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July 14, 2024 • 12 mins

The Crowd Goes Wild host James McOnie joined Piney to discuss the All Blacks' victory over England, the latest with the 2024 Euros, Wimbledon, and the upcoming 2024 Olympics.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine
from News Talk zed B.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Casting from the Auckland studio today. Normally I'm in Wellington,
but part of the attraction of coming to Auckland an
all Blacks tests. But James mcconey face to face, I
think Trump's it.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh you think that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And speaking of Trump, actually.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Here we should mention that we should probably mention that.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah. Well just on that the assassination attempt on former
President Donald Trump this afternoon, the latest in our news
at two. It's great to see you, mate. What did
you make of last night?

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, last night, let's be honest, Boden saved us and
I think you and your callers have said as much, right.
And the other thing is that did he just come
up with a really good name for a segment on
your show? He's talked about Time on the Pine.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, I heard that. Actually I only picked it up
later when I listened back Time on the Pine.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Time on the Pine. Can we make it a segment?
I thought? Boden showed just.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
How great at rugby he is. Here's the World Rugby
Player of the Year twice in a row. So if
you break down what he's done in his career, he's
been moved around. I feel like he should have been
given an opportunity just to wear the number ten jersey,
a bit like Stephen Larkham a non goal kicking first five.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Why didn't we.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Just say, hey, that's where we see you. But look,
things have happened. Richie wong A is world class as well,
but having him around in the squad means that I
think not only is he a legitimate option to perhaps
start at fifteen, but also ten.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's funny, isn't it, because then you think, okay, well,
if he provides the impact off the pine as he
did last night every night he plays, then that's a
great use of him. But that was kind of early.
That was Steve Hanson Boden, wasn't it the best impact
player in the world. So it's really hard to know
is it better to have him with a ten or
of fifteen on or is the twenty three the right
one for him?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
When you look at impact players around the place, there
are some who have been world class, like Connor Murray
for Ireland. So there are coaches who aren't shy or
moving a legend. I guess if you like onto the bench.
But we even saw that happen in football, right Gresman Star. Yes,
it was on the bench for France the other week.
And I think more coaches are starting to realize that

(02:12):
final quarter is so crucial. If the way Boden turned
the game, there's some Freakis skill there. The only thing
he did wrong was overcooked slightly by four centimeters of
crosskick that could have resulted in a try and then
but seeing that impact though that the All Blacks needed
to rely on, that does highlight that really this test

(02:32):
was there for England to take and perhaps they blew it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I agree Cortes.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I liked him, Yes, agreed Cortez.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So happy for him to come on as snappy, really
good half back, play direct.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And just decisive.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Shadesvaran Smith about the way he sort of goes about
his business a little bit combative as well. So I
thought Cortiz was great. There were other good players who
sort of all chipped in. But I guess the big
worry is the line out seems to be a bit
of a shambles. R R Locks a bit too heavy
to lift all the time. I mean, we haven't got

(03:09):
Sam white Lock and Brady Brittalick. You just fling in
the air like a Bulgarian circus troop.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
But they're bigger men, aren't they than Scott Barrett and
Patrick Twey pilot.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
To not as heavy as I mean, Look they lifted Artie.
Look this is Ardie Savier is about six foot one,
just maybe one hundred kilos, perhaps ringing wet, and he
was looked like a pretty good lineout option and probably
was our best ball carry of the day. He just
went and went classic Ardie. But that's where I was
looking at, going where are the ball carriers? Where's the safety,

(03:43):
the security in the line out? There's a lot to
work on, and I think Jason Ryan in particular will
have his hands full.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Indeed, all right, all blacks fig next Saturday Tomorrow morning,
seven o'clock New Zealand time final of Euro twenty twenty four.
England against all expectation, up against Spain.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
What happens here, England will just be running around after them.
It's like that game was Scrag where you know, the
let's just say that the standard four kids let the
juniors sort of come along and play, you know, and
they just sort of hold them at bay and they're
running this sort of the playground because really Spain are
a level above. But for years Spain have been what

(04:20):
I described as beautiful but bland, and now that's changed.
So they've got the sixteen year old playing who you
can probably tell us about as well, Yamal. Yes, so
he's sixteen and starting for them as well, isn't he?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think he is.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think in fact, I think today might be his
seventeenth birthday. So yeah, but even but I mean, that
doesn't make him a veteran, does it. But like I
think of my son as sixteen, yeah, and I mean,
with no disrespect to him, I can't see him starting
for Spain. You're not Spanish for starters.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
This is disrespect to your son, because what are you doing?
There's a sixteen year old starting for Spain. But also
they've got Nico Williams, this exciting winger who plays for
Athletico bill Bao I think, which is not even one
of the big clubs, pretty big, but he's come along
and given them a bit more direction as well. Suddenly
Spain looks so dangerous. I can't see England winning it

(05:11):
in regulation, although look, stranger things have happened. The one
thing that I look at though, and you say, okay,
you've got rodri who's just one of a genius holding
midfielder like Spain have always had these guys like Bisquits
and Shabby Alonso wasn't too shabby.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And then now he's up.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Against Declan Rice and it just doesn't seem like a
fair fight.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I wonder that though, you know, I look at Declan
Rice and I wonder whether he might just be the
kind of guy who will just get into Rodery's air
and give him a couple of elbows and find a way.
Because it just feels so odd, it doesn't it, particularly
given the way England played early in this tournament. You
know that they're in the final. It's if you crystallize
it down to one game, this could be a tournament
that England wins in the ninety fourth minute off their

(05:56):
backside totally.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And look, Jude Bellingham is going to be an all
time great he's in the midfield for England. It showed
really that Gareth Southgate is a little bit sort of
just feeling as way I always say that that he's
missed the magoot his way through this tournament. Nothing's really worked.
And then suddenly chucks on Oli Watkins and he scores
a goal, the villa striker. So really, I think it'll

(06:20):
probably come down to the subspech for England if they can,
because you're never quite sure who's going to fire for them.
And to be honest, if Foden has the game of
his life, he could end it, you know, for England.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
So there's enough talent there. It's exciting. Yeah, seven am,
I'll be up, and so will you, Pony.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Absolutely I will be. Wimbledon's all done and dusted for
I know, almost all done and dusted for another year.
The men singles final to come. Do you like Wimbledon
amongst all the majors, the grass, the strawberries and cream,
that the tradition.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I remember the tradition.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
My dad would wake me up and would watch Wimberlin
and I was loved beyond Borg, Martina and Evertulova, Helena
Sikov she in tears. I think when I was younger,
I can't remember anyway. Look, here's so much drama, pomp
and ceremony. Then you realize that it's a little bit
a little bit full of themselves, with royals prancing around
and all that's the thing, but hey, it adds to it.

(07:08):
Cliff Richards singing in the rain delay. But the best
thing now is okay, the women's final has been decided
and crazy COVID fair play. She was really good. Lilu
soon could have almost he got there to the final
and from New Zealand from Toweranna shout out down South.
But this is really big. Al KaAZ against Djokovic. This

(07:28):
will decide whether the torch is being passed or the
bat and because you know, al Karaz is the defending champ,
but Jokovic has won plenty there so it's a must
watch as well.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, there's there's not a lot of time to sleep
at the moment, is there? Even after last nights All
Blacks Test, there was Wallabies Wiles. Then I kind of
pushed through to South Africa Island and there's all sorts
of other things to watch and in amongst all of
that coming up over the next month or so, we've
got the Olympics in Paris. Yes, I mean, I'm not
going to get any sleep, but you're going to be there.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I will be there.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I will be filing for you, pony dutifully from the
banks of the very smelly River Senne, which is apparently
for of a human extraiment, but I've heard that our
triathletes have vowed to swim on undeterred. Sorry, mate, we
probably should go to a break there. But the thing is,
what I will say is I don't want to talk

(08:19):
about the Poohs and the Seine. I did want to
talk about maybe Middless who you didn't think. It'll be
a few surprise meddleists, And I think they're going to
come in the pool and in track and field, so
look out for Obviously we've got Erica Fairweather and Lewis Clarebert,
who we're thinking, yeah, they nailed on medalists, but look
out for Hazel our hand one hundred meters butterfly six

(08:40):
foot two. She's from Tao Mutu represent she could surprise.
And I think Tory Peters in the javelin is a
chance as well to meddle in our athletics team. I
don't think i've seen it this strong. Look, we don't
have a Dame Vale who you say, yes that she's
gonna she's gonna win. We'll go close, But I can't
see I've never seen this this many metal hopes and

(09:03):
our athletics team.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I totally agree. Even James Preston just broke the eight
hundred meter record national record that Sir Peter Snell had
for ever. He's I mean, even Sam Tanner, you know,
I know the fifteen hundred meters is a stacked field.
Sam Tanner, you know, he's got to be a chance.
And then Hamish Kurg just jumped two thirty three and
the Diamond League in Monaco in the last couple of days.

(09:25):
He's got to be a chance on the high jump.
There's all these gotta be in there, Beamish exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
And so he's going to run the steeple chase and
that's going to be fascinating to see how he goes there.
Zoe Hobbs obviously, Tom Walsh and Jack O'Gill yep, both
medal chances. Really we've got three pole vaulters led by
Eliza McCartney. This is an incredible team. So and it's
great because it's still the main event really, although that
and break.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Dancing, yeah, breakdown and speed climbing as well. Julian David
our Mail at the Olympics broke the Oceania record this morning.
Hard to commentate the climbing because it's all over in
about six seconds.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, exactly reminds me of some events from my teenage years.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
But yes, yeah, very very tough.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
To commentate, and you wouldn't want to look. I know
we had a caller who didn't like the acc recently,
and I'd just like to say I totally agree with him.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It is disgraceful and.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I should know because I'm part of that commentary group
and we will be passing on your concerns and we're
not going to walk away from this. Thank you for
your feedback and we appreciate it. So yeah, thank you.
You walk towards the feedback, Yes, absolutely, And I'll tell
you one thing, speaking of things walking towards, what is

(10:39):
England grubber kicking all the time? That was my other
note for you, Piney. They only grub a kick if
the defense is totally coming towards you, then you know
there's a little bit of gap. But if everyone's running
towards the grubber kick, like the pump alonner running of
the bulls, then it's a stupid kick. And they did
about three or four times. And I'm not blaming Marcus
Smith because we both like the cut of his jib.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
We do we like the cut of Marcus Smith's jib
very much. Indeed, I think that's us.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I think that's us.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Probably a shout out for Aaron Ratliffe having made the
final of the women's doubles at Wimbledon. She'll team up
with Lulu Sauna. If we're talking Olympic chances. Who knows
we've got a bronze medal in the men's doubles last time,
Aaron Ratliffe, Lulusawn and the women's doubles this time.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, there are good chants exactly. So this is the
whole thing.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's going to be on sky Wall toward it's going
to be on Sky Open, which is the old prime channel.
So if you I mean the Olympics, sometimes you think, ah,
there's so many distractions, but the Olympics is one time
when you almost hibernate watching sport and it's a wonderful thing.
Well fifteen sixteen days of action and then you can
go back to your normal life.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Indeed, yep, now get into it and if you can't
get the chance to watch it, then listen to it
on Gold Sport and News Talks edb as well. Great
to see you mate.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Cheers mate, Yes, forgot about Gold Sport, Yes, and don't
forget Sky Okay, goodbyes.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Good James.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
James mccony huge part of our Sundays around about this
time every Sunday on Weekend Sports.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
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