IIHF President Luc Tardif made an appearance at the World Women’s Division IIB Ice Hockey Championship in Dunedin.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It is my great pleasure to welcome into the News
Talks HEB studio the president of the International Ice Hockey Federation,
Luke Tardif, who is with us. Welcome in, Luke, Welcome
to New Zealand. Welcome to News Talks EDB. What is
it that brings you to New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So since a long time I wanted to to come
in New Zealand, but uh, that was the best time
to come a tournament, pretty soon to tournament and UH
and also we.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We work together.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
And he is involved in the International in the in
in the commission, so that was about time that I
come to help him meet the high authority sport authority
here in in New Zealand to to talk about ice
hockey and UH and also to help the federation with
(01:15):
a uh to to to get better and and and
need some help. And that's always good to come like
that to see exactly on site what they need. How
is it and UH, that's always interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Tell us about your job as president of the International
Ice Hockey Federation. What are your key responsibilities?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
First of all, the International Federation got to coordinate all
the competition in the world with private league, with the
Olympic and uh and also there is not only the tup.
There is what we call the the competition of development.
(02:07):
First the woman under eighteen, under twenty and all the development.
So that means the education of coach and everything. So
that's our job, and I think my most important job
is in IHF. There is international so that means try
(02:31):
to bring isaake all over the world and even some
place that you never thought Oki can be played.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You have eighty five member nations, all at different levels
of their development, varying needs, lots of different economies, cultures, etc.
How do you navigate such variance within your member nations.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, but first of all I talk about the development
all over the world. So we have to our organize
the Top Heaven competition. It will be next month in Stockholm.
That's our main organization and that's important also because the
the income of this World Championship made possible to maintain
(03:26):
all the activity of development what I call the nonprofit organization,
so the female tournament under twenty, under eighteen and all
the division under so that's important to keep this high
level competition because it's it's going to help us to
(03:51):
do all the rest so and the international So that
means that's a that's what I'm doing here.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So that means not the.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Historical place for eyesc that's more rugby, but there is
a place for AACHI. But I have to be there
by the side of the federation to convince that we
do that seriously, that we are happy about our member
because he's doing the things online of the sports policy
(04:26):
of IHF. So that means our job is somewhere more development.
Because outside organized the competition for the high level Canada, USA, Finland, Russia,
they don't need me to for the development, but all
(04:48):
the new member that's where that's where I have to
be by the side.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
How important is the growth and development of the female game?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Oh, just to give you an idea, we made a
calculation just that that's uh two weeks ago and after
the COVID we get an increase of somewhere five point
five percent of.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Male players but twenty five for the woman. So there
is a.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Huge progression everywhere in the world and sometimes in a
different country that you never expect. Here in the tournament,
there is female team from Turkey Iron is playing also,
and no, there is a I think that's not only
Isaki that's female sport in globally, but for Isaky that's
(05:48):
really spectacular.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What's the nature of your relationship with the NHL and
other professional leagues the top legs around.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
The world, because there is an HL, but there is
KHL that's a Russian league. At the moment, the relations
are a little bit on standby if I can say
about the NHL.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
First of all, we.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Took two years of negotiation to try to bring them
back in the Olympic.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We're almost there.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, I think since soci we didn't have an HL
for a lot of reason, but now we're going to
make it. We're trying to not only for one Olympic,
but maybe two, and the third one is in Salt
Lake City, so it should naturally the NHL should be there.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So there is this.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
For our competition the Olympic. But after that also we
want because they want to come somewhere in the market
of Europe, so we organize our wors championship in Europe.
So we want a certain coordination. We are a nonprofit organization.
They're coming to make money, so sometimes we have to
(07:10):
make sure that there is an understanding who's doing what,
because in the coordination of our competition, we want to
protect our word championship, so that on this side that's
not an easy relationship. But somewhere our passion is the
(07:33):
same sport. They want more make money with this than
than I want. But we have to live with this
because I think there is a turn. A lot of
private organization are coming in in UH in the business
of international competition, there is a lot of track and
(07:57):
field private organization where they give price money. Sometimes the
athletes they will go where there is money and they
they are not coming that tray. So it's really difficult
for international federation. That's a natural process. But if international
(08:20):
federation doesn't take care of all the development, who's going
to do that the custom money? So that's not good
for a to take older. That's something who I'm really
worried about what's coming and but we have to continue
to fight and protect our our I say that our system.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The return of the INNHL appliers to the Olympics, the
Winter Olympics. As an understand it's as you say, pretty
much done for twenty twenty six and twenty thirty and
in Salt Lake City it seems obvious, so hopefully that's
a permanent thing. How significant is that to have in
HL pliers back at the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
For first of all, as an international federation, you have
to organize and try to bring the best player all
the time, even for a world championship, but the schedule
of NHL is not completely We got a lot of
NHL player, but sometimes those who are in the semi
final final, they cannot participate. Our job that's to do that,
(09:23):
but that's not so easy because now they've got huge contracts.
So you mean the ansurance just to give you an
idea for this Olympic game to insert all the player
and now we get a professional woman league, So that's more.
(09:45):
We're talking about twelve or between twelve and thirteen million
to answer. And now NHL they had the discussion with
the NHLPA and they increase the salary cap. So that
means in twenty thirty we're going to have another increase
of not for the eighty or one hundred percent. So
(10:09):
I'm worried because one day maybe it will make it
them possible. But step by step, focused on Milano. After that, we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
See all right, and three on three hockey, you've been
experimenting with that with a view to its potential inclusion
in the Winter Olympics twenty thirty. I think, how confided
are you that that three on three will be an
Olympic sport?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, first of all, that's we really, we really want
to push that because if you follow the Olympic game
in Paris, the success of rugby seven, the three on
three basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Earlier, that was visually that's another.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
So that means I really believe in that a new format,
more adapted to the new generation. You know, watch a
hockey game two hours and a half the kids that
they are more zapping, and like when you look at
(11:15):
rugby seven, you better to watch because that's short time
that sentence. And I think you can play two games,
three games and in the same day.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's more.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
According to the new generations. And I think also it's
a little bit more adapted to development country. We can
see it in rugby seven. Have a full team of
a good player bringing together thirty players, that's difficult. Thirteen
(11:56):
fifteen Fiji compete. I saw Kenya start to have results Uruguay,
so that's more adapted and I think that's that's.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The way I think. IOC.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You want to try to find some discipline a little
bit more adapted to the new generation.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So we have to be there with three on three.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The only thing is it's not only the organization for
the Olympic, because we had to build all a championship behind,
so that means we have to make sure that we've
got the resources to do so. That means we have
to be a little bit prugh then, But I don't
know if it's going to be on twenty thirty, that's
(12:43):
not going to be in Milano, but thirty four we
should be there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I guess you also have to be aware of geopolitics
in your role. Russia, of course, has been banned from
competition since the Ukraine invasion February twenty twenty two Belarus
for their support of the war. Would you like to
see Russia and Belarus rejoin the International Ice Hockey fault.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I used to say this this statement to resume a
little bit. We want bell Ewis and Russian back as
soon as possible. That's the first part of the sentence,
because it will meet the situation will be better and
the world will be over, so they will be back.
(13:26):
We want them back not too early because we're gonna
have some other problem. Now there is in lots of
country they cannot travel, they don't have a visa. There
is a question of security. So we've got it in mind.
We wanted to adapt to the situation year by year.
(13:50):
Usually in February we decide for the World Championship after
and every time we hope that the situation will be better. Now,
mister Trump was opposed to solve that war in twenty
four hours. It's going to take a little bit more.
(14:11):
But we were watching it with adding all the planet.
We But yes, we want them as soon as possible
because that's that's a big part of the family. But
I cannot solve the war. I'm just trying to watch
when it will be the best time to.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Bring them back. But they have to do a bit
of the job.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Look, what is your vision for ice hockey globally? What
is your ideal vision for the game?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
For me, ice hockey is a modern sport. There is
a special gear that's fast. So that means that we
got success in some country that we were a little
bit surprised, like since the cycle of two Winter Olympic Games,
(15:05):
in Asia. There is a big jump in Asia, Chinese.
I think they taste what is was hoki. I was
worried that after the game there is a little bit
less interest. No, they build more than three hundred ice
ring the sixth year before and now they use it.
(15:29):
So they organize a symposium. They want to organize competition
and uh. And when you see the potential of hoke
player a male and female in China, uh and uh
so that means there and outside of Asia, uh, the
(15:49):
country of uh Emira. They will organize in Saudi Arabia
in twenty twenty nine Winter Sport Asian Winter Sport Olympic.
There is a Thailand now is is growing. They build
the ice rink, and Philippine and now that's uh, that's
(16:16):
not crazy to think that you can play hockey even
in the Northern Africa. Africa, so hockey can be everywhere.
And I used to say that maybe I'm not objective,
but when you start to play, when you taste that,
you cannot come back to Vanilla.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I love that your job, your job must take you
all around the world. Are you ever at home? Do
you ever see your wife?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, But Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know, first of all, I did in the cheata
of what I sell when we get married, because I'm
just getting better.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Huh. But yes, but but that's a part of my
job first.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But uh, you know, we sometimes we try together.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So, and the big events like the World Championships, she's there.
And what I'm trying to do is I'm not a
lot at home, but when I'm at home, I want
to really be there. And so that means and so
(17:28):
my mandate will finish. I don't know at the end
of September, so let's see. But I like what I'm doing,
and I think she's happy when I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Wonderful. Last question, can you watch ice hockey as a
fan or are you too invested in the games as
it's president or are you able to still watch a
game of ice hockey and appreciate it for the sport
that it is.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, I'm watching again for the sport.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Sometimes I've got in mind you're a president, so that
means you have to be neutral. But no, I'm watching
the game doesn't matter who won, even when Frands is playing,
So that means that I watched the game for the
(18:20):
I mean, the the spectacular U how is our ice
hockey can be sometimes so exciting. No uh, as the
President sometimes said, Oh I'm gonna have something to solve
for discipline things or something like that. So that's a
(18:43):
reality to come back. But in my mind, I'm still
a hockey player. I've got a new responsibility, but I'm
still the the fans, but not on the bad side of.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Of what is a fan? Uh, hockey lover, A.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hockey lover who sounds like the ideal man to be
heading up the sport. Luke, It's been great to have
you in studio, Enjoy the rest of you stay here
in New Zealand and hope to catch up again soon.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
No, thank you, Luke. Luke Tardiff the President of the
International Ice Hockey Federation here in New Zealand for the
couple of tournaments which happening. One of those is down
in Dunedin at the moment.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
It is my great pleasure to welcome into the News
Talks HEB studio the president of the International Ice Hockey Federation,
Luke Tardif, who is with us. Welcome in, Luke, Welcome
to New Zealand. Welcome to News Talks EDB. What is
it that brings you to New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So since a long time I wanted to to come
in New Zealand, but uh, that was the best time
to come a tournament, pretty soon to tournament and UH
and also we.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We work together.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
And he is involved in the International in the in
in the commission, so that was about time that I
come to help him meet the high authority sport authority
here in in New Zealand to to talk about ice
hockey and UH and also to help the federation with
(01:15):
a uh to to to get better and and and
need some help. And that's always good to come like
that to see exactly on site what they need. How
is it and UH, that's always interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Tell us about your job as president of the International
Ice Hockey Federation. What are your key responsibilities?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
First of all, the International Federation got to coordinate all
the competition in the world with private league, with the
Olympic and uh and also there is not only the tup.
There is what we call the the competition of development.
(02:07):
First the woman under eighteen, under twenty and all the development.
So that means the education of coach and everything. So
that's our job, and I think my most important job
is in IHF. There is international so that means try
(02:31):
to bring isaake all over the world and even some
place that you never thought Oki can be played.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You have eighty five member nations, all at different levels
of their development, varying needs, lots of different economies, cultures, etc.
How do you navigate such variance within your member nations.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, but first of all I talk about the development
all over the world. So we have to our organize
the Top Heaven competition. It will be next month in Stockholm.
That's our main organization and that's important also because the
the income of this World Championship made possible to maintain
(03:26):
all the activity of development what I call the nonprofit organization,
so the female tournament under twenty, under eighteen and all
the division under so that's important to keep this high
level competition because it's it's going to help us to
(03:51):
do all the rest so and the international So that
means that's a that's what I'm doing here.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So that means not the.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Historical place for eyesc that's more rugby, but there is
a place for AACHI. But I have to be there
by the side of the federation to convince that we
do that seriously, that we are happy about our member
because he's doing the things online of the sports policy
(04:26):
of IHF. So that means our job is somewhere more development.
Because outside organized the competition for the high level Canada, USA, Finland, Russia,
they don't need me to for the development, but all
(04:48):
the new member that's where that's where I have to
be by the side.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
How important is the growth and development of the female game?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Oh, just to give you an idea, we made a
calculation just that that's uh two weeks ago and after
the COVID we get an increase of somewhere five point
five percent of.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Male players but twenty five for the woman. So there
is a.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Huge progression everywhere in the world and sometimes in a
different country that you never expect. Here in the tournament,
there is female team from Turkey Iron is playing also,
and no, there is a I think that's not only
Isaki that's female sport in globally, but for Isaky that's
(05:48):
really spectacular.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What's the nature of your relationship with the NHL and
other professional leagues the top legs around.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
The world, because there is an HL, but there is
KHL that's a Russian league. At the moment, the relations
are a little bit on standby if I can say
about the NHL.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
First of all, we.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Took two years of negotiation to try to bring them
back in the Olympic.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
We're almost there.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, I think since soci we didn't have an HL
for a lot of reason, but now we're going to
make it. We're trying to not only for one Olympic,
but maybe two, and the third one is in Salt
Lake City, so it should naturally the NHL should be there.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So there is this.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
For our competition the Olympic. But after that also we
want because they want to come somewhere in the market
of Europe, so we organize our wors championship in Europe.
So we want a certain coordination. We are a nonprofit organization.
They're coming to make money, so sometimes we have to
(07:10):
make sure that there is an understanding who's doing what,
because in the coordination of our competition, we want to
protect our word championship, so that on this side that's
not an easy relationship. But somewhere our passion is the
(07:33):
same sport. They want more make money with this than
than I want. But we have to live with this
because I think there is a turn. A lot of
private organization are coming in in UH in the business
of international competition, there is a lot of track and
(07:57):
field private organization where they give price money. Sometimes the
athletes they will go where there is money and they
they are not coming that tray. So it's really difficult
for international federation. That's a natural process. But if international
(08:20):
federation doesn't take care of all the development, who's going
to do that the custom money? So that's not good
for a to take older. That's something who I'm really
worried about what's coming and but we have to continue
to fight and protect our our I say that our system.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The return of the INNHL appliers to the Olympics, the
Winter Olympics. As an understand it's as you say, pretty
much done for twenty twenty six and twenty thirty and
in Salt Lake City it seems obvious, so hopefully that's
a permanent thing. How significant is that to have in
HL pliers back at the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
For first of all, as an international federation, you have
to organize and try to bring the best player all
the time, even for a world championship, but the schedule
of NHL is not completely We got a lot of
NHL player, but sometimes those who are in the semi
final final, they cannot participate. Our job that's to do that,
(09:23):
but that's not so easy because now they've got huge contracts.
So you mean the ansurance just to give you an
idea for this Olympic game to insert all the player
and now we get a professional woman league, So that's more.
(09:45):
We're talking about twelve or between twelve and thirteen million
to answer. And now NHL they had the discussion with
the NHLPA and they increase the salary cap. So that
means in twenty thirty we're going to have another increase
of not for the eighty or one hundred percent. So
(10:09):
I'm worried because one day maybe it will make it
them possible. But step by step, focused on Milano. After that, we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
See all right, and three on three hockey, you've been
experimenting with that with a view to its potential inclusion
in the Winter Olympics twenty thirty. I think, how confided
are you that that three on three will be an
Olympic sport?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, first of all, that's we really, we really want
to push that because if you follow the Olympic game
in Paris, the success of rugby seven, the three on
three basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Earlier, that was visually that's another.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
So that means I really believe in that a new format,
more adapted to the new generation. You know, watch a
hockey game two hours and a half the kids that
they are more zapping, and like when you look at
(11:15):
rugby seven, you better to watch because that's short time
that sentence. And I think you can play two games,
three games and in the same day.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's more.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
According to the new generations. And I think also it's
a little bit more adapted to development country. We can
see it in rugby seven. Have a full team of
a good player bringing together thirty players, that's difficult. Thirteen
(11:56):
fifteen Fiji compete. I saw Kenya start to have results Uruguay,
so that's more adapted and I think that's that's.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The way I think. IOC.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You want to try to find some discipline a little
bit more adapted to the new generation.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So we have to be there with three on three.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The only thing is it's not only the organization for
the Olympic, because we had to build all a championship behind,
so that means we have to make sure that we've
got the resources to do so. That means we have
to be a little bit prugh then, But I don't
know if it's going to be on twenty thirty, that's
(12:43):
not going to be in Milano, but thirty four we
should be there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I guess you also have to be aware of geopolitics
in your role. Russia, of course, has been banned from
competition since the Ukraine invasion February twenty twenty two Belarus
for their support of the war. Would you like to
see Russia and Belarus rejoin the International Ice Hockey fault.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I used to say this this statement to resume a
little bit. We want bell Ewis and Russian back as
soon as possible. That's the first part of the sentence,
because it will meet the situation will be better and
the world will be over, so they will be back.
(13:26):
We want them back not too early because we're gonna
have some other problem. Now there is in lots of
country they cannot travel, they don't have a visa. There
is a question of security. So we've got it in mind.
We wanted to adapt to the situation year by year.
(13:50):
Usually in February we decide for the World Championship after
and every time we hope that the situation will be better. Now,
mister Trump was opposed to solve that war in twenty
four hours. It's going to take a little bit more.
(14:11):
But we were watching it with adding all the planet.
We But yes, we want them as soon as possible
because that's that's a big part of the family. But
I cannot solve the war. I'm just trying to watch
when it will be the best time to.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Bring them back. But they have to do a bit
of the job.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Look, what is your vision for ice hockey globally? What
is your ideal vision for the game?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
For me, ice hockey is a modern sport. There is
a special gear that's fast. So that means that we
got success in some country that we were a little
bit surprised, like since the cycle of two Winter Olympic Games,
(15:05):
in Asia. There is a big jump in Asia, Chinese.
I think they taste what is was hoki. I was
worried that after the game there is a little bit
less interest. No, they build more than three hundred ice
ring the sixth year before and now they use it.
(15:29):
So they organize a symposium. They want to organize competition
and uh. And when you see the potential of hoke
player a male and female in China, uh and uh
so that means there and outside of Asia, uh, the
(15:49):
country of uh Emira. They will organize in Saudi Arabia
in twenty twenty nine Winter Sport Asian Winter Sport Olympic.
There is a Thailand now is is growing. They build
the ice rink, and Philippine and now that's uh, that's
(16:16):
not crazy to think that you can play hockey even
in the Northern Africa. Africa, so hockey can be everywhere.
And I used to say that maybe I'm not objective,
but when you start to play, when you taste that,
you cannot come back to Vanilla.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I love that your job, your job must take you
all around the world. Are you ever at home? Do
you ever see your wife?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, that's a good question. Yes, But Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know, first of all, I did in the cheata
of what I sell when we get married, because I'm
just getting better.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Huh. But yes, but but that's a part of my
job first.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But uh, you know, we sometimes we try together.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So, and the big events like the World Championships, she's there.
And what I'm trying to do is I'm not a
lot at home, but when I'm at home, I want
to really be there. And so that means and so
(17:28):
my mandate will finish. I don't know at the end
of September, so let's see. But I like what I'm doing,
and I think she's happy when I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Wonderful. Last question, can you watch ice hockey as a
fan or are you too invested in the games as
it's president or are you able to still watch a
game of ice hockey and appreciate it for the sport
that it is.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, I'm watching again for the sport.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Sometimes I've got in mind you're a president, so that
means you have to be neutral. But no, I'm watching
the game doesn't matter who won, even when Frands is playing,
So that means that I watched the game for the
(18:20):
I mean, the the spectacular U how is our ice
hockey can be sometimes so exciting. No uh, as the
President sometimes said, Oh I'm gonna have something to solve
for discipline things or something like that. So that's a
(18:43):
reality to come back. But in my mind, I'm still
a hockey player. I've got a new responsibility, but I'm
still the the fans, but not on the bad side of.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Of what is a fan? Uh, hockey lover, A.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hockey lover who sounds like the ideal man to be
heading up the sport. Luke, It's been great to have
you in studio, Enjoy the rest of you stay here
in New Zealand and hope to catch up again soon.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
No, thank you, Luke. Luke Tardiff the President of the
International Ice Hockey Federation here in New Zealand for the
couple of tournaments which happening. One of those is down
in Dunedin at the moment.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
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