October 25, 2025 • 10 mins
No specific details from Netball New Zealand over the changes that will occur in the Silver Ferns' high performance environment moving forward.
It comes as Dame Noeline Taurua's been reinstated as head coach, after an agreement with the governing body to implement undisclosed enhancements.
Netball NZ boss Jennie Wyllie's refused to go into the details, but says change is needed.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drops at six o'clock last night from Netburn, New Zealand.
The media release Netburn, New Zealand is pleased to confirm
Dame no Ling Poldor will return as silver Fern's head
coach effective today. To minimize disruption to the silver Ferns
currently competing international internationally. Interim coaching appointments will remain in
place until the conclusion of the Northern tour. Over the
(00:36):
past two months, Netborn, New Zealand and Dame Nororlean have
been working on changes to the silver Ferns program and environment.
They and it goes on have agreed to implement enhancements
to support well being and performance, including strengthening the player voice.
Joining us now to explain what that all means is
the Chief Executive Officer of Netburn, New Zealand, Jenny Wiley
(00:58):
on Newstalk ZEBB. Jenny, thank you for your time this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
How did you arrive at this decision to Dame Norlene
total back as silver Ferns coach.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, it's clearly something that we've been working on over
the last two months and we're just delighted that we've
been able to reach a resolution to this matter and
reinstate Dame Nolen as head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of the Soil Fairs. Did you have to meet in
the middle Howard negotiations?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, as you know, in a high performance environment, you're
dealing with people at the top end of their game,
whether that's coaches or athletes, and so for that very reason,
everyone wants to perform at their best and have processes
that were to allow that to happen. So for both
Netble New Zealand, Dame Nolen and for the athletes, it
(01:52):
was important to be able to ensure that we reached
a common understanding of what those things were and put
the process in place to move forward.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Your media release is Nepble New Zealand and Dame Nolean
have agreed to implement enhancement to support well being and performance,
including strengthening the player voice. Can you outline what exactly
that means for us, Jenny, Well, there's.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
A you know, I think across sport there is a
heightened awareness of the challenges of what is needed to
stay at the top of your game and how to
adapt and grow in the changing environment. That we find
ourselves in. So we are looking at a working group
of how we pull those enhancements together and what they
(02:38):
might look like to make sure that going forward, this
environment is fit for purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Does this mean that the players basically have more say
and then how things are running the team?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, I think for everyone to perform at your best,
you have to physically and mentally be able to be
at your best, and we've got to adapt our way
of working to make sure that we enable that. So
there will be increased level of engagement with players and
men to allow us to facilitate those changes.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Does this suggest that Dame Nolean's methods or coaching style
was maybe, I guess too old school for one of
a bit of terms.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I think what this tells us is we can't we
can't rest on our laurels. We can't do what we've
done historically and moving forward, we must continue to grow
and adapt and be different so that these civer Ferns
can be on the you know, on the world stage
and perform. Well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Are you happy with the resolution that's been reached?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think we have every confidence that we now
have agreement collectively on the changes that are required for
us to move forward and you know that we have
a pathway to reach that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Why is she only taking over again once the Northern
tours completed.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, Look, it has been a really difficult time for
everyone and we all agreed collectively to minimize disruption for
the cil Ferns. They have a really tight turnaround off
the end of Constellation Cup three days I think before
they head up to the Northern Tour, so we've all
agreed that that was best to be able to keep
(04:17):
the interim coaching structure in place to minimize any further
disruption for them.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
An Evets, mccaus and jury and that her assistant Leana
are happy with that as well.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, we've we've always been in contact with our coaches
to make sure that they're in a really challenging environment
with a lot of uncertainty, so it's been important to
be able to keep those lines of communications open and
they're really confident that they've got clarity of what they're
able to do in the direction of travel for that
(04:51):
Northern tour.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So Damielan's back in the job effective immediately, but not
coaching again for a few months. So what does she
do for the next few months? Is this. Should you
plan for the Commnwealth Games next year? Will what will
your expectations be?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh, in the intervening period, we will be working really
closely on the enhancements and changes in that environment. We'll
be doing that together.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Do you stand by the decision to stand her down
from the job? Jenny?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, we you know. I think I think we're really
clear that we could. We had concerns raised that warranted
us taking them seriously. Neple New Zealand has a duty
of care and as difficult as this has been and
the timing, we think Nepal will be better for this. Ultimately.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
In the media releases, there's nothing was found during the
process that called her integrity into into questions. So what
did you find during that process?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look, I think, as you will appreciate throughout, we are
not going to talk about the specifics of what those
concerns were. But what we are really confident is that
we have plans in place and we are able to
address them and that has always been the most important
thing for us. This was always about how do we listen,
(06:13):
learn and grow.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Has trust been broken? Do you think on either side
as a result of this process?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, I thank you. It's been challenging for everyone, hasn't
it Sure, and none of us wanted to be doing
this out in the out in the public eye. But
we will always maintained that this was always about bringing
Nolline back into the environment and in order to do
that where we need to be able to rebuild and
(06:46):
move forward. But I think what we do know is
we have made decisions that will be important to guide
the future of this game and that in the long
run we can do that together.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Did the comments from Mark Mitchell the Sports Minister this
week and talking about Sport New Zealand coming along and
perhaps intervening or trying to get this process to a resolution,
and did that expedite things over the last few days.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh? Look, it has been amazing to have the support
of Mark and Mark Richel and Sport New Zealand. But
we were really close to a resolution anyway before those
comments came out, So yeah, great to have their support
along the way.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Genny Wiley with us, Genny, how will you reintroduce Dame
Nolean Toto into the environment? Do you have to? You know,
I guess it's not until the players return from the
Northern Tour, But have you thought about that and how
you get them. Do you need to get them around
a table or into a camp or something like that,
so to reintroduce Dame Nolean into the environment.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I think what we have got is time while
the ferns are away on the northern camp, We've got
time to sit down and really think about what that
looks like. And we'll be using that time wisely to
ensure that we give this you know, heir to these
areas of change and make sure that we put them
in place really in an a sound and considered way.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
As have you spoken to any players as a result
of this and what was their reaction to this news?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, I think it was really important as key stakeholders
that players were aware they weren't surprised by any any position.
But as you will also acknowledge, they're in camp for
the Soul fans and they have Australia tomorrow, so they
now feel equipped to be able to address this and
then probably most of them are stoked that that there's
(08:40):
a resolution. So I think that's the focus now with
getting out there and performing well against Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Jenny, do you think Netborn New Zealand's reputation has taken
a hit from this whole saga. And how hard has
it been because I know you as an organization have
not said a lot and you've had to watch the
public feeling around this dissipate through talk back through social
media over the last couple of months. But do you
think your organization's reputation has taken a hit?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I think, as you say, we're playing this out in
the public eye, and generally not too many organizations need
to do that. I think what we have done is
that there is a heightened awareness of the challenges in
sport now. But ultimately, this is a game that is
one hundred years old. We're in good health, our playing
(09:28):
numbers of women and girls in this country are growing,
and those young people aspire to be silver Ferns. And
if we've got a silver ferns environment that is better
for this process, then in the long run, netball will
be better for this process.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And now you can focus on the test this afternoon
in Hamilton and hope that the Silver Fans get back
into the series with a victory in front of their
home fans.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh, there's nothing better than a home crowd to support
our silver Ferns. They always rise to the occasion, so
we're looking forward to both Hamilton today and christ Church
on Wednesday to be able to put some good netball
out on court.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Ginny, appreciate your time with us on News Talk ZIBB
this afternoon. Go well.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That was Genny Wiley, the chief executive of Nitborne, New Zealand,
joining us on News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZIBB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drops at six o'clock last night from Netburn, New Zealand.
The media release Netburn, New Zealand is pleased to confirm
Dame no Ling Poldor will return as silver Fern's head
coach effective today. To minimize disruption to the silver Ferns
currently competing international internationally. Interim coaching appointments will remain in
place until the conclusion of the Northern tour. Over the
(00:36):
past two months, Netborn, New Zealand and Dame Nororlean have
been working on changes to the silver Ferns program and environment.
They and it goes on have agreed to implement enhancements
to support well being and performance, including strengthening the player voice.
Joining us now to explain what that all means is
the Chief Executive Officer of Netburn, New Zealand, Jenny Wiley
(00:58):
on Newstalk ZEBB. Jenny, thank you for your time this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
How did you arrive at this decision to Dame Norlene
total back as silver Ferns coach.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, it's clearly something that we've been working on over
the last two months and we're just delighted that we've
been able to reach a resolution to this matter and
reinstate Dame Nolen as head coach.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of the Soil Fairs. Did you have to meet in
the middle Howard negotiations?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, as you know, in a high performance environment, you're
dealing with people at the top end of their game,
whether that's coaches or athletes, and so for that very reason,
everyone wants to perform at their best and have processes
that were to allow that to happen. So for both
Netble New Zealand, Dame Nolen and for the athletes, it
(01:52):
was important to be able to ensure that we reached
a common understanding of what those things were and put
the process in place to move forward.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Your media release is Nepble New Zealand and Dame Nolean
have agreed to implement enhancement to support well being and performance,
including strengthening the player voice. Can you outline what exactly
that means for us, Jenny, Well, there's.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
A you know, I think across sport there is a
heightened awareness of the challenges of what is needed to
stay at the top of your game and how to
adapt and grow in the changing environment. That we find
ourselves in. So we are looking at a working group
of how we pull those enhancements together and what they
(02:38):
might look like to make sure that going forward, this
environment is fit for purpose.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Does this mean that the players basically have more say
and then how things are running the team?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, I think for everyone to perform at your best,
you have to physically and mentally be able to be
at your best, and we've got to adapt our way
of working to make sure that we enable that. So
there will be increased level of engagement with players and
men to allow us to facilitate those changes.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Does this suggest that Dame Nolean's methods or coaching style
was maybe, I guess too old school for one of
a bit of terms.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I think what this tells us is we can't we
can't rest on our laurels. We can't do what we've
done historically and moving forward, we must continue to grow
and adapt and be different so that these civer Ferns
can be on the you know, on the world stage
and perform. Well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Are you happy with the resolution that's been reached?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think we have every confidence that we now
have agreement collectively on the changes that are required for
us to move forward and you know that we have
a pathway to reach that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Why is she only taking over again once the Northern
tours completed.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, Look, it has been a really difficult time for
everyone and we all agreed collectively to minimize disruption for
the cil Ferns. They have a really tight turnaround off
the end of Constellation Cup three days I think before
they head up to the Northern Tour, so we've all
agreed that that was best to be able to keep
(04:17):
the interim coaching structure in place to minimize any further
disruption for them.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
An Evets, mccaus and jury and that her assistant Leana
are happy with that as well.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, we've we've always been in contact with our coaches
to make sure that they're in a really challenging environment
with a lot of uncertainty, so it's been important to
be able to keep those lines of communications open and
they're really confident that they've got clarity of what they're
able to do in the direction of travel for that
(04:51):
Northern tour.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So Damielan's back in the job effective immediately, but not
coaching again for a few months. So what does she
do for the next few months? Is this. Should you
plan for the Commnwealth Games next year? Will what will
your expectations be?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh, in the intervening period, we will be working really
closely on the enhancements and changes in that environment. We'll
be doing that together.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Do you stand by the decision to stand her down
from the job? Jenny?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, we you know. I think I think we're really
clear that we could. We had concerns raised that warranted
us taking them seriously. Neple New Zealand has a duty
of care and as difficult as this has been and
the timing, we think Nepal will be better for this. Ultimately.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
In the media releases, there's nothing was found during the
process that called her integrity into into questions. So what
did you find during that process?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look, I think, as you will appreciate throughout, we are
not going to talk about the specifics of what those
concerns were. But what we are really confident is that
we have plans in place and we are able to
address them and that has always been the most important
thing for us. This was always about how do we listen,
(06:13):
learn and grow.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Has trust been broken? Do you think on either side
as a result of this process?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, I thank you. It's been challenging for everyone, hasn't
it Sure, and none of us wanted to be doing
this out in the out in the public eye. But
we will always maintained that this was always about bringing
Nolline back into the environment and in order to do
that where we need to be able to rebuild and
(06:46):
move forward. But I think what we do know is
we have made decisions that will be important to guide
the future of this game and that in the long
run we can do that together.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Did the comments from Mark Mitchell the Sports Minister this
week and talking about Sport New Zealand coming along and
perhaps intervening or trying to get this process to a resolution,
and did that expedite things over the last few days.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh? Look, it has been amazing to have the support
of Mark and Mark Richel and Sport New Zealand. But
we were really close to a resolution anyway before those
comments came out, So yeah, great to have their support
along the way.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Genny Wiley with us, Genny, how will you reintroduce Dame
Nolean Toto into the environment? Do you have to? You know,
I guess it's not until the players return from the
Northern Tour, But have you thought about that and how
you get them. Do you need to get them around
a table or into a camp or something like that,
so to reintroduce Dame Nolean into the environment.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I think what we have got is time while
the ferns are away on the northern camp, We've got
time to sit down and really think about what that
looks like. And we'll be using that time wisely to
ensure that we give this you know, heir to these
areas of change and make sure that we put them
in place really in an a sound and considered way.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
As have you spoken to any players as a result
of this and what was their reaction to this news?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, I think it was really important as key stakeholders
that players were aware they weren't surprised by any any position.
But as you will also acknowledge, they're in camp for
the Soul fans and they have Australia tomorrow, so they
now feel equipped to be able to address this and
then probably most of them are stoked that that there's
(08:40):
a resolution. So I think that's the focus now with
getting out there and performing well against Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Jenny, do you think Netborn New Zealand's reputation has taken
a hit from this whole saga. And how hard has
it been because I know you as an organization have
not said a lot and you've had to watch the
public feeling around this dissipate through talk back through social
media over the last couple of months. But do you
think your organization's reputation has taken a hit?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I think, as you say, we're playing this out in
the public eye, and generally not too many organizations need
to do that. I think what we have done is
that there is a heightened awareness of the challenges in
sport now. But ultimately, this is a game that is
one hundred years old. We're in good health, our playing
(09:28):
numbers of women and girls in this country are growing,
and those young people aspire to be silver Ferns. And
if we've got a silver ferns environment that is better
for this process, then in the long run, netball will
be better for this process.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And now you can focus on the test this afternoon
in Hamilton and hope that the Silver Fans get back
into the series with a victory in front of their
home fans.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh, there's nothing better than a home crowd to support
our silver Ferns. They always rise to the occasion, so
we're looking forward to both Hamilton today and christ Church
on Wednesday to be able to put some good netball
out on court.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Ginny, appreciate your time with us on News Talk ZIBB
this afternoon. Go well.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That was Genny Wiley, the chief executive of Nitborne, New Zealand,
joining us on News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZIBB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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