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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks edb Let's Move.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's thirteen past one. The black Caps pace bowling stocks
have been bolstered for the upcoming Chapel Headley T twenty
series against Australia at Bay Oval in the first week
of October.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Jamison is then outside the line of off Starck. Has
he been taken at third slip?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That must be Tim Salvey. Terrific strike from Jamison, so
he's got a missub of Jameson appeal for LBW and
he's given. He's Gottenrant corle Lee and goes Jamison.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Two parte court.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's second slip outside edge off Jamison Jamison and he's
edged and it's caught by Ross Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
He has the wickets of Ishad Shama. Jamison approaches for
his first livery angler listen and an appeal for LBW
and givin second consecutive wicket for Kyl Jamison. Kyle Jamison's back,
as has been Sears, joining Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy and
Zach Folks as the fast bowling options. Ben Sears is
back having recovered from a side strain and Kyle Jamison
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is now a dad, missing the recent series in zimbabweit
to welcome the birth of he and his partner's first child.
Kyle Jamison is with us. Let's start there. Actually, how's
parentshood going.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, it's been good. It's certainly been a different well, yeah,
it gives a bit of a change of pace from
what I've been used to. But now I've been loving it.
It's been lovely to be home and yeah, and to
support my partner and just be here to speak here
for the first little bit of his life. So yeah,
that's been good.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Fun top stuff. Congratulations to you both. You've never played
Australia in Test or one day cricket. This will be
the first time you've played them in T twenty cricket
since twenty twenty one, so how much you're looking forward
to playing our closest neighbors again.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, look, it will be good as love to. Like
you said, I haven't paid them in tests already eyes
yet and you know, like growing up, it's always you
know the thing that I guess most key week cricketers
sort of watch and has has the most eyeballs on,
so I guess to be a part of to be
part of another New Zealand Aussie series and to have
the Chapel Hadley now on the line as well for
the Tea twenties as as Yeah, I'm going to be
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called to.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Be a part of and the names I read out yourself,
Ben Sears joining Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy, Zach Folks. It's
a pretty potent looking past bowling Quintete, isn't it. How
exciting is the prospect of bowling in tandem with those guys.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, we had a little bit of a taste
of I guess in parts over the last sort of
twelve months. But yeah, like you said, there's been a
pretty pretty exciting sort of group of bowl at the moment.
Obviously there's a few couple of guys sitting out the
moment as well, So yeah, we've got a good, good
crop of fast balls at the moment. I think we
all sort of have ol sort of own unique strength.
So yeah, he good to get in camping and to
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link up with ye think up with those boys again
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So this will be your first cricket since mid year.
You played in the Pakistan Super League and then the IPL.
It was a bit disrupted though, wasn't it paused because
of the unrest between Pakistan and India. Can you tell
us what that time was like?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, it was a little bit, I guess, just sort
of not really sure what's going on, and it was
so I had to just sort of roll with the
punches a little bit. But look, I love my time
both in Pakistan and in there, and it was nice
to just get I guess, a consistent runner cricket off
the back of my last couple of years, so to
be back in those environments and I love you love
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being back in the IPL and g set the back
end of that tournament with some of those high pressure games,
and just fortunate that, I guess the way things unfolded,
I was able to go over there and just have
a good runner cricket and some of those high pressure moments.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You can you just tell us how that unfolded because
you were playing Pakistan Super League, you came home, went
back but to the IPL with the Punjab Kings. How
did that all play out? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was really sort of got home from Pakistan, was
obviously a little bit unsure around you know, if things
were going to restart, and if they were then I
guess when they were going to and I hadn't been
playing a huge amount in Pakistan and they kind of
just said, look, look, if you want to stay at
home and not come back, then that's okay by us.
And then so that kind of unfolding. About twelve hours later,
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the chance to go to India popped up, and I
was still still sort of ready for some cricket and
especially getting back to the IPL and being a get
at the back end of that tournament. Yeah, it was
too good, too good an opportunity to pass up. So yeah,
a little bit of a funny one sort of going
both tournaments, but you're glad it kind of all worked out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And did you take Lockie Ferguson's place at Punjab?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah? I did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's funny how this game works sometimes, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And so you go back over there play the last
four games, including the IPL Grand Final against for all
challenges being delarue.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
What was that like? It was actually awesome. I loved it.
Like I obviously had a very different experience in twenty
twenty one when I was last last at the IPL
and during COVID and a little bit of a I guess, yeah,
a slightly different situation, so to go to go over there,
I think in a far different place than I was
sort of four years ago and just be involved in
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those last four games are all sort of high pressure games,
finals games, and I just loved it. I think, off
the back of probably where I was twelve months ago
and I'm not really sure whether I was going to
be playing cricket again, to be back in that arena
and back in an IPL final and just found it
to be really present and kind of just soak that up.
I just absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Just tell us a bit more about that than Carle.
The injuries you've had, Was there a point in the
not too dis in past where you thought you might
not play again?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, yeah, there was a really realistic kind of I
guess place that I was in when I sort of
started last year. There wasn't really huge amount of answers
within cricket, and I was sort of staring down the
barrel of just doing the same thing and expecting some
different results. So I guess I was very fortunate I
came across some people externally that had a fair amount
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of answers and just went about I guess rebuilding, rebuilding
my body from scratch. And I guess once I sort
of linked in with him, I was pretty optimistic that
I was going to have a different outcome and yeah,
we're sort of going to be in a better place
once they got through that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is it your is it your lower back?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What has caused you the most problems? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, just in my love back sort of that same
sort of spot at AL four and yeah, just a
couple of couple of stresses in there, and just I
gets the nature of being tall and trying to bowl
fast and trying to do all that sort of stuff
put pressure on there. But at the same time it
was just, yeah, my body wasn't stacked up anywhere there
where it needed to be. And you know, when you're
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sort of face with I guess the pressure the fast
by it didn't didn't quite hack up, but you're certainly
far bit the place now. And went back and rebuilt
everything and fix the things that I hadn't done previously,
and yeah, make sure we got it right. This done.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So you just so there were times when when the
advice you were getting was, hey, this isn't working. We're
doing the same things. Nothing's changing. So what you just
basically refuse to accept that and just sort a different
type of advice. And lucky you did, because here we are.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah. I mean I always had a bit of a
gut feeling that there was there was more out there.
And I don't know why I did, but I just
felt like there was just something I was missing and
we kind of, you know, through the previous rehabs, it
was it was rest and then but just build up
and do the same thing. There was never any real
focus on trying to fix anything or find any answers.
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And this time around, it kind of, you know, when
there wasn't really too much on the table to change,
I sort of felt like it was a good opportunity
to try and just seek seek some different advice. And
once I did, there was you know, a whole heap
of arts and solutions on the table that just made
a whole lot of sense to me. So some embarked
on that and kind of week by week, each each
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time I sort of I went through that process, I
sort of, I guess, grew in belief that there actually
was a fair amount of arsis out there and as
long as I sort of put the work in them
and did all the right things that there was a
ficially good chance I'd be back in a far bit
of place. So yeah, certainly glad I found that at
the point I did have.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You had to make changes to your bowling action.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Uh, yeah, a little bit. I mean it was kind
of I think things that probably changed just naturally through
some of the stuff I had to do. I guess
in terms of changing the sort of foundation of my
body a little bit, there's been. Yeah, probably some changes
if you if you go back and have a little
bit look at the footage, but not not drastically. I
think it's just how I used my body and I
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guess to the maximum effect and not trying to I
guess find ways to compensate or putting extratress in a
body that I don't need to eat.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
How did you deal with the most frustrating times?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Uh, I don't know, it's a great question. It certainly
had to sort of grip my teeth at times, and yeah,
it wasn't It wasn't easy by any means, but it
was just sort of focusing on the on the endpoint,
I wanted to get that plan and I didn't want
to be I guess done with Cracker. I didn't want
to be it's the first person to sort of have
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the have the surgery and it not works. So there
was certainly some emotions as that are tied into the
motivational piece, but it wasn't wasn't easy by any means.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, it's great to have you back. And what are
you now? Thirty nearly thirty one, so you must feel
as though you've still got a few years left.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, for sure. I mean it feels like thirty now,
but I've sort of also had two years of cricket
where I haven't I guess, has had any use in
the body. So now I still feel like I've got
a fair seremon a head of me and got a
really good team and really good system in place now
that I feel like I will support my I guess
body moving forward, So lots less than the tank for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's great now. And I was going to ask you
about Test cricket as well. I mean, your Test cricket
records just brilliant. Eighty wickets and those nineteen Tests at
nineteen five five wicket bags, at eleven wicket haul against Pakistan,
fifty wickets in your ninth Test, but you haven't played
Test cricket for a while. In fact, no red ball
cricket that I can see since February twenty twenty four.
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So do you still have strong red ball ambitions?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, for sure. I mean like a little bit of
it has been due to the schedule, Like I only
started playing around the Super Smash times. There wasn't much
red bull cricket when I've been back playing since the
start of the year. But yeah, it's certainly on the table.
It's like I'm more of a chance than I would
have been if I hadn't followed the path that I have.
So look, it's on the table. It's just making sure
we did it and in a smart way and not
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just rush rush back because we want to win games
right now. So yeah, look on the table for sure,
and that's something that I'm definitely working towards and just
when it is worth to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So might we see you possibly in December against the
Weast Indies.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Possibly, Yeah, possibly. We're just seem sort of week to
week at the moment, and then that's the I guess.
The plan is to is to work back to red
ball cricket, and that's I guess the I guess yeah,
the path at the moment, but where that spits out,
we'll just have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Have you been able to get in the nets and
bat as well? Could your bat when you were rehabbing
or not?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Really? Yeah, yeah, I've done lots of it, so I
thort of you know, obviously through the rehab part you
kind of take your medicine and take a bit of rest.
But yeah, to able to pick up the bat and
put a fair amount of work into that, so yeah,
that sort of keep me saying for a little bit
of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Good stuff. Well, stoke to have you back. Looking forward
to these Chap the Hadley games just finally. I mean,
they come thick and fast, don't There's a three games
in four days. That's going to be an interesting challenge
for you as well, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, thankfully we're all on one spot, so we just
sort of park up at the Mount for a week,
so it'll be nice. But yeah, they do come thick
and fast in the first week of October, so I'm
hoping whether it plays ball we ever. Yeah, have cracking theories.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing it again. Great to
have you back, Kyle, thanks for chatting to us today, mate.
All the best for the series and for the rest
of the summer as well.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, I appreciate your time, Kyle. Thanks indeed, Kyle Jamison
there great to have him back. Let's just keep our
fingers crossed for for no more injuries for Kyle. It's
been such a wretched time for him and listening to
him talk there, man, it must have been must have
been a dark place he got to when you know,
you think that he thought that he might not play again,
you know, for a guy who just exploded onto the tests,
big part of our World Test Championship winning twenty twenty one,
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and to have so much trouble with injuries must have
been entirely frustrating for him. So it's hope he's out
the back of that. Keep our fingers crossed, Stephen on
textas Willow Rock Jason seems to be missing from that lineup,
when would he be available again? To add even more depth?
Good questions, Steve and I can answer it too, because
Willow Rourke has yet to be out of action for
at least three months after scans revealed a stress fracture
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in his lower back. So goodness mean, let's just hope
that Willow Rourke doesn't go through the same sort of
thing that Kyle Jamison has. He's only twenty four. Willow Rourke.
He's sustained the injury while bowling in the first Test
against Zimbabwe and returned home to undergo further assessment. A
Rob Walter, the coach, says he'll undergo a three month
strength and conditioning block before being reassessed to ascertain a
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return to bowling and a return to play.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We won't see Willow Rock the side of Christmas, so
that rules them out of those Test matches against the
West Indies in December, but also all the White Bulls
stuff to come this Chapel Hadley whiteball games against England
and the West Indies, so I once see will I
Rock in any of that. Let's hope we get past Christmas,
the strength and conditioning program goes well and he is
back into it in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
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