March 22, 2025 • 14 mins
Former Formula 1 star Mark Webber led this weekend's annual Porsche parade on Saturday.
The Porsche Club of New Zealand is holding its 50th anniversary celebration in Napier over four days concluding this weekend.
Webber joined Piney to discuss the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks. EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Porsche Parade has rolled through Napier this weekend, led by
X Formula one Star and Motor Racing Royalty Australian Mark Webber.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And now it's gonna be victory. So Mark Webber his
first in Formula one. Yeah, yeah, Mark Webber is a
(00:43):
wader at last in Formula one one dessert.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So they're popular. Victory of that, there is no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, that's what it means to win a Formula one race.
Mark Webber did it offen The Porsche Club of New
Zealand holding its fiftieth anniversary celebration in Napier over four
days ending this weekend. Mark Webber led the procession and
a rare Porsche carreerra GT. They're valued at around about
two million dollars. Just quietly Marks with us. Thanks for
(01:14):
joining us on Weekend Sport. Mark. You're a brand ambassador
for Porsche. So how much do you enjoy taking part
in events like this one?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh yeah, it's been a beautiful morning here mate, the
coffee is flowing. We've got families all milling around the cars.
You can hardly see the cars actually, and there's there's
an absolutely I don't know how many cars are it
must be it's definitely over probably two ndred cars and stunning,
stunning morning. And yeah, like I've done lots of Porsche
clubs around the world as an ambassador for the brand,
(01:43):
but I'm so happy to come to New Zealand and
see all the passion and enthusiasm for the brand down here.
It's certainly very, very genuine.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I guess most people would be a bit nervous driving
a car worth two million dollars, but that's probably no.
We're near the most valuable car you've been in, is it.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Hah, No, I'm still always nervous, mate. You know, it
doesn't matter that the value, of course, might increase the
nerves a little bit. But of course, you know, the
owners of the car, you know, they put a lot
of trust in you to you know, have a lot
of mechanical sympathy with the car, which I of course
endeavor to do and look after like it's my own.
And yeah, so I have driven some they've been lucky
(02:19):
enough to die some beautiful Porsches from the museum as
well from you know, some of the factory cars and
so and you know some of these owners, I mean,
they're not custodians for these cars, of course, they want
them to be in tremendous condition for an extended period
of time. And while they have them, they really are
completely in love with the cars and they really look
(02:40):
after and beautiful. It's the it's their piece of artwork,
which is which is really nice.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You've got a deep relationship of course with Porsche on
the World and Durance Championship twenty fifteen alongside our ken
we Brendan Hartley. Of course you had three years with
the team. What are your favorite memories of that time
in your life?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Oh, you know, that wasn't worked for me, mate. I
think that, you know, working for such a tremendous brand
like Porsche, re entering back in the sports cars after
a bit of a gap they that they had through
that period there. It's the most winning brand at Lamon,
you know. And that's the ultimate test for any any
in a man of machines. He's racing at Lamon sees
the machine you can get through such an arduous event
(03:16):
flood out racing for outright victory, and Porsche have had
such a tremendous run there. So for me to be
able to share the car with Brandon, you know for
three years. We had such a great time together where
we're in touch weekly to this day, you know, and
you know it's such a great family and I enjoy
spending time with him. And yeah, we've we've struck up
(03:37):
a great race relationship, so whether it's spending time with
him here in enz or back over in Europe where
we live very close to each other. So River Bloke
and and you know, a great a great ambassador for
New zeal motorsport has been the.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Move from Formula One into the Endurance Championship. Can you
give us a bit of insight into how you made
that decision?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, I think that you know, my time in F
one was you know, that's you know, it's much more
individual of course, you know, a lot more accountability and responsibility.
Of course, I had a long career there, which you know,
I really I was so lucky to work with great
people at Red Bull Racing and you know, the Adrian
Newies of this world. And you know, it was awesome
for me to have, I suppose the success in the
(04:20):
back part of my former one career because I didn't have,
you know, the podiums and wins and the start of
my career. I sort of had them more towards the
end of my career, so that I was looking to
sort of finish it at on my terms. Being one
action was finishing on my terms and be finishing with
really really good memories and Formula One. So and then
sort of stepping stone across to Porsious, Like if you're
going to go with any brands into sports car racing,
(04:41):
I think there's not a driver in the world that
would not love to race the Porsche. So then when
they approached me about having the opportunity to go and
re entering that championship, of course we're very different.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's you know, sharing the car with teammates in endurance racing,
racing at night. It's also multi category. You know, obviously
we're in the fastest car or you know, outright category,
but you've got to share the track with gentlemen drivers
and some amateurs if you like. So that's really really
different deaf ones. So I needed to get my head
around that. But you know, the fun with my teammates
(05:13):
and having the success that we did, you know, it
was just a nice extending my career a little bit
but less It was, like I said, it wasn't as
much work for me. It was. It was certainly a
bit more enjoyable and I wouldn't say it relaxing, but
it was. It was a nice way to extend my
career with such a tremendous brand.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You've alluded to it there in terms of your career
and if one, it took you three years to get
your first podium, but by the end you were on
the podium regularly. Forty podium finishers in your last five
seasons compared to just a couple in your first seven.
So is there a demonstration marker of just how important experiences?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yes, it was, I think I mean, I think I
self ready for results earlier than that, but I just didn't,
you know, I wasn't in a situation, you know, with
the team, and also it could have been here. Of course,
you're always the most experience you have is the day
you retire, you know, so you need to be you know,
you're trying to bring that knowledge as far forward as
you can early in your career, not to be you know,
(06:11):
at a race weekend, be fast on Monday morning, you
wake up and go if I did this, if I
did that, you know, you have to be able to action,
you know, your deploy your leadership and deploy your enthusiasm
within the team and try and get the people around you.
I mean, these Formula one teams now have over a
thousand people working for them, you know. So a race
and driver has an immense amount of responsibility and accountability
(06:33):
to you know, leading the team in certain directions. So
for me to it's just sliding doors. Mate. Maybe I
wasn't ready for it earlier in my career and I
hung in there through I suppose a critical period where
I might have been on the ropes a little bit,
but then got through that rough period and got some
bigger results at the end of my career. So yeah,
(06:53):
I was I was lucky to achieve that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm not sure that is the main part of it,
but I'll take you a word for it. I'm Lawso
our man, of course, has had a challenging start to
life in the full time Formula one seat. How do
you assess as a bullet teat to make the adjustments
and become a successful Leaf one driver?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah? Look, you know he's he's in a top team obviously,
you know Red Bull of serial winners. They they're used to,
you know, tremendous success. They have a mense amount of
depth and experience within the organization from an engineering perspective
and operationally, you know, clearly world world class. Strategically, they're great. Obviously,
Max with stapp and you know, current four time world champion,
(07:35):
so he will be of course leading the team. So
for Liam to have access to how Max operates will
be absolutely phenomenal. Theme But that's a very very good positive.
But you know, everyone's not a finishing school. You know,
I always say when you arrive and I F one,
it's not a finishing school. You've got to really try
to get up to speed as fast as possible and
(07:58):
and and put the car on a sippy toes and
be consistently on the limit for the car. So I
think that's where Liam, you know, he knows, is that
the pinnacle now Formula One. He has the chance. Read
Bull have showed the belief in him to give him
a full contract, and now he's just got to immerse
himself into understanding that's you know, his job is a
(08:19):
racing driver, and his job is to get the absolute
maximum out of himself a FAP and that's what he
needs to do, and I'm sure he's of course he's
trying to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
How bright is the f one spotlight and how deep
is the pressure that comes with that?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of course, you know, there's only twenty of them on
the grid, you know, and you know, I think that
you know the industry media and obviously it's very they're
incredibly well educated, some more so than others, of course,
but they try to you know, they're always looking for
opportunities to maybe create some extra pressure or certain scenarios
(08:58):
and they might not have all the pieces to the jigsaw,
but you know, the team's under pressure, the driver's under pressure,
you know, because everyone's got goals and standards. Everyone's going
trying to get towards the front of the grid. But
as we know, there can be only one one winner
or one perceived group or teams that are doing well.
So right now, I mean, you know, Ferrari and McLaren
(09:20):
has come out of the blocks pretty strong as Max.
I mean, Max is there, so Liam, you know, replaced
Sir Joe because they needed those extra points and start
to contribute to the Constructors Championship because that's a huge
for the teams. They need to consistent drivers. So that's
that's where you know, the pressure can mount. You know,
as long as he's contributing to the points in a
(09:42):
healthy fashion, then then he will be under no pressure.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I know, you want to get back or there'll be
a lot of people wanted to chet to you their mark.
I just want to know, though, on behalf of our audience,
a lot of them. I'm sure I have thought about,
you know, what it must be like inside and if
one car, how hard are they to drive, let alone
to win a race or races in one of them?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Well, yeah, I mean, look, you know, it's like anything
in life. You know, people get very good, you know
when you have experience, you know, which we do through
the junior categories, and what do they say at the
ten thousand hour rule when you've got when you you know,
you do so much practice and then you you know
you're at the arrowhead of operating. That is, of course,
(10:22):
the fastest car in the world. A Formula one car
is immenseally quick. The breaking capability is the corner and
capabilities just absolutely mind blowing how quick these cars are.
So the more that we have you know the training
and then if you've got this word, which is obviously,
then you get skillful. You get highly skilled at your job.
And whether you're a musician or whether you're into other
sports rugby union, you guys are big on that is.
(10:43):
So when you get that skillful at your trade, you
become at one with the vehicle and then you're down
to the points you just mentioned there is about actually
then you're about execution and consistency, about how you know,
if you can do it better than everyone else, of course,
then you have a chance to have a mental results
and start to win races. So but when you're against
(11:05):
the last you know, two or three four in the world,
it gets some pretty handy boys around. So yeah, but
it's a great it's a highly technical sport, very challenging
and one where it's it's it's incredibly popular around the
world right now, so it's in a good spot and
I hope that's you know, for the Kiwi's sake and
(11:26):
all the motorsport fans in this country, because I know
one loves it the lie and can have a good
start of the year soon and have some good the
Kiwi national anthem playing even yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Know Yeah, wouldn't that be great? It's been such an
education talking to you. Mark. Thanks for taking the time
and know the Porsche Club of New Zealand delighted to
have you here. Enjoyed the rest of your stay in
New Zealand and thanks for taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Have a good day, Cheers.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Thanks, you have a good day too, Mark. Thanks. Indeed,
Mark Webber pretty famous. It just seems very down to
earth for such a such a famous bloke. You won
how many nine Grand Prix across twelve seasons? Then it
came across them Endurance Racing won it with Brendan Hartley
and twenty fifteen with Porsche. Those numbers that I that
I put to Mark and he obviously knew them. But
(12:09):
I just hope that Liam Lawson gets the opportunity to
get used to this car because you look at Mark
Webber's Formula One career and even when he got to
Red Bull Racing, which is where he had most of
his success. He got there in two thousand and seven
and he had all his Grand Prix wins with Red Ball,
(12:30):
but it didn't happen straight away. In fact, he had
just one podium finish in his first two seasons with
red ball racing. Now they could easily have said, well,
you know, this isn't working, maybe we move on. They
obviously had a driver they had a lot of faith in.
But then you look at his next four years in
(12:52):
that car. He had eight podium finishes the following year, ten,
the one after that, ten the one after that, and
then four the one after that and eight in his
final year. So as I said to him, you know,
any at the start of his career, in the first five, six,
seven years, so it obviously just takes time to learn
(13:13):
this car, and Liam Lawson is learning in real time.
So how much is this about just actually letting him
be for a bit. The issue is the spotlight, I
think is probably I mean it was harsh back then.
The spotlight on Liam Lawson is so harsh now. Honestly,
if you want to find out how much pressure Liam
(13:34):
Lawson is under, simply go on to social media and
type his naming and you will feel the wrath of thousands,
tens of thousands of motorsport fans who don't think he
should be there. I mean, clearly, if you're Liam Lawson,
you stay off social media. But the spotlight is so
(13:56):
harsh upon him.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Porsche Parade has rolled through Napier this weekend, led by
X Formula one Star and Motor Racing Royalty Australian Mark Webber.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And now it's gonna be victory. So Mark Webber his
first in Formula one. Yeah, yeah, Mark Webber is a
(00:43):
wader at last in Formula one one dessert.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So they're popular. Victory of that, there is no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, that's what it means to win a Formula one race.
Mark Webber did it offen The Porsche Club of New
Zealand holding its fiftieth anniversary celebration in Napier over four
days ending this weekend. Mark Webber led the procession and
a rare Porsche carreerra GT. They're valued at around about
two million dollars. Just quietly Marks with us. Thanks for
(01:14):
joining us on Weekend Sport. Mark. You're a brand ambassador
for Porsche. So how much do you enjoy taking part
in events like this one?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh yeah, it's been a beautiful morning here mate, the
coffee is flowing. We've got families all milling around the cars.
You can hardly see the cars actually, and there's there's
an absolutely I don't know how many cars are it
must be it's definitely over probably two ndred cars and stunning,
stunning morning. And yeah, like I've done lots of Porsche
clubs around the world as an ambassador for the brand,
(01:43):
but I'm so happy to come to New Zealand and
see all the passion and enthusiasm for the brand down here.
It's certainly very, very genuine.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I guess most people would be a bit nervous driving
a car worth two million dollars, but that's probably no.
We're near the most valuable car you've been in, is it.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Hah, No, I'm still always nervous, mate. You know, it
doesn't matter that the value, of course, might increase the
nerves a little bit. But of course, you know, the
owners of the car, you know, they put a lot
of trust in you to you know, have a lot
of mechanical sympathy with the car, which I of course
endeavor to do and look after like it's my own.
And yeah, so I have driven some they've been lucky
(02:19):
enough to die some beautiful Porsches from the museum as
well from you know, some of the factory cars and
so and you know some of these owners, I mean,
they're not custodians for these cars, of course, they want
them to be in tremendous condition for an extended period
of time. And while they have them, they really are
completely in love with the cars and they really look
(02:40):
after and beautiful. It's the it's their piece of artwork,
which is which is really nice.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You've got a deep relationship of course with Porsche on
the World and Durance Championship twenty fifteen alongside our ken
we Brendan Hartley. Of course you had three years with
the team. What are your favorite memories of that time
in your life?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Oh, you know, that wasn't worked for me, mate. I
think that, you know, working for such a tremendous brand
like Porsche, re entering back in the sports cars after
a bit of a gap they that they had through
that period there. It's the most winning brand at Lamon,
you know. And that's the ultimate test for any any
in a man of machines. He's racing at Lamon sees
the machine you can get through such an arduous event
(03:16):
flood out racing for outright victory, and Porsche have had
such a tremendous run there. So for me to be
able to share the car with Brandon, you know for
three years. We had such a great time together where
we're in touch weekly to this day, you know, and
you know it's such a great family and I enjoy
spending time with him. And yeah, we've we've struck up
(03:37):
a great race relationship, so whether it's spending time with
him here in enz or back over in Europe where
we live very close to each other. So River Bloke
and and you know, a great a great ambassador for
New zeal motorsport has been the.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Move from Formula One into the Endurance Championship. Can you
give us a bit of insight into how you made
that decision?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, I think that you know, my time in F
one was you know, that's you know, it's much more
individual of course, you know, a lot more accountability and responsibility.
Of course, I had a long career there, which you know,
I really I was so lucky to work with great
people at Red Bull Racing and you know, the Adrian
Newies of this world. And you know, it was awesome
for me to have, I suppose the success in the
(04:20):
back part of my former one career because I didn't have,
you know, the podiums and wins and the start of
my career. I sort of had them more towards the
end of my career, so that I was looking to
sort of finish it at on my terms. Being one
action was finishing on my terms and be finishing with
really really good memories and Formula One. So and then
sort of stepping stone across to Porsious, Like if you're
going to go with any brands into sports car racing,
(04:41):
I think there's not a driver in the world that
would not love to race the Porsche. So then when
they approached me about having the opportunity to go and
re entering that championship, of course we're very different.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's you know, sharing the car with teammates in endurance racing,
racing at night. It's also multi category. You know, obviously
we're in the fastest car or you know, outright category,
but you've got to share the track with gentlemen drivers
and some amateurs if you like. So that's really really
different deaf ones. So I needed to get my head
around that. But you know, the fun with my teammates
(05:13):
and having the success that we did, you know, it
was just a nice extending my career a little bit
but less It was, like I said, it wasn't as
much work for me. It was. It was certainly a
bit more enjoyable and I wouldn't say it relaxing, but
it was. It was a nice way to extend my
career with such a tremendous brand.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You've alluded to it there in terms of your career
and if one, it took you three years to get
your first podium, but by the end you were on
the podium regularly. Forty podium finishers in your last five
seasons compared to just a couple in your first seven.
So is there a demonstration marker of just how important experiences?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yes, it was, I think I mean, I think I
self ready for results earlier than that, but I just didn't,
you know, I wasn't in a situation, you know, with
the team, and also it could have been here. Of course,
you're always the most experience you have is the day
you retire, you know, so you need to be you know,
you're trying to bring that knowledge as far forward as
you can early in your career, not to be you know,
(06:11):
at a race weekend, be fast on Monday morning, you
wake up and go if I did this, if I
did that, you know, you have to be able to action,
you know, your deploy your leadership and deploy your enthusiasm
within the team and try and get the people around you.
I mean, these Formula one teams now have over a
thousand people working for them, you know. So a race
and driver has an immense amount of responsibility and accountability
(06:33):
to you know, leading the team in certain directions. So
for me to it's just sliding doors. Mate. Maybe I
wasn't ready for it earlier in my career and I
hung in there through I suppose a critical period where
I might have been on the ropes a little bit,
but then got through that rough period and got some
bigger results at the end of my career. So yeah,
(06:53):
I was I was lucky to achieve that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm not sure that is the main part of it,
but I'll take you a word for it. I'm Lawso
our man, of course, has had a challenging start to
life in the full time Formula one seat. How do
you assess as a bullet teat to make the adjustments
and become a successful Leaf one driver?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah? Look, you know he's he's in a top team obviously,
you know Red Bull of serial winners. They they're used to,
you know, tremendous success. They have a mense amount of
depth and experience within the organization from an engineering perspective
and operationally, you know, clearly world world class. Strategically, they're great. Obviously,
Max with stapp and you know, current four time world champion,
(07:35):
so he will be of course leading the team. So
for Liam to have access to how Max operates will
be absolutely phenomenal. Theme But that's a very very good positive.
But you know, everyone's not a finishing school. You know,
I always say when you arrive and I F one,
it's not a finishing school. You've got to really try
to get up to speed as fast as possible and
(07:58):
and and put the car on a sippy toes and
be consistently on the limit for the car. So I
think that's where Liam, you know, he knows, is that
the pinnacle now Formula One. He has the chance. Read
Bull have showed the belief in him to give him
a full contract, and now he's just got to immerse
himself into understanding that's you know, his job is a
(08:19):
racing driver, and his job is to get the absolute
maximum out of himself a FAP and that's what he
needs to do, and I'm sure he's of course he's
trying to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
How bright is the f one spotlight and how deep
is the pressure that comes with that?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of course, you know, there's only twenty of them on
the grid, you know, and you know, I think that
you know the industry media and obviously it's very they're
incredibly well educated, some more so than others, of course,
but they try to you know, they're always looking for
opportunities to maybe create some extra pressure or certain scenarios
(08:58):
and they might not have all the pieces to the jigsaw,
but you know, the team's under pressure, the driver's under pressure,
you know, because everyone's got goals and standards. Everyone's going
trying to get towards the front of the grid. But
as we know, there can be only one one winner
or one perceived group or teams that are doing well.
So right now, I mean, you know, Ferrari and McLaren
(09:20):
has come out of the blocks pretty strong as Max.
I mean, Max is there, so Liam, you know, replaced
Sir Joe because they needed those extra points and start
to contribute to the Constructors Championship because that's a huge
for the teams. They need to consistent drivers. So that's
that's where you know, the pressure can mount. You know,
as long as he's contributing to the points in a
(09:42):
healthy fashion, then then he will be under no pressure.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I know, you want to get back or there'll be
a lot of people wanted to chet to you their mark.
I just want to know, though, on behalf of our audience,
a lot of them. I'm sure I have thought about,
you know, what it must be like inside and if
one car, how hard are they to drive, let alone
to win a race or races in one of them?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Well, yeah, I mean, look, you know, it's like anything
in life. You know, people get very good, you know
when you have experience, you know, which we do through
the junior categories, and what do they say at the
ten thousand hour rule when you've got when you you know,
you do so much practice and then you you know
you're at the arrowhead of operating. That is, of course,
(10:22):
the fastest car in the world. A Formula one car
is immenseally quick. The breaking capability is the corner and
capabilities just absolutely mind blowing how quick these cars are.
So the more that we have you know the training
and then if you've got this word, which is obviously,
then you get skillful. You get highly skilled at your job.
And whether you're a musician or whether you're into other
sports rugby union, you guys are big on that is.
(10:43):
So when you get that skillful at your trade, you
become at one with the vehicle and then you're down
to the points you just mentioned there is about actually
then you're about execution and consistency, about how you know,
if you can do it better than everyone else, of course,
then you have a chance to have a mental results
and start to win races. So but when you're against
(11:05):
the last you know, two or three four in the world,
it gets some pretty handy boys around. So yeah, but
it's a great it's a highly technical sport, very challenging
and one where it's it's it's incredibly popular around the
world right now, so it's in a good spot and
I hope that's you know, for the Kiwi's sake and
(11:26):
all the motorsport fans in this country, because I know
one loves it the lie and can have a good
start of the year soon and have some good the
Kiwi national anthem playing even yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Know Yeah, wouldn't that be great? It's been such an
education talking to you. Mark. Thanks for taking the time
and know the Porsche Club of New Zealand delighted to
have you here. Enjoyed the rest of your stay in
New Zealand and thanks for taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Have a good day, Cheers.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Thanks, you have a good day too, Mark. Thanks. Indeed,
Mark Webber pretty famous. It just seems very down to
earth for such a such a famous bloke. You won
how many nine Grand Prix across twelve seasons? Then it
came across them Endurance Racing won it with Brendan Hartley
and twenty fifteen with Porsche. Those numbers that I that
I put to Mark and he obviously knew them. But
(12:09):
I just hope that Liam Lawson gets the opportunity to
get used to this car because you look at Mark
Webber's Formula One career and even when he got to
Red Bull Racing, which is where he had most of
his success. He got there in two thousand and seven
and he had all his Grand Prix wins with Red Ball,
(12:30):
but it didn't happen straight away. In fact, he had
just one podium finish in his first two seasons with
red ball racing. Now they could easily have said, well,
you know, this isn't working, maybe we move on. They
obviously had a driver they had a lot of faith in.
But then you look at his next four years in
(12:52):
that car. He had eight podium finishes the following year, ten,
the one after that, ten the one after that, and
then four the one after that and eight in his
final year. So as I said to him, you know,
any at the start of his career, in the first five, six,
seven years, so it obviously just takes time to learn
(13:13):
this car, and Liam Lawson is learning in real time.
So how much is this about just actually letting him
be for a bit. The issue is the spotlight, I
think is probably I mean it was harsh back then.
The spotlight on Liam Lawson is so harsh now. Honestly,
if you want to find out how much pressure Liam
(13:34):
Lawson is under, simply go on to social media and
type his naming and you will feel the wrath of thousands,
tens of thousands of motorsport fans who don't think he
should be there. I mean, clearly, if you're Liam Lawson,
you stay off social media. But the spotlight is so
(13:56):
harsh upon him.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
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