James McOnie from the Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to recap Moana Pasifika's victory, the All Whites making it to the World Cup, and the Black Caps' latest performance.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk zb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
As always on a Sunday afternoon. Though, great pleasure to
welcome James mconey to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hello mate, get it ka Piney. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Very good. We're having some good robust conversations this afternoon.
I'm not sure whether you've been taking it all in
about stadia, etc.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh stadium chat years. Mike Wayne is probably on the
same page as myself. Not that, not just because I
do work for him at the ACC. But you know,
the wind Yard Quarter proposal was the best proposal. They
turfed that out. It was the most sensible, pragmatic, financially viable,
also had the support of international concert promoters, so there
(00:54):
was a lot to like about it. But somehow, I
don't know. I just think egos and maybe even just
sort of thoughts of delusions of grandeur getting in the
way because that stadium could have been built, and I
think it could have been done, and now we may
never know.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, inertia, I think that's what we've got here. I
think that's the right word. It might not be, but
I think we've got inertia. We're not going anywhere. Mala Pacifica,
Majana Pacifica last night. Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I love that? And in fact, the way Moeer Pacifica played,
even Rob Penny admitted at the end he said, they
were just our thought out you know, sort of the
tactics are outplayed. They kicked well and did all these
things where I think the Crusaders went, hey, that's what
we used to do, which has put pressure on teams
in their own half, and instead it was moe A
(01:41):
Pacifica with you know, six tries all converted, and that's
just that's hard to come back from. And I mean
Keller Green is just an absolute revelation at first five,
so that that has unlocked a lot of the potential.
But what Tana and his team have done as coaching
teams just managed to give them that belief. And I
(02:05):
think Artist's area as a captain is a big.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Part of it, huge, huge, And I think also when
the Crusaders got back to within I think it was
nine points and Cody Taylor's coming off the bench and
to mighty Williams is coming off the bench a couple
of all blacks front rollers. You thought, right, I can
see what's going to happen here? I've seen this one before.
ONEA Pacifica are going to get run over by a
Crusader side that just mentled the Blues a week ago.
(02:29):
I just thought the way that they they you know,
showed utter resilience to then score a couple more tries
of their own and really secure the match was really
impressive to me.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And there were a couple of moments where you're just going, okay,
that is something special. And I think it was Peppersana
Patafilo who just shrugged off Ethan Blackadder. This is you know,
seasoned all black, Ethan black Aadder. And then he also
thinks scored under the posts under some pressure, and I
mean he's been in the Crusaders system and you know,
(03:00):
I'm not saying got chewed up and spat out, but
you know he's probably one of those guys wondering where
his next stop was going to be. And now you
look at him just looking like an absolute world beater
at Winer Pacifica. So they do. I think they developed
players really well. It was always going to be a
(03:20):
mainland cheese, good things take time sort of scenario, but
then with miracle fire Lungey. As we've talked about, he
will be the best blindside flanker almost is the best
blindside flanker in the world. And I'm sure the I'm
sure he's going to rugby would have been wondering how
do we actually get him over, But I think it's
(03:41):
too late that he will be someone in Superstar and
let's hope he stays in Super Rugby as well.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It would take a miracle to get him across James,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It would it would.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's terrible. Sorry, that's just a pall.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
See they've done him. So that's why I always think,
you know, like their eyes must light up. And I
mean we know that current Talboyfelow we'll qualify for the
All Blacks next year and wants to play in the
Black Jersey. But Miracle fire Ling he was born in somewhere,
so this is the whole thing. It's like, and it's
played for money, Samoa. I mean, I'd say hands off,
(04:20):
just let's you know, let them cook, let them be amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And absolutely absolutely and.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Let let the Pacific Nations actually come up with it,
because can we just be honest here, they were so
close one pass away from beating England in that World
Cup last year, so you know they're not far from
being genuine giant killers at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, let's just enjoy miracle failing and a lot of
the others as well while they are playing Super rugby.
It's it's terrific a couple of other sporting matters to
kick around. Mark Chapman got one hundred yesterday for the
black Caps. Muhammed A Bass I'm not sure many people
knew about him before yesterday. Quickest ever half century by
(05:03):
a debiton for New Zealm. He's got a bit about him.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
This kit he does what a knock and it's kind
of a nice bit of symmetry and poetry really playing
in the nation of his birth, Pakistan, and so having
Muhammad a bus there really just shows this sort of
the changing face of New Zealand sport and New Zealand
cricketers has obviously shown a little bit bit of that
from going back a couple of decades now, but he
(05:28):
was coached by d pet Petel up in Auckland and
Deepak is one of those guys. He just does amazing
work and you know, sort of unsung hero really and
such a great servant. He still loves the game so much,
will help anybody. Just a wonderful human being. And Muhammada
bus is sort of down his way into this New
(05:48):
Zealand team via Wellington and really that knock was, you know,
batting at two hundred strike great, was fantastic. So we
look forward to seeing what he can do. But Mark
Chapman is the interesting case is and he's played for
Hong Kong's he was their best player and then said, well,
I'm to give him hell in the crack. And he's
(06:09):
not a huge man. You would have met him, Piney
would have towered over him. And he's a touch player.
And yet he hit six six's in this century yesterday,
which is lance Ken stats. And that's the thing that's
just a changing game and the way that we play.
And I like the fact that someone like Mark Chapminton
(06:31):
can still make it through all the sort of like
the gym rats if you like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Absolutely, he's a good bat. He strikes it over one
hundred in One Day internationals. He's now played a decent
sample size of thirty, so he's battered I think twenty
five twenty six times, striking over one hundred in one day.
He seems like he's the kind of guy who always
gets dropped when Caine comes back. I feel like he's
worth more than.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That now then, So so it will just remain to
be seen, Like what's the space. I think Chapman's could
make it in the Test team. I mean, what's happened
the Rutchan Revender has been amazing. Of course he's a
young talent. Sapman's been around, but I'd definitely like to
see what he could do at Test level as well. Yeah, no,
(07:17):
it was, it was. It was. Actually it's been a
really good extended summer of cricket and and we've we've
found you know, we've found another star in the bus now.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The last time we spoke a week ago, it was
the day before the All Whites were playing New Caledonia.
We were both supremely confident that they were getting the
job done. They did eventually. Did you have any nervous
moments during that game though.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, they had a shocking first after they are whites.
It was. It was horrible and I was actually watching
him with Ricky Herbert. Sorry to name drop, but I'm
sure you won't mind.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We were having a debate on who which which World
Cup team was the best, and I think this one
would be the most talented, but currently it's just hard
to say. Really they need to go and do something
next year. But I've got all the all the talent
and potential. I think there's a couple of things I
really liked, which was a Costa Barbarusi's pretty much exercising
(08:15):
the demons of losing the Costa Rica a few years ago.
He said it still haunted him every night. He was
concerning Piney. We've all got moments by there though in
our careers, and then and then the other thing is
someone like Eli just now speaking of you know, he's
got a his mixed race kid Chinese mum. He weighs
(08:38):
sixty five kgs. He you know, sometimes you think, oh,
you're gonna be okay out there, and of course he's
absolutely fine. Scored a beautiful goal. He's he's one of
those guys who's just a little bit of the X
factor plays in Austria currently, and I think another year
was perfect for those guys of Eli's generation. We need
(08:58):
to give them another year. We need another year to
find starblotsing a better club perhaps so that he can
realize its full potential. Because the beauty of qualifying this early,
and we've done it with only a few other nations
I think Japan and Iran. Obviously the host in Argentina
is the defending champcell and it just gives us time
to plan Piney and that's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Absolutely right. Look, you wouldn't believe the stuff that I
think about every night that keep from me awake, James,
but talking to you on a Sunday is not one
of them. Always a pleasure, mate, Thanks for joining us,
James mcconey, big part of our Sundays.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk zb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
As always on a Sunday afternoon. Though, great pleasure to
welcome James mconey to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hello mate, get it ka Piney. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Very good. We're having some good robust conversations this afternoon.
I'm not sure whether you've been taking it all in
about stadia, etc.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh stadium chat years. Mike Wayne is probably on the
same page as myself. Not that, not just because I
do work for him at the ACC. But you know,
the wind Yard Quarter proposal was the best proposal. They
turfed that out. It was the most sensible, pragmatic, financially viable,
also had the support of international concert promoters, so there
(00:54):
was a lot to like about it. But somehow, I
don't know. I just think egos and maybe even just
sort of thoughts of delusions of grandeur getting in the
way because that stadium could have been built, and I
think it could have been done, and now we may
never know.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, inertia, I think that's what we've got here. I
think that's the right word. It might not be, but
I think we've got inertia. We're not going anywhere. Mala Pacifica,
Majana Pacifica last night. Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I love that? And in fact, the way Moeer Pacifica played,
even Rob Penny admitted at the end he said, they
were just our thought out you know, sort of the
tactics are outplayed. They kicked well and did all these
things where I think the Crusaders went, hey, that's what
we used to do, which has put pressure on teams
in their own half, and instead it was moe A
(01:41):
Pacifica with you know, six tries all converted, and that's
just that's hard to come back from. And I mean
Keller Green is just an absolute revelation at first five,
so that that has unlocked a lot of the potential.
But what Tana and his team have done as coaching
teams just managed to give them that belief. And I
(02:05):
think Artist's area as a captain is a big.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Part of it, huge, huge, And I think also when
the Crusaders got back to within I think it was
nine points and Cody Taylor's coming off the bench and
to mighty Williams is coming off the bench a couple
of all blacks front rollers. You thought, right, I can
see what's going to happen here? I've seen this one before.
ONEA Pacifica are going to get run over by a
Crusader side that just mentled the Blues a week ago.
(02:29):
I just thought the way that they they you know,
showed utter resilience to then score a couple more tries
of their own and really secure the match was really
impressive to me.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And there were a couple of moments where you're just going, okay,
that is something special. And I think it was Peppersana
Patafilo who just shrugged off Ethan Blackadder. This is you know,
seasoned all black, Ethan black Aadder. And then he also
thinks scored under the posts under some pressure, and I
mean he's been in the Crusaders system and you know,
(03:00):
I'm not saying got chewed up and spat out, but
you know he's probably one of those guys wondering where
his next stop was going to be. And now you
look at him just looking like an absolute world beater
at Winer Pacifica. So they do. I think they developed
players really well. It was always going to be a
(03:20):
mainland cheese, good things take time sort of scenario, but
then with miracle fire Lungey. As we've talked about, he
will be the best blindside flanker almost is the best
blindside flanker in the world. And I'm sure the I'm
sure he's going to rugby would have been wondering how
do we actually get him over, But I think it's
(03:41):
too late that he will be someone in Superstar and
let's hope he stays in Super Rugby as well.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It would take a miracle to get him across James,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It would it would.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's terrible. Sorry, that's just a pall.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
See they've done him. So that's why I always think,
you know, like their eyes must light up. And I
mean we know that current Talboyfelow we'll qualify for the
All Blacks next year and wants to play in the
Black Jersey. But Miracle fire Ling he was born in somewhere,
so this is the whole thing. It's like, and it's
played for money, Samoa. I mean, I'd say hands off,
(04:20):
just let's you know, let them cook, let them be amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And absolutely absolutely and.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Let let the Pacific Nations actually come up with it,
because can we just be honest here, they were so
close one pass away from beating England in that World
Cup last year, so you know they're not far from
being genuine giant killers at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, let's just enjoy miracle failing and a lot of
the others as well while they are playing Super rugby.
It's it's terrific a couple of other sporting matters to
kick around. Mark Chapman got one hundred yesterday for the
black Caps. Muhammed A Bass I'm not sure many people
knew about him before yesterday. Quickest ever half century by
(05:03):
a debiton for New Zealm. He's got a bit about him.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
This kit he does what a knock and it's kind
of a nice bit of symmetry and poetry really playing
in the nation of his birth, Pakistan, and so having
Muhammad a bus there really just shows this sort of
the changing face of New Zealand sport and New Zealand
cricketers has obviously shown a little bit bit of that
from going back a couple of decades now, but he
(05:28):
was coached by d pet Petel up in Auckland and
Deepak is one of those guys. He just does amazing
work and you know, sort of unsung hero really and
such a great servant. He still loves the game so much,
will help anybody. Just a wonderful human being. And Muhammada
bus is sort of down his way into this New
(05:48):
Zealand team via Wellington and really that knock was, you know,
batting at two hundred strike great, was fantastic. So we
look forward to seeing what he can do. But Mark
Chapman is the interesting case is and he's played for
Hong Kong's he was their best player and then said, well,
I'm to give him hell in the crack. And he's
(06:09):
not a huge man. You would have met him, Piney
would have towered over him. And he's a touch player.
And yet he hit six six's in this century yesterday,
which is lance Ken stats. And that's the thing that's
just a changing game and the way that we play.
And I like the fact that someone like Mark Chapminton
(06:31):
can still make it through all the sort of like
the gym rats if you like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Absolutely, he's a good bat. He strikes it over one
hundred in One Day internationals. He's now played a decent
sample size of thirty, so he's battered I think twenty
five twenty six times, striking over one hundred in one day.
He seems like he's the kind of guy who always
gets dropped when Caine comes back. I feel like he's
worth more than.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That now then, So so it will just remain to
be seen, Like what's the space. I think Chapman's could
make it in the Test team. I mean, what's happened
the Rutchan Revender has been amazing. Of course he's a
young talent. Sapman's been around, but I'd definitely like to
see what he could do at Test level as well. Yeah, no,
(07:17):
it was, it was. It was. Actually it's been a
really good extended summer of cricket and and we've we've
found you know, we've found another star in the bus now.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The last time we spoke a week ago, it was
the day before the All Whites were playing New Caledonia.
We were both supremely confident that they were getting the
job done. They did eventually. Did you have any nervous
moments during that game though.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, they had a shocking first after they are whites.
It was. It was horrible and I was actually watching
him with Ricky Herbert. Sorry to name drop, but I'm
sure you won't mind.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We were having a debate on who which which World
Cup team was the best, and I think this one
would be the most talented, but currently it's just hard
to say. Really they need to go and do something
next year. But I've got all the all the talent
and potential. I think there's a couple of things I
really liked, which was a Costa Barbarusi's pretty much exercising
(08:15):
the demons of losing the Costa Rica a few years ago.
He said it still haunted him every night. He was
concerning Piney. We've all got moments by there though in
our careers, and then and then the other thing is
someone like Eli just now speaking of you know, he's
got a his mixed race kid Chinese mum. He weighs
(08:38):
sixty five kgs. He you know, sometimes you think, oh,
you're gonna be okay out there, and of course he's
absolutely fine. Scored a beautiful goal. He's he's one of
those guys who's just a little bit of the X
factor plays in Austria currently, and I think another year
was perfect for those guys of Eli's generation. We need
(08:58):
to give them another year. We need another year to
find starblotsing a better club perhaps so that he can
realize its full potential. Because the beauty of qualifying this early,
and we've done it with only a few other nations
I think Japan and Iran. Obviously the host in Argentina
is the defending champcell and it just gives us time
to plan Piney and that's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Absolutely right. Look, you wouldn't believe the stuff that I
think about every night that keep from me awake, James,
but talking to you on a Sunday is not one
of them. Always a pleasure, mate, Thanks for joining us,
James mcconey, big part of our Sundays.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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