September 13, 2025 • 7 mins
James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the All Blacks and Warriors' latest losses.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Sunday afternoons, which hat to James mcconey who was in
the ACC commentary box last night for that one. You've
given it the overnight test. How are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, well, we took it well on the night at
the ACC Pony, although we did flip most of the
desks that endzed ME headquarters in Central Auckland there, so
apologize to ZB colleagues. But look, I was actually kind
of vaguely happy about it because I just loved the
way South Africa played. It was Champagne rugby playing in
the style that was kind of longed for. A lot
(00:46):
of your callers are getting nostalgic on the line, just
saying I remember when the All Blacks played that way,
and so as a rugby fan, I was thinking, yeah, play,
I loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You have to be happy for South Africa, don't you,
because they were terrific and their fans, I mean, their
fans are so cool last week in Auckland, again in
Wellington last night. Like us, they love their rugby team.
They love playing against us as we love playing against them.
You can't help but be happy for them.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, and they showed us this pace and power that
they've got, but also picking their moments, it was a
lot of enterprise show and it wasn't boring the style. Yeah,
they were the old the box kicks. By the way,
box kicking isn't that hard. Get out there. If you've
got a young half back in your household, get him
out there. Just kick it really hard in the belly
of the ball, right in that sweet spot. I mean,
(01:36):
most of your teammates down at Tawa Football Club could
probably box kick pony. It isn't that hard. Get some
elevation on it. Look at videos of Connor Murray. We
need to get better at that skill. But I digress.
I was just gonna say that, have you boxed Kip
by the way, pony?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Have you? No?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well I I no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We need to get better at that skill. But what
what Rassi has done is he's at least the dragon
because these younger asked the backs from South Africa that
he picked for this week, if they keep stay together
with Tony Brown helping them, you know, sort of pulling
some strings, that it could make them unbeatable for the
next World cup and they knew the Orblecks would keep kicking,
and they suddenly decided to counterattack, and it shocked us
(02:23):
to our core. And that was that was kind of concerning.
And the other thing I did notice is that look
gainsmanship was kind of funny really because the refs had
no more drama. He pulled them both captains aside, no
more silly buggers, and straight away Jasper Visa tackled Jordie
straighter after the whistle, and I was quite amused by
that because they really know how to get under our skin,
(02:45):
and fair play to them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I thought Leroy Carter had a pretty good debut.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What did you think, yep, Lero was best on field
for us? You know, he actually sparked a lot of
our attack. And one thing that did concern me though,
with you know, a couple of times we had what
it looked like overlaps, and I guess not all overlaps
are created because of how good Covet defense is, but
why not explore it? Why not take that extra twenty
(03:12):
or thirty yards meet is that you can get out
wide in that channel and then see what happens. But
you know, a couple of times I think we decided
to check or hold on to it, and I just
sort of think maybe their impulses or their decision making,
something's going on with the overall strategy. And even listening
to Jason Ryan, that was quite revealing because it doesn't
(03:33):
sound like everyone's on the same page that he wasn't
happy with the kicking game. But the one other thing
I wanted to talk to you about was was selection
pinty or signing players, because you know, Mark Talire, why
do we ever let him go? There needs to be
you know, there's a lot of I guess conjecture around
(03:55):
him leaving, but you know, do we just make the
call because of his age or something? But you know,
with the South Africans, Rassi, he knows who he wants.
He's He's not saying to like a Smith, Malcolm Marx
or Peter Steph the toy who are all playing in Japan.
He's not saying, hey, you guys did have a good
game against Tsheba, I'm not picking you for the Test series.
(04:15):
He knows exactly what he wants and so I wonder
where the Rais are. On the other hand, the past
two years of Super rugby that he's watched he's watched
the Blues dominating the first year and they were actually
pretty good in the second year with four dominance. How
many Blues are in our forward pack, well, zero.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And you're right, it'll open up. It will open up
the conversation about picking off short players again. And we
don't have time to go and do that today.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But I.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Mentioned before, twenty eight of the forty three points scored
by South Africo last night was scored by players who
play in Japan. You know it ain't no soft league anymore,
is it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, we're letting players go up there, you know, Shannon Fraze,
I know we're getting Richie Moore on the back, but
I understand that we can't compete with money. But I
think the Mark Tale decision, I think was baffling for me,
and also keeping Hoskinstitutu out of the team last year
has really come back to bite them because Jaspavisa, who
played an incredible game at number eight, similar dimensions, a
(05:13):
big body just dominating and getting front football. Well, wouldn't
you want that? You've got a guy playing today for
County's monycode down in the cargo by the way, Just
side note, tell you a news team. Apparently that Countyes
team had to travel by bus from christ Church to
in the cargo and got there after midnight last night.
So that is an eight hour bus ride before a
(05:36):
big rugby game.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's problem. Well do you know why no flights?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm not sure why, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened,
So it's worth someone asking afterwards. And look, I mean,
I just think decision making is big for me, poney,
and I feel sorry for Billy Proctical. He threw a
really shocking intercept, got faked out by Cheslin, who sort
of you know, happens in touch with somebody fakes the
touch and goes to the decept of vice versa. But
(06:06):
you know, selling a dummy is sometimes a good thing.
There's nothing wrong with the old double cump, you know,
there isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Indeed, Hey, I've only got about a minute to go.
Can you cover warriors and black ferns in that time?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Probably not? And I think the Worries we actually spoke
about it last week. I thought they were going to
go down to the Panthers. That it's a bridge too far,
losing metcalf by, I met all that sort of leadership
and direction out of the team though they punched above
their weights. So not a bad season this year. So
and then the Black Ferns getting shocked by South Africa
ten all at halftime. Just the class coming through and
(06:41):
here we can all enjoy the Black Ferns march because
I think you know they're on track for something special.
But England and Canada at full strength will be tough
to beat.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Great to chat as always, James, thanks for joining us.
We'll do it again next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Eh, cheers mate, good good in the background on TV,
you're looking great.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You need to need to zoom in, Thanks James. James
mcconey big part of our Sunday seven and a half
away from two.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Sunday afternoons, which hat to James mcconey who was in
the ACC commentary box last night for that one. You've
given it the overnight test. How are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, well, we took it well on the night at
the ACC Pony, although we did flip most of the
desks that endzed ME headquarters in Central Auckland there, so
apologize to ZB colleagues. But look, I was actually kind
of vaguely happy about it because I just loved the
way South Africa played. It was Champagne rugby playing in
the style that was kind of longed for. A lot
(00:46):
of your callers are getting nostalgic on the line, just
saying I remember when the All Blacks played that way,
and so as a rugby fan, I was thinking, yeah, play,
I loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You have to be happy for South Africa, don't you,
because they were terrific and their fans, I mean, their
fans are so cool last week in Auckland, again in
Wellington last night. Like us, they love their rugby team.
They love playing against us as we love playing against them.
You can't help but be happy for them.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, and they showed us this pace and power that
they've got, but also picking their moments, it was a
lot of enterprise show and it wasn't boring the style. Yeah,
they were the old the box kicks. By the way,
box kicking isn't that hard. Get out there. If you've
got a young half back in your household, get him
out there. Just kick it really hard in the belly
of the ball, right in that sweet spot. I mean,
(01:36):
most of your teammates down at Tawa Football Club could
probably box kick pony. It isn't that hard. Get some
elevation on it. Look at videos of Connor Murray. We
need to get better at that skill. But I digress.
I was just gonna say that, have you boxed Kip
by the way, pony?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Have you? No?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well I I no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We need to get better at that skill. But what
what Rassi has done is he's at least the dragon
because these younger asked the backs from South Africa that
he picked for this week, if they keep stay together
with Tony Brown helping them, you know, sort of pulling
some strings, that it could make them unbeatable for the
next World cup and they knew the Orblecks would keep kicking,
and they suddenly decided to counterattack, and it shocked us
(02:23):
to our core. And that was that was kind of concerning.
And the other thing I did notice is that look
gainsmanship was kind of funny really because the refs had
no more drama. He pulled them both captains aside, no
more silly buggers, and straight away Jasper Visa tackled Jordie
straighter after the whistle, and I was quite amused by
that because they really know how to get under our skin,
(02:45):
and fair play to them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I thought Leroy Carter had a pretty good debut.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What did you think, yep, Lero was best on field
for us? You know, he actually sparked a lot of
our attack. And one thing that did concern me though,
with you know, a couple of times we had what
it looked like overlaps, and I guess not all overlaps
are created because of how good Covet defense is, but
why not explore it? Why not take that extra twenty
(03:12):
or thirty yards meet is that you can get out
wide in that channel and then see what happens. But
you know, a couple of times I think we decided
to check or hold on to it, and I just
sort of think maybe their impulses or their decision making,
something's going on with the overall strategy. And even listening
to Jason Ryan, that was quite revealing because it doesn't
(03:33):
sound like everyone's on the same page that he wasn't
happy with the kicking game. But the one other thing
I wanted to talk to you about was was selection
pinty or signing players, because you know, Mark Talire, why
do we ever let him go? There needs to be
you know, there's a lot of I guess conjecture around
(03:55):
him leaving, but you know, do we just make the
call because of his age or something? But you know,
with the South Africans, Rassi, he knows who he wants.
He's He's not saying to like a Smith, Malcolm Marx
or Peter Steph the toy who are all playing in Japan.
He's not saying, hey, you guys did have a good
game against Tsheba, I'm not picking you for the Test series.
(04:15):
He knows exactly what he wants and so I wonder
where the Rais are. On the other hand, the past
two years of Super rugby that he's watched he's watched
the Blues dominating the first year and they were actually
pretty good in the second year with four dominance. How
many Blues are in our forward pack, well, zero.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And you're right, it'll open up. It will open up
the conversation about picking off short players again. And we
don't have time to go and do that today.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But I.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Mentioned before, twenty eight of the forty three points scored
by South Africo last night was scored by players who
play in Japan. You know it ain't no soft league anymore,
is it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, we're letting players go up there, you know, Shannon Fraze,
I know we're getting Richie Moore on the back, but
I understand that we can't compete with money. But I
think the Mark Tale decision, I think was baffling for me,
and also keeping Hoskinstitutu out of the team last year
has really come back to bite them because Jaspavisa, who
played an incredible game at number eight, similar dimensions, a
(05:13):
big body just dominating and getting front football. Well, wouldn't
you want that? You've got a guy playing today for
County's monycode down in the cargo by the way, Just
side note, tell you a news team. Apparently that Countyes
team had to travel by bus from christ Church to
in the cargo and got there after midnight last night.
So that is an eight hour bus ride before a
(05:36):
big rugby game.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's problem. Well do you know why no flights?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm not sure why, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened,
So it's worth someone asking afterwards. And look, I mean,
I just think decision making is big for me, poney,
and I feel sorry for Billy Proctical. He threw a
really shocking intercept, got faked out by Cheslin, who sort
of you know, happens in touch with somebody fakes the
touch and goes to the decept of vice versa. But
(06:06):
you know, selling a dummy is sometimes a good thing.
There's nothing wrong with the old double cump, you know,
there isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Indeed, Hey, I've only got about a minute to go.
Can you cover warriors and black ferns in that time?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Probably not? And I think the Worries we actually spoke
about it last week. I thought they were going to
go down to the Panthers. That it's a bridge too far,
losing metcalf by, I met all that sort of leadership
and direction out of the team though they punched above
their weights. So not a bad season this year. So
and then the Black Ferns getting shocked by South Africa
ten all at halftime. Just the class coming through and
(06:41):
here we can all enjoy the Black Ferns march because
I think you know they're on track for something special.
But England and Canada at full strength will be tough
to beat.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Great to chat as always, James, thanks for joining us.
We'll do it again next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Eh, cheers mate, good good in the background on TV,
you're looking great.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You need to need to zoom in, Thanks James. James
mcconey big part of our Sunday seven and a half
away from two.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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