James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the start of Auckland FC, the White Ferns, the Black Caps, Oli Mathis and Hoskins Sotutu.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine
from Newstalk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZB Monday afternoons. Mean a few things, but they mean
James mconey. Did the Port sing your Nando Pineker Fernando
Abba crossover yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, I don't know if they did. I'm not sure
because Louis Toomey wasn't playing the nor my to me songs.
You know, nothing really matters to me. They didn't get
played either, so I don't know if any of the
songs and Aga do do do push Pineakers shake a tree?
That didn't make it either. So I mean, look, I
thought the Port atmosphere looked incredible. But what a day
(00:47):
for the club and for New Zealand football.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
James so good, It was so good, and you know,
in so many ways. And look, you have to you
have to hand it to Walkland FC. They gave it
a lot of marketing grunt. You know, they really got
out there and tried to publicize this football club and
the first game and people turned up, man, and it
was so good there yesterday. And that's a great venue,
to a rectangular ground in which to watch a game
(01:11):
of football.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, when it's that full, and I mean, this is
a thing. It was perfect weather, great result. I hear
it was perfect commentary as well, Pioneer. I mean, if
you have all those stars aligned, then you'll get and
you'll get the return crowd like there was probably I
don't know what the crowd was, but they'll definitely get
ten to twelve zero of them coming back for game two,
(01:33):
won't they?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, they will. It was twenty four twenty four there yesterday,
So you're right, even if only half of them come
back for game two, if people turn up to watch
something because it was new and different and it's the
first game of the season, all that, you're right, the
experience will mean that they'll I've had so many messages
from people saying they're taking their kids, and their kids
go on, when's the next when's the next game? And
(01:55):
buy me a shirt?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know. And this is the thing is the recruitment.
I've got to give them pat on the back really
for that. They need their flowers for selecting players who
people may not have heard of, but they are actually
legit top level players. So Orki Saka is a genuine
international star, three World Cups for Japan, so you know
(02:17):
he's their captain. But also guys like Louis Vstrata, a
twenty five year old defensive midfielder. I mean, let's just
be honest, Piney number six. That position is the most
important position in your team. Generally everyone goes on about
the creative players, but if you en't got one of
those guys running the tutter and every top coach knows it,
(02:38):
then your team doesn't function.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He was man of the match yesterday, a terrific player.
And look it's a leg importance. We've never heard of them, right,
I'd never heard of Louis Vistrata, but heard him now.
He looked good they yesterday. But it was good to
see the local boys too. Logan Rogerson scoring a goal.
You know, Liam Gillian a scholarship player. You know, he
sort of earned the stripes at Auckland City now at
(03:01):
Auckland f C. It was just it was just a
great day all round. Now, black Caps and White Ferns,
they can they both win over the next sort of
I don't know, eighteen hours or so.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, look, I think I think they can. And the
White Fans is a great story, really sort of a
Cinderella story because they were they were the team that
was always sort of coughing and sputtering, but looked like
they had this core of talent and what was going
to you know, when were they all going to fire?
But I just admire the way they've they've kept you know,
(03:32):
improving and showing up in pressure moments. But you know,
someone like Amelia kur just showing how world class she
is with bad Am ball, and I mean that she's
she's really sort of stood up to the point where
we've got a superstar.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There, oh, without question, without question. In the Black Caps
were only need one hundred and seven. The rain stays away,
and you know, we could win a Test an India
for the first time since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
James, I know, and look, I need to sorry for
quoting Alanas Morissette, but thank thank you India for actually
putting us on a pitch that takes seaman swing bowling
for starters, So thank you for that, but also thank
you India for playing us, giving us the respect of
(04:20):
putting out what is their top eleven, the first eleven
really just seeing what South Africa sent over to New
Zealand last time, I just thought was so poor. But
in the air giving us showing us, the respect colds,
you know, all those big stars parts and it's all
though all there. So to beat them on their home
(04:42):
turf against their best players will be will be a
massive result.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now can I ask you about the mouse just of
a man? He's really just a kid wearing the fourteen
jersey for White Cuttle in their semi final against Wellington
Olie Mathis. I believe he's out of Hamilton Boys High.
I thought he was a loose forward. Did you see
that try he scored? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I know he's a freak of nature. Oli Mathis. If
you go, if you want to go and have fun,
go on YouTube and have a look at the New
Zealand Secretary Schools game from either last year or the
year before. And Oli Mathis just puts on a clinic
of tries and assists and yeah it was a sixty
meter kick and chase where he kicked the ball and
then hacked in her head as well, sort of volleyed
(05:24):
her head and then won the chase. He is an
open side flanker. He's actually from why He so he's
a why He kid. And Wayne Smith, when he spotted
him as a kid, said hey, I've been helping out
at why he rugby club and the best best player
at the club is a fourteen year old schoolboy and
that was Oli Mathith. So now he's so even the
(05:47):
professor's going, who the hell is this? And he's got
to the point, now where what do you do with
I actually thought that Razors should take a punt on
him and take him over there, because it's he's an
outrageous talent, but they don't know is he going to
make like Eric Rush and Jonahlomou start in the forwards
and end up in the I think I've heard from
(06:08):
White Cuttle and Chiefs people that he should probably play
in the backs and second five or when look to
be two best options there. But look, when you've got
someone like that, with those sorts of wheels, you know,
it doesn't always translate. You need to actually love the
dark arts and you need to want to put your
head in some horrible places. And that's why you know
(06:31):
Sam Caine and Richard McCall were great sevens and even
Josh Cromfeld. I don't know if Oli has that necessarily
in his DNA, So let him roam free, Let.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Him roam free. Indeed, Hoskins Satutu what do you predict
for Hoskins Satutu.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think Hoskin Statutu will leave. So I think that
he he does have any injury and that's and that's
ruled him out of I think Razor was going to
call him back in for the Japan Test, but look,
he probably feels aggrieved over the over the this tenure
of Raises, but also the previous coaches as well, and
(07:08):
so I just think he you know, he can't buy
a trick, so he's looking. He's got the options of
Fiji or England. He qualifies this time next year. I
think it's been a three years standout since his last
All Blacks Test. I think the selectors have got it wrong.
I reckon that he should have been in the All
Black squad. He was the best player in Super rugby.
(07:30):
You have to find a way to get the best
out of him or to fit your system. But the
emergence of Wallace atiti is probably feels like the writing's
on the wall. Then even if he came back, he'd
still be behind the outrageous talent as well. So maybe
it's the best for him to go, and I think
he will.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm trying to remember if I remember this correctly. But
at the back end of Super Rugby, I'm pretty sure
if you asked most rugby fans they would have about
who if it was a choice between Sotutu and Satiti,
most would have gone hoss Skin Statuto, wouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, I think so. I mean Wallaston have that absolute
barnstorm of semi final. But then yes, the great thing
with Statutu is that he can play all sorts. You know,
the blues are their best work and wet, groamy conditions
and he played that tight game really well, which you
need in test matches right Autumn internationals, you know, July
(08:30):
and New zealand all that sort of stuff. You need
to be able to play in those conditions. And I
think Hoskins is a man for all seasons and that
and the one thing about it is, and I think
I've said this on your show a lot Piney you'll
you'll know I'm a Hoskin Statutu fan, is that are
we letting out possibly the most talented rugby player in
the world just slip from our grasp and not find
(08:52):
a space in the team. I know that all those
Northern Hemisphere or even South African teams will be absolutely
celebrating that we can't find a place for Hoskins Statuto
because he would be their worst nightmare to face.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
James, always good to chat mate, Thanks for taking our
callers always. Let's tell again next Sunday, shall we?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes? Indeed? And yeah the America's Cup, Oh yes, yes
they you dine out on that, mate. It's you know,
he's an all time great now, Peter Burling up there
with Dennis Connor and all the you know, all the
luminaries of that. So I still miss the old school
of laughing up and all that sort of stuff, and
you know, spinnakers and wine glasses and all that sort
(09:32):
of thing. But I'm sure they'll be enjoying the wine
glasses over there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm sure you're right. Thank you, James. James mcconey around
this time every Sunday here on Weekend Sport.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live
to News Talk z B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine
from Newstalk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZB Monday afternoons. Mean a few things, but they mean
James mconey. Did the Port sing your Nando Pineker Fernando
Abba crossover yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, I don't know if they did. I'm not sure
because Louis Toomey wasn't playing the nor my to me songs.
You know, nothing really matters to me. They didn't get
played either, so I don't know if any of the
songs and Aga do do do push Pineakers shake a tree?
That didn't make it either. So I mean, look, I
thought the Port atmosphere looked incredible. But what a day
(00:47):
for the club and for New Zealand football.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
James so good, It was so good, and you know,
in so many ways. And look, you have to you
have to hand it to Walkland FC. They gave it
a lot of marketing grunt. You know, they really got
out there and tried to publicize this football club and
the first game and people turned up, man, and it
was so good there yesterday. And that's a great venue,
to a rectangular ground in which to watch a game
(01:11):
of football.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, when it's that full, and I mean, this is
a thing. It was perfect weather, great result. I hear
it was perfect commentary as well, Pioneer. I mean, if
you have all those stars aligned, then you'll get and
you'll get the return crowd like there was probably I
don't know what the crowd was, but they'll definitely get
ten to twelve zero of them coming back for game two,
(01:33):
won't they?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, they will. It was twenty four twenty four there yesterday,
So you're right, even if only half of them come
back for game two, if people turn up to watch
something because it was new and different and it's the
first game of the season, all that, you're right, the
experience will mean that they'll I've had so many messages
from people saying they're taking their kids, and their kids
go on, when's the next when's the next game? And
(01:55):
buy me a shirt?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know. And this is the thing is the recruitment.
I've got to give them pat on the back really
for that. They need their flowers for selecting players who
people may not have heard of, but they are actually
legit top level players. So Orki Saka is a genuine
international star, three World Cups for Japan, so you know
(02:17):
he's their captain. But also guys like Louis Vstrata, a
twenty five year old defensive midfielder. I mean, let's just
be honest, Piney number six. That position is the most
important position in your team. Generally everyone goes on about
the creative players, but if you en't got one of
those guys running the tutter and every top coach knows it,
(02:38):
then your team doesn't function.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He was man of the match yesterday, a terrific player.
And look it's a leg importance. We've never heard of them, right,
I'd never heard of Louis Vistrata, but heard him now.
He looked good they yesterday. But it was good to
see the local boys too. Logan Rogerson scoring a goal.
You know, Liam Gillian a scholarship player. You know, he
sort of earned the stripes at Auckland City now at
(03:01):
Auckland f C. It was just it was just a
great day all round. Now, black Caps and White Ferns,
they can they both win over the next sort of
I don't know, eighteen hours or so.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, look, I think I think they can. And the
White Fans is a great story, really sort of a
Cinderella story because they were they were the team that
was always sort of coughing and sputtering, but looked like
they had this core of talent and what was going
to you know, when were they all going to fire?
But I just admire the way they've they've kept you know,
(03:32):
improving and showing up in pressure moments. But you know,
someone like Amelia kur just showing how world class she
is with bad Am ball, and I mean that she's
she's really sort of stood up to the point where
we've got a superstar.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There, oh, without question, without question. In the Black Caps
were only need one hundred and seven. The rain stays away,
and you know, we could win a Test an India
for the first time since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
James, I know, and look, I need to sorry for
quoting Alanas Morissette, but thank thank you India for actually
putting us on a pitch that takes seaman swing bowling
for starters, So thank you for that, but also thank
you India for playing us, giving us the respect of
(04:20):
putting out what is their top eleven, the first eleven
really just seeing what South Africa sent over to New
Zealand last time, I just thought was so poor. But
in the air giving us showing us, the respect colds,
you know, all those big stars parts and it's all
though all there. So to beat them on their home
(04:42):
turf against their best players will be will be a
massive result.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now can I ask you about the mouse just of
a man? He's really just a kid wearing the fourteen
jersey for White Cuttle in their semi final against Wellington
Olie Mathis. I believe he's out of Hamilton Boys High.
I thought he was a loose forward. Did you see
that try he scored? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I know he's a freak of nature. Oli Mathis. If
you go, if you want to go and have fun,
go on YouTube and have a look at the New
Zealand Secretary Schools game from either last year or the
year before. And Oli Mathis just puts on a clinic
of tries and assists and yeah it was a sixty
meter kick and chase where he kicked the ball and
then hacked in her head as well, sort of volleyed
(05:24):
her head and then won the chase. He is an
open side flanker. He's actually from why He so he's
a why He kid. And Wayne Smith, when he spotted
him as a kid, said hey, I've been helping out
at why he rugby club and the best best player
at the club is a fourteen year old schoolboy and
that was Oli Mathith. So now he's so even the
(05:47):
professor's going, who the hell is this? And he's got
to the point, now where what do you do with
I actually thought that Razors should take a punt on
him and take him over there, because it's he's an
outrageous talent, but they don't know is he going to
make like Eric Rush and Jonahlomou start in the forwards
and end up in the I think I've heard from
(06:08):
White Cuttle and Chiefs people that he should probably play
in the backs and second five or when look to
be two best options there. But look, when you've got
someone like that, with those sorts of wheels, you know,
it doesn't always translate. You need to actually love the
dark arts and you need to want to put your
head in some horrible places. And that's why you know
(06:31):
Sam Caine and Richard McCall were great sevens and even
Josh Cromfeld. I don't know if Oli has that necessarily
in his DNA, So let him roam free, Let.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Him roam free. Indeed, Hoskins Satutu what do you predict
for Hoskins Satutu.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think Hoskin Statutu will leave. So I think that
he he does have any injury and that's and that's
ruled him out of I think Razor was going to
call him back in for the Japan Test, but look,
he probably feels aggrieved over the over the this tenure
of Raises, but also the previous coaches as well, and
(07:08):
so I just think he you know, he can't buy
a trick, so he's looking. He's got the options of
Fiji or England. He qualifies this time next year. I
think it's been a three years standout since his last
All Blacks Test. I think the selectors have got it wrong.
I reckon that he should have been in the All
Black squad. He was the best player in Super rugby.
(07:30):
You have to find a way to get the best
out of him or to fit your system. But the
emergence of Wallace atiti is probably feels like the writing's
on the wall. Then even if he came back, he'd
still be behind the outrageous talent as well. So maybe
it's the best for him to go, and I think
he will.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm trying to remember if I remember this correctly. But
at the back end of Super Rugby, I'm pretty sure
if you asked most rugby fans they would have about
who if it was a choice between Sotutu and Satiti,
most would have gone hoss Skin Statuto, wouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, I think so. I mean Wallaston have that absolute
barnstorm of semi final. But then yes, the great thing
with Statutu is that he can play all sorts. You know,
the blues are their best work and wet, groamy conditions
and he played that tight game really well, which you
need in test matches right Autumn internationals, you know, July
(08:30):
and New zealand all that sort of stuff. You need
to be able to play in those conditions. And I
think Hoskins is a man for all seasons and that
and the one thing about it is, and I think
I've said this on your show a lot Piney you'll
you'll know I'm a Hoskin Statutu fan, is that are
we letting out possibly the most talented rugby player in
the world just slip from our grasp and not find
(08:52):
a space in the team. I know that all those
Northern Hemisphere or even South African teams will be absolutely
celebrating that we can't find a place for Hoskins Statuto
because he would be their worst nightmare to face.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
James, always good to chat mate, Thanks for taking our
callers always. Let's tell again next Sunday, shall we?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes? Indeed? And yeah the America's Cup, Oh yes, yes
they you dine out on that, mate. It's you know,
he's an all time great now, Peter Burling up there
with Dennis Connor and all the you know, all the
luminaries of that. So I still miss the old school
of laughing up and all that sort of stuff, and
you know, spinnakers and wine glasses and all that sort
(09:32):
of thing. But I'm sure they'll be enjoying the wine
glasses over there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm sure you're right. Thank you, James. James mcconey around
this time every Sunday here on Weekend Sport.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live
to News Talk z B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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