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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
B Sundays Mean James mconey, Hello mate, get a piney.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey him. By the way, congratulations on your radio awards
gone very well deserved.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you James, Thank you. You were a large part
of my entry. Actually, in fact, all I did was
just sending our bit from every Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Really. Oh so it's my award.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think we can share it. I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, that's fine. Look, I think it was great. I
mean the agenda podcast that I do with the acc
that was beaten by Mile Boss Rexolito was a sports
cafe s so you know, it was one of those
nights where I just had to sort of eat apple
pie and you know me, I love pies.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, I did enjoy catching up with you. You know,
we normally just talk on the phone, but the chance
to chat about various things was something I really enjoyed.
But can we do it around a more structured basis
as we normally do on the radio and start with
Super Rugby. How are you feeling about last night's section?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Great? I think it's a perfect result. The Chiefs lost
and they avoid the Hurricanes. This is the best news
the Chiefs have had for some time.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know, the Blues got up and good on the Blues.
I was actually a great game. It was a thrilling
end in some clutch moments. But just knowing that the
Hurricanes are the team that beat the Chiefs just about
three four weeks ago by eighteen points. So by avoiding
them and having to host the Brumbies, I think they've won.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
See, that is the way to find a silver lining.
I love it. I love it. And then you look
back to when the Chiefs have played the Brumbies, which
was quite near the start of the season, and they
nearly put fifty on them. So you're basically in the
Grand Final already, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's why I'm looking at it, Poney. And look, I
know for weeks you've been baiting me, trying to talk
up the Chiefs and stuff, and I know that you're
a master Beta, but I'm not going to fall for it, Poney.
You can bait me all your life. I've been saying
it all. Yeah, the Chiefs are just okay. We have
to wait to the playoffs, and I think they've got
a few issues up front and the crack started to appear,
(02:15):
although it didn't help having Luke Jacobson eliminated at the
last in the eleventh hour. So he is a huge loss.
You lose your captain and you lose your whole loose
forward trio mix.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Really yeah, he has been big for them, hasn't he
really really good? And yet it was late to wasn't it?
Was it like on match day? So you've done the
entire week's prep and all of a sudden you don't
have a pretty significant member of your team. So Brumby's
come to Hamilton next weekend. I'm not baiting your surely
you'll win that well.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't mind your baiting, Pony, because it's what you
do so well, it's your job as the host. But
I think I think the Chiefs can roll the Brumbies.
I really don't care who wins out of the Blues
and the Crusaders. I would say the Blues just sort
of getting their act together nicely. Hoskins Atutu playing, you know,
starting to show that championship pedigree of last year is
(03:10):
an awkward year because I know he's been trying to
leave New Zealand Rugby. They've kept him here, I think
that even if he plays the house down in the
playoffs for the rest of the playoffs, he won't get
pack for the Orblacks because I think he doesn't want
to play for the or Blacks. That's my feeling is
that he will say no even if Raser says you're in.
(03:30):
So that'll be quite an interesting situation to monitor for Hoskins.
But that try where he was crawling along the ground,
I mean, I know that was disallowed, but I'm pretty
sure they would have given Ardie that. You know, I
just feel like he's didn't never quite the supercised star status,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, no, I agree. It's like it's like sometimes Leonel
Messi gets gets fouls against him that other players, you know,
just get the big play off from the referee. So yeah,
now maybe there is a status thing here. Hey, well,
did you get the chance to watch the Warriors? Well,
I mean, I know you were in the coverage of
the of the Chiefs against the Blues. Have you had
the chance to catch up on the Warriors went over
(04:13):
the Sharks?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well? No, actually I took the night off the Chiefs
off the a SEC Alternative commentary because I knew that
the Blues were going to get up you see Pony,
and so I didn't want to be there for that,
but it was I did watch the Wars and to
be honest, they just they're a well oiled machine. And
there's two things I was going to talk about. One
of the emergents of Lecqua Hala Sima. You know when
(04:35):
the Australian commentators start to call him by his first name,
that they even they appreciate that this kid is going
to be a superstar. He's nineteen years old, you know,
straight out of tong He's just free kishing his ability
and you know, seems to be able to He's a trimagnet, right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's one thing. And the other thing I was going
to say is watch the space. Sky Sport has a
new League show with Sean Johnson as the host. League
Lounge with Sean Johnson sponsored by Ford, and it's going
to be on Wednesday nights. I think eight eight thirty.
I'm going to get killed for not knowing, but that'll
be on Sky Sport and it's amazing getting somebody who
(05:15):
you can tell speaking of Ozzie's identifying talent, Shawn Johnson's
all over Fox sport right now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, he is. They love him, don't they. They absolutely
love the man. And you know, I'm looking forward to
watching that as well. I've seen the promos, so now
looking forward to to watching that. And you're right about
about Lecqua. It's like Roger, isn't it. You only need
the first.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Name, that's right. They know, they know he's a star,
and so do we. And I think you know, Webbe,
Andrew Webster deserves a lot of credit for the way
he's managed him. He hasn't thrown him at all the time.
He doesn't start every game. It's it's really nicely done.
So long May at last, because it just feels like
with Leka we've finally got that cutting edge. There's something
(05:54):
out of nothing, guy who can break the line. And
some of those other youngsters. I noticed Jacob Laban starting
to do the same, so you know, they're really young kids.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Now a year from now, the All Whites will be
at the World Cup in Canada, Mexico or the United States.
This morning, in fact, in the last couple of hours,
they've beaten Cote Devoirs the Ivory Coast, a team ranked
forty first in the world. We're eighty six. They've beaten
them one nill significant result. This is the kind of
thing that could happen at a World Cup. We might
get drawn into a group with somebody like Ivory Coast.
(06:29):
It's a really significant result. This isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I know, I I've just been watching it, and I
need to defer to your expertise. Pine. Now we're coping
by Ivory Coast at the strongest. Because I saw a
couple of stars on the bench. I noticed, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Mean, I don't think they were greatly depleted. I must
have better. I've sort of been trying to do a
radio show as well, so I wasn't keeping forget the
bosses are listening. I wasn't watching the football. I was
doing the radio. But yeah, I think, but they weren't
a bad they Certainly there's no bad Ivory Coast team,
I don't think so. And Chris Wood only came on
(07:05):
with about ten minutes to go for us, so these
be playing a minimal.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Role exactly that. And also, Eli, just we need to
talk about this guy because he should be a household name.
I know he isn't a household name really, but he
scored the goals. Damn. And it took the three ball.
Eli Just is a legitimate international star, emerging star. He's
from Parmerston, North, He's a Parmi Boys kid. I think
(07:30):
he's a wee fellow. He's about sixty five kg. He's
dripping wet. He's I think his mum's Chinese. He's kind
of come through the system in New Zealand all the
age group teams, but ended up over in Europe and Denmark.
Is he playing in Austria piney you can correct me.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He is playing in Austria, bang On yep.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So there you go. And so that's Eli justin. If
you're wondering what's so good about him, I think he's
just got well, he's quick, he's accurate, he's good off
both both feet. But he's just got composure. You know,
you see him on the ball. This was really comfortable
and it's been a while since we've had you know,
I'm I don't want to compare him to you know,
Le Migna male, but just when you see someone who
(08:12):
comes through and just looks like they belong at that level,
that's what Eli Just's like.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And eight six goals in his last seven matches. Hi
just to finish. Do you remember talking to me about
Oli Mathis on Thursday night?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yes, Oli Mathis. Let's talk about this generational talent who's
kind of gone into the wilderness, well literally because he
loves hunting from why he loves to go up into
the bush and do that sort of thing. I think
he's there this weekend, but anyway he is. He's played
for New Zealand sevens. Didn't get much of a run.
He's the guy i'd come on in the last five minutes.
But that was a big call for someone who really
(08:45):
looks like he shot out of a cannon. An incredible
loose forward on the lighter side, but not that small,
similar probably to Henry Pollock, you know, the lucy open
side from Northampton has just made the Lion. So my
question is, Poney, what are we doing with this talent?
It just seems he's twenty years old, he's about to
(09:06):
go to the World Cup. But I just feel like
we've should have seen them maybe have a go at
super Rugby. Are they protecting him because he's not the
biggest Well I look around there are you know, there's
lots of players who aren't necessarily massive, but this talent
that he's got needs to be harnessed. And I think
Wayne Smith when he went down to why He Club
(09:27):
about six years ago, said to them your best player
is this fourteen year old. Now when the professor says
that there should be alarms going off at New Zealand
Rugby headquarters saying Smith, he's found one. The professor has
found you know, he's struck Gold and why he So
let's just see what happens. He will play in PC
for the Mollers, but not yet attached to a Super
(09:50):
Rugby franchise, although he did get a bit of training
and with the Crusaders recently the wider and the wider
training group. He please don't let them go to the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, we can't let that happen. I do have to go. James,
great to chat as always, James mcconie's.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
B Sundays Mean James mconey, Hello mate, get a piney.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey him. By the way, congratulations on your radio awards
gone very well deserved.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you James, Thank you. You were a large part
of my entry. Actually, in fact, all I did was
just sending our bit from every Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Really. Oh so it's my award.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think we can share it. I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, that's fine. Look, I think it was great. I
mean the agenda podcast that I do with the acc
that was beaten by Mile Boss Rexolito was a sports
cafe s so you know, it was one of those
nights where I just had to sort of eat apple
pie and you know me, I love pies.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, I did enjoy catching up with you. You know,
we normally just talk on the phone, but the chance
to chat about various things was something I really enjoyed.
But can we do it around a more structured basis
as we normally do on the radio and start with
Super Rugby. How are you feeling about last night's section?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Great? I think it's a perfect result. The Chiefs lost
and they avoid the Hurricanes. This is the best news
the Chiefs have had for some time.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know, the Blues got up and good on the Blues.
I was actually a great game. It was a thrilling
end in some clutch moments. But just knowing that the
Hurricanes are the team that beat the Chiefs just about
three four weeks ago by eighteen points. So by avoiding
them and having to host the Brumbies, I think they've won.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
See, that is the way to find a silver lining.
I love it. I love it. And then you look
back to when the Chiefs have played the Brumbies, which
was quite near the start of the season, and they
nearly put fifty on them. So you're basically in the
Grand Final already, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's why I'm looking at it, Poney. And look, I
know for weeks you've been baiting me, trying to talk
up the Chiefs and stuff, and I know that you're
a master Beta, but I'm not going to fall for it, Poney.
You can bait me all your life. I've been saying
it all. Yeah, the Chiefs are just okay. We have
to wait to the playoffs, and I think they've got
a few issues up front and the crack started to appear,
(02:15):
although it didn't help having Luke Jacobson eliminated at the
last in the eleventh hour. So he is a huge loss.
You lose your captain and you lose your whole loose
forward trio mix.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Really yeah, he has been big for them, hasn't he
really really good? And yet it was late to wasn't it?
Was it like on match day? So you've done the
entire week's prep and all of a sudden you don't
have a pretty significant member of your team. So Brumby's
come to Hamilton next weekend. I'm not baiting your surely
you'll win that well.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't mind your baiting, Pony, because it's what you
do so well, it's your job as the host. But
I think I think the Chiefs can roll the Brumbies.
I really don't care who wins out of the Blues
and the Crusaders. I would say the Blues just sort
of getting their act together nicely. Hoskins Atutu playing, you know,
starting to show that championship pedigree of last year is
(03:10):
an awkward year because I know he's been trying to
leave New Zealand Rugby. They've kept him here, I think
that even if he plays the house down in the
playoffs for the rest of the playoffs, he won't get
pack for the Orblacks because I think he doesn't want
to play for the or Blacks. That's my feeling is
that he will say no even if Raser says you're in.
(03:30):
So that'll be quite an interesting situation to monitor for Hoskins.
But that try where he was crawling along the ground,
I mean, I know that was disallowed, but I'm pretty
sure they would have given Ardie that. You know, I
just feel like he's didn't never quite the supercised star status,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, no, I agree. It's like it's like sometimes Leonel
Messi gets gets fouls against him that other players, you know,
just get the big play off from the referee. So yeah,
now maybe there is a status thing here. Hey, well,
did you get the chance to watch the Warriors? Well,
I mean, I know you were in the coverage of
the of the Chiefs against the Blues. Have you had
the chance to catch up on the Warriors went over
(04:13):
the Sharks?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well? No, actually I took the night off the Chiefs
off the a SEC Alternative commentary because I knew that
the Blues were going to get up you see Pony,
and so I didn't want to be there for that,
but it was I did watch the Wars and to
be honest, they just they're a well oiled machine. And
there's two things I was going to talk about. One
of the emergents of Lecqua Hala Sima. You know when
(04:35):
the Australian commentators start to call him by his first name,
that they even they appreciate that this kid is going
to be a superstar. He's nineteen years old, you know,
straight out of tong He's just free kishing his ability
and you know, seems to be able to He's a trimagnet, right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's one thing. And the other thing I was going
to say is watch the space. Sky Sport has a
new League show with Sean Johnson as the host. League
Lounge with Sean Johnson sponsored by Ford, and it's going
to be on Wednesday nights. I think eight eight thirty.
I'm going to get killed for not knowing, but that'll
be on Sky Sport and it's amazing getting somebody who
(05:15):
you can tell speaking of Ozzie's identifying talent, Shawn Johnson's
all over Fox sport right now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, he is. They love him, don't they. They absolutely
love the man. And you know, I'm looking forward to
watching that as well. I've seen the promos, so now
looking forward to to watching that. And you're right about
about Lecqua. It's like Roger, isn't it. You only need
the first.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Name, that's right. They know, they know he's a star,
and so do we. And I think you know, Webbe,
Andrew Webster deserves a lot of credit for the way
he's managed him. He hasn't thrown him at all the time.
He doesn't start every game. It's it's really nicely done.
So long May at last, because it just feels like
with Leka we've finally got that cutting edge. There's something
(05:54):
out of nothing, guy who can break the line. And
some of those other youngsters. I noticed Jacob Laban starting
to do the same, so you know, they're really young kids.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Now a year from now, the All Whites will be
at the World Cup in Canada, Mexico or the United States.
This morning, in fact, in the last couple of hours,
they've beaten Cote Devoirs the Ivory Coast, a team ranked
forty first in the world. We're eighty six. They've beaten
them one nill significant result. This is the kind of
thing that could happen at a World Cup. We might
get drawn into a group with somebody like Ivory Coast.
(06:29):
It's a really significant result. This isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I know, I I've just been watching it, and I
need to defer to your expertise. Pine. Now we're coping
by Ivory Coast at the strongest. Because I saw a
couple of stars on the bench. I noticed, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Mean, I don't think they were greatly depleted. I must
have better. I've sort of been trying to do a
radio show as well, so I wasn't keeping forget the
bosses are listening. I wasn't watching the football. I was
doing the radio. But yeah, I think, but they weren't
a bad they Certainly there's no bad Ivory Coast team,
I don't think so. And Chris Wood only came on
(07:05):
with about ten minutes to go for us, so these
be playing a minimal.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Role exactly that. And also, Eli, just we need to
talk about this guy because he should be a household name.
I know he isn't a household name really, but he
scored the goals. Damn. And it took the three ball.
Eli Just is a legitimate international star, emerging star. He's
from Parmerston, North, He's a Parmi Boys kid. I think
(07:30):
he's a wee fellow. He's about sixty five kg. He's
dripping wet. He's I think his mum's Chinese. He's kind
of come through the system in New Zealand all the
age group teams, but ended up over in Europe and Denmark.
Is he playing in Austria piney you can correct me.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He is playing in Austria, bang On yep.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So there you go. And so that's Eli justin. If
you're wondering what's so good about him, I think he's
just got well, he's quick, he's accurate, he's good off
both both feet. But he's just got composure. You know,
you see him on the ball. This was really comfortable
and it's been a while since we've had you know,
I'm I don't want to compare him to you know,
Le Migna male, but just when you see someone who
(08:12):
comes through and just looks like they belong at that level,
that's what Eli Just's like.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And eight six goals in his last seven matches. Hi
just to finish. Do you remember talking to me about
Oli Mathis on Thursday night?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yes, Oli Mathis. Let's talk about this generational talent who's
kind of gone into the wilderness, well literally because he
loves hunting from why he loves to go up into
the bush and do that sort of thing. I think
he's there this weekend, but anyway he is. He's played
for New Zealand sevens. Didn't get much of a run.
He's the guy i'd come on in the last five minutes.
But that was a big call for someone who really
(08:45):
looks like he shot out of a cannon. An incredible
loose forward on the lighter side, but not that small,
similar probably to Henry Pollock, you know, the lucy open
side from Northampton has just made the Lion. So my
question is, Poney, what are we doing with this talent?
It just seems he's twenty years old, he's about to
(09:06):
go to the World Cup. But I just feel like
we've should have seen them maybe have a go at
super Rugby. Are they protecting him because he's not the
biggest Well I look around there are you know, there's
lots of players who aren't necessarily massive, but this talent
that he's got needs to be harnessed. And I think
Wayne Smith when he went down to why He Club
(09:27):
about six years ago, said to them your best player
is this fourteen year old. Now when the professor says
that there should be alarms going off at New Zealand
Rugby headquarters saying Smith, he's found one. The professor has
found you know, he's struck Gold and why he So
let's just see what happens. He will play in PC
for the Mollers, but not yet attached to a Super
(09:50):
Rugby franchise, although he did get a bit of training
and with the Crusaders recently the wider and the wider
training group. He please don't let them go to the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, we can't let that happen. I do have to go. James,
great to chat as always, James mcconie's.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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