James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the All Blacks' test match victory, the Warriors' latest loss and the ongoing Euro 2024 tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk zb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And about this time every Sunday afternoon we get the
pleasure of the company of James mconey, which we do
right now.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hello mate, kid, Hey poney, how are you? What a game?
What a big game?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I loved it. I loved it, I really did. I.
I don't mean to compare, but I watched the Wallabees
Whales game afterwards and that was a bit underwhelming compared
to what happened under the roof and Denedin.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
For me, yeah, it was lame. It was a proper
test match last night, so enthralling the drama with d mac.
I totally agree with dmak about a shot clock. There
needs to be a shot clock. But also I'm just
wondering whether I don't blame him for smiling. I know
it's triggering for some people seeing all black smiling, but
maybe you can't do a full blown smile. Maybe it
(00:54):
needs to be like a Mona Lisa smile, just a smirk, just.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
A little, just a little grin. You would have seen
this as well. You would have been at grounds where
Damien McKenzie is taking kicks and he's on the big screen.
When he smiles, everybody cheers.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's part of his routine. I'm not going to stop him.
He's a bloody good goalkicker. Although there are a few
that were missed last night and also by Marcus Smith.
But it does put the pressure on tea delivery. I
was thinking, you can't have a prop doing that. It's
either going to be Caleb Clarke or a Morning Nadawa,
or we just get in someone like you know, Joseph Miller,
New Zealand's fastest man, just as a tea tea boy.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Like Idio sign Katia. He could come back from his
fledgling NFL career and basically the tea. So you're basically
you could put some starting blocks on the sideline and
out you go.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, far side of the field sideline conversion, I mean,
or even any sideline kick. That tea is going to
get out there fast. That's that's a seventy meter sprint there,
and you can't have anybody like lumbering over there. No
disrespect to our props, but hey, you know, although to
Mysy Williams did look quite quick to the Chiefs, maybe
he could do it. But yeah, maybe maybe delivery is key.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Absolutely it is key. Hey, England will be I don't
think they'll be necessarily kicking themselves, but they will be
thinking about a blown opportunity today, won't they.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Absolutely, that's the one that got away. I totally agree
with Liam Napier and some of your callers there who
were just you know, looking at thinking wow, there was
there were moments there and it's still cold of right
at the end that that penalty could have gone either
way right on full time. So England will be gutted.
They look like a work in progress as well. I mean,
Finn Baxter looks about twelve years old. The giant chairup
(02:46):
who's playing a reserve prop for them to see them.
But they also have people like you know that Dan
Cole is thirty seven years old, so they sort of,
I guess, trying to shore up that the scrum. And
that's I thought where the All Blacks excelled and put
pressure on in the last cour or. But up until
(03:07):
then I would say that England looked the better side.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I agree, I think, and I think for large parts
of the game, if you were going to break it
down with you know, forensic deep and forensic detail, I
think they probably shagged it in a lot of areas
and sixteen fifteen tells the story of that. You know,
Marcus Smith, I really like him, by the way. I
think he's a really good player. But he missed a
couple of shots of goal one in particular, which was
(03:33):
fairly handy.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah well, I mean Owen Pharrell would have splotted those.
But I like Marcus Smith, and even though Borthwick probably
doesn't see him as his number one first five, I
think England needs to keep stick with that Marcus Smith.
I've got to persevere with him because otherwise they go
back to boring old England. I don't think that makes
them competitive against teams like the All Blacks. So yes
(03:57):
to Marcus Smith, used to Chamber Cunningham South who went
to Hambleton Boys High and Lincoln University apparently and playing
blind so for England were exceptional. But in the final
quarter I just think the All Blacks bench was a
bit stronger. Softwhal Moor excellent, Boden Barrett really solid and clever,
(04:17):
Fletcher Newle as well kept the pressure on in the scrum,
and Luke Jacobson. They all studied the ship really but
we have to be honest, as all Blacks fans and
media rarely that this is a new era with Razor.
We've got to give them time. I don't think we
should be concerned if there is a loss against England.
(04:39):
But you know, because I was looking thinking, well, the
lineouts are shambles, so you've got no metallic or white lock,
and then you know the back line was a bit clunky,
and of course you're missing Aaron Smith, so and even
the defense of Sam Kine. I think we are missing
top players. This is a new era.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Speaking of time, are the Warriors running out of it
a little bit? To make the eight?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Do you know what they missed? That was tough yesterday
because they they did enough to win, but didn't quite
have the finish that they needed. And I'm gud when
it comes down to drop goals. You just haven't got
one person who spends their whole life and that's all
they care about. But I was so excited to see
(05:22):
Leka Hala Sima, the eighteen year old from Tonga, normally
a forward, second row sometimes front row, playing in the senders.
Did you see him? Phoney?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I did, I did, I've watched I didn't watch the
entire game. I was getting ready for the rugby, but
I've watched some highlights, and yeah, I love it when
you see it, when you see a guy you've never
heard of, really and they seize their chance.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And we've been talking about this on your show, Piney,
about filling that boyd in the Warriors, a big line breaking,
side stepping, attacking threats from anywhere in the field. And
when I say you know side stepping as well, I
mean not just a person who can change direction quickly.
I mean like he feigned one way, dipped the shoulder,
basically broke the defender's ankles as they say at that
(06:06):
Bulldog on as Bum And I was just like, I'm
not praying to get going off. I know I am.
I am prone to going off at the DP, but
I'm saying right now, Piney, a star is born. And
to quote Lady Gaga, it's like, tell me something, boy,
are you trying hard to fill that bored and you
(06:27):
are more scored? You're the center we've been looking for.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I know I do, and I love the way you've
articulated yourself through song. Can I just ask you about
the Europe.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's exciting to see it is.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah. I got up. I set my larm this morning
to get up to watch England play Switzerland and the Euros.
England won on penalties, which actually hasn't always been the case.
That was sort of almost turned up in the semi
finals by accident, haven't they England?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, this is weird. It's like they've missed magoo their
way through every single phase of play, although there have
been moments of brilliance and they really Garris Southgate owes
a lot to Jude beelling them for the overhead in
the previous game and then the overhead kick, and then
now he's got bacay Osaka who's kind of been trying
(07:26):
as much as he can to sort of do something
with his England team. I saw him make one run
and crossed it into the area and Harry Kane was
nowhere to be seen. Did you see that pony I did?
That is weird to me. There's something wrong with this
England team. But they are in the semis They're going
to play the Dutch and they're probably lucky they are
playing them because I think Spain looked really good. Yeah,
(07:50):
they're a little bit annoying and they dive all over
the place, but so does everybody. My big issue though
is yellow cards, and I mentioned it last week. Yellow
cards are still a problem, pony. Don't you think the
incorrect yellow cards is what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right? I was running what the other part about it is?
That is the accumulation of yellow cards which leads to
a ban. And yeah, if you get a couple in
the Euros. I think that because normally they wipe the
slate clean after the after the group stages. You say, okay,
you can get too in the group stages, but then
everyone goes back to zero in the knockout stages. I
think they've included the quarter finals and the accumulation of
(08:27):
yellow cards at the Euros exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So. I saw another shocking one the other day. A
tackle on em Barpe, Portuguese player, perfectly legitimate, clean tackle,
got the ball only no starts up, no nothing, pretty
much balls on the floor, so it was his foot.
There was a yellow card and he was going to
miss the next game if Portugal had gone through. And
you're not allowed to appeal yellow cards. So there's a
(08:53):
massive problem in football at the moment with the adjudicating it.
Even under the VA it feels like they're getting way
more stuff wrong then they used to. So there was
a handball in the Spain Germany game, but I'm sure
I've seen that kind of handball. This is a shot
on target, by the way, not just out in the
far reaches of the of the penalty box. A shot
on target. Spanish guy has his hand in the way
(09:16):
and there's no penalty. That didn't even go to var
I don't think ye.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I saw that one too. I saw that one too. Yeah,
it's the inconsistency. The inconsistency is what is most frustrating.
I think in the Euros, whoever wins the Spain France
semi final probably wins it. I mean, yes, England, could
you know, mister magoo their way to it. As you say,
the Netherlands on their day can can do things. But
I just think Spain, well, I actually think Spain will
(09:41):
win it. But whoever wins Spain France I think wins it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I totally agree with you, mate, and France looking
quite dodgy. And is it a case when you know
you've probably got extra time that you hold back your
stars and embarbe looks uncomfortable in his mask. I just
let him start on the bench and give him the
final hour rather than the first hour if you're assuming
it's going to go the extra time. And I'd even
say the same with Grisman. The team looks better with
(10:06):
him out there, but then he can only really last
an hour in those conditions. So anyway, something for Dave
Schamp to think about. But also just as well, I
think it's great let's applaud Razor for his first win
and just say the Blues WhatsApp group they would have
been would have been pinging off last night when the
All Blacks are in trouble with support for Hoskins, and
(10:26):
I'm sure someone probably added Razor into the group chat
there for a bit, you know, just to troll them.
But now they can they can calm down for another week.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good man, and we'll chat to you in a week
from today as well. James. Always love chatting to you, mate.
James mcconey big part of our Sunday afternoons here on
Weekend Sport, follow him on socials, listen to him and
the Alternative commentary collective and across the crowd goes wild
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk zb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And about this time every Sunday afternoon we get the
pleasure of the company of James mconey, which we do
right now.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hello mate, kid, Hey poney, how are you? What a game?
What a big game?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I loved it. I loved it, I really did. I.
I don't mean to compare, but I watched the Wallabees
Whales game afterwards and that was a bit underwhelming compared
to what happened under the roof and Denedin.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
For me, yeah, it was lame. It was a proper
test match last night, so enthralling the drama with d mac.
I totally agree with dmak about a shot clock. There
needs to be a shot clock. But also I'm just
wondering whether I don't blame him for smiling. I know
it's triggering for some people seeing all black smiling, but
maybe you can't do a full blown smile. Maybe it
(00:54):
needs to be like a Mona Lisa smile, just a smirk, just.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
A little, just a little grin. You would have seen
this as well. You would have been at grounds where
Damien McKenzie is taking kicks and he's on the big screen.
When he smiles, everybody cheers.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's part of his routine. I'm not going to stop him.
He's a bloody good goalkicker. Although there are a few
that were missed last night and also by Marcus Smith.
But it does put the pressure on tea delivery. I
was thinking, you can't have a prop doing that. It's
either going to be Caleb Clarke or a Morning Nadawa,
or we just get in someone like you know, Joseph Miller,
New Zealand's fastest man, just as a tea tea boy.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Like Idio sign Katia. He could come back from his
fledgling NFL career and basically the tea. So you're basically
you could put some starting blocks on the sideline and
out you go.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, far side of the field sideline conversion, I mean,
or even any sideline kick. That tea is going to
get out there fast. That's that's a seventy meter sprint there,
and you can't have anybody like lumbering over there. No
disrespect to our props, but hey, you know, although to
Mysy Williams did look quite quick to the Chiefs, maybe
he could do it. But yeah, maybe maybe delivery is key.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Absolutely it is key. Hey, England will be I don't
think they'll be necessarily kicking themselves, but they will be
thinking about a blown opportunity today, won't they.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Absolutely, that's the one that got away. I totally agree
with Liam Napier and some of your callers there who
were just you know, looking at thinking wow, there was
there were moments there and it's still cold of right
at the end that that penalty could have gone either
way right on full time. So England will be gutted.
They look like a work in progress as well. I mean,
Finn Baxter looks about twelve years old. The giant chairup
(02:46):
who's playing a reserve prop for them to see them.
But they also have people like you know that Dan
Cole is thirty seven years old, so they sort of,
I guess, trying to shore up that the scrum. And
that's I thought where the All Blacks excelled and put
pressure on in the last cour or. But up until
(03:07):
then I would say that England looked the better side.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I agree, I think, and I think for large parts
of the game, if you were going to break it
down with you know, forensic deep and forensic detail, I
think they probably shagged it in a lot of areas
and sixteen fifteen tells the story of that. You know,
Marcus Smith, I really like him, by the way. I
think he's a really good player. But he missed a
couple of shots of goal one in particular, which was
(03:33):
fairly handy.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah well, I mean Owen Pharrell would have splotted those.
But I like Marcus Smith, and even though Borthwick probably
doesn't see him as his number one first five, I
think England needs to keep stick with that Marcus Smith.
I've got to persevere with him because otherwise they go
back to boring old England. I don't think that makes
them competitive against teams like the All Blacks. So yes
(03:57):
to Marcus Smith, used to Chamber Cunningham South who went
to Hambleton Boys High and Lincoln University apparently and playing
blind so for England were exceptional. But in the final
quarter I just think the All Blacks bench was a
bit stronger. Softwhal Moor excellent, Boden Barrett really solid and clever,
(04:17):
Fletcher Newle as well kept the pressure on in the scrum,
and Luke Jacobson. They all studied the ship really but
we have to be honest, as all Blacks fans and
media rarely that this is a new era with Razor.
We've got to give them time. I don't think we
should be concerned if there is a loss against England.
(04:39):
But you know, because I was looking thinking, well, the
lineouts are shambles, so you've got no metallic or white lock,
and then you know the back line was a bit clunky,
and of course you're missing Aaron Smith, so and even
the defense of Sam Kine. I think we are missing
top players. This is a new era.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Speaking of time, are the Warriors running out of it
a little bit? To make the eight?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Do you know what they missed? That was tough yesterday
because they they did enough to win, but didn't quite
have the finish that they needed. And I'm gud when
it comes down to drop goals. You just haven't got
one person who spends their whole life and that's all
they care about. But I was so excited to see
(05:22):
Leka Hala Sima, the eighteen year old from Tonga, normally
a forward, second row sometimes front row, playing in the senders.
Did you see him? Phoney?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I did, I did, I've watched I didn't watch the
entire game. I was getting ready for the rugby, but
I've watched some highlights, and yeah, I love it when
you see it, when you see a guy you've never
heard of, really and they seize their chance.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And we've been talking about this on your show, Piney,
about filling that boyd in the Warriors, a big line breaking,
side stepping, attacking threats from anywhere in the field. And
when I say you know side stepping as well, I
mean not just a person who can change direction quickly.
I mean like he feigned one way, dipped the shoulder,
basically broke the defender's ankles as they say at that
(06:06):
Bulldog on as Bum And I was just like, I'm
not praying to get going off. I know I am.
I am prone to going off at the DP, but
I'm saying right now, Piney, a star is born. And
to quote Lady Gaga, it's like, tell me something, boy,
are you trying hard to fill that bored and you
(06:27):
are more scored? You're the center we've been looking for.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I know I do, and I love the way you've
articulated yourself through song. Can I just ask you about
the Europe.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's exciting to see it is.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah. I got up. I set my larm this morning
to get up to watch England play Switzerland and the Euros.
England won on penalties, which actually hasn't always been the case.
That was sort of almost turned up in the semi
finals by accident, haven't they England?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, this is weird. It's like they've missed magoo their
way through every single phase of play, although there have
been moments of brilliance and they really Garris Southgate owes
a lot to Jude beelling them for the overhead in
the previous game and then the overhead kick, and then
now he's got bacay Osaka who's kind of been trying
(07:26):
as much as he can to sort of do something
with his England team. I saw him make one run
and crossed it into the area and Harry Kane was
nowhere to be seen. Did you see that pony I did?
That is weird to me. There's something wrong with this
England team. But they are in the semis They're going
to play the Dutch and they're probably lucky they are
playing them because I think Spain looked really good. Yeah,
(07:50):
they're a little bit annoying and they dive all over
the place, but so does everybody. My big issue though
is yellow cards, and I mentioned it last week. Yellow
cards are still a problem, pony. Don't you think the
incorrect yellow cards is what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right? I was running what the other part about it is?
That is the accumulation of yellow cards which leads to
a ban. And yeah, if you get a couple in
the Euros. I think that because normally they wipe the
slate clean after the after the group stages. You say, okay,
you can get too in the group stages, but then
everyone goes back to zero in the knockout stages. I
think they've included the quarter finals and the accumulation of
(08:27):
yellow cards at the Euros exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So. I saw another shocking one the other day. A
tackle on em Barpe, Portuguese player, perfectly legitimate, clean tackle,
got the ball only no starts up, no nothing, pretty
much balls on the floor, so it was his foot.
There was a yellow card and he was going to
miss the next game if Portugal had gone through. And
you're not allowed to appeal yellow cards. So there's a
(08:53):
massive problem in football at the moment with the adjudicating it.
Even under the VA it feels like they're getting way
more stuff wrong then they used to. So there was
a handball in the Spain Germany game, but I'm sure
I've seen that kind of handball. This is a shot
on target, by the way, not just out in the
far reaches of the of the penalty box. A shot
on target. Spanish guy has his hand in the way
(09:16):
and there's no penalty. That didn't even go to var
I don't think ye.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I saw that one too. I saw that one too. Yeah,
it's the inconsistency. The inconsistency is what is most frustrating.
I think in the Euros, whoever wins the Spain France
semi final probably wins it. I mean, yes, England, could
you know, mister magoo their way to it. As you say,
the Netherlands on their day can can do things. But
I just think Spain, well, I actually think Spain will
(09:41):
win it. But whoever wins Spain France I think wins it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I totally agree with you, mate, and France looking
quite dodgy. And is it a case when you know
you've probably got extra time that you hold back your
stars and embarbe looks uncomfortable in his mask. I just
let him start on the bench and give him the
final hour rather than the first hour if you're assuming
it's going to go the extra time. And I'd even
say the same with Grisman. The team looks better with
(10:06):
him out there, but then he can only really last
an hour in those conditions. So anyway, something for Dave
Schamp to think about. But also just as well, I
think it's great let's applaud Razor for his first win
and just say the Blues WhatsApp group they would have
been would have been pinging off last night when the
All Blacks are in trouble with support for Hoskins, and
(10:26):
I'm sure someone probably added Razor into the group chat
there for a bit, you know, just to troll them.
But now they can they can calm down for another week.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good man, and we'll chat to you in a week
from today as well. James. Always love chatting to you, mate.
James mcconey big part of our Sunday afternoons here on
Weekend Sport, follow him on socials, listen to him and
the Alternative commentary collective and across the crowd goes wild
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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