of detail. But they slop back in nicely.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, and beyond this, you know it's it's just one game,
I know, but a special special trophy on the line
this afternoon, but are also equally determined to try and
lift the MPC trophy but later on.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
As well, one hundred percent. But like you say, one
week at a time. Well to get the ship the
shield today and five points and then hopefully play some
good rugby and doing so and good.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
News to I know we're here to talk about the shield,
but you'll be back in Super Rugby next year with
Mowana PACIFICA great to see that news. How did that
all come about?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Ah, just as as a sort of an unfolded that
I was going to be coming back to New Zealand
and staying in New Zealand for the next few whiles.
Sort of the feelers out to see if anyone would
be interested in there, and they come back and they were,
and I was extremely grateful that they were, and I'm
really excited to be a part of that. I think
it's a as a call team, it's a it's a
call movement and they've been building something special over the
(05:06):
the last few years. So then I'm keen to contribute
as much as I cantle it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh good to have that to look forward to in
twenty twenty five. For the meantime, it's this afternoon. I've
seen you lead the team song. I think, well, I'm
not sure if you're in Dunedin, but certainly let the
team victory song five times. Hope you get the chance
to do it again, this stuffternoon, Jackson.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, it's a good part of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh good on you mate, thanks for taking that call, Jackson.
Garden Baship who will line up at first five for
Wellington against Tasman this afternoon as they try and prize
the ranfully shield away from the Muckle who I'm sure
will be equally determined to make sure that it stays
in their region for a little while longer.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk z B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks, ed b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Pen Oct Wellington and Bet.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I figure this came over they know, but they have
won the ran Furley Shield.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh, they are lugging big time.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Nineteen twelve Wellington over hawks By.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, so that was Wellington winning the Ranfurley Shield almost
exactly two years to the day ago. Actually beating hawks
Bay nineteen twelve in Napier a couple of years ago.
They fended off six challenges before hawks By eventually won
it back off them last year. Now the Lions get
another crack this afternoon. Wellington first five Jackson Garden bashop
(00:49):
as whether Sar Jackson, thanks for taking the call, Oat
of know you're getting close to kick off down. They're
six from six for Wellington the season. What's beaten behind
your excellent consistency?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, I don't know if we've been anywhere near consistent yet.
There's been some pretty ugly wins, but we've been finding
a way, which is a good thing. And we've gone
pretty deep into our squad over the last couple of games.
So you know, it hasn't always been pretty, but you're
not finding away to win. It's good.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Why do you think that beautiful rugby has been a
bit harsh to come by.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
A lot due to weather for our home games, some
of them more exciting way we played against Canterbury when
it was the first funny day that we had, first
game against Auckland, we defended really well, had to come
from behind against Mono too, So there's been a couple
of different situations that we've have been put in so
far and we're sort of managed to find a way.
So that's a that's a positive for us, but you know,
(01:42):
we would like to start playing some consistently good rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You mentioned going deep into your squadron storm week. Of course,
this is your third game in eight days. Uh could
that be a factor or did you did enough if
you get a rest on Wednesday night to make sure
that it's not a factor.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think we've been managed pretty well by the coaching starts.
So they put a lot of faith in any young
squad on Wednesday night against against Otago and they did
a job. And I think only two of the boys
that started that game are starting today, so everyone should
should be ready to go. I think have you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Tried to treat this like a normal game, or have
you in fact embraced the fact that it's a shield challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think you've definitely just got to embrace it early,
acknowledged how big the occasion is, how exciting it is,
how awesome is going to be to play in front
of a sold our park. But then just as quickly
you need to take it back to what's important, which
is our process, our game, because you know, outside the lines,
nothing is going to contribute to the win other than
(02:42):
the twenty three that are taking the part.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You were part of, the seller of the side, the
Wellington side that won it a couple of years back,
first time that have been in the Capital for ages
since about nine. I think how special a moment is
it to win the RN Fairly Shield.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's awesome. It's hard enough to get a game where
we get to play for it, let alone win it.
When we won it last time, that was our third
crack at Hawk's Bay for the shield, so you know,
it was really exciting and you know, really satisfying.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know a few of the team were around when
you won it, and then we're there last year when
there were you know a bunch of defenses. But is
a true Brad Shields has never had it.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He's never held the shield. I think he's played one
game for it in twenty fourteen. But he's pretty pump.
He's pretty pumped for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's going to say, guys done so much in his
rugby career, be like a little kid, wouldn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, Well, that's the thing. You there's so many good
players that have played for such a long, long amount
of time and you know, never win it or never
even get to play for it. So we're lucky that
Tasman got it off Falk's Day last week and now
and now we've we've stumbled up on a on a challenge,
so it's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You've got Billy Proctor and Ruben Love back for this
one as well, is there there's no danger of disruption
with those guys coming back as there.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now they've been a part of this team for for
a long time, you know, and you know we're pretty
we're pretty tight off the field as a group and
they're and they're they're a big part of that. So
it's more about just getting getting over a little bit
of detail. But they slop back in nicely.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, and beyond this, you know it's it's just one game,
I know, but a special special trophy on the line
this afternoon, but are also equally determined to try and
lift the MPC trophy but later on.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
As well, one hundred percent. But like you say, one
week at a time. Well to get the ship the
shield today and five points and then hopefully play some
good rugby and doing so and good.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
News to I know we're here to talk about the shield,
but you'll be back in Super Rugby next year with
Mowana PACIFICA great to see that news. How did that
all come about?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Ah, just as as a sort of an unfolded that
I was going to be coming back to New Zealand
and staying in New Zealand for the next few whiles.
Sort of the feelers out to see if anyone would
be interested in there, and they come back and they were,
and I was extremely grateful that they were, and I'm
really excited to be a part of that. I think
it's a as a call team, it's a it's a
call movement and they've been building something special over the
(05:06):
the last few years. So then I'm keen to contribute
as much as I cantle it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh good to have that to look forward to in
twenty twenty five. For the meantime, it's this afternoon. I've
seen you lead the team song. I think, well, I'm
not sure if you're in Dunedin, but certainly let the
team victory song five times. Hope you get the chance
to do it again, this stuffternoon, Jackson.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, it's a good part of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh good on you mate, thanks for taking that call, Jackson.
Garden Baship who will line up at first five for
Wellington against Tasman this afternoon as they try and prize
the ranfully shield away from the Muckle who I'm sure
will be equally determined to make sure that it stays
in their region for a little while longer.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk z B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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