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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Skipper Bruno Fernandez has kept his nerve to give Manchester
United a very important first win of the season.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This is a moment of huge significance Financhester United. Seven
minutes Ino stoppage time.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Bruno fernandest s, there's your captain.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Surely a mat swinner for Manchester United.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And yes it proved to be so. Bruno Fernandez converting
an injury time penalty to give United a three to
two victory over Burnley at Old Trafford That came after
an opening day loss to Arsenal, a one old drawer
at Fulham and midweek defeat to fourth tier Grimsby on
penalties in the League Cup. All of this off the
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back of a fifteenth placed finish in the Premier League
last season by some distance, their lowest in the Premier
League era, and their lower since they were relegated from
the old Division One all the way back in the
season of nineteen seventy three seventy four, Jay Motty, as
co host of Strickford Peddock, an online Manchester United fans channel,
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was close to a million subscribers Jay, let's talk about
today first. Was today just a matter of getting the
three points in whichever fashion they came.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, look, we needed a win.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We know obviously it's not been a great start to
the season, losing it home to Arsenal despite a decent
performance than the drawer at Fulham, and obviously that absolute
horror show away at Grimsby. The pressures already on Ruben Amri,
which sounds insane just three games in, but this is
where we are. So to not be a newly promoted
side at Old Shafford there would have been no excuses.
And even though it was a bit such and going,
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obviously we had to rely on a penalty.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I'm just glad we got the three points.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Was at the game and you know, the atmosphere would
have been toxic at the end if we not won.
It really would have got By the end everyone was
sort of more relieved than celebratory.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's just a relief that we've got those three points.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'll go into this international break, hopefully in the next
forty hours, get a goalkeeper in and then take it
from there. Because it's not been the start of the
season we wanted, especially after the disappointing campaign last time round.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
This seems like a very odd question to be asking
when we haven't even reached up Timber, but his brunef
and Andy has saved his manager's job today.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
What I would say on that is I don't think
necessarily that had we not won, Ruby Amerin gets sacked.
But I think that if or when Ruby Amerin does
leave United, that would have been one of the games
you look back and go he needed to win. Then
he didn't get it because we can't keep dropping points,
you can't keep having these disappointing results. So I don't
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know where any of your stand with Ruby Avmum. I
still feel like they supporting him, So I don't know
necessarily whether they've gone right. That's it, You've drawn it. Obviously
you're done. But it would have hadded more pressure on
him and it might be one of those games where
when he does leave, you look back and go, look,
if Bruno had scored that penalty against Burley, that would
have helped him. Obviously he has done. I just hope
now we can sort of. I know it's like a
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common theme at Manchester United and we say it all
the time. A bit of a reset we have a
reset every single season, and now we're having him three
games in. But we need to sort of take stock,
hopefully during this international break, use it to sort of
I don't even know, maybe just get behind this manager
a little bit. Maybe the manager gets the players that
aren't on international duty, maybe he has a chat with them,
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gets them a little bit more on board. Like I said,
there's still lot of opportunities in the transfer window. We've
got a little time left there, but we need to
do something because the games after the the international break,
I think we've got Manchester City, We've got Chelsea, Brentford away,
and then I think we've got Liverpool. So it's not
gonna get any easier for Ruben Anut, It's gonna get
a lot harder.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Do main chance, Do United fans like him? Do they
on the whole jay? Are they in support of your
current boss?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes? To do we do?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I mean I think that's the problem, if you can
call it a problem, in terms of his personality and
where he comes across.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think everyone's buying into it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I think there was a lot of sympathy in the
seeming inherited, the messy, inherited, the way he carries himself.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He's honesty, which sometimes can be his undoing.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
If you saw him after the Grimsby game, some of
the things he was saying is maybe a little bit
too honest, if that's even a thing.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But I think most United fans that I've.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Spoken soon, and certainly ones that get involved in the
comments on the chat on the channel back Rubina, we
like him, but you have to win football matches man
she United manager. I know that's probably the most obvious
statement you've ever heard, but it's true. He can't keep losing,
or keep dropping points or getting not started Cup competitions.
And just because you're good in an interview or you're
good in a press conference, people are going to stick
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with you, sooner or later you're going to lose the fans.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And I think there is a bit more of a
divide in the fan base now.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't think it's as overwhelm overwhelmingly supportive as it
has been, but I think by and large a lot
of people do like Ruby and Rum and listen, whether
you like ruberin Adrio or not, we want him to succeed.
We want man She United to win games. And I
think he'll always have a sort of call backing in
that respect. But he has to do better because last season, okay,
you can say inherit a mess and you can call
it a bit of a right off. But this season
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it's had some signings, so.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
We have to move forward.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Since Sir Alex Ferguson left as your manager in twenty thirteen,
you've had David Moy's, Louis van Hale, Jose Mourinho, Oligana,
saw Shar, Eric tine Hagen their room and Emeron are
the shoes of Sir Alex simply too big to fill Jay.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
In some respects, Yeah, because obviously fans of a certain age,
including remember winning thirteen titles in twenty years, We remember
winning the Trouble, remember winning another Champions League in Moscow.
So it does loom over any manager, that sort of
big shadow. But he can't use that as an excuse.
Sir Alex Fergerson retired twelve years ago. The club have
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spent what nearly two billion pounds I think on transfers.
Managers have had opportunities, They've inherited squads who've got talented players,
and we've got talented players. Now Manchesterity might be a
lot of things, but this idea that the inside team
is terrible is just nonsense because you look at some
of the players that we've got and some of the
players we've brought in.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
There's a lot of talent there.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So managers can't just use the excuse of say, oh, well,
Fergie's boots are too big to fill. Eventually you have
to fill them. You have to have a level of
success at Manchester United. It's not necessarily you have to
be as good as so it's Fergus and I don't
think we'll get another manager who wins thirteen titles in
twenty years or stays at the club for twenty six
and a half years like Sir Alex did. But I
do think we can have a manager that delivers a title.
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I just don't know whether that is going to be
Ruben Hanrim.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I hope it is.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But the minute a title challenge, or let alone winning
one is looking a million miles away, it really is.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You mentioned a goalkeeper as a point of business during
the international window before the trains offer window closes. Are
there any other gips of your skips and the Manchester
you knowited squad at the moment and here do you
assist you see just before good players here do you
assist the squad at the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I think the issue we've got with the squad mainly
is goalkeeper and midfield. We haven't got that right combination
in midfield that works.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm a massive Cobby Maine who found I absolutely love him.
But has he got the legs and working a too
man midfield?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Also Casamiro's he got the legs to being a too
man midfield, I don't think he has. Are you getting
the best start of Bruno having him sitting deep when
he's alongside someone like Casamiro, I'm not sure you are,
because that midfield sort of double pivot, it just isn't working.
That needs to be solved now. There was Talker was
going in for Carlos Belabor from Brighton, who's got that energy,
He's got those legs that you need if you're going
to have a midfield that works in this system. But
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it doesn't look like we're going to get him in
the January, sorry, in the summer transfer window, so I
don't know what you're gonna do in the meantime. Maybe
he just keeps having to shuffle the pack manually. Guy
is not the player we were hoping he would be.
I mean, I know he's only into what his second season,
he's barely played this season, but from what we've seen
so far, it's just not been good enough.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So that's the biggest issue for me. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The goalkeeper, I'm say it again against Burnley out Bay
and there didn't cover himself in glory, just as Andre
Arna didn't against Grimsby.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
So the goalkeeper situation is something that needs a dress in.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Although I think the club are looking at getting the
Senes Laman's I'm sorry for Ann Swerp. He should be
coming in I think in the next twenty four hours.
And then you look at the midfield though, are we
going to get someone in or are we going to
have to just work with what we've got. That's going
to be a bit of a headache for the manager
because I think in terms of the lack of goals
last season, we've obviously brought in Brian and Boommel, Mattes
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Kuna and Benjamin Sesco to address that. You look at
the defense, Leonnard, Rro Mattes, the Lakes, Luke Shaw, Harry
Maguire all very talented defenders, even though wingbacks you've got
options there, but in that midfield it is a little
bit problematic.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't want to get too much of the yard.
But I did see a third of this week. I'm
sure you saw it too. Paul Scols might have pot
appy actually if him Roy Kane, Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Ryan
Giggs in Rio Ferd and watching.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
A penalty shoot.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, do you yearn for those days?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Do you know what? Right?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I always have an issue with that folk because I
remember that day. It was the two thousand and five
FA Cup Final where we lost those penalties to Arsenal,
So that just brings back that memory for me. So
everyone uses that picture as sort of nostalgia and this
just makes me angry because I remember we batted Arsenal
that day and then we missed the I think the schools,
he missed the panety and yeah, we ended up losing
the FA Cup finals.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So look, I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
There's just a host of legendary players on that picture.
I do miss those those players. I do miss those times,
and I do look at and think we are a
long way away from it. But we've been here before.
Manchester United have been through more than most clubs and
we always surprise people. We always bounce back. It's going
to take a little while. I'm hoping that in US
get it right and they have this planning place. I
think some of the more recent signings have been better.
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Not all been perfect by any stretch, but you can
see what they're trying to do. So yeah, we've just
got to have a little bit of faith and hope
that Manchester United can get back to where we belong
because the club, the size of mansch United, with the
history that you've mentioned, we should be challenging for Premier
League titles and backing the Champions League and challenging for
that not you know, relieve that we've got a night
seventh minute against night seventh minute winner against Burnley to
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give us our first Premier League winning the season.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
All right, just to finish thing joy? What is a
SETUS Factory Premier League season for Manchester United this season?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think, with all things considered, I think think getting
into Europe would be a success.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And I know, as a United fan who's.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Seen a lot of Gloria over the years, that is
a bit, you know, bit sort of almost negative and
a bit too bit, But we have to remember where
we were last.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Season we finished fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
This season we've still got a new new signings trying
to ingratiate themselves. I'm not saying they're not good players.
They are, and I think you look at other teams
that are above and around us, they've all improved as well.
So I just think get back into Europe, whether that's
the Europa League. Hopefully I'd rather the Champions League, but
it might not be that, but that is a bare
minimum for me. Get Manchester United back into Europe and
then you can build on that from there.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Thanks so much for your time across New Zealand today.
Jay enjoyed us one in the international break and we'll catch.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Up again soon. Take care. Thanks for chatting to us.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No thanks for joining us. JJ Motty, co host of
Stripford Peddick, an online Manchester United fan channel.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
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