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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey's here off the back of our netple chat.
Thank goodness you here, James.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Yes, I'm taking you back to rugby.
I hope you don't mind, Poney, but I was entranced
by that game last night. I felt that there was
a lot of even jobs on the line last night.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I just thought that your Chiefs players and that team
were absolutely magnificent. To a man, Quinty Pie, did you
know he was a center?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I did, actually, But thank you, Poney, because I'm actually
the Chiefs hate hotline unofficially from a lot of my friends.
You don't usually use it, but I do feel several
calls often if a Chiefs player isn't up to scratch,
and I know that it can get a bit weird
when fifteen of them are selected in one year for
the All Blacks. But yes, Quinti Pier last night. Well, yes,
(01:02):
he did play center for Hamilton Boys back in the day,
and he was a center for White Cuttle in the
early days. But when he graduated to the Chiefs, of course,
he was Antonine at Brown in the number thirteen Jersey
and Alex Dankeervell, who was a career center if you
like so. So, Quentin's slotted in at twelve and he's
very good second five but as you can see, he
can play both and it helps when your arms are
(01:27):
as strong as your legs.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, that's true. And I just love the way he
is so direct. A couple of tries, one with a
lovely cushioned header from Jordi Barrett that reminded me of
Guigumo Mai from the Auckland f C side. We can
get to that later, but actually, can I also ask
you about Lee Roy carter Man talk about a duck
to water when it comes to test rugby for that bloke.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I know, it's just that he's mister energy that
energize a bunny right now. And of course if you
do have a young let's say, halfback like he was,
and he was a half back from the Zella under twenties,
which isn't that long ago, and they're super quick and
they're very combative and hey, they might just make a
great winger and that's what he is. They call him Bomfa.
(02:10):
He the said those front on tackles he makes. Yep,
he's so impressive, and it's against guys who are stepping
them and he reads it and smashes them front on
something to behold. So I think there are Leroy carters
buzzing around New Zealand rugby. I played with one of
a guy called Matt Seevil who ended up playing the
King Country. He was a half back turned winger. And
(02:32):
you know there's a lot of those guys there who
just lend themselves to that. And the only quite often
you'll only find out that quick at the school athletics day,
you know where they scamper away and you go, wait
a second, this guy's got wheels. And I'm sure Lero
was the same at toting the boys.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm sure he was. Yeah, that's why first fifteen rugby
coaches are always very interested bystanders at the school athletics day,
just to see who's got the wheels, just to see
who's quick.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Oh one thing as well about Quinn as he was
marking up against Joseph Suulity and the amount of hype
around him is razy. So let's be honest, everyone's running
with a Quinn can handle it well, not only handle it,
but he out, you know, overshadowed Joseph and you know,
just everything he did, he didn't get the credit, I
don't think for that try where he hacked the ball
(03:22):
ahead and stayed ahead of all the runners, and actually
that try was came from a line out winning against
the throw from Fabian Holland. He's been another rookie who
was incredible. I thought last week at Eden Park he
won fourteen of the All Blacks fifteen lineouts and he
just keeps on in terms of unearthing, you know, potential greats.
(03:43):
I think Razor has done a really good job there.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Just before we move on from the rugby and if
we could move away from the Chiefs just ever so
slightly to the Crusaders to mighty Williams and Fletcher nuwell
the starting props last night. Cody Taylor was there as well,
so let's not forget him and all Crusaders front row,
but Williams and Null I like these guys as well,
do you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, I love I mean I thought that having the
Crusaders front row made a big difference with the cohesion
at scrub time. But also there was a massive moment
when will Skelton picked on camoyguard in the first minute
of the game and sort of ragged old him and
pushed him around, and you could see Tomighty Williams was
not happy and he wanted to join the ref and
having a chat with Skelton. Did you see him wondering
(04:23):
over risk, this isn't your business and commning going I
think you'll find it is my business. That's my half back.
And then Will Skelton left in the thirteenth minute, and
so I went back on the tape and tried to
find if it was to Mikey who did something to him,
but it wasn't. He didn't get down Gudu in his
(04:44):
great tackle though that cut him in half, but no,
he It looked like Will Skelton was stretching for a
pass from Harry Potter, and as a fellow big man,
I can report that a pass that you have to
stretch for is not a great idea. But when the
game did speed up, I did notice that Skelton was struggling.
So that seems like the future for the All Blacks.
(05:04):
And then that's why, just before we leave the that game,
I thought Peter Larkey was really really good. Part Garnet
and part tongue then. Interesting, that's the first time we've
ever had that, Piney. I mean you and I know
I love our garnet and footballers, but first garnet and
rugby player I've truly fallen in love with and he
(05:27):
made a big difference and I think he was He
showed that in that Test against France last year. Just
carrying on that form.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So a month off now for the All Blacks. Then
on consecutive Sundays, Ireland in Chicago, Scotland at Edinburgh, England
at Twickenham and Wales at Cardiff. That is the remainder
of the All Blacks. Twenty twenty five. Can we go
to the NRL Grand Final? Who do you want to
win this game tonight? The Melbourne Storm or the Brisbane Broncos,
not who you think will win. Who do you want
to win?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Oh? The Broncos? One d rather the Broncos were the
Melbourne Storm the evil Empire. They're innovators. I mean they
are the first club to get properly done for salary
cat breach. There are also a lot of the tackles
that have been outlawed in recent history, initiated and started
at the Storm in camp there and I've even had
(06:18):
former Storm players confirm that they're always looking to define
ways to sort of rig the system, if you like.
And then a new law will come out from the
NRL and it's generally Storm and you have to admire
their innovation. And actually Wayne Smith is one of them,
one of Craig Dullamy's mentors. Can you believe he's on
the books at the Melbourne Storm, So sir Wayne Smith
(06:41):
Smith is helping them. So they've got the best brains
in both codes, if you like. But really the Phil
the Broncos, the way they've sort of built again, I
do really like Reese Walsh as a player. I know
that does weird stuff off the field and drinks toilet water,
but I mean you can forgive someone for drinking toilet
water once or twice, can't you. Pony?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I thought you were going to say, which of us
hasn't on that? Oh man?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, like he's clearly an odd individual. He's an extremely
good looking man and a very good rugby league play.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, that's the thing. And also what I notice is
you know how regularly can get robotic with those moves
where they get into a good shape as they call it,
and it's either a front door or a back door pass,
you know, the short ball for the second rower, or
the out ball, the wide ball, the back door pass
to the to the fullback. Well, Reese walshler changes all that.
He shows up in the position where a half normally
(07:41):
would and then suddenly he decides to go for it
and throw a neckbill pass out wide. I actually like
the fact that he is really off the tough and
and I don't know if you interviewed him when he
was with the Warriors, Poney, but he's kind of got
a very gentle personality. It doesn't seem like a contactical
guy at all. But yeah, I just like watching him play.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So do I and another guy enjoyed watching play for
the Warriors for a long time as Bunty are for
And he gets one more crack this afternoon, not in
the first grade side, but in the reserve team and
the state championship as they take on the brilliantly named
Burly Bears this afternoon. I hope Bunty can come off
the back fence a few more times and leave on
a high.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, one hundred percent. What an incredible servant, and he's
the glue guy in the squad as well. They'll miss Bunty,
especially off the field. I think in recent years he's
just been that guy who just keeps the everyone's spirits
up and will turn up at anybody's house. For I
think it was when Aaron Clark showed up at the Warriors,
Bunty was the first guy around in his place. So yeah,
(08:44):
lovely man, and hey, look shout out to Michael maguire
as well, the Broncos coach. Who's you know, He's been
sacked from plenty of places and I know he won
a title with SUTs, but it just shows that that
sacked coaches can win. Piney with Hadon with Hanson and
Henry who got ditched by Wales. You know, Carlo Ancelotti
got sacked by everyone and succeeded at Real Madrid's so
(09:06):
why not major as they call them. Michael McGuire for
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Great stuff, James, always good chatting mate. Thanks for taking
the time as always. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday
and we'll catch up again next weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News talkst B weekends from midday or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey's here off the back of our netple chat.
Thank goodness you here, James.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Yes, I'm taking you back to rugby.
I hope you don't mind, Poney, but I was entranced
by that game last night. I felt that there was
a lot of even jobs on the line last night.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I just thought that your Chiefs players and that team
were absolutely magnificent. To a man, Quinty Pie, did you
know he was a center?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I did, actually, But thank you, Poney, because I'm actually
the Chiefs hate hotline unofficially from a lot of my friends.
You don't usually use it, but I do feel several
calls often if a Chiefs player isn't up to scratch,
and I know that it can get a bit weird
when fifteen of them are selected in one year for
the All Blacks. But yes, Quinti Pier last night. Well, yes,
(01:02):
he did play center for Hamilton Boys back in the day,
and he was a center for White Cuttle in the
early days. But when he graduated to the Chiefs, of course,
he was Antonine at Brown in the number thirteen Jersey
and Alex Dankeervell, who was a career center if you
like so. So, Quentin's slotted in at twelve and he's
very good second five but as you can see, he
can play both and it helps when your arms are
(01:27):
as strong as your legs.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, that's true. And I just love the way he
is so direct. A couple of tries, one with a
lovely cushioned header from Jordi Barrett that reminded me of
Guigumo Mai from the Auckland f C side. We can
get to that later, but actually, can I also ask
you about Lee Roy carter Man talk about a duck
to water when it comes to test rugby for that bloke.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I know, it's just that he's mister energy that
energize a bunny right now. And of course if you
do have a young let's say, halfback like he was,
and he was a half back from the Zella under twenties,
which isn't that long ago, and they're super quick and
they're very combative and hey, they might just make a
great winger and that's what he is. They call him Bomfa.
(02:10):
He the said those front on tackles he makes. Yep,
he's so impressive, and it's against guys who are stepping
them and he reads it and smashes them front on
something to behold. So I think there are Leroy carters
buzzing around New Zealand rugby. I played with one of
a guy called Matt Seevil who ended up playing the
King Country. He was a half back turned winger. And
(02:32):
you know there's a lot of those guys there who
just lend themselves to that. And the only quite often
you'll only find out that quick at the school athletics day,
you know where they scamper away and you go, wait
a second, this guy's got wheels. And I'm sure Lero
was the same at toting the boys.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I'm sure he was. Yeah, that's why first fifteen rugby
coaches are always very interested bystanders at the school athletics day,
just to see who's got the wheels, just to see
who's quick.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Oh one thing as well about Quinn as he was
marking up against Joseph Suulity and the amount of hype
around him is razy. So let's be honest, everyone's running
with a Quinn can handle it well, not only handle it,
but he out, you know, overshadowed Joseph and you know,
just everything he did, he didn't get the credit, I
don't think for that try where he hacked the ball
(03:22):
ahead and stayed ahead of all the runners, and actually
that try was came from a line out winning against
the throw from Fabian Holland. He's been another rookie who
was incredible. I thought last week at Eden Park he
won fourteen of the All Blacks fifteen lineouts and he
just keeps on in terms of unearthing, you know, potential greats.
(03:43):
I think Razor has done a really good job there.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Just before we move on from the rugby and if
we could move away from the Chiefs just ever so
slightly to the Crusaders to mighty Williams and Fletcher nuwell
the starting props last night. Cody Taylor was there as well,
so let's not forget him and all Crusaders front row,
but Williams and Null I like these guys as well,
do you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, I love I mean I thought that having the
Crusaders front row made a big difference with the cohesion
at scrub time. But also there was a massive moment
when will Skelton picked on camoyguard in the first minute
of the game and sort of ragged old him and
pushed him around, and you could see Tomighty Williams was
not happy and he wanted to join the ref and
having a chat with Skelton. Did you see him wondering
(04:23):
over risk, this isn't your business and commning going I
think you'll find it is my business. That's my half back.
And then Will Skelton left in the thirteenth minute, and
so I went back on the tape and tried to
find if it was to Mikey who did something to him,
but it wasn't. He didn't get down Gudu in his
(04:44):
great tackle though that cut him in half, but no,
he It looked like Will Skelton was stretching for a
pass from Harry Potter, and as a fellow big man,
I can report that a pass that you have to
stretch for is not a great idea. But when the
game did speed up, I did notice that Skelton was struggling.
So that seems like the future for the All Blacks.
(05:04):
And then that's why, just before we leave the that game,
I thought Peter Larkey was really really good. Part Garnet
and part tongue then. Interesting, that's the first time we've
ever had that, Piney. I mean you and I know
I love our garnet and footballers, but first garnet and
rugby player I've truly fallen in love with and he
(05:27):
made a big difference and I think he was He
showed that in that Test against France last year. Just
carrying on that form.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So a month off now for the All Blacks. Then
on consecutive Sundays, Ireland in Chicago, Scotland at Edinburgh, England
at Twickenham and Wales at Cardiff. That is the remainder
of the All Blacks. Twenty twenty five. Can we go
to the NRL Grand Final? Who do you want to
win this game tonight? The Melbourne Storm or the Brisbane Broncos,
not who you think will win. Who do you want
to win?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Oh? The Broncos? One d rather the Broncos were the
Melbourne Storm the evil Empire. They're innovators. I mean they
are the first club to get properly done for salary
cat breach. There are also a lot of the tackles
that have been outlawed in recent history, initiated and started
at the Storm in camp there and I've even had
(06:18):
former Storm players confirm that they're always looking to define
ways to sort of rig the system, if you like.
And then a new law will come out from the
NRL and it's generally Storm and you have to admire
their innovation. And actually Wayne Smith is one of them,
one of Craig Dullamy's mentors. Can you believe he's on
the books at the Melbourne Storm, So sir Wayne Smith
(06:41):
Smith is helping them. So they've got the best brains
in both codes, if you like. But really the Phil
the Broncos, the way they've sort of built again, I
do really like Reese Walsh as a player. I know
that does weird stuff off the field and drinks toilet water,
but I mean you can forgive someone for drinking toilet
water once or twice, can't you. Pony?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I thought you were going to say, which of us
hasn't on that? Oh man?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, like he's clearly an odd individual. He's an extremely
good looking man and a very good rugby league play.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, that's the thing. And also what I notice is
you know how regularly can get robotic with those moves
where they get into a good shape as they call it,
and it's either a front door or a back door pass,
you know, the short ball for the second rower, or
the out ball, the wide ball, the back door pass
to the to the fullback. Well, Reese walshler changes all that.
He shows up in the position where a half normally
(07:41):
would and then suddenly he decides to go for it
and throw a neckbill pass out wide. I actually like
the fact that he is really off the tough and
and I don't know if you interviewed him when he
was with the Warriors, Poney, but he's kind of got
a very gentle personality. It doesn't seem like a contactical
guy at all. But yeah, I just like watching him play.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So do I and another guy enjoyed watching play for
the Warriors for a long time as Bunty are for
And he gets one more crack this afternoon, not in
the first grade side, but in the reserve team and
the state championship as they take on the brilliantly named
Burly Bears this afternoon. I hope Bunty can come off
the back fence a few more times and leave on
a high.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, one hundred percent. What an incredible servant, and he's
the glue guy in the squad as well. They'll miss Bunty,
especially off the field. I think in recent years he's
just been that guy who just keeps the everyone's spirits
up and will turn up at anybody's house. For I
think it was when Aaron Clark showed up at the Warriors,
Bunty was the first guy around in his place. So yeah,
(08:44):
lovely man, and hey, look shout out to Michael maguire
as well, the Broncos coach. Who's you know, He's been
sacked from plenty of places and I know he won
a title with SUTs, but it just shows that that
sacked coaches can win. Piney with Hadon with Hanson and
Henry who got ditched by Wales. You know, Carlo Ancelotti
got sacked by everyone and succeeded at Real Madrid's so
(09:06):
why not major as they call them. Michael McGuire for
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Great stuff, James, always good chatting mate. Thanks for taking
the time as always. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday
and we'll catch up again next weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News talkst B weekends from midday or follow the
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