September 28, 2024 • 10 mins
James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss All Blacks' victory, Liam Lawson's next challenge, the NRL season, the Black Caps' progress and the AFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What a weekend of sport. It's been on both sides
of the Tasman lost to chat about and well when
I want to chat sport and normally just ring one number.
Sometimes he answers, sometimes he doesn't, but he's here today.
James McConney, Hello, mate.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You know Pony always here for your mates.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's good to hear all blacks. Let's start there. What
did you make of it last night?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, it felt like a coach's game to me, you know,
making the changes, putting things in place and watching them
come to fruition. But I'd like to highlight four players,
if I may, Pony, please, Let's start off with Boden Barrett,
who looked great at number ten, running the cutter, kicking well,
tackling Well's passing game was on point. But I liked
(00:54):
it even more when David McKenzie was on the field.
So I'm only a double pivot guy if both those
pivots can run like the wind. Okay, but all right,
I thought Boden was great yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, and enjoyed his steady hand.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I did, yeah, and look, Richie Moonger might return, you know,
Harry Godfrey might emerge as a great team soon. He
looks the goods doesn't even though he's playing fullback. But
for now we've got two great options. So I was
just happy for Boden the actually happy for Dmac to
come on and set up that nice try for Caleb.
So that was good. The next one, Wallace a TT
(01:29):
I thought was mat unreal. It just showing his Test class,
but also the footwork and offloads, and I think i've
seen a big loose forward with those dancing feet. You know,
maybe Ardie, but he's smaller, right, This is like a
big unit up there. Just he looks like he's going
(01:49):
to have a long and distinguished Test career. So he
was best in showing for me.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, and apparently the league scouts are already on to
him and you can see why. So yeah, I think
New Zealand Rugby would be best advised to lock him
up for a little while. Not yeah, not literally, but
you know, to to give him, give him a new
to give us and that would be the right thing
to do, to give him a new contract.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Block him and Eddie is yeah, that's right, that's right.
Antoninet Brown I thought made a huge impact in midfield
is passing the support and vision that they were all elite,
but also the bread and butter things, you know, like
the ball, security, tackles clean out, providing an option at
all times. I reckon that somehow it just feels right
(02:36):
when Anton is in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's played every Test this year. I worked out this morning.
He's only started three, including last night, but it's been
off the bench in the other six. So he is
one of only five players who's been involved in all
nine Test matches this year. And I think he does
provide a nice security and a bit of glue around
this team.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, he's totally He's the glue. He's the dead horse
of the team if you will. But Sam Cain as
well needs he needs his flowers pony. I mean, I
think he's one of the greats. He should have been
a World Cup winning captain if it wasn't for that
Pierski red card and a couple of things going, you know,
if Geordie had nailed that kick. But he's captain the
(03:19):
All Blacks in an era where all our rivals apart
from Australia, have been peeking so losses were going to occur.
But also following on from the goat Richie mccaor like
I've said before, I think it's like following Freddy Murcury
at Live Aid. So what can you do? Well, you
just do the best that you can. And in his
case it's defense. That is one half of the game,
(03:41):
and I think he's been the best at that and
another quarter of the game a breakdown. So I mean
you can't fault his work there, especially cleaning rucks. He
attends so many breakdowns, So I think he's made others
look better and that's probably one of the great things
about him. And it does sound even Raiser was saying
that his leadership is important. He's a sheriff, he's a
(04:01):
straight shooter, and I think the All Blacks have needed them.
He just didn't get the ultimate reward of a World
Cup win.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a very good point
and I think, yeah, Razor has made that point. He
didn't know Sam Kine, well, of course he didn't before
he came into the All Blacks, but he says he's
learned a lot about him and gained enormous respect. And
you can tell how much the players there respect him.
I do note though, that in the players you've mentioned,
most of them are chiefs.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, and you didn't even mention to who I thought
was good too.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
How good is his skill set? Just setting things up? Well,
that's why I put myself on a four chief limit.
So I've reached my clothure.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I sorry, yeah, sorry too poor, Sorry Cortez, Sorry Luke Jacobson.
You don't get You don't get to mention to David.
Maybe next week you will.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, if I started mentioning the undersized chiefs, you know
we'd be here all night?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Can we can?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Do you want to anything more than all blacks? Do
I want to ask about Liam Lawson? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Liam Lawson, let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, we just had we just had Rick Thompson before.
I just worry because red Bull seemed like the kind
of organization that, you know, might just cheer you up
and spit you out, but he seems like a fairly
level headed Chapleeam Lawson, you reckon, It'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, that's what I'm the only thing I'm worried about.
I think. I mean, he's been rewarded for his talent,
not his connections, although I feel like being from Pocacoe
or South Auckland is a bit like going to Duke
University before getting into the NBA. You know, it's motor
racing central, it's a nursery. But I remember him being
run off the road by that South African driver when
he was about to win the European Touring Car Champs,
(05:39):
and he flew off the handle, and I was happy
for him to actually fire up and tell him that
it was dirty Paul. And I think he's going to
be prepared to stand his ground in Formula one because
I think the biggest problem with Brendan Hartley, another lovely bloke,
is that he was constantly tormented and bullied by his
team teammate Pierre Ghastly. And can you remember that, Pony.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, yes, I remember it.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, yeah, Ghastly is an appropriate name because he Gasly
was gaslighting Hartley the whole time, accusing him of almost
killing him when Hartley stored on the track once and
he had to swerve to miss him, and he gave
this emotional press conference. He didn't even touch the guy
and it was like he was going, Oh, I thought
I was going to die. So ghastly is a mass
(06:26):
of tossa so I hope that Lawson beats him for
starters and also confronts anyone who tries to give him
any of those that sort of Shenanigan's.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I just can't. Yeah, absolutely can't. It seems like
a sport of massive egos to me, but Liam Lawson
seems to be without one, whether you know, whether it's
it's you know, comes across as a quite confidence more
than anything. I mean, I get the feeling he's he's
got a bit about him. But yeah, there's a lot
of egos by the looks of it, and formula one
and I guess, you know, I guess maybe that's part
(06:58):
of reaching the top. I'm not sure. Hey, NRL, the
storm hammered the Roosters, the Panthers took a bit longer
to succumb the Sharks. But we've got the Grand Final
we all wanted, haven't we.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, it's the blockbuster Final. There's a lot to like.
I always love it when the key is everywhere, and
of course plenty in the Melbourne Storm. Watching Eli car
tour is quite triggering for me seeing a former warrior
do so well. But sometimes you know, that that change
of scenery was what was needed for their career. It's
a bit like Malaco for Kutur going down to the Highlanders.
(07:32):
You know, you just know that they needed that change
of scenery to reach that peak. But having said that,
jar runs Hughes against Nathan Cleary, I mean that is just,
you know, tantalizing, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Absolutely now watering? Yeah, can't wait for that. So that's
next Sunday, so week tonight the NRL Grand Final, but
yesterday the AFL Grand Final at the g the iconic
Melbourne Cricket Ground. Did you get eyes on this?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yes? I did. It was an absolute blowout winter Brisbane.
And of course that is a problem because it was
Brisbane versus Sydney, so sports like rugby, it's a bit
of a dagger for them having two of those two
of those cities represented in an AFL final. However, Sydney
was spent by I think sixty points or something like that.
(08:21):
It was crazy that I think maybe they might turn
back to the rugby codes after that. But the one
thing I did want to raise was Katie Perry and
look Piney. She was pretty good in the pregame show.
Awesome voice didn't seem like it was totally lipstick. She
wasn't doing the Milli Vanellia or anything. And on her
(08:41):
playlist she sang raw great song, she sang firework, absolute banger,
and she even sang California Girls. You know, but where
where it was hot and cold?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I've got to ask you the book song it relates
to sports and as a massive hit, it is an
absolute banger. You don't go out there instant one of
your unknown recent songs, which she did, and you lead
out a hip like that that is not on brief, Kadie,
stick to the brief.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The brief was banger's ondly, wasn't it. I think she
would have gone away with my yea beggars only hot
and cold? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Where are you to listen to this? I mean that's
one of the great It's coming soon if you're allow it.
Thank you for having me today.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Good on you, James. You hold there. Let's listen to
this banger of a chorus for a bit. It's coming
see that would have worked well if the chorus actually came.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I think it's coming now here it goes
Speaker 1 (10:19):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine listen live
to news talks it be weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What a weekend of sport. It's been on both sides
of the Tasman lost to chat about and well when
I want to chat sport and normally just ring one number.
Sometimes he answers, sometimes he doesn't, but he's here today.
James McConney, Hello, mate.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You know Pony always here for your mates.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's good to hear all blacks. Let's start there. What
did you make of it last night?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, it felt like a coach's game to me, you know,
making the changes, putting things in place and watching them
come to fruition. But I'd like to highlight four players,
if I may, Pony, please, Let's start off with Boden Barrett,
who looked great at number ten, running the cutter, kicking well,
tackling Well's passing game was on point. But I liked
(00:54):
it even more when David McKenzie was on the field.
So I'm only a double pivot guy if both those
pivots can run like the wind. Okay, but all right,
I thought Boden was great yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, and enjoyed his steady hand.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I did, yeah, and look, Richie Moonger might return, you know,
Harry Godfrey might emerge as a great team soon. He
looks the goods doesn't even though he's playing fullback. But
for now we've got two great options. So I was
just happy for Boden the actually happy for Dmac to
come on and set up that nice try for Caleb.
So that was good. The next one, Wallace a TT
(01:29):
I thought was mat unreal. It just showing his Test class,
but also the footwork and offloads, and I think i've
seen a big loose forward with those dancing feet. You know,
maybe Ardie, but he's smaller, right, This is like a
big unit up there. Just he looks like he's going
(01:49):
to have a long and distinguished Test career. So he
was best in showing for me.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, and apparently the league scouts are already on to
him and you can see why. So yeah, I think
New Zealand Rugby would be best advised to lock him
up for a little while. Not yeah, not literally, but
you know, to to give him, give him a new
to give us and that would be the right thing
to do, to give him a new contract.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Block him and Eddie is yeah, that's right, that's right.
Antoninet Brown I thought made a huge impact in midfield
is passing the support and vision that they were all elite,
but also the bread and butter things, you know, like
the ball, security, tackles clean out, providing an option at
all times. I reckon that somehow it just feels right
(02:36):
when Anton is in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's played every Test this year. I worked out this morning.
He's only started three, including last night, but it's been
off the bench in the other six. So he is
one of only five players who's been involved in all
nine Test matches this year. And I think he does
provide a nice security and a bit of glue around
this team.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, he's totally He's the glue. He's the dead horse
of the team if you will. But Sam Cain as
well needs he needs his flowers pony. I mean, I
think he's one of the greats. He should have been
a World Cup winning captain if it wasn't for that
Pierski red card and a couple of things going, you know,
if Geordie had nailed that kick. But he's captain the
(03:19):
All Blacks in an era where all our rivals apart
from Australia, have been peeking so losses were going to occur.
But also following on from the goat Richie mccaor like
I've said before, I think it's like following Freddy Murcury
at Live Aid. So what can you do? Well, you
just do the best that you can. And in his
case it's defense. That is one half of the game,
(03:41):
and I think he's been the best at that and
another quarter of the game a breakdown. So I mean
you can't fault his work there, especially cleaning rucks. He
attends so many breakdowns, So I think he's made others
look better and that's probably one of the great things
about him. And it does sound even Raiser was saying
that his leadership is important. He's a sheriff, he's a
(04:01):
straight shooter, and I think the All Blacks have needed them.
He just didn't get the ultimate reward of a World
Cup win.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a very good point
and I think, yeah, Razor has made that point. He
didn't know Sam Kine, well, of course he didn't before
he came into the All Blacks, but he says he's
learned a lot about him and gained enormous respect. And
you can tell how much the players there respect him.
I do note though, that in the players you've mentioned,
most of them are chiefs.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, and you didn't even mention to who I thought
was good too.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
How good is his skill set? Just setting things up? Well,
that's why I put myself on a four chief limit.
So I've reached my clothure.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I sorry, yeah, sorry too poor, Sorry Cortez, Sorry Luke Jacobson.
You don't get You don't get to mention to David.
Maybe next week you will.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, if I started mentioning the undersized chiefs, you know
we'd be here all night?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Can we can?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Do you want to anything more than all blacks? Do
I want to ask about Liam Lawson? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Liam Lawson, let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, we just had we just had Rick Thompson before.
I just worry because red Bull seemed like the kind
of organization that, you know, might just cheer you up
and spit you out, but he seems like a fairly
level headed Chapleeam Lawson, you reckon, It'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, that's what I'm the only thing I'm worried about.
I think. I mean, he's been rewarded for his talent,
not his connections, although I feel like being from Pocacoe
or South Auckland is a bit like going to Duke
University before getting into the NBA. You know, it's motor
racing central, it's a nursery. But I remember him being
run off the road by that South African driver when
he was about to win the European Touring Car Champs,
(05:39):
and he flew off the handle, and I was happy
for him to actually fire up and tell him that
it was dirty Paul. And I think he's going to
be prepared to stand his ground in Formula one because
I think the biggest problem with Brendan Hartley, another lovely bloke,
is that he was constantly tormented and bullied by his
team teammate Pierre Ghastly. And can you remember that, Pony.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, yes, I remember it.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, yeah, Ghastly is an appropriate name because he Gasly
was gaslighting Hartley the whole time, accusing him of almost
killing him when Hartley stored on the track once and
he had to swerve to miss him, and he gave
this emotional press conference. He didn't even touch the guy
and it was like he was going, Oh, I thought
I was going to die. So ghastly is a mass
(06:26):
of tossa so I hope that Lawson beats him for
starters and also confronts anyone who tries to give him
any of those that sort of Shenanigan's.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I just can't. Yeah, absolutely can't. It seems like
a sport of massive egos to me, but Liam Lawson
seems to be without one, whether you know, whether it's
it's you know, comes across as a quite confidence more
than anything. I mean, I get the feeling he's he's
got a bit about him. But yeah, there's a lot
of egos by the looks of it, and formula one
and I guess, you know, I guess maybe that's part
(06:58):
of reaching the top. I'm not sure. Hey, NRL, the
storm hammered the Roosters, the Panthers took a bit longer
to succumb the Sharks. But we've got the Grand Final
we all wanted, haven't we.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, it's the blockbuster Final. There's a lot to like.
I always love it when the key is everywhere, and
of course plenty in the Melbourne Storm. Watching Eli car
tour is quite triggering for me seeing a former warrior
do so well. But sometimes you know, that that change
of scenery was what was needed for their career. It's
a bit like Malaco for Kutur going down to the Highlanders.
(07:32):
You know, you just know that they needed that change
of scenery to reach that peak. But having said that,
jar runs Hughes against Nathan Cleary, I mean that is just,
you know, tantalizing, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Absolutely now watering? Yeah, can't wait for that. So that's
next Sunday, so week tonight the NRL Grand Final, but
yesterday the AFL Grand Final at the g the iconic
Melbourne Cricket Ground. Did you get eyes on this?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yes? I did. It was an absolute blowout winter Brisbane.
And of course that is a problem because it was
Brisbane versus Sydney, so sports like rugby, it's a bit
of a dagger for them having two of those two
of those cities represented in an AFL final. However, Sydney
was spent by I think sixty points or something like that.
(08:21):
It was crazy that I think maybe they might turn
back to the rugby codes after that. But the one
thing I did want to raise was Katie Perry and
look Piney. She was pretty good in the pregame show.
Awesome voice didn't seem like it was totally lipstick. She
wasn't doing the Milli Vanellia or anything. And on her
(08:41):
playlist she sang raw great song, she sang firework, absolute banger,
and she even sang California Girls. You know, but where
where it was hot and cold?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I've got to ask you the book song it relates
to sports and as a massive hit, it is an
absolute banger. You don't go out there instant one of
your unknown recent songs, which she did, and you lead
out a hip like that that is not on brief, Kadie,
stick to the brief.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The brief was banger's ondly, wasn't it. I think she
would have gone away with my yea beggars only hot
and cold? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Where are you to listen to this? I mean that's
one of the great It's coming soon if you're allow it.
Thank you for having me today.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Good on you, James. You hold there. Let's listen to
this banger of a chorus for a bit. It's coming
see that would have worked well if the chorus actually came.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I think it's coming now here it goes
Speaker 1 (10:19):
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