James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the All Blacks' sweep of the French series, R360 and the Phoenix's victory over Wrexham.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Coming to you from Hamilton after last night's Test match.
James mcconey as well, it's always sad to leave. I
like this place.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How good is it? And I've had some pretty good
reports from French people as well. You know, they've found
a good hot chocolate and across on to dunk in it.
So there you go. Not the worst place in the.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
World, No, it is certainly not. It's nowhere near the
bottom of the list as far as I'm concerned. Let's
talk some sport. Boden Barrett didn't play last night hand injury.
We hear he's going to be okay for the Rugby Championship. Yeah,
where are we with Boden Barrett. He seems to have
been around for a long time. Has he got enough
guess in the tank?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, it's interesting the Boden Barrett thing, Poney, because I
mean last night I think McKenzie had a patchy game,
let's be honest. But at the same time, I think
Boden has showed that he's currently the number one. But
last week there was a really interesting quote. Well he
got quite emotional have listened to this? What is emotional?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I guess I never really know when it's going to
be my last.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So yeah, every time I.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Get the chance to play, especially with a brother on
my side, that gets emotional for me. So it takes
a lot of effort these days to play test Rugby. Interesting
interesting from Bona Better was at that little media scrum
as well. What is he suggesting there?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, he's really hinting at an exit of some kind,
isn't he Really? This seems to me fairly clear Boden saying, look,
my day's in this jersey are numbered. He's I mean,
he's clearly number one. But he knows full well that
Razor and ns in Rugby have made overtures to Richie
mu Wanna. So he knows that every chance that Morgan
(01:56):
will be back in the World Cup year, and in
that World Cup year, Boden will be thirty six years old.
So I feel that Boden knowing that your employer, I
imagine if you knew that your employer currently have talks
of Martin Devlin pony, It's a little bit unsettling, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I've seen I've seen I've seen some of those emails. Yeah,
but like all I can all I can do is
my best when I'm handed the jersey exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Right, and you've been outstanding. But the thing is undoubtedly
number one pony. But hey, there's this other guy who
So that's exactly what they're doing right now. And I
think Boden is a mature adult. Was saying, look, you
know there's nothing, you know, you can't take anything for granted.
I know there's a shelf life because of my age.
And also, is this rugby three sixty on the horizon.
(02:43):
You just heard Heather Duplace talk about it that they
are getting some big names. And I'm telling you a
guy in mid thirties who's who's a legend of the game,
Boden Barrett. I know they've had other names like Roger
two of us ask Caylen Pongner, but you just wait,
someone like Boden Barrett could be exactly the sort of
player thereafter.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, well those other two A League players, aren't they
And if they're really serious about high class rugby competition,
a guy like Boden Barrett that would be that'll be
a dial turner, you know for them, that would be
a real stamp of legitimacy. If they can get a
player like that. What do you think of the concept?
Do you think it's got leagues rugby three sixty?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think it's it's definitely going to happen. I think
that this competition will happen, So everybody's basing for it.
All the agents I've spoken to know they're getting offers
for players already that the stadiums I've talked to, they've
got host cities. So it's a bit like salgp of
rugby if you like, you know, you go from Tottenham
(03:43):
Hotspur Stadium in London down to the New Camp in Barcelona.
It's ninety thousand there, isn't it, Pony? I think yeah?
And then New York and LA have been linked as well,
so that's what they're going to do is turn into
a traveling road show. But yes, I think it's going
to happen. And look, I'm not a big fan of
Saudi money, but my one proviso with Saudi money is
(04:05):
I'll take it. As long as they can go back
there and start women's rugby and a gay rugby club
as well in Saudi Arabia, then I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well. Speaking to Bruce Sharyck yesterday on the show he said, look,
the you know, the Saudi stuff has been a little
bit misreported. Having said that though if you want big
money in sport at the moment, it seems that Saudi
Arabia is one place where you can accumulate those funds. Anyway,
we wait and see our younger rugby players. Our under
(04:34):
twenties have gone down to South Africa in the Under
twenty World Cup or World Championship final this morning twenty
three fifteen, but still our best finish since we won
it in twenty seventeen. So maybe the next waver is
about to arrive.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, it is a pretty good wave of talent coming through.
And now I actually watched the game against France the
semi final, and there's a French second five year is
going to terrorize the All Blacks in a couple of years,
so watch this space for that. But they're a bit
unlucky because the star player Oli Mathis was unavailable for
the final. That's the why katt Or Flank who sometimes
(05:09):
plays on the wing, who I sort of talk about
quite a lot, the next Henry Pollock. But there is
a hook of there called Elo Odinryan. Of course, if
you think, oh, I know that's their name, well it
is Lee Odin Ryan's son, who looks nothing like his
lanky dad, but he is very, very quick, and I
think he's probably the best or most talented player in
(05:30):
that group at the moment. So let's watch out for him.
He's currently a crusader and who knows where he'll end
up next. But yeah, there's obviously a really good crop
that's coming through.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Good to see. Good to see now. I watched the
British and Irish Lions play the Wallabies last night, and
if you hadn't watched the game and you saw the
score twenty seven nineteen, you tell him that's quite close.
I just thought the Wallabies re distant second last night.
What did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah? I thought the Wallabies were really disappointing because I
thought there were only chance to rumble the Lions was
to move the ball and I just didn't see it
happen enough. But also something for all rugby coaches that
they need to really think about is just because he's
a number on your jersey, it doesn't matter. So Joseph Swaylity,
just because he's got thirteen on his back. Doesn't mean
(06:17):
that every move he has to be outside the second five.
Feel free for him to pop up anywhere. I mean,
Sean Fitzpatrick didn't care. He played half his career on
the wing. So look, just be a bit more innovative
when you've got a star like that, find a different
way to utilize him. So yeah, I just thought it
(06:37):
was a bit too predictable for the Wallabies. They I mean,
they don't have much depth. There are players that you know,
Ballatini's and Jiggles, Skeletons and jid so it was always
going to be tough to beat them in Test one.
But and even having Tom Lioner for his first I
think first run on start to play the Lions, I
(06:58):
thought that was an absolute comakazi mission. That should have
been Ben Donaldson. If you know you rugby, he's Ben
Donaldson's been around and kicks goals for fun, and I
think he would have been a better option at ten, or.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Even James O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Even James O'Connor, why not, I know, And I mean, look,
you look at the Wallaby has actually experienced some of
the same problems as the All Blacks last night. You
just know you know how some some of the moves
weren't quite clicking. It was a bit patchy. But the
great thing about the All Blacks is suddenly Ardie saviez
(07:32):
running thirty five meters up the field. But the Wallabies
just don't have that X factor and I won't. Maybe
I should get into my conspiracy theory about theory about
Razor picking so many chiefs was a massive pr move,
I reckon and then chucking them and the cauldron of
the Third Test. I know what you're doing, Raser. You're
trying to you know, because if they lost, maybe if
(07:55):
they lost, then the knives will be up for all
the Chiefs, and then makes it easy to bring Pavely
and Ethan Black at her back, and who I love,
by the way, I think they're really good players. But
what I want to say to Raiser, the quote Despy
of quote the spice skills, is tell me what you want,
what you really really want, because just take the team
that you want.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he'll have to do that. Now he's used thirty
three guys in this series. He's going to have to
narrow that down for the big ones ahead. We wait
to see how many Chiefs there are when the side
to play Argentina is named in a few weeks. Hey,
couple of other sporting matters want to get your view
on Scotti Scheffler. He's got a four stroke lead at
the Open Championship. He shouldn't relinquish that. Looks like another
(08:35):
major coming the way of Scotti Scheffler.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, and I mean I've got a lot of time
for Scotti Schiffer. I interviewed him at the Olympics over
in Paris, and he's just a really cool customer, can
handle anything, didn't mind the odd crowd goes wild, question
about going to Applebee's, like Will Ferrell and Talladega Knights,
like he's he's unflappable, and he's very different from a
(08:58):
lot of I guess American stars. You know, he's not
that demonstrative. It almost looks like this being amazing at
God for some burden that has been thrust upon him.
But I love that about him. I think he's just
very much an every man character and look that he deserves.
I mean that it is quite a cluster of really
(09:19):
good golfers at the moment, but he deserves to be
number one and have some daylight there because you know,
He's one of those guys who no matter where you
are in the field, you know, he can produce something incredible,
like he did in Paris and right now four shots up. Yeah,
it looks like it's Scotty's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I remember that interview. Actually, not everybody can do that interview.
You are so disarming when it comes to anybody. Really,
he's pretty famous Scotti Scheffery, you know. But it was
obvious he enjoyed chatting with you, having done probably one
hundred inane interviews but the likes of people like me.
But I think he enjoyed chatting with you. Just to finish,
(09:57):
Welcome to Wellington, Wrexham one nil to the Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know. How cool is that? By the way, the
goal scorer Luke flowered you. How awesome is his name? Like,
I mean, obviously this Luke Skywalker. It feels like it's
slightly related, but a bit more sort of like fluffy
and nice and so good on them Teenager scoring that
goal the Wrexam thing. Look at the Phoenix needed some
(10:24):
good news and that felt like it was awesome for
the club. But also Wrexim are getting Libby Cacacci, a
guy that you and I know very very well, and
I'm hoping that that means we both get interviews with
Ryan Reynolds on our shows very very soon.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, yeah, it seems like it seems like a polite
thing for Libby to do, to facilitate and a view
with one of the one of the biggest stars in
the world. Look, I think we should get the wheels
in motion for a James. I think we should make
it happen, or at least attempted.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, it would be rather nice. But I mean, let's
just make sure that the Phoenix have got a couple
of players over the age of twenty this year. I
am a bit concerned how young that team might be.
It is because we know cost has gone. But it
was actually really good to see him. Incredible saved by Olayemu,
the goalkeeper who copped him of flack last year, and
(11:19):
he is he does give your heart palpitations, but there's
some talent still there at the next Good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
On you, James, loving the city mate, sad to leave.
Let's chat again next Sunday, shall.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
We lovely look forward to it. Go to Tron, Go
to Tron.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
James McConney big part of our Sundays on News Talks EDB.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talks EDB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Coming to you from Hamilton after last night's Test match.
James mcconey as well, it's always sad to leave. I
like this place.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How good is it? And I've had some pretty good
reports from French people as well. You know, they've found
a good hot chocolate and across on to dunk in it.
So there you go. Not the worst place in the.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
World, No, it is certainly not. It's nowhere near the
bottom of the list as far as I'm concerned. Let's
talk some sport. Boden Barrett didn't play last night hand injury.
We hear he's going to be okay for the Rugby Championship. Yeah,
where are we with Boden Barrett. He seems to have
been around for a long time. Has he got enough
guess in the tank?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, it's interesting the Boden Barrett thing, Poney, because I
mean last night I think McKenzie had a patchy game,
let's be honest. But at the same time, I think
Boden has showed that he's currently the number one. But
last week there was a really interesting quote. Well he
got quite emotional have listened to this? What is emotional?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I guess I never really know when it's going to
be my last.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So yeah, every time I.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Get the chance to play, especially with a brother on
my side, that gets emotional for me. So it takes
a lot of effort these days to play test Rugby. Interesting
interesting from Bona Better was at that little media scrum
as well. What is he suggesting there?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, he's really hinting at an exit of some kind,
isn't he Really? This seems to me fairly clear Boden saying, look,
my day's in this jersey are numbered. He's I mean,
he's clearly number one. But he knows full well that
Razor and ns in Rugby have made overtures to Richie
mu Wanna. So he knows that every chance that Morgan
(01:56):
will be back in the World Cup year, and in
that World Cup year, Boden will be thirty six years old.
So I feel that Boden knowing that your employer, I
imagine if you knew that your employer currently have talks
of Martin Devlin pony, It's a little bit unsettling, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I've seen I've seen I've seen some of those emails. Yeah,
but like all I can all I can do is
my best when I'm handed the jersey exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Right, and you've been outstanding. But the thing is undoubtedly
number one pony. But hey, there's this other guy who
So that's exactly what they're doing right now. And I
think Boden is a mature adult. Was saying, look, you
know there's nothing, you know, you can't take anything for granted.
I know there's a shelf life because of my age.
And also, is this rugby three sixty on the horizon.
(02:43):
You just heard Heather Duplace talk about it that they
are getting some big names. And I'm telling you a
guy in mid thirties who's who's a legend of the game,
Boden Barrett. I know they've had other names like Roger
two of us ask Caylen Pongner, but you just wait,
someone like Boden Barrett could be exactly the sort of
player thereafter.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, well those other two A League players, aren't they
And if they're really serious about high class rugby competition,
a guy like Boden Barrett that would be that'll be
a dial turner, you know for them, that would be
a real stamp of legitimacy. If they can get a
player like that. What do you think of the concept?
Do you think it's got leagues rugby three sixty?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think it's it's definitely going to happen. I think
that this competition will happen, So everybody's basing for it.
All the agents I've spoken to know they're getting offers
for players already that the stadiums I've talked to, they've
got host cities. So it's a bit like salgp of
rugby if you like, you know, you go from Tottenham
(03:43):
Hotspur Stadium in London down to the New Camp in Barcelona.
It's ninety thousand there, isn't it, Pony? I think yeah?
And then New York and LA have been linked as well,
so that's what they're going to do is turn into
a traveling road show. But yes, I think it's going
to happen. And look, I'm not a big fan of
Saudi money, but my one proviso with Saudi money is
(04:05):
I'll take it. As long as they can go back
there and start women's rugby and a gay rugby club
as well in Saudi Arabia, then I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well. Speaking to Bruce Sharyck yesterday on the show he said, look,
the you know, the Saudi stuff has been a little
bit misreported. Having said that though if you want big
money in sport at the moment, it seems that Saudi
Arabia is one place where you can accumulate those funds. Anyway,
we wait and see our younger rugby players. Our under
(04:34):
twenties have gone down to South Africa in the Under
twenty World Cup or World Championship final this morning twenty
three fifteen, but still our best finish since we won
it in twenty seventeen. So maybe the next waver is
about to arrive.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, it is a pretty good wave of talent coming through.
And now I actually watched the game against France the
semi final, and there's a French second five year is
going to terrorize the All Blacks in a couple of years,
so watch this space for that. But they're a bit
unlucky because the star player Oli Mathis was unavailable for
the final. That's the why katt Or Flank who sometimes
(05:09):
plays on the wing, who I sort of talk about
quite a lot, the next Henry Pollock. But there is
a hook of there called Elo Odinryan. Of course, if
you think, oh, I know that's their name, well it
is Lee Odin Ryan's son, who looks nothing like his
lanky dad, but he is very, very quick, and I
think he's probably the best or most talented player in
(05:30):
that group at the moment. So let's watch out for him.
He's currently a crusader and who knows where he'll end
up next. But yeah, there's obviously a really good crop
that's coming through.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Good to see. Good to see now. I watched the
British and Irish Lions play the Wallabies last night, and
if you hadn't watched the game and you saw the
score twenty seven nineteen, you tell him that's quite close.
I just thought the Wallabies re distant second last night.
What did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah? I thought the Wallabies were really disappointing because I
thought there were only chance to rumble the Lions was
to move the ball and I just didn't see it
happen enough. But also something for all rugby coaches that
they need to really think about is just because he's
a number on your jersey, it doesn't matter. So Joseph Swaylity,
just because he's got thirteen on his back. Doesn't mean
(06:17):
that every move he has to be outside the second five.
Feel free for him to pop up anywhere. I mean,
Sean Fitzpatrick didn't care. He played half his career on
the wing. So look, just be a bit more innovative
when you've got a star like that, find a different
way to utilize him. So yeah, I just thought it
(06:37):
was a bit too predictable for the Wallabies. They I mean,
they don't have much depth. There are players that you know,
Ballatini's and Jiggles, Skeletons and jid so it was always
going to be tough to beat them in Test one.
But and even having Tom Lioner for his first I
think first run on start to play the Lions, I
(06:58):
thought that was an absolute comakazi mission. That should have
been Ben Donaldson. If you know you rugby, he's Ben
Donaldson's been around and kicks goals for fun, and I
think he would have been a better option at ten, or.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Even James O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Even James O'Connor, why not, I know, And I mean, look,
you look at the Wallaby has actually experienced some of
the same problems as the All Blacks last night. You
just know you know how some some of the moves
weren't quite clicking. It was a bit patchy. But the
great thing about the All Blacks is suddenly Ardie saviez
(07:32):
running thirty five meters up the field. But the Wallabies
just don't have that X factor and I won't. Maybe
I should get into my conspiracy theory about theory about
Razor picking so many chiefs was a massive pr move,
I reckon and then chucking them and the cauldron of
the Third Test. I know what you're doing, Raser. You're
trying to you know, because if they lost, maybe if
(07:55):
they lost, then the knives will be up for all
the Chiefs, and then makes it easy to bring Pavely
and Ethan Black at her back, and who I love,
by the way, I think they're really good players. But
what I want to say to Raiser, the quote Despy
of quote the spice skills, is tell me what you want,
what you really really want, because just take the team
that you want.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he'll have to do that. Now he's used thirty
three guys in this series. He's going to have to
narrow that down for the big ones ahead. We wait
to see how many Chiefs there are when the side
to play Argentina is named in a few weeks. Hey,
couple of other sporting matters want to get your view
on Scotti Scheffler. He's got a four stroke lead at
the Open Championship. He shouldn't relinquish that. Looks like another
(08:35):
major coming the way of Scotti Scheffler.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, and I mean I've got a lot of time
for Scotti Schiffer. I interviewed him at the Olympics over
in Paris, and he's just a really cool customer, can
handle anything, didn't mind the odd crowd goes wild, question
about going to Applebee's, like Will Ferrell and Talladega Knights,
like he's he's unflappable, and he's very different from a
(08:58):
lot of I guess American stars. You know, he's not
that demonstrative. It almost looks like this being amazing at
God for some burden that has been thrust upon him.
But I love that about him. I think he's just
very much an every man character and look that he deserves.
I mean that it is quite a cluster of really
(09:19):
good golfers at the moment, but he deserves to be
number one and have some daylight there because you know,
He's one of those guys who no matter where you
are in the field, you know, he can produce something incredible,
like he did in Paris and right now four shots up. Yeah,
it looks like it's Scotty's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I remember that interview. Actually, not everybody can do that interview.
You are so disarming when it comes to anybody. Really,
he's pretty famous Scotti Scheffery, you know. But it was
obvious he enjoyed chatting with you, having done probably one
hundred inane interviews but the likes of people like me.
But I think he enjoyed chatting with you. Just to finish,
(09:57):
Welcome to Wellington, Wrexham one nil to the Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know. How cool is that? By the way, the
goal scorer Luke flowered you. How awesome is his name? Like,
I mean, obviously this Luke Skywalker. It feels like it's
slightly related, but a bit more sort of like fluffy
and nice and so good on them Teenager scoring that
goal the Wrexam thing. Look at the Phoenix needed some
(10:24):
good news and that felt like it was awesome for
the club. But also Wrexim are getting Libby Cacacci, a
guy that you and I know very very well, and
I'm hoping that that means we both get interviews with
Ryan Reynolds on our shows very very soon.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, yeah, it seems like it seems like a polite
thing for Libby to do, to facilitate and a view
with one of the one of the biggest stars in
the world. Look, I think we should get the wheels
in motion for a James. I think we should make
it happen, or at least attempted.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, it would be rather nice. But I mean, let's
just make sure that the Phoenix have got a couple
of players over the age of twenty this year. I
am a bit concerned how young that team might be.
It is because we know cost has gone. But it
was actually really good to see him. Incredible saved by Olayemu,
the goalkeeper who copped him of flack last year, and
(11:19):
he is he does give your heart palpitations, but there's
some talent still there at the next Good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
On you, James, loving the city mate, sad to leave.
Let's chat again next Sunday, shall.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
We lovely look forward to it. Go to Tron, Go
to Tron.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
James McConney big part of our Sundays on News Talks EDB.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talks EDB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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