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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey is here, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Mate, good a piney house things.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Couple of good quarterfinals on the Bunnings MPC yesterday. Bay
of Plenty nineteen, Hawks Bay seventeen. So Bay of Plenty
are the real Bay?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah? Apparently they are the real Bay? Sing it you
from the mountaintops from Mount Manga Nui. It is they
are the Bay and two cliffhangers really, but that one
there when you see how good Hawks Bay are in
terms of personnel, and obviously Harry Godfrey is scoring an
absolute worldy of a try. I saw your tweet saying
(00:48):
Lockerman for the number fifteen jersey for the Canes with
Reuben Love at ten. But what about a switcher Roud?
What about Godbury at ten where he played all of
schoolboy rugby for Wan and New Collegiate.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're not the first person to suggest that, James, I
must say, after I did tweet that out, people see
you and I'll flip them around. Ruben Love obviously has
played mainly at fifteen. I think, in fact, almost exclusively
at fifteen for the Hurricanes. Yeah, I had heard that
Harry Godfrey was a fairly handy ten as well.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, so it could go that way. But it was
actually good to see the Steamers, you know, just get
it done and at home. I loved that boutique ground
at the Toad and that domain. But of course for me,
Piney big game was Tadanaki versus my Mulus and oh
my goodness, just the absolute game of two halves by
the way to show on Thursday nights on Sky Open
(01:38):
if you're interested. But it's just one of those ones
where I thought, Tardanaki, we're going to get that. They
just looked so strong in the second half and how
much it meant to them. Did you see Ricky rica
Telli joking back the tears in the postmatch interview. It's
awesome to see really that much feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I totally agree. I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And it was a yeah, weird old game was what
why I do? Fifteen mill ahead with about thirty minutes
to go, but then Tadannackey brought it back to what
fifteen fourteen? There was untill twenty to go. I actually
thought they were going to run over the top of
you guys, but no.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well innovative player as well from Barnsey the coach down there,
Neil Barnes having two half backs on the field so
they could pick and go cricket then or you know,
recycled the ball fast. It was incredible stuff. I love
to see it. Bradley Slater, who looks like a traditional
set of hooker with a little deaf chip and chase.
There was just a lot of things happening that were
(02:34):
kind quite strange. But I thought maybe what you could
put it down to is Aaron Crude and the old
Master running the cutter really nicely and maybe showing Josh
Jacob how to sort of win a game against all odds,
you know, just controlling the game at number ten.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Now, do you stay with me on this analogy? Do
you think that Canterbury feel a bit like Nathan McCullum
now and that they were a good cricketer growing up,
or Nathan was and then their younger brother Brendan came
through and just sort of usurp everything you'd done. Do
you think Canterbury feel that way about Tasman?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh good analogy? Yeah, well they must do. But now
the problem is when you're a city where you're the
home base for another team. I either Crusaders, they succeed
so much, you can it's the danger of just flying
under the raidar not actually being noticed, you know, Like
you could probably win an NPC and only get a
(03:30):
smattering of fans around the stadium. So that's probably just
living in the shadow of Razor's era with the Crusaders
hasn't helped them either. And you know what it's like
with Super Rugby, they just get players from wherever, you know,
like Raiser used to scour their landscape. Remember Fetukam or
Kame or Douglas. Yes it was a white cut or captain.
(03:52):
So this is what happens at Super Rugby. And I
think Tasman has really bolsted that Crusaders region and made
them so great, so they can take credit there yet.
But it is tough for them because I think every
side wants to beat Canterbury because they've been the standard bearer,
the benchmark for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Indeed, other matters around are Black Ferns thirty nine to
fourteen winners over France. That's a good end to what's
been I think by their standards are fairly mediocre. WXV
one campaign.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, it has been tough for them, and I actually
they played really well. Just watch them against France just
now on that you know, the artificial turf, which is
always weird and awkward, but anyway, it was a comfortable
win in the end. But what I thought was good
for them is that they actually got a bit of
heat from the media and the public. And what that
(04:45):
means is that people care about them deeply. You've got
to wear that as a badge of honor, pony, because
you know what it's like when the callers are just
all talking about the All Blacks or the Black Caps,
but suddenly when people start to take notice and argue
about who should be playing ten for the Black Ferns,
you know, all they need is to have a really
(05:06):
good number eight who's been left out, and maybe for
the coach to be scrutinized just as much. And you're
getting towards, you know, in the conversation, like the orb
next so good one.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I totally agree. It's engagement, isn't it. You know, it's
you know, not getting talked about is worse, isn't it.
You know, if people didn't really care, you know that
that's way worse. People are engaged I think in this team,
and that happened at the back end of what twenty
twenty two when they won the World Cup, and it
has continued and I think we will follow them with
great interest next year as they try to, you know,
(05:38):
try and win it again America's Cup. How are you
feeling about the America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm feeling bullish about it. I'm enjoying the fact that
our boat looks quite fast, which is I remember, didn't
that happen in San Francisco? Remember that? I still I'm
by that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It was.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, that was I mean, it has to be one
of the I guess the most I don't even know
what the right adjective, but yeah, like eight one ahead
and you lose nine to eight.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't, I don't. Yeah, outrageous is good.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I don't know the word choke necessarily because there's no there,
no way they were out there, you know, doing the
wrong things. It's just yeah, Jimmy Spittle just found a way,
found a way. Hey, Now next week. I just got
word yesterday that I might be doing the show next
Saturday from Mount Smart when Auckland FC have their opening
game of the of the of their life against Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Are you going to be along at this game?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Look, I can't make it. I'm working at a charity
event down in the White Cattle, but I will be
following it all the way. I've been at Auckland their
see trainings, have been doing stories with the players, have
met Jim or May from Uruguay who is completely perplexed
by the unpredictable Auckland weather, and I had to say
(06:57):
to him, sorry, yemo, it's not going to get much
better for you. It's always four seasons in one day
for most of the year, so you cannot plan for anything.
But look, I've just named another player as well, a
Colombian winger called Nada Moreno. I don't know any of
these players, Pineer. I will be honest, Okay, I don't
(07:18):
know any of the imports. But just by doing a
little bit of research you find that they've actually scoured
the globe rather nicely to get those players and to
fit with some fairly well established Kiwi names, you know,
with Alex Paulson and gold Tommy Smith, Nando Payneker in
the center of defense. So look, there is what you
(07:39):
call maybe a spine of Kiwi players, but the biggest
signing really is a Japanese player called Htorki Sakai who
played in three World Cups, including the upset victory over
Germany and the last World Cup which is a massive boilover.
So this guy is a genuine star superstar played for Marseilles.
So look, they've done quite well and thoroughly enjoy being
(08:01):
around Auckland, their sea, and have even met their answer
to yellow fever, the fan base known as the Port.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them in action. They've
sold out.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think they're going to sold the whole ground out,
but they've so they sold out the Port section fairly early.
What's their version of shirts off after eighty minutes going
to because they can't do the same thing? Have they
got their thing or will that do you think develop
organically as they.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Say, I'm assuming it will be pants down, you know.
I think that has to be the opposite of the phoenix,
So we will see pants on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I don't know, Pony, I think they haven't. Look, I've
been writing songs for them. They haven't actually asked me
to contribute at all, but you know, I've just thought, hey,
look I'm keen to get on the song sheets somehow,
and I was thinking, well, you've got Nando Panickers, so
straight away, you know, it's like can you clear the ball?
Pres Nando? You know, like Abba, you know he was
(08:59):
in the air that night the stars were bright and Nando,
you know like that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You're right, I'm absolutely on board with that sort of thing.
Look much as much as I much as I'm a
little bit hesitant to endorse anything ever have done, when
you put it alongside a football chat, I'm actually on
board with it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I know if you sing it in a tough way,
ABA can be tough. Okay, do it right like a gigser?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why not? Why not? Hey? Just before you go, do
you keep eyes on Major League Baseball? I think it
might be getting a little bit interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It is getting interesting, and so is American collegiate football
alllays on America at the moment, because the NBA even
starts next week. To start to talk when you see
give well, you know, launch into life. So at the
moment that the October, so it's playoffs, and wouldn't it
be amazing if it was, if it could be Actually
I'm not sure of the different leagues, but can you
(09:55):
have Yankees Dodges. I'm not sure tell me Pioney right now,
but there is shoh Tawany and Aaron Judge, who are
two big stars helping a sport that there's really a
bit of a doul drums. If you look at the numbers,
it hasn't been good for sport. And maybe that's a
discussion for another day. And I always say with sport, well, yeah,
(10:17):
there are other interests. People get distracted, kids are gaming,
whatever it is. But then I look population wise. The
population of the world at ninety eighty seven was five
billion and now it's eight billion, So there's no excuse
for sports. Is there really plenty of people out there?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Pony, They're everywhere you look.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Everywhere you look, there are people, well most places anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
James, enjoy your week. Let's chat again next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
All right, cheers, Poney, take care of mate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You take care too, James. Behave yourself, Andy.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I wonder how Nando Pineka would feel about being aligned
to Fernando by Maybe he'll find out the port might
sing it to him. Looking forward to broadcasting live from
go Media Mount Smart next Saturday, head of the opening
game for Auckland f C.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Seven o two.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey is here, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Mate, good a piney house things.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Couple of good quarterfinals on the Bunnings MPC yesterday. Bay
of Plenty nineteen, Hawks Bay seventeen. So Bay of Plenty
are the real Bay?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah? Apparently they are the real Bay? Sing it you
from the mountaintops from Mount Manga Nui. It is they
are the Bay and two cliffhangers really, but that one
there when you see how good Hawks Bay are in
terms of personnel, and obviously Harry Godfrey is scoring an
absolute worldy of a try. I saw your tweet saying
(00:48):
Lockerman for the number fifteen jersey for the Canes with
Reuben Love at ten. But what about a switcher Roud?
What about Godbury at ten where he played all of
schoolboy rugby for Wan and New Collegiate.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're not the first person to suggest that, James, I
must say, after I did tweet that out, people see
you and I'll flip them around. Ruben Love obviously has
played mainly at fifteen. I think, in fact, almost exclusively
at fifteen for the Hurricanes. Yeah, I had heard that
Harry Godfrey was a fairly handy ten as well.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, so it could go that way. But it was
actually good to see the Steamers, you know, just get
it done and at home. I loved that boutique ground
at the Toad and that domain. But of course for me,
Piney big game was Tadanaki versus my Mulus and oh
my goodness, just the absolute game of two halves by
the way to show on Thursday nights on Sky Open
(01:38):
if you're interested. But it's just one of those ones
where I thought, Tardanaki, we're going to get that. They
just looked so strong in the second half and how
much it meant to them. Did you see Ricky rica
Telli joking back the tears in the postmatch interview. It's
awesome to see really that much feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I totally agree. I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And it was a yeah, weird old game was what
why I do? Fifteen mill ahead with about thirty minutes
to go, but then Tadannackey brought it back to what
fifteen fourteen? There was untill twenty to go. I actually
thought they were going to run over the top of
you guys, but no.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well innovative player as well from Barnsey the coach down there,
Neil Barnes having two half backs on the field so
they could pick and go cricket then or you know,
recycled the ball fast. It was incredible stuff. I love
to see it. Bradley Slater, who looks like a traditional
set of hooker with a little deaf chip and chase.
There was just a lot of things happening that were
(02:34):
kind quite strange. But I thought maybe what you could
put it down to is Aaron Crude and the old
Master running the cutter really nicely and maybe showing Josh
Jacob how to sort of win a game against all odds,
you know, just controlling the game at number ten.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Now, do you stay with me on this analogy? Do
you think that Canterbury feel a bit like Nathan McCullum
now and that they were a good cricketer growing up,
or Nathan was and then their younger brother Brendan came
through and just sort of usurp everything you'd done. Do
you think Canterbury feel that way about Tasman?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh good analogy? Yeah, well they must do. But now
the problem is when you're a city where you're the
home base for another team. I either Crusaders, they succeed
so much, you can it's the danger of just flying
under the raidar not actually being noticed, you know, Like
you could probably win an NPC and only get a
(03:30):
smattering of fans around the stadium. So that's probably just
living in the shadow of Razor's era with the Crusaders
hasn't helped them either. And you know what it's like
with Super Rugby, they just get players from wherever, you know,
like Raiser used to scour their landscape. Remember Fetukam or
Kame or Douglas. Yes it was a white cut or captain.
(03:52):
So this is what happens at Super Rugby. And I
think Tasman has really bolsted that Crusaders region and made
them so great, so they can take credit there yet.
But it is tough for them because I think every
side wants to beat Canterbury because they've been the standard bearer,
the benchmark for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Indeed, other matters around are Black Ferns thirty nine to
fourteen winners over France. That's a good end to what's
been I think by their standards are fairly mediocre. WXV
one campaign.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, it has been tough for them, and I actually
they played really well. Just watch them against France just
now on that you know, the artificial turf, which is
always weird and awkward, but anyway, it was a comfortable
win in the end. But what I thought was good
for them is that they actually got a bit of
heat from the media and the public. And what that
(04:45):
means is that people care about them deeply. You've got
to wear that as a badge of honor, pony, because
you know what it's like when the callers are just
all talking about the All Blacks or the Black Caps,
but suddenly when people start to take notice and argue
about who should be playing ten for the Black Ferns,
you know, all they need is to have a really
(05:06):
good number eight who's been left out, and maybe for
the coach to be scrutinized just as much. And you're
getting towards, you know, in the conversation, like the orb
next so good one.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I totally agree. It's engagement, isn't it. You know, it's
you know, not getting talked about is worse, isn't it.
You know, if people didn't really care, you know that
that's way worse. People are engaged I think in this team,
and that happened at the back end of what twenty
twenty two when they won the World Cup, and it
has continued and I think we will follow them with
great interest next year as they try to, you know,
(05:38):
try and win it again America's Cup. How are you
feeling about the America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm feeling bullish about it. I'm enjoying the fact that
our boat looks quite fast, which is I remember, didn't
that happen in San Francisco? Remember that? I still I'm
by that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It was.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, that was I mean, it has to be one
of the I guess the most I don't even know
what the right adjective, but yeah, like eight one ahead
and you lose nine to eight.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't, I don't. Yeah, outrageous is good.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I don't know the word choke necessarily because there's no there,
no way they were out there, you know, doing the
wrong things. It's just yeah, Jimmy Spittle just found a way,
found a way. Hey, Now next week. I just got
word yesterday that I might be doing the show next
Saturday from Mount Smart when Auckland FC have their opening
game of the of the of their life against Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Are you going to be along at this game?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Look, I can't make it. I'm working at a charity
event down in the White Cattle, but I will be
following it all the way. I've been at Auckland their
see trainings, have been doing stories with the players, have
met Jim or May from Uruguay who is completely perplexed
by the unpredictable Auckland weather, and I had to say
(06:57):
to him, sorry, yemo, it's not going to get much
better for you. It's always four seasons in one day
for most of the year, so you cannot plan for anything.
But look, I've just named another player as well, a
Colombian winger called Nada Moreno. I don't know any of
these players, Pineer. I will be honest, Okay, I don't
(07:18):
know any of the imports. But just by doing a
little bit of research you find that they've actually scoured
the globe rather nicely to get those players and to
fit with some fairly well established Kiwi names, you know,
with Alex Paulson and gold Tommy Smith, Nando Payneker in
the center of defense. So look, there is what you
(07:39):
call maybe a spine of Kiwi players, but the biggest
signing really is a Japanese player called Htorki Sakai who
played in three World Cups, including the upset victory over
Germany and the last World Cup which is a massive boilover.
So this guy is a genuine star superstar played for Marseilles.
So look, they've done quite well and thoroughly enjoy being
(08:01):
around Auckland, their sea, and have even met their answer
to yellow fever, the fan base known as the Port.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them in action. They've
sold out.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think they're going to sold the whole ground out,
but they've so they sold out the Port section fairly early.
What's their version of shirts off after eighty minutes going
to because they can't do the same thing? Have they
got their thing or will that do you think develop
organically as they.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Say, I'm assuming it will be pants down, you know.
I think that has to be the opposite of the phoenix,
So we will see pants on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I don't know, Pony, I think they haven't. Look, I've
been writing songs for them. They haven't actually asked me
to contribute at all, but you know, I've just thought, hey,
look I'm keen to get on the song sheets somehow,
and I was thinking, well, you've got Nando Panickers, so
straight away, you know, it's like can you clear the ball?
Pres Nando? You know, like Abba, you know he was
(08:59):
in the air that night the stars were bright and Nando,
you know like that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You're right, I'm absolutely on board with that sort of thing.
Look much as much as I much as I'm a
little bit hesitant to endorse anything ever have done, when
you put it alongside a football chat, I'm actually on
board with it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I know if you sing it in a tough way,
ABA can be tough. Okay, do it right like a gigser?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Why not? Why not? Hey? Just before you go, do
you keep eyes on Major League Baseball? I think it
might be getting a little bit interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It is getting interesting, and so is American collegiate football
alllays on America at the moment, because the NBA even
starts next week. To start to talk when you see
give well, you know, launch into life. So at the
moment that the October, so it's playoffs, and wouldn't it
be amazing if it was, if it could be Actually
I'm not sure of the different leagues, but can you
(09:55):
have Yankees Dodges. I'm not sure tell me Pioney right now,
but there is shoh Tawany and Aaron Judge, who are
two big stars helping a sport that there's really a
bit of a doul drums. If you look at the numbers,
it hasn't been good for sport. And maybe that's a
discussion for another day. And I always say with sport, well, yeah,
(10:17):
there are other interests. People get distracted, kids are gaming,
whatever it is. But then I look population wise. The
population of the world at ninety eighty seven was five
billion and now it's eight billion, So there's no excuse
for sports. Is there really plenty of people out there?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Pony, They're everywhere you look.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Everywhere you look, there are people, well most places anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
James, enjoy your week. Let's chat again next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
All right, cheers, Poney, take care of mate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You take care too, James. Behave yourself, Andy.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I wonder how Nando Pineka would feel about being aligned
to Fernando by Maybe he'll find out the port might
sing it to him. Looking forward to broadcasting live from
go Media Mount Smart next Saturday, head of the opening
game for Auckland f C.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Seven o two.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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