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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Monday afternoon, we get the pleasure of the company of
James mcconey. I'm in Auckland this weekend and James, you've
come in studio. It's just a delight to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's great to see you. Pioney. Things didn't work out yesterday.
Last night. I was there in the corner in the
Beitcher base and I had a very good view of
that controversial goal.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I was eating a jalapino popper at the time and
it was super hot and I was struggling to recover
from that. But I thought it was a goal.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You didn't think it bent out and came back in.
You think it always the right side of the white line,
even though you can't actually tell.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There has to be the hole of the ball, doesn't it. Yes,
And we've seen some instances of that where especially with
Japan and the World Cup, where it quite looked like
it was definitely out look It looked like it was
more of a slice as as much as anything. So
you know, maybe it just that what we didn't see
was the video evidence to we Piney. But I know
(01:07):
that Steve Crocker. Is that the reason why he just
kind of lost it for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, it was. He was absolutely fuming about that, and
then obviously coupled with the frustration of not being able
to get back in the game and eventually losing it.
I mean, I've had a text here right now. Watch
the spin on the cross. It's not spinning sideways, so
there's no way it can go out but bend back
and it's mainly backspin. Look, I think we're getting quite
deep in the weeds.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I said. I think it's more of a slice and
then a slice backhand, if you like. Even I spoke
to gmo My after the game and he was saying, look,
I wish I'd taken the shot because the ball did
come across him and then he let it roll. And
of course he's not a right foot, he's a lefty
right and then we had the incident of Lee and Gillian.
He's not a left foot, of he's arriety, and he
(01:53):
had a really good opportunity with his left foot. Like
I said, anyone out there who's got a kid who
plays football, get to play. Get them to be two
footed at least have a shot with your wrong foot.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Even Nander Pineker at the end, I thought, you know,
when that when Jack Duncan drops the ball and he
turns and goes to put on, if he's on his
left foot, he just monsters that into the net.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, But in Midnando's right foot's pretty good too, but
just not quite as good in a situation like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And I know that was a reflex volley, but I
also think you've got to leave your foot your your
feet at that point, you've really got to go. I mean,
I don't want to say full palais. It's a bit
of a tough ask, but you have to really get
ethletic and get something behind it. Because the ball was
really just drifting towards the goal. I think if you
got any more velocity on it, it's a goal. But overall, Piney,
(02:42):
I would say that the Melbourne victory actually deserved that.
I thought the Auckland f C were sort of I
thought that the three t's timid, they were tentative, a
little bit tight, you know, I didn't it didn't quite
have it and that rhythm. And then of course with
the victory, every time they attacked. They're just a little
bit more. They had all the v's going right, you know,
(03:04):
a bit of verve. They were variety and they're quite
vigorous as well.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Very good, very good from you, just before we moved
from the football. It'll take a while, won't it. Paul
life Will said this an hour or so ago. But
at some point they'd have to look back with pride,
wouldn't they once the disappointment wears off.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, And I could see that from the players last night,
even though Alex Paulson in particular is pretty emotional. You know,
he stayed in front of the fans for a little
bit longer than the others because he is leaving. But
you could tell that they were just so proud of
what they've done, but also just coming together as such
a you know, they've come from all parts of the world,
all parts of the globe, and it was a miracle
(03:40):
that they actually showed up at the right time. I
think Nadal Moreno was at two weeks but they didn't
know where he was. And so and now you look
how crucially is they've bonded so well, and really it
sets it up for next season. What can they do
to te actually, because it would have been quite a
tough second album next year if they won it all.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, no, correct, And now I guess you find out
whether they've you know, I've got the ability to back
it up in season two. We'll have to wait about
for that meantime. An hour down the road, Yeah, the
Chiefs are putting eighty five points on Mowana Pacifica.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, pone. I don't know how you drive or what
your kind of car you're in, if you're like the
new Scottie McLaughlin, but it's an hour twenty thanks me.
Not an helicopter, true, but anyway, leeh Look, I couldn't
believe the score. But also I think for Wina Pacifica,
if you play to your absolute maximum three or four
weeks in a row, something's going to give. It's unsustainable.
(04:34):
And unfortunately that was just one of those blowout games
where the Chiefs were clicking Mjuana were probably tired, you know,
lacking I guess what would you call it? That extra
motivation of knowing this was a real sudden death moment.
Even that whole Battle of the Bridge mentality against the
Blues was huge battle of the nine. So look what
(04:56):
the chief showed though, is that, yeah, they are great
when they're you know, front football. But if, for example,
I don't want to play the Canes. You know, you
saw the Canes on Friday night in Brisbane and what
they do Dupi Kadifi is just in such good form
you can't even guarantee that you'll get three or four
phases in a row with him sniping out there. So
(05:18):
one thing I would say, Pineyer is and I did
say this to you earlier in the season. I thought
Simon Parker was a bolter. Then he disappeared from sight
and you were going, what happened to Simon Parker? Mate,
Well he is back, Piney.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't remember saying what happened to Simon Parker, but
I might have thought it. I've never seen it. What
about Leroy Carter? I quite like the cut of this
guy's jib.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Learra Carter is special. I mean they had a half
back situation, didn't they were, because really, if they lost
another half back, you've got Leroy Carter who played there
in his age group. He also played a bit of flankers,
so he's kind of like that. He's a bit of
an every man rugby player. Everyone can. Everyone's played with
a guy like Leroy Carter, undersize, combative, quick, he is
(06:00):
super talent. I don't know if he'll get picked for
the All Blacks. I just think, you know, someone like
Tanny Tail, who even is is out of out of
sight at the moment with injury. He might come back
in and leap frog in. But that's why I'm sort
of putting all my bets on Parker and McAllister from
the Chiefs to be the new bees in the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Let's go to actually just on the Hurricanes. I thought
they were good the other night too. I and they
might team obviously, but you know, to secure that because
what they've done is is avoided the possibility of almost
a must win game against MOAA PACIFICA are wounded more
Ona PACIFICA Artie Save has returned to Sky Stadium, all
of that sort of stuff. Next week, you.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Know, the Hurricanes with I mean Riley Higgins wasn't playing,
but Thomas Sumunger Jensen and Riley I think are level pegging.
But having Procter back in there, having a midfield that
everyone is not only scared of but also makes the
whole team function perfectly when the Hurricanes are going through
their phases. I think they're the slickeest of any team
in Super Rugby. They remind me of France and you
(07:00):
know and good France. So really, if they can play
that sort of rugby, it's hard for anyone to live
with them. But you can see even in some of
those big games where you see a team in possession
look so different from a team defending, and the scores
can ramp up. But you know, as Stephen Donald has said,
Super rugby is one in the winter, pony winter is
(07:21):
slowly coming. Yes, that was the problem with Mount Smart
last night. All so we gave the Melbourne victory a
billion table to play on and we played on a
bog in Melbourne, and we actually gave them the perfect
conditions and of course they have the players to capitalize.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Imagine if that goal from Moreno had gone in a
week ago eight it just comes into start contrast with
what happened last night.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Eh, totally, totally we would have we should have been
hosting a final. It's a shame. But look they've given
us everything, or they've exceeded expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Let's got to the NBA finals. There's a game on
at the moment. Okay, so you're two near ahead of
the Minnesota Timberwolves in this best of seven series halftime
in Minneapolis in Game three, the Timberwolves are ahead seventy
two forty one, seventy two points in the first half.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Weird, isn't it. I mean that I'm not actually too
concerned about who goes through from that side, because I mean,
part of you want Anthony Edwards, the rising superstar, to
make it from the Timberwolves. And then you've got, okay,
see this sort of like young team that just average
age will be like, oh, you think twenty three or
something like that with Shae Gilgers Alexander. But on the
other side, you've got this incredible story of a rivalry
(08:28):
between the Pacers and the Knicks and Tyres Halliburton, who's
a sort of tallest guard who's really mainly an assist guy.
He's a passer, but he is just proving to be
so clutch and so crucial in their battles that I
just look at it and go, are the Paces really
now the team to beat overall? Because they've got a
guy as well, Pascal Siakam, who, if you don't know,
(08:50):
he's from Cameroon, but he actually won a title with
the Toronto Raptors, and he was kind of the robin
to Kawhi Leonard's batman. And now he's the robin again.
And you always need a good robin. You can't just
have Michael Jordan, you need.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Scotty Poppin exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And you can't have Larry Bird. You need Kevin McHale.
So that's what they've got and it's working for.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Them absolutely, yep. So the Pacers could be real. I
mean they're tunil up over the Knicks, Timberwolves. Back in
this one. Just before you go, somebody kind of drink
a big bottle of milk at the brickyard tomorrow morning.
Scott Dixon fourth on the grip.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Could he do it? I'm hoping he can. I mean, look,
you said you remember him winning back in two thousand
and eight. I remember him with a cushion strap to
his bum driving in this an CenTra around Poka Koe Racetrack.
So yeah, I remember that little ginger kid, And I
feel seventeen years is a long wait for some more milk,
isn't it. And ideally he'd get there. But it's a
(09:44):
shame for Scott McLachlin because because he crashed his car.
Like your experts said just before, it's always a bummer
when you've got the courtesy car. Yes, you know, especially
if you're going out on a date.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
This isn't my car smells a bit of old.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Milk, well exactly, and it doesn't impress anyone. But anyway,
Indianapolis is the center of the sporting universe and Clark
is going off as well. We'll talk about it next time.
But and we've got Kiwis in the mix, of course
with the ND five hundred. But I thought i'd leave
you with this Piney one of the greatest ever theme
tunes from a sitcom, One Day at a Time, set
(10:20):
in Indianapolis. Can you remember this?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I do? Valerie Bertonelli, Yes, we all remember. Valerie Schneider
was the handyman.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Handy man and he had a T shirt like yours
with the cigarettes in the sleeve. One of the great stairs.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Are you? James McCartney, part of our Sundays Cheers Mate.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Monday afternoon, we get the pleasure of the company of
James mcconey. I'm in Auckland this weekend and James, you've
come in studio. It's just a delight to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's great to see you. Pioney. Things didn't work out yesterday.
Last night. I was there in the corner in the
Beitcher base and I had a very good view of
that controversial goal.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I was eating a jalapino popper at the time and
it was super hot and I was struggling to recover
from that. But I thought it was a goal.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You didn't think it bent out and came back in.
You think it always the right side of the white line,
even though you can't actually tell.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There has to be the hole of the ball, doesn't it. Yes,
And we've seen some instances of that where especially with
Japan and the World Cup, where it quite looked like
it was definitely out look It looked like it was
more of a slice as as much as anything. So
you know, maybe it just that what we didn't see
was the video evidence to we Piney. But I know
(01:07):
that Steve Crocker. Is that the reason why he just
kind of lost it for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, it was. He was absolutely fuming about that, and
then obviously coupled with the frustration of not being able
to get back in the game and eventually losing it.
I mean, I've had a text here right now. Watch
the spin on the cross. It's not spinning sideways, so
there's no way it can go out but bend back
and it's mainly backspin. Look, I think we're getting quite
deep in the weeds.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I said. I think it's more of a slice and
then a slice backhand, if you like. Even I spoke
to gmo My after the game and he was saying, look,
I wish I'd taken the shot because the ball did
come across him and then he let it roll. And
of course he's not a right foot, he's a lefty
right and then we had the incident of Lee and Gillian.
He's not a left foot, of he's arriety, and he
(01:53):
had a really good opportunity with his left foot. Like
I said, anyone out there who's got a kid who
plays football, get to play. Get them to be two
footed at least have a shot with your wrong foot.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Even Nander Pineker at the end, I thought, you know,
when that when Jack Duncan drops the ball and he
turns and goes to put on, if he's on his
left foot, he just monsters that into the net.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, But in Midnando's right foot's pretty good too, but
just not quite as good in a situation like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And I know that was a reflex volley, but I
also think you've got to leave your foot your your
feet at that point, you've really got to go. I mean,
I don't want to say full palais. It's a bit
of a tough ask, but you have to really get
ethletic and get something behind it. Because the ball was
really just drifting towards the goal. I think if you
got any more velocity on it, it's a goal. But overall, Piney,
(02:42):
I would say that the Melbourne victory actually deserved that.
I thought the Auckland f C were sort of I
thought that the three t's timid, they were tentative, a
little bit tight, you know, I didn't it didn't quite
have it and that rhythm. And then of course with
the victory, every time they attacked. They're just a little
bit more. They had all the v's going right, you know,
(03:04):
a bit of verve. They were variety and they're quite
vigorous as well.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Very good, very good from you, just before we moved
from the football. It'll take a while, won't it. Paul
life Will said this an hour or so ago. But
at some point they'd have to look back with pride,
wouldn't they once the disappointment wears off.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, And I could see that from the players last night,
even though Alex Paulson in particular is pretty emotional. You know,
he stayed in front of the fans for a little
bit longer than the others because he is leaving. But
you could tell that they were just so proud of
what they've done, but also just coming together as such
a you know, they've come from all parts of the world,
all parts of the globe, and it was a miracle
(03:40):
that they actually showed up at the right time. I
think Nadal Moreno was at two weeks but they didn't
know where he was. And so and now you look
how crucially is they've bonded so well, and really it
sets it up for next season. What can they do
to te actually, because it would have been quite a
tough second album next year if they won it all.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, no, correct, And now I guess you find out
whether they've you know, I've got the ability to back
it up in season two. We'll have to wait about
for that meantime. An hour down the road, Yeah, the
Chiefs are putting eighty five points on Mowana Pacifica.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, pone. I don't know how you drive or what
your kind of car you're in, if you're like the
new Scottie McLaughlin, but it's an hour twenty thanks me.
Not an helicopter, true, but anyway, leeh Look, I couldn't
believe the score. But also I think for Wina Pacifica,
if you play to your absolute maximum three or four
weeks in a row, something's going to give. It's unsustainable.
(04:34):
And unfortunately that was just one of those blowout games
where the Chiefs were clicking Mjuana were probably tired, you know,
lacking I guess what would you call it? That extra
motivation of knowing this was a real sudden death moment.
Even that whole Battle of the Bridge mentality against the
Blues was huge battle of the nine. So look what
(04:56):
the chief showed though, is that, yeah, they are great
when they're you know, front football. But if, for example,
I don't want to play the Canes. You know, you
saw the Canes on Friday night in Brisbane and what
they do Dupi Kadifi is just in such good form
you can't even guarantee that you'll get three or four
phases in a row with him sniping out there. So
(05:18):
one thing I would say, Pineyer is and I did
say this to you earlier in the season. I thought
Simon Parker was a bolter. Then he disappeared from sight
and you were going, what happened to Simon Parker? Mate,
Well he is back, Piney.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't remember saying what happened to Simon Parker, but
I might have thought it. I've never seen it. What
about Leroy Carter? I quite like the cut of this
guy's jib.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Learra Carter is special. I mean they had a half
back situation, didn't they were, because really, if they lost
another half back, you've got Leroy Carter who played there
in his age group. He also played a bit of flankers,
so he's kind of like that. He's a bit of
an every man rugby player. Everyone can. Everyone's played with
a guy like Leroy Carter, undersize, combative, quick, he is
(06:00):
super talent. I don't know if he'll get picked for
the All Blacks. I just think, you know, someone like
Tanny Tail, who even is is out of out of
sight at the moment with injury. He might come back
in and leap frog in. But that's why I'm sort
of putting all my bets on Parker and McAllister from
the Chiefs to be the new bees in the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Let's go to actually just on the Hurricanes. I thought
they were good the other night too. I and they
might team obviously, but you know, to secure that because
what they've done is is avoided the possibility of almost
a must win game against MOAA PACIFICA are wounded more
Ona PACIFICA Artie Save has returned to Sky Stadium, all
of that sort of stuff. Next week, you.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Know, the Hurricanes with I mean Riley Higgins wasn't playing,
but Thomas Sumunger Jensen and Riley I think are level pegging.
But having Procter back in there, having a midfield that
everyone is not only scared of but also makes the
whole team function perfectly when the Hurricanes are going through
their phases. I think they're the slickeest of any team
in Super Rugby. They remind me of France and you
(07:00):
know and good France. So really, if they can play
that sort of rugby, it's hard for anyone to live
with them. But you can see even in some of
those big games where you see a team in possession
look so different from a team defending, and the scores
can ramp up. But you know, as Stephen Donald has said,
Super rugby is one in the winter, pony winter is
(07:21):
slowly coming. Yes, that was the problem with Mount Smart
last night. All so we gave the Melbourne victory a
billion table to play on and we played on a
bog in Melbourne, and we actually gave them the perfect
conditions and of course they have the players to capitalize.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Imagine if that goal from Moreno had gone in a
week ago eight it just comes into start contrast with
what happened last night.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Eh, totally, totally we would have we should have been
hosting a final. It's a shame. But look they've given
us everything, or they've exceeded expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Let's got to the NBA finals. There's a game on
at the moment. Okay, so you're two near ahead of
the Minnesota Timberwolves in this best of seven series halftime
in Minneapolis in Game three, the Timberwolves are ahead seventy
two forty one, seventy two points in the first half.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Weird, isn't it. I mean that I'm not actually too
concerned about who goes through from that side, because I mean,
part of you want Anthony Edwards, the rising superstar, to
make it from the Timberwolves. And then you've got, okay,
see this sort of like young team that just average
age will be like, oh, you think twenty three or
something like that with Shae Gilgers Alexander. But on the
other side, you've got this incredible story of a rivalry
(08:28):
between the Pacers and the Knicks and Tyres Halliburton, who's
a sort of tallest guard who's really mainly an assist guy.
He's a passer, but he is just proving to be
so clutch and so crucial in their battles that I
just look at it and go, are the Paces really
now the team to beat overall? Because they've got a
guy as well, Pascal Siakam, who, if you don't know,
(08:50):
he's from Cameroon, but he actually won a title with
the Toronto Raptors, and he was kind of the robin
to Kawhi Leonard's batman. And now he's the robin again.
And you always need a good robin. You can't just
have Michael Jordan, you need.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Scotty Poppin exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And you can't have Larry Bird. You need Kevin McHale.
So that's what they've got and it's working for.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Them absolutely, yep. So the Pacers could be real. I
mean they're tunil up over the Knicks, Timberwolves. Back in
this one. Just before you go, somebody kind of drink
a big bottle of milk at the brickyard tomorrow morning.
Scott Dixon fourth on the grip.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Could he do it? I'm hoping he can. I mean, look,
you said you remember him winning back in two thousand
and eight. I remember him with a cushion strap to
his bum driving in this an CenTra around Poka Koe Racetrack.
So yeah, I remember that little ginger kid, And I
feel seventeen years is a long wait for some more milk,
isn't it. And ideally he'd get there. But it's a
(09:44):
shame for Scott McLachlin because because he crashed his car.
Like your experts said just before, it's always a bummer
when you've got the courtesy car. Yes, you know, especially
if you're going out on a date.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
This isn't my car smells a bit of old.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Milk, well exactly, and it doesn't impress anyone. But anyway,
Indianapolis is the center of the sporting universe and Clark
is going off as well. We'll talk about it next time.
But and we've got Kiwis in the mix, of course
with the ND five hundred. But I thought i'd leave
you with this Piney one of the greatest ever theme
tunes from a sitcom, One Day at a Time, set
(10:20):
in Indianapolis. Can you remember this?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I do? Valerie Bertonelli, Yes, we all remember. Valerie Schneider
was the handyman.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Handy man and he had a T shirt like yours
with the cigarettes in the sleeve. One of the great stairs.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Are you? James McCartney, part of our Sundays Cheers Mate.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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